👮‍♂️ I don't even want to look at the comments to see all the lawyers I missed (who should I add in round 2?) 🚀 Get the Law & Order tier list on Nebula for 26% OFF! legaleagle.link/curiositystream

@LegalEagle

2 жыл бұрын

And yes, I may be working on a movie lawyer tier list...

@Archangel4Truth

2 жыл бұрын

Wow this was a complete useless waste of legal topics to do a video on. Talk about extremely low hanging fruit off the poisonous tree. Whats next a debate with a gold fish over the latest Supreme court rulings...

@jnerdsblog

2 жыл бұрын

@@Archangel4Truth Man, imagine going through life not knowing what 'fun' is.

@thestig863

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely Charlie Kelly and Matt Murdock

@thestig863

2 жыл бұрын

@@Archangel4Truth Are you okay?

Saul deserves S tier. Chuck was known to be the best lawyer in the area, and Saul always got the one-up on him in court. Even in breaking bad if you watch closely nothing bad ever happens because of Saul’s advice. Bad things only happen when people ignore it. So if he could keep Walt’s mess out of court then he’s a 10/10

@WillDennis22

Жыл бұрын

Chuck was the ex-best lawyer. I feel like his mental health problems might drop him a tier. If anyone from Better Call Saul deserves S-tier it’s Kim. Everyone on the show respects her and her intelligence.

@nerdcorner2680

Жыл бұрын

@@WillDennis22 Understandable. I think Saul's willingness to go to extremes will always give him a leg up on Kim, who follows rules closer than him, but I can completely understand your opinion

@kujojotarostandoceanman2641

Жыл бұрын

as he said the only reason he isn't S is because he got bad reputation thus can never be actually hired by big corporate

@obad7633

Жыл бұрын

@@kujojotarostandoceanman2641 except that's not true he was offered a job at all 3 major lawfirms in better call sual and took 1 for a few weeks before quiting. He was even offered a Jon at HHM twice I the show.

@tallgooey3379

Жыл бұрын

AND HE GETS TO BET A TIER! WHAT A SICK JOKE!

“I’d hire this guy(Saul Goodman) you don’t want a criminal lawyer, you want a “criminal” lawyer” - Jesse Pinkman

@idalarsen2540

2 жыл бұрын

I'm very much convinced that (ex-)mobsters/gang leaders would be great attorneys, for some reason. Just a hunch, tbh.. perhaps including, but not limited to the determination, leadership skills, and their way of knowing how to manipulate/influence (or whichever other term you deem appropriate/fitting) needed to be a good attorney. Out of all the kinds of criminals, I feel like (ex-)gang leaders would serve as the best attorneys. Feel free to debate me on this lol, it's interesting food for thought, if you ask me!

@sampigg7933

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, lawyers!

@corngreaterthanwheat

2 жыл бұрын

His willingness to get disbarred for clients is what makes him actually S tier.

@cruzcflores

2 жыл бұрын

@@corngreaterthanwheat In fiction yes. In real life that just gives you Giuliani

@jedinxf7

2 жыл бұрын

that's how Michael cohen was recommended to Donald Trump

The fact that Matt Murdock wasn’t on this list is a federal crime.

@GSBarlev

Жыл бұрын

I recognize this video was released pre-She Hulk, but Jen Walters deserves placement as well.

@mohamedbenlashher4510

11 ай бұрын

@@GSBarlevyeah deserves a placement in the lowest tier

@x808drifter

10 ай бұрын

​@@mohamedbenlashher4510need to do a sub F teir for that. Like the state flag one by CGP Grey. FA, FB, ECT to FF.

@dravenloki9287

10 ай бұрын

Right and no Vinny Gambino or Flecher Reed

@jameshakola3603

10 ай бұрын

That would need to be proven in court, though

Objection. Mike and Harvey from suits were judged on their performance from the first two episodes. Those episodes set their story arc from where they evolve as characters. If you'd assess their abilities across the series, an/or nearing the end of the series, you'd find they belong on A or S tear (depending which character we judge).

@chill3282

6 ай бұрын

Mike went to prison. 😐 I’ve seen the whole show they are the worst lawyers ever lol. They constantly bluff with no evidence and are just extremely lucky they go against lawyers who are just as oblivious about the law as them. But it’s TV! It’s not supposed to be super realistic that’d be boring as hell. It’s just a fun watch

@VeganChefRon

3 ай бұрын

They do something EVERY episode that would get them disbarred!

@thomasih4627

2 ай бұрын

@@VeganChefRon saul does something EVERY episode that would get him arrested!

The fact that the A tier is filled with lawyers who do a lot of shady shit is pretty telling.

@CartesianDuelist

2 жыл бұрын

I wasn't expecting absolutely everyone in A tier to be shady as balls... But here we are 🤣

@peterporkeristhespiderham988

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, almost all TV lawyers do a lot of shady stuff. TV lawyers either do shady stuff or their characters are intentionally written to be bad at their jobs (like Ted Buckland from Scrubs).

@manu3733

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterporkeristhespiderham988 Yeah. Lawyers who are neither shit nor shady just aren't interesting to see on TV.

