I think that vegetable oils “polymerize” more easily. They absorb oxygen and harden like boiled linseed oil, and the pump leather will lose flexibility.

A bit late, but wanted to inform ya if you haven't already found out. I have a 508 since brand new in the 80's as a teen. The 508 is supposed to stay on high during lighting and for 30 sec-1 min. That warms the generator and gets it to settle down quite quickly. That is one bulletproof and very good stove that has survived teen boys spending multi week trips on the AT numerous times.

@EmbarkWithMark

2 жыл бұрын

I did know this, but thank you! I agree this is an awesome little stove!

@MackinNC1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, good to know

@Zerpersande

Жыл бұрын

Excellent point and very true.

@mikemorgan5015

11 ай бұрын

@@EmbarkWithMark You knew it, but you didn't do it, then acted like the stove took some time to warm up. Jacking with the control/cleaning lever is what made it take so long. Don't do that. The instant light feature depends on high velocity air going by the fuel pickup. Playing with the cleaning/control lever slows that down, which means more liquid and less air and longer starting times. Once it's burning clean, use that lever til the cows come home and simmer away, but not during startup. That's a great stove. Enjoy it.

Thanks for the upload and link to the part too; now I know how to fix that! Nice little stove too!

@EmbarkWithMark

Жыл бұрын

You bet!

I was on Facebook marketplace and for $40 I picked up a 1981 Coleman peak one stove like that but it’s brown and nothing runs great I love it

@EmbarkWithMark

Жыл бұрын

Nice fine! There’s something mesmerizing about these stoves.

Great choice, fair price. I’ve had one for over 20 years. Original parts. Plunger still works fine.

@EmbarkWithMark

Жыл бұрын

Very nice. I think these stoves are hard to beat.

Just ordered the 508, I’m really excited about it!

@EmbarkWithMark

2 жыл бұрын

I’m excited for you!

You had a great result with that coleman 👍

@EmbarkWithMark

2 жыл бұрын

It’s surprising how well these old Coleman stoves work!

Who told you to use vegetable oil? It will gunk up the check valve at the bottom of the pump tube.

@mikemorgan5015

11 ай бұрын

Agree. Only use veg based oil in emergency. Use motor oil from your dipstick before using veg oil. If you do use veg, when you get done with your adventure, remove the pump, fill the pump tube with clean fuel or carb cleaner until nearly full, loosen the filler cap and pump a couple of tubes through it, drain the tank, re-oil the leather and rest easy knowing it'll be ready for battle when you next need it.

My 442 also takes a while to settle down after lighting. I suppose that it is the price you pay for the extra power. This one has a bunch of new parts: Generator, Non-Return Valve & valve assembly. I always feed mine white-gas.

@dalfifran7572

7 ай бұрын

Is 442 have problem with simmer or low heat? That seem to be the challenge with that version?

Looks like mine. Much better than the multifuel upgrade. Had the ability to simmer

@EmbarkWithMark

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

Turn off the background music. It is beyond me why KZread content creators think playing background music over their voice is somehow enhancing their videos, it is not, it is distracting. We came to hear you, not to fight background music which quickly becomes extremely annoying and intrusive. Many folks have hearing difficulties, thus while concentrating on your voice they must also concentrate on tuning out the music; frustrating. Your background music ruins an otherwise exceptionally good presentation.

@EmbarkWithMark

9 ай бұрын

Way ahead of you! Thank you for the feedback.

@briang4914

Ай бұрын

​@@EmbarkWithMark I think the music was good tempo. Matched the video good!

@ashab1

Ай бұрын

​@@briang4914it can be distracting and obnoxious, I prefer without we should vote.

Great vid. I just found it. I am going down the Coleman stove rabbit hole now. I have 5 diffrent stove models myself. Could I suggest the Coleman 5450A700 It is a Peak one model that uses propane. It is now my goto kayak camping stove. It is a little harder to find, but puts out plunty of BTUs for all of your cooking needs.

@EmbarkWithMark

9 ай бұрын

Welcome to the club! It’s an odd and fun hobby for sure! I’ll have to check out the peak propane stove. Thank you!

Just picked one for $20, extremely happy about it! Thanks for the video

@EmbarkWithMark

Жыл бұрын

Your welcome! And great find!! I love these little stoves.

@hardwareful

Жыл бұрын

@@EmbarkWithMark those times are over, especially in Europe right now. People probably buying them to be put into the cupboard, where they will stay for the next 2-5 years.

@EmbarkWithMark

Жыл бұрын

I’m sure a lot of places are buying these stoves right now. But very valid point.

@dalfifran7572

7 ай бұрын

Damn... that's a steal. Looking at the curent listing now at ebay, it's around $60-90 for used in fair or mint condition. $20 probably only get part or in broken/beat up condition now.

@bbjagaa

7 ай бұрын

@@dalfifran7572What is more awesome is it’d never been used, just stored by a guy for many years and his son I assume selling it for cheap.

502 vs 508 anyone ? For longevity ????? I know the 502 puts out less power.....but I like the straight generator that is very easy to clean......

@EmbarkWithMark

Жыл бұрын

I think the 502 > 508 for longevity. Both are great stoves though.

@adrianotero7963

Жыл бұрын

@@EmbarkWithMark thanks for your opinion.....

got me one at a flea market this past week end..got mine for 38 and it works. and it has a case.

@EmbarkWithMark

2 жыл бұрын

Nice find!

@adrianotero7963

Жыл бұрын

The Folgers red coffee container makes a great home for the 508 and 533.

@MackinNC1

Жыл бұрын

@@adrianotero7963 Thanks!

@MackinNC1

Жыл бұрын

@@adrianotero7963 Plastic ones or the old metal cans and what size?

@adrianotero7963

Жыл бұрын

@@MackinNC1 the red plastic one....

My 508 that I got back in 1984 cost $25 and came in a nice plastic case. I'm glad you think $37 is cheap.

@STho205

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't your purchase 38 years ago cost over $70 in today's devalued money. So yeah...cheap

@EmbarkWithMark

Жыл бұрын

I had a similar thought.

@mikemorgan5015

11 ай бұрын

Some of us don't have the time to go hunting at garage sales where the real deals are. 37 bucks is a steal for a stove this good in this condition. And make no mistake, this is a great stove. They don't make em this good anymore. This is how the economy is supposed to work. Garage seller is happy, Ebayer is happy, new stove owner is happy. That's a trifecta.

he is happy He can get good products with cheap shipping costs. I envy him very much.

@EmbarkWithMark

5 ай бұрын

I am blessed to be able to have cheap shipping. I live in an area that takes 3 hours to get to any real city.

Engine oil might last longer than vegetable oil, but the leather Cup itself won't. Many oils will break down the leather. The best oil to use, and the one that was recommended by Coleman is neatsfoot oil. It will help the leather last the longest.

@EmbarkWithMark

Жыл бұрын

I was just reading this. I’ll have to pick some up. Thank you!

@mikemorgan5015

11 ай бұрын

Please list a few of these "many oils" that break down leather. This is information we need to know.

@johnwyman6126

11 ай бұрын

@@mikemorgan5015 Anything you wouldn't put on your leather jacket, purse, shoes, or couch.

@mikemorgan5015

11 ай бұрын

@@johnwyman6126 That's simply not true. I think we're done. I use neatfoot because I find it's good in cold weather. But so is synthetic 0W anything. I've used 3 in 1, Singer, many motor oils and even wd-40. The WD didn't hang around long, but it worked didn't hurt anything. Not sure Kiwi and or Lincoln wax would be too good though.

@johnwyman6126

11 ай бұрын

@@mikemorgan5015 OK, you do you. If you would put zero w whatever engine oil on your couch go right ahead.

I'd say this would be even better than Coleman's current 533 model, which has only one control lever. That makes simmering at low heat harder to sustain.

@EmbarkWithMark

2 жыл бұрын

Having owned a 533 before, I would agree with you.

@adrianotero7963

Жыл бұрын

Advantage that you have with the 533 is that you can use unleaded gasoline......508 is meant to run on white fuel.....stuck on one fuel.

@TrinomCZ

Жыл бұрын

@@adrianotero7963 I've seen people using unleaded gasoline in 508 and it works just fine too. White gas is pretty much just a lower grade gasoline.

@mikemorgan5015

11 ай бұрын

@@TrinomCZ No, it pretty much isn't. White gas is pure naphtha. Gasoline has lots of additives and the formula changes with the season and the region. Not the same at all. It will run just fine but don't leave your stoves or lanterns in storage with pump gas in the tanks.

@TrinomCZ

11 ай бұрын

@@mikemorgan5015The problem with this is just terminology as I found out digging through the technical datasheets. I live in Europe and there is no such a thing called naphta available. What's even more confusing is that White gas is a different substance here compared to US. White gas in US is the same substance as a technical grade gasoline here in Europe. It has no additives compared to let's say Natural 95 or 98 you can buy at a gas station. You can buy a White gas here, but it's pretty much just kerosene, which is almost impossible to ignite with just spark or sometimes even a match. Ask me how I know :D

Don't fix what is not broken.....works great.