@Flameclaw123

2 жыл бұрын

Phoenix in F tier because he has morality lmaoo

@MommyKhaos

2 жыл бұрын

@@manu3733 idk man, McCoy isn't shady and he's hella interesting

Aww, no Charlie Kelly. Probably saving him for the Tier List about Bird Lawyers.

@kellywilliam3708

2 жыл бұрын

He was neither a lawyer nor practiced though, but his uncle was fair game

@prophetkat

2 жыл бұрын

@@kellywilliam3708 season 11 episode 7, "McPoyle vs Ponderosa"

@abir5560

2 жыл бұрын

@@kellywilliam3708 okay, well filibuster...

@haydenbsiegel

2 жыл бұрын

He wasn't ignored there just isn't a rank above S Tier to file him. If we include him then it breaks the system of ranking.

@kurtistayor9459

2 жыл бұрын

i dont think legal eagle has studied bird law, he's probably waiting to become as much as an expert as charlie

That might be true for Phoenix in the first AA game, but he has been buffed since. He even had to be nerfed after Apollo Justice, where no one can question his law knowledge and skills. Even since the beginning his passion and justice spirit are the biggest on the list. Also we should take into account the weird law world he lives in, where trials only last 3 days and your client is "guilty until proven otherwise". He literally has to catch the real authors of the crimes just so his clients are declared not guilty. Not to mention the magatama, but you could say it's Maya's power and not entirely his. Thought I have to recognize a lot of the time relies on pure intuition and luck. Taking all this into account, he should be B tier at ABSOLUTELY WORST. I guess 🤔

@randomserbianguy5677

Жыл бұрын

I think Legal Eagle's only exposure to Phoenix Wright is the anime reaction video he did on his channel. That's how it sounds like anyway...

@gingerinajacket8519

Жыл бұрын

It isn't even "Guilty until proven otherwise" it is "Guilty until you (a lawyer, not a detective) go and find the real culprit" "Guilty until you can pin this on someone else, hopefully the real culprit"

@pokemaster123ism

Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget, Phoenix could kick your ass, per Marvel vs Capcom

@Garyee__

Жыл бұрын

cry about it

@rileymichael2694

Жыл бұрын

i was about to leave a comment like this. AA is a legal satire of the *Japanese legal system* & things are VERY different over there. I know it's not that deep but it's a little bit unfair to judge him by our world's standards when in-universe, he /is/ a pretty goddamn good lawyer and gets the reputation he does before [SPOILERS REDACTED] for a reason. (we don't talk about how he was written after AA4/Apollo Justice though. eugh)

Timestamps because why not: 00:00 Pre-show 00:15 Introduction 00:42 TierZoo explains Tiers 01:41 Criteria for ranking 02:05 Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney) 02:56 Ted Buckland (Scrubs) 04:00 Bob Loblaw (Arrested Development) 04:35 Maggie Lizer (Arrested Development) 05:09 Eli Stone (Eli Stone) 05:37 Saul Goodman (Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul) 06:24 Barry Zuckerkorn (Arrested Development) 07:06 Annalise Keating (How to Get Away With Murder) 07:59 Harvey Spectre and Mike Ross (Suits) 09:12 Unfrozen Caveman (Saturday Night Live) 10:23 Bobby Donnell 10:37 Lionel Hutz (The Simpsons) 11:36 Cast of Ally Mcbeal (Ally McBeal) 12:00 Perry Mason (Perry Mason) 13:30 Ben Matlock (Ben Matlock) 14:01 Marshall Eriksen (How I Met Your Mother) 14:50 Harvey Birdman (Harvey Birdman) 15:47 Jackie Chiles (Seinfeld) 16:30 Gerri Kellman (Succession) 17:23 Jeff Winger (Community) 18:20 Denny Crane and Alan Shore (Boston Legal) 18:44 Alicia Florrick (The Good Wife) 19:07 Jack McCoy (Law and Order) 20:10 Nebula/Curiosity Stream Sponsor spot/End Only a year late :) but we just started watching this video

@nicholaspaul1254

Жыл бұрын

thank you for your service, friend.

@kelog5446

Жыл бұрын

No Atticus Finch...still gonna go ahead and watch the whole video

@olivermendonca9545

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man

@Bird_Manukilla

Жыл бұрын

Damn, no Matt Murdock? Wanted to see what his rating would be…

@JoeKawano

Жыл бұрын

Thx!

OBJECTION! Ace Attorney is based on the Japanese legal system, in which opposing council is allowed to conceal evidence. In fact this was the point of the original games

@dmoogle2006

2 жыл бұрын

That still doesn't explain why he needs to have the way trials work explained to him every new game.

@IBrowneeI

2 жыл бұрын

@@dmoogle2006 He only had it re-explained to him once, in the second game where someone hit him in the head and he wasn't 100%. Games afterwards was always a different character that was new, like Apollo Justice, or a flashback case with Mia Fey. _Although I haven't played the most recent 3DS games, I know one of them had a new girl get the tutorial stuff, but I'm not sure about the other._

@redblueandgray

2 жыл бұрын

@@IBrowneeI in the other 3DS game you explain it to the judge, who is a different character than our usual judge.

@alexandercolburn317

2 жыл бұрын

If Lionel Hutz got an A ranking because he never lost a case, Phoenix deserves a higher rank, too. Out of the dozens of cases that we’ve seen him take on, he’s only lost one of them. That was the one where *spoiler warning* the client was actually guilty of the crime, and kidnapped a close friend to force Phoenix into representing him, so I think he deserves a pass on that one.

@Max465

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexandercolburn317 He's actually lost two cases. You had to defeat him as Apollo in Spirit of Justice during a civil case. But still his record is very good.

The fact that Matt Murdock wasn't on this list is criminal.

@AustynSN

2 жыл бұрын

I also wanted to see his rankings for Foggy Nelson and Jeri Hogarth.

@endersdragon34

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair we rarely get to see Matt in court because of his side job... But we needed more Foggy for sure

@mrallelectriccarlunacy

2 жыл бұрын

Came here to mention Jeri Hogarth. Glad to see folks are remembering netflix marvel.

@doctaflo

2 жыл бұрын

heh. “criminal”

@JoshuaGoudreau

2 жыл бұрын

I came here to say exactly this, we need to know where Nelson and Murdock fall on the list though based on the trial of Frank Castle reaction, probably pretty high... I'm going to say A tier

Saul was able to reduce a 100+ year sentence to 7 years and in a good prison too. He did all that just to show that he is indeed still good at his job to Kim.

I was hoping to see the chicken lawyer from Futurama. I know how badly he'd be ranked, I just wanted to hear you discuss the merits of a space chicken as a lawyer.

@turkishjanitor3666

11 ай бұрын

Why badly? Despite his un-lawyeresque behavior he was pretty competent, so he's gonna get a B-tier or maybe C-tier

@CantankerousDave

10 ай бұрын

@@turkishjanitor3666Except for that time he was in jail awaiting a hearing for that thar in-comp-o-tence.

@JABoyle3875

Ай бұрын

@@turkishjanitor3666he might be downranked because of confusing witnesses for corn, and being easily startled by the possibility of badgers being about.

Tier Zoo legit just showed up to say “yeah, I can’t help you with this, buddy”. Then dipped.

@Markle2k

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if it has something to do with the contract with Nebula and/or Curiosity Stream. A certain number of crossovers per time or something.

@thegaminggecko1212

2 жыл бұрын

@@Markle2k yeah, I was thinking that it had to be marketing related somehow.

@DuskoftheTwilight

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegaminggecko1212 I think it was just a cute little cameo from a friend. Legal Eagle was making a tier list so it made sense as an excuse to plug his friend who does tier list related content.

@culwin

2 жыл бұрын

@@Markle2k I bet they actually hate each other and probably had a fist fight.

@worshiperofthelegendarypig9429

2 жыл бұрын

@@culwin I don't know if that's fair, as a lawyer legal eagle has the advantage of having no soul. Even if his lack of soul skill is relatively low. Tier zoo of course has strengths such as his tier making skills, he'd know to aim for weak points because of his biology skill. However I feel lacking a soul is a much better ability since it gives bonus defense against emotional damage

Unfrozen Caveman lawyer is also a direct ancestor of Lionel Hutz.

@alexsdemkin

2 жыл бұрын

Really?

@sarasamaletdin4574

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone would be his decendant by math since he lived so long ago if he had kids before being frozen.

@Vort_tm

2 жыл бұрын

@@sarasamaletdin4574 Not technically true. Lineages either proliferate or go extinct. Simply having kids doesn't guarantee proliferation... Also, please don't hate me. I hate myself enough for being "that guy".

@bubba200874426

2 жыл бұрын

@@sarasamaletdin4574 A frozen caveman might not even be the same species as modern humans.

@lokithecat7225

2 жыл бұрын

Lionel Hutz should be a direct ancestor of Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer, not the reverse, because Time. **Nope, Brain fart**

Before this video I had never seen a tier list with E as a tier. And he didn’t even use it 😂

@camd_editz1195

Жыл бұрын

E tier is never used(unspoken rule)

@ArmoredLion217

7 ай бұрын

Why display it as if it would be used if it is never supposed to be used.? It's illogical and incredibly distracting.

Objection! Jeff claims that he has never lost a case when he was practicing law. He also has strong examples like when he convinced an arson victim he preferred his house burnt.

"why should you go to jail for a crime somebody else noticed?" A question right up there with and equally as valid as "Are we alone?" and "where do we go after we die?

@AirQuotes

2 жыл бұрын

Good question if no one notices is it really a crime?

@therhythmdragon

2 жыл бұрын

WorldEnd: What do you do at the end of the world? Are you busy? Why should you go to jail for a crime someone else noticed? Ah, my favourite anime.

@cruzcflores

2 жыл бұрын

@@AirQuotes Like punching someone in the dark!

@jappperon7012

2 жыл бұрын

@@cruzcflores whats going on he,,,*crumples to the ground*

@LuisXGP

2 жыл бұрын

@@AirQuotes It is. In the criminal mind, unless he doesn't think it is and none else notice "it is", ever.

Jeff Winger convinced 12 people that when Professor Duncan did a U-Turn on the freeway and tried to order chalupas from the emergency call box that his only real crime was loving America

@KennyMadison

2 жыл бұрын

"I...I love chalupas."

@alphanerd7221

2 жыл бұрын

@Bersker Jeff is an easy A. All of his clients got off and his lawfirm loved him.

@stephaniemandelsberg9868

2 жыл бұрын

Right? Jeff never lost a case that we're aware of so he should definitely be higher.

@Coolsomeone234

2 жыл бұрын

He never lost a case too

@ughgaming5615

2 жыл бұрын

“he convinced a victim of arson that he liked his house better burnt!”

I’ve been watching your channel for a while now and Tier Zoo for even longer. Watching you two colab was fantastic. All your stuff is gold DJ, but this is my favorite episode so far!

One of Australia's Funniest ever cult movies is "The Castle" (1997). It's about a fictional Australian government's compulsory acquisition of a family man's home. The defendant's lawyer is Dennis Denuto (played by Tiriel Mora). I would be interested to see in the comments, how people who have seen the movie think he ranks as a theatrical Aussie lawyer.

@Killifar

Жыл бұрын

Tell him he's dreamin. classic

@zacyquack

Жыл бұрын

Well I think you would have to be asking Australian lawyers, since American and Australia laws are very different.

@mikmop

Жыл бұрын

@@zacyquack You should watch the movie, it's quite funny. I wasn't talking about how realistic he is, (as per your consideration), but how does he come across as a comedic personality who just happens to be a fictional movie lawyer. And in any case, I was probably targeting this comment towards lawyers in Australia, though you don't have to be an Aussie to enjoy the movie.

@zacyquack

Жыл бұрын

@@mikmop I already have watched it multiple times and I am an Aussie. And targeting to lawyers in Australia is not going to work well on a KZread channel for American laws

@mikmop

Жыл бұрын

@@zacyquack Yeah OK, maybe I could have phrased it better, but I'm just saying... a lot of Americans have also seen the movie and enjoyed it, and so it's not about legal realism or the laws of the land, it's about.... it's the vibe, it's the constitution, it's justice, it's law, it's... it's the vibe and... ah... no.. that's it. It's the vibe and I rest my case.

"this man has never won a case, including one where the law broken wasn't even a thing. B tier." WTF bro

@thorsteinj

2 жыл бұрын

"B?! I feel crushed, crucified, crestfallen. Obfuscated and obliterated!"

@surferdude4487

2 жыл бұрын

I think you're being too generous. F for the lawyer who's clients went to jail for a year for breaking a law that doesn't exist. A working knowledge of the criminal code is a prerequisite to pass any kind of bar exam.

@totalvoid6234

2 жыл бұрын

"This man has only once lost a case and it was when his client pleaded guilty. His special abilities include mind control and the ability to speak with the dead. F tier."

@SafetySpooon

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, if he can say that Matlock & Perry Mason are the same, but Matlock gets a higher rating? NOPE.

@visualoo1918

2 жыл бұрын

I think Jackies got a special place in DJs heart; as does he in mine haha. It bumped is rating.

*LegalEagle:* Phoenix Wright is F Tier. *Marvel Vs Capcom 3 Players:* You have never known the terror that is Turnabout Mode...

@InitialXG

2 жыл бұрын

He’s S Tier in the hands of the one and only I HEART JUSTICE

@paulakroy2635

2 жыл бұрын

He’s considered low tier in umvc3

@podemosurss8316

2 жыл бұрын

But that is game!Phoenix, and LegalEagle is talking about anime!Phoenix.

@Nixahma

2 жыл бұрын

@@podemosurss8316 Shame. At least Game!Phoenix has somewhat of a reasoning.

@CyanoTex

2 жыл бұрын

Someone should tell him about game!Phoenix, then, because I think that'd probably make him reconsider Phoenix Wright as a whole.

He should have just ranked all the lawyers in all the Law & Order shows in a separate video.

@pmbramucci1056

7 ай бұрын

This.

@filthybonnet

Ай бұрын

He did but it's on his curiosity stream paid content. And I've never been more tempted to pay even just for a month just to watch that. Wanna make sure Claire gets at least A tier.

I think the fact that Saul Goodman is unscrupulous makes him S tier. He'll do anything and everything to get his clients off...that's a lawyer anyone would want!

Objection! Phoenix Wright works in a satirized future version of the Japanese legal system, where defendants get basically no time to prepare for trial. He has won virtually all his trials, a large number of them having maybe a single night to prepare. Given that he's severely disadvantaged in a grossly broken system and still comes out on top, I think he has earned a bit higher than an F.

@hakairyu1

2 жыл бұрын

+

@a_person5668

2 жыл бұрын

Def B or a tier

@hakairyu1

2 жыл бұрын

Also, US evidence law doesn’t apply except for one case (that was written years later by a different team as a bonus case) where it does before it continues not to again.

@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan

2 жыл бұрын

Japan has a conviction rate over 99%

@edgeworth097

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

"I have appeared in most courts in this state, sometimes even as a lawyer." Oh, and "Denny Crane!"

@michaelcook7107

2 жыл бұрын

Lionel Hutz : Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog. Marge : You did? Lionel Hutz : Well, replace the word "kinda" with the word "repeatedly," and the word "dog" with "son."

Oh my god! I've love this channel, and I've also loved Tierzoo for a long time. So seeing this collab video is gold!

I just love that you have your pop culture knowledge updated. 😃

Objection. Lionel Hutz represents Marge in “Marge in Chains” where she’s given prison time after being convicted for shoplifting. He tries to submit a fake verdict which is: 1. Written on a cocktail napkin 2. Still says guilty 3. Guilty is spelled wrong.

@ryanjanis9184

2 жыл бұрын

I move for a bad-Court thingy! You mean a mistrial? That's why you're the Judge and I'm the law...talking guy. You mean lawyer?

@ryhanon7

2 жыл бұрын

Well yeah but free pizza.

@ludmillasummers775

2 жыл бұрын

The judge is awful in that case. I work as a paralegal in a prosecutor's office. Shoplifting ain't a prison case unless it's for jewelry, but then it moves into larceny

@rightwingsafetysquad9872

2 жыл бұрын

Larceny is just an arcane word for stealing a physical object (as opposed to embezzlement or fraud). Many states such as South Carolina have removed larceny from their legal lexicon because it is almost entirely redundant with "theft". Many more states such as Ohio have had pushes to do the same that ultimately went no where because it would have required too extensive of a rewrite of the state legal code.

@graymalkinHaim

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

Objection: Where is Matt Murdoch (Daredevil), and that dude from bull.

@elanjohnson309

2 жыл бұрын

You litterally read my mind

@k1llwizzy

2 жыл бұрын

i was waiting for Bull to pop up also. after 3 seasons one would expect a video about them.

@LuisXGP

2 жыл бұрын

Daredevil is a movie and this is tv series list.

@TheRavenCoder

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuisXGP Daredevil had a Netflix TV series, that was, frankly, much better than the movie.

@insaniumgirl5229

2 жыл бұрын

Speaking of Netflix Original comic book inspired lawyers, where's Charlotte Richards (Lucifer)?

Wow! This tier list was a mouthful!

I love this. Excellent stuff.

Saul is still S tier in my heart

@seliamila1005

2 жыл бұрын

he's definitely an S++ ( he survived Tuco )

@NoName-ym1ls

2 жыл бұрын

Kim too

@davebrunson125

2 жыл бұрын

Though it's a show I think it shows a truer aspect to lawyers and behind the scenes deals

Ted may be a D tier lawyer, but he's an S tier character.

@joermnyc

2 жыл бұрын

RIP Sam Lloyd

@visualoo1918

2 жыл бұрын

So happy he mentioned Sam Llyod/ Ted. It made my evening.

@josephschultz3301

2 жыл бұрын

He finally worked up the nerve to jump off the roof... only to be saved by that dumpster.

@sonablom

2 жыл бұрын

He’s s tier in my heart.

@henrikanchelia64

2 жыл бұрын

Totally, besto character ever.

Wow. Nice link up!!!!!! I love the content you choose to cross with.

@LegalEagle I just wanted to say that I have been watching your LegalEagle channel for couple years. And I really enjoy what you're doing here. For people who are interested to learn more about law as hobby but never went into the life path into law, this content is really great. I sometimes lean too much on fictional entertainment to learn how things work in the real world but it's true that one cannot lean on fiction for this. You fill this niche gap. you tell us like it is , without having to hire and pay a lawyer huge money for their time. You make this knowledge available to the masses and empower them to know some of their rights and laws. And you are building a public persona that appears to be ethical and have alot of law knowledge . The suits you wear are also a delight to see with varying color schemes. Kudos to your wardrobe designer or you whoever does it. Thanks so much for your content. For your awareness of who is writing this, I'm a software product owner/business analyst and former software engineer. And I always wondered how I would do as a lawyer being extroverted, passionate, and smart enough to learn and apply problem solving skills to lawyer in a case. Anyway thank you so much for your insights on every KZread video. LegalEagle, please reply that you read this.

Lionel Hutz: Weakness: Repeatedly ran over a judge's son, and likes to downplay it.

Objection: Phoenix Wright is markedly different in the anime, and their interpretations of some of the cases is a bit...spotty. Beyond that, the legal system he's working in has several quirks that aren't really his fault: The world he lives in prioritizes speed and efficiency over accuracy, and thus several things are outright at his disadvantage. Each trial takes place over a maximum of three days, including all investigation of the case. As a defense attorney in the AA universe, you are not entitled to the findings during a police investigation until it's presented during trial; in fact, you are entitled to no evidence unless it's presented this way or found elsewhere, such as being provided by the client or finding it yourself. Thus, this means that almost all evidence in the AA universe is surprise evidence, as the rules preventing such things have been stripped away to support the need for speed and efficiency. Who has time for things like discovery? Is this system completely insane and unrealistic? Absolutely, it's bonkers crazy and is obviously designed to support Ace Attorney's particular style of narrative and gameplay. But, it's the system Phoenix Wright _has_ to deal with to be a defense attorney in the context of his universe. So how well is he able to deal with this system that is so obviously geared to ensure a guilty verdict? He is, without a doubt, one of the best defense attorneys (if not the best) operating within the system. He toppled a prosecutor who abused the system's quirks to maintain a *_40 year_* undefeated streak. And despite how it's set up, he has lost a grand total of 2 cases in his career (that we know of). He got disbarred for a little while after getting framed for falsifying evidence, but eventually his innocence was proven and he came roaring back. He has regularly pushed his way through this system's quirks by his own ability and understanding, and his dedication to his clients. He goes digging around crime scenes himself to figure out what happened, because he _has to_ in the system he works in. Not to mention that on top of this, he has the literal mystical ability to see through someone's lies and force secrets out of them that would have otherwise remained hidden. Whether or not this is allowable in a court of law is debatable, but he has it. So it's not like he doesn't have an understanding of how evidence works; the system he's in deliberately hides it from him and he has to wander through his cases in the dark. With all of this in mind, if you put him in the actual American legal system instead of the crazy one he has to deal with, and he had adjusted and learned to apply what he knows how to do to this system, I have _no doubt_ that he would be even more successful and regarded as an insanely good defense attorney. I know it's a matter of looking at this from the perspective of the American legal system, but it still seems to me that his situation does give him some leeway.

@mynameismari387

2 жыл бұрын

Can I second an objection? I don't actually think that'll fly in court, but luckily this is KZread

@VersaillesDeVil

2 жыл бұрын

Objection overuled. I might agree that Phoenix Wright is much much better in the games BUT this video is about lawyers in television which means he is only talking about Phoenix Wright in the Anime. He unfortunately does not have the obligation to evaluate his character development in the games.

@mekosoro4130

2 жыл бұрын

Also, Japan has a conviction rate of 99,4 - 99,7% meaning him loosing every trial regardless of who he represents is actually pretty on point. The whole game series is a satire of the japanese legal system.

@Godoflegos

2 жыл бұрын

@@VersaillesDeVil Which is a shame, since one particular thing excluded from the anime is his ability to LITERALLY SEE WHEN SOMEBODY IS HIDING SOMETHING. Can you imagine a real lawyer being able to see psyche locks?

@webbowser8834

2 жыл бұрын

Seeing Pheonix Wright that far below Perry Mason when Wright is literally Anime Perry Mason made me a bit sad.

Nice list. Notable omissions, Douglas Wambaugh from Picket Fences. The first 2-3 seasons had some court-centric episodes that are fascinating. If you're able to at some point, I'd recommend finding the interesting court episodes because they get pretty deep in places.

IMO Jeff Winger is deserving of S-Tier, he can convince anyone of literally anything. The proof is in the scene where he convinces the group that having Chang in the group is better than Rich. And his entire argument is that because they KNOW how terrible of a person Chang is, he must be better than Rich, who's more perfect than humanely possible and therefore hiding something. His closing statement puts it perfectly: "I only know one thing, nobody is this good a person (Rich), and no one can get worse than this (Chang)."

@rohithnarayan

Жыл бұрын

And once he convinced an arson victim they liked it getting burned

@Theunwantedopinionman__

Жыл бұрын

And in the dark timeline that Annie should be let out of Greendale insane asylum just by the fact that it's a crime to lock up something so beautiful

@dranzergigs66

Жыл бұрын

It's also claimed multiple times throughout the show that Jeff has never lost a case. He should at least be in A tier

@jordansweet8054

10 ай бұрын

The fact that he faked his law degree and his law firm failed in Season 5 would probably be held against him. Maybe B-tier.

@jonathonleithead4759

10 ай бұрын

@@jordansweet8054 probably a lot of good lawyers have had failed firms. The fact he was able to dupe people into believing he was a lawyer (by being good at being lawyer) is a massive boon.

"Oh! Ranking fictional lawyers! This should be fun!" "Phoenix Wright is F-Tier-" *silently turns off computer and walks into the ocean...*

@DosagePosage

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. He could've put him up higher in E. D at most tbh

Fun fact: in German, “Tierzoo” literally means “animal zoo,” which is redundant but somehow still sounds like an actual German word.

@gustavowadaslopes2479

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta prepare things for the german robot overlords.

@nonchip

2 жыл бұрын

yeah nobody would say that tho :P Zoo? sure. Tierpark? also. but Tierzoo isn't a thing. Bauminterkontinentalrakete also translates to "tree ICBM", and it's arguable whether that makes it a word :P

@alphateilchen_

2 жыл бұрын

@@nonchip I know it’s not a word. But it reminds me of actual German words like Glasvitrine, Vogelvoliere, Speisekartoffel, Außenfassade, Haarfriseur, Pulsschlag, Zukunftsprognose… shall I go on?

@reallivebluescat

2 жыл бұрын

someone comments that on every reaction to tierzoo ever

@leadpaintchips9461

2 жыл бұрын

Well tbf, there were people zoos in the past. Where Europeans brought back 'natives' for people to gaze at in fear and wonderment.

OBJECTION: Perry Mason did indeed represent guilty clients (unknown when he took the case). The first time was in "The Case of the Terrified Typist" in the shows first season. Also, what about Franklin & Bash or The Grinder?

@ksheehank

Жыл бұрын

In the first Perry Mason book not only is his client guilty, but she also framed him for murder. The Perry Mason moment is getting her to confess, and then he goes and gets her out of it anyway.

Because I love your Channel I decided this was Important to see your take

Objection! Why is Kim Weller of “Better Call Saul” not ranked? She’s top-tier! For that matter, how about Howard “Hamlindigo Blue” or tight-ass, fuss-budget Chuck McGill from the same show? These omissions are unconscionable. Get out of my courtroom.

@aadarshparashar8031

2 жыл бұрын

Kim Wexler

Matt Murdock? Special Ability: Dare-Devil. Midling fight ability due to _being_ Dare-Devil.

@charlesbailey5678

2 жыл бұрын

Objection: Daredevil doesn't have a hyphen. Move to strike.

@jamesmason7979

2 жыл бұрын

It's strange that Matt Murdock was left out. He's covered Daredevil before.

@Vesperitis

2 жыл бұрын

Then She-Hulk is going to have to be S-Tier.

@daraghokane4236

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vesperitis she got a rapist out of jail and then beat him to a plub afterwards when he confessed to her. Thanos brother has a aura around him that makes people like him and makes people agree with him. He said I can't turn it off to she hulk

@danmenard6917

2 жыл бұрын

Or at the very least put Foggy Nelson on the list. He's consistently shown to be excellent at his job as a lawyer, even when standing in Matt's shadow.

I'd legitimately like a lawyer game where you build your case before the trial

I was really hoping to see rankings for Honey Chandler (Mimi Rogers), Harry Bosch's lawyer, and Dan Fielding (John Larroquette) of Night Court

@jessicadent5507

3 ай бұрын

Gotta love Dan

Wild to me that he didn’t mention Phoenix Wright’s special ability of seeing someone’s lies. Wright is virtually undefeated, and has the most passion of any lawyer on this list. The only thing keeping Wright down is his lack law knowledge. But he more than makes up for it with his team tactics, logical reasoning, and adaptability. A Tier minimum

@SmashingCapital

2 жыл бұрын

Nah

@jdalvo9391

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah he undersold Phoenix here

@parodysam

2 жыл бұрын

He won against a dictator who kept rewriting the law on the spot

@channingdeadnight

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have Eric Dubay. You can't have a legitimate facts and science chanel without Eric Dubay. It's just reality.

@lucatriunfo8023

Жыл бұрын

You Need to Crazy to believe he has any tactics, critical thinking and adaptability. He completely deserved the F tier spot

“This guy has no law experience at all.” “I’ll put them in B tier.”

@Delightfully_Bitchy

2 жыл бұрын

I still am genuinely baffled by that.

@RickJaeger

2 жыл бұрын

I think that being inexperienced isn't held against them as much as being bad. Reason being, all lawyers start at some level of inexperience.

@friedwater6519

2 жыл бұрын

its probably just a massive meme like this entire list

@roboticminer8843

2 жыл бұрын

@@RickJaeger fair point.

@mikek9297

2 жыл бұрын

Why ? The best lawyer on the list is literally an unfrozen caveman !

The collab I never knew I needed

Fun video! If this ever gets an update, I'd love to see Mickey Haller from the Lincoln Lawyer TV series ranked

Hope on the extended version he got the lawyers from “Night Court”

@adrianaheiler9794

2 жыл бұрын

I came here to see if he had Dan Fielding on the list. John Larroquette has played so many lawyers in his life at least one of them should be mentioned!

@docmorrell

2 жыл бұрын

I loved this show growing up.

@mikejackson4643

2 жыл бұрын

@@adrianaheiler9794 And he got a Cricket bat from the Queen of England (Reference to The West Wing)

@adrianaheiler9794

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikejackson4643 and he was so looking forward to his vacation. Drinks with tiny umbrellas! 😁😉

@Captain11890

2 жыл бұрын

@@adrianaheiler9794 Shishkabob!

Objection: Phoenix Wright's fighting ability should be much higher, as shown in Marvel vs Capcom 3.

@snuffysam

2 жыл бұрын

Though, my memory may be off, but doesn’t he get disbarred for falsifying evidence in the Apollo Justice games? If so that totally outweighs any gains in the fighting ability stat lmao

@dokkisse9075

2 жыл бұрын

@@snuffysam Haven't played the apollo justice games, can't confirm

@snuffysam

2 жыл бұрын

@@dokkisse9075 ok I just checked the wiki, he did present false evidence but he apparently didn’t know it was false (not particularly helpful to his score as a lawyer either way) and because of that he was “stripped of his attorney’s badge” which is ace attorney’s way of saying he was either suspended or disbarred.

@dokkisse9075

2 жыл бұрын

@@snuffysam so basically he aint allowed to be a lawyer

@podemosurss8316

2 жыл бұрын

He's talking about anime!Phoenix.

i love these colabs

You clearly had fun making this video... Good for you! :)

Objection: Hutz abandons Homer during the trial with the devil, as well as loses during Marge in chains.

@DProductions0

2 жыл бұрын

Ahh yes and she gets prison for petty theft

@reincarnatedwolfgod

2 жыл бұрын

did they get a free pizza?

@nightwingjosh8491

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't he also represent the Simpsons when burns ran over bart? Cause they lost that case

@FrankieWithAY

2 жыл бұрын

Also he lost in the episode “Burn’s Heir”

@FrankieWithAY

2 жыл бұрын

Im fact all most of his lost cases were against burns

“He never lost a trial” *OBJECTION!* Lionel lost the case against Freddy Quimby

@malarie-susangold9259

2 жыл бұрын

And he lost when representing the Simpsons against Me. Burns after Bart was hit by Burns car.

@CaptainFirefred

2 жыл бұрын

You're correct, BUT Liones Hutz is the most affordable option of them all.

@DanielLCarrier

2 жыл бұрын

@@malarie-susangold9259 It's worth noting that he only lost due to Marge Simpson basically throwing the case. Also, after that he advised them to take the settlement of $0. Unless he was paid a lump sum, that would be less money for him, and it shows integrity that he advised they take it anyway.

@Halinn

2 жыл бұрын

@@danpattyboucher523 He took the case, and Homer won it. That counts as a victory. Marge isn't even a lawyer!

@MikeMJPMUNCH

2 жыл бұрын

@@danpattyboucher523 Yeah I think all of wins execpt for the "All You Can Resturant" were won by one of the Simpsons i.e. bart and lisa got Sideshow Bob to confess on the stand, Bart found the animation cell which proofed Chester created Itchy and Scratchy.

My wife and I were actually cheering through this. Loved it.

I love that he sticks with the video game 🎮 thing throughout, not just as a cute way of introducing the tier list. 😂😂😂

LegalEagle finding ways to collab with people I would never think he would collab with.

@LuinTathren

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing! I love it!

@EzioHanitore

2 жыл бұрын

I love when he just randomly shows up in someone's video essay lmao

@yshoodIkare

2 жыл бұрын

Still waiting on a collab with lock picking lawyer

@richardtickler8555

2 жыл бұрын

linus tech tips next

@TAP7a

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardtickler8555 would watch

LegalEagal is Ryan Reynolds best character, yet. Glad he's branching out.

@shradha8842

2 жыл бұрын

Was low key searching for this comment 😂😂😂😂

This is so much fun!

So glad I can finally hear him talk more about Marshall.

I had my lawyer on retainer just in case Jack McCoy didn’t make S Tier. Great video!

@Crowelephant

2 жыл бұрын

Jack's the best

@emperornortoni2871

2 жыл бұрын

@@Crowelephant Peacock puts a bunch of L&O clips on KZread, and since SVU has gone on much longer than the Coke Classic, you'd be shocked by how many people would disagree with you. However, you are correct.

@Crowelephant

2 жыл бұрын

@@emperornortoni2871 I mean, I wasn't even saying it in a ranking kind of way, just that I like the character. Like how people say "Cheetos are the best" or "Everything is the worst."

@Nepomniachtchi_Austin

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Shame he makes DA in the show, nothing beat seeing him in a court room.

@CocoCece08

2 жыл бұрын

McCoy was better than Stephanie March. Always.

*Immediately puts Phoenix at F tier* So you have chosen violence

@sergeantguy4404

2 жыл бұрын

Remember he's talking about Phoenix right from the anime not game series

@xbon1

2 жыл бұрын

@@sergeantguy4404 anime phoe wri still never lost a case even if it’s sheer luck by the way he succeeds

@Vicioussama

2 жыл бұрын

Phoenix Wright was always overrated

@user-oz8kz1we5y

2 жыл бұрын

@@sergeantguy4404 It's the same thing. Phoenix is a terrible lawyer.

@Henrque123

2 жыл бұрын

I see you wisely avoided wording this in a criminal way. Nice

I don't know if I saw every episode of Perry Mason but, I did see a lot. There was one episode where his client was guilty and he did get a confession from her while she was on the stand. His special skill is actually getting the guilty person into the courtroom so they can confess.

I would've given Jeff Winger an A. How often does your lawyer have a degree from a community College? Or win a trial against Subway? Or teach law at said community College?

I’m not even a lawyer and I could tell Annalise wasn’t actually good at her job. How? The script kept telling me how amazing/ perfect/ badass she was at her job. That, and she had first years handle her cases, then scolded them when they messed up, which is to be expected since they’re FIRST YEARS.

@IceMetalPunk

2 жыл бұрын

I watched like.... 4 episodes of that show? Maybe 5. And then I missed a week, and never felt the desire to catch up with it, so I let it drop. It... wasn't a good show.

@InfernosReaper

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's clearly *E tier* at best.

@alishagarraway8522

Жыл бұрын

As a law student, that show was hard to watch because of the inaccuracies and she was a terrible lawyer.

Love how the logic of the universe is taken into account- with Lionel Hutz ranked alongside Saul Goodman