Of you have not already. Blend your 508 would you show how you clen or repaired. It lf you made. A video where can I find it

@EmbarkWithMark

Жыл бұрын

I’ve not made a video on that yet. I should though! It’s about time to clean it.

Always share the date code Mark!

@EmbarkWithMark

2 жыл бұрын

OH MAN!! You caught me again! Darn it.

I’ve used Remington gun oil

@EmbarkWithMark

Жыл бұрын

I bet that works pretty well!

Nejlepší je použít vepřové sádlo.

I hate the plastic pump! Bean counters got involved

@EmbarkWithMark

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!!

Have you ever tried a Russian schmel stove? Linda like a different version of this type of stove. Cool vid. Thanks

@EmbarkWithMark

2 жыл бұрын

No, I have not. I’ve never heard of it. Now I’m going to have to research and see if I can get a hold of one. Glad you enjoyed it, thank you!

How much oil need to be in the pump? And what kind of oil? I put 6 drops of gun oil before i thought about asking on here lol. I just bought a 508 today for $40 with the case, looks like a 1990 model. Had to tighten a loose hose and put a new screw under the burner and got it running ok. Im cleaning the burner tomorrow in hopes if it cranking. The burner has some rust on it so i wiil clean it up, lube the pump with the right oil and see what happens. Mine has a rubber pump backed with a white plastic washer. Feels like black rubber not leather or plastic?? Its working now lol. But i want a leather one for sure.

@briang4914

Ай бұрын

Gun oil will work just fine! Motor oil is the one of the most common and recommended oils to use. Basically degrading oil (food oil) is the only one to avoid. But even it works in a pinch. Just sling some oil in there enough to coat the walls of the pump tube and soak the pump cup. It's hard to overdo the oil because if you do too much it will just push past the valve into the tank to be burned or seep out the top. Both are non issues.

@briang4914

Ай бұрын

Heck I've even ran my stove off used motor oil and gas mix just to see whatd happen and it didn't bother it. These stoves are really hard to mess up.

How does this model compare to the 508A?

@EmbarkWithMark

5 ай бұрын

You know, I am not exactly sure. I don't own a 508A. If my memory is correct, the 508A was discounted due to a design flaw.

I have 3 and their original box interested also have a red single mantle Lantern I will sell all

@EmbarkWithMark

2 жыл бұрын

Wow that’s pretty sweet! I’d love to get my hands on a single mantle.

@mkenglis

2 жыл бұрын

I'm interested

@robormiston2841

9 ай бұрын

I would buy one if the other 2 guys dont? Location?

what kind of fuel does it use?

@EmbarkWithMark

Жыл бұрын

White gas.

Nice find!! What’s the date code?

@EmbarkWithMark

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll have to get back to you on that one haha.

يبدو أنه جيد من أين يمكنني شراؤه ؟!

@EmbarkWithMark

6 ай бұрын

I bought mine off eBay. Have to do some digging for a good priced one.

Love the video Mark!! Absolutely HATE the background music. The same bit of the song over and over and over in a loop from HELL!.. Lose the music Dude!!

@EmbarkWithMark

10 ай бұрын

Oh I can’t agree with you enough. I’ve not done this for sometime now. Thank you for the feed back! Glad you liked the video despite the terrible tuneage.

@jegr3398

10 ай бұрын

😂😅

This dude is adding water to a metal stove it's going to rust from the inside the leather cup needs water to maintain is soft and cup form or it'll dry out

@EmbarkWithMark

Жыл бұрын

So don’t add water but add water? 😂 The pot is seasoned, It’s fine. The leather cup certainly doesn’t need water, it needs oil. Water is a sure way to kill leather. Even the original Coleman literature says to use oil. You may have just earned the dumbest comment of the week award.

LMAO cooking oil not designed to handle heat? Really? Then how do ya cook with it?

@EmbarkWithMark

Жыл бұрын

Repeated heat cycles at high temps.

The 508 sucks in my opinion! The generators are obsolete if you can find one they are over $100 on eBay The fuel mixing chamber tends to load up with fuel and drip all over the fount and catch fire! Not a good scenario

@EmbarkWithMark

Жыл бұрын

This has not been my experience. Which single burner stove is your favorite?

@dtq7388

Жыл бұрын

@@EmbarkWithMark502 was the best made by Coleman in my opinion it needed no improvement

@robludwigsen7831

Жыл бұрын

Spray some carb cleaner in the tank or pour some injector cleaner in. If the generator is really bad you can clean it by removing it and using g a torch on it.

Get rid of the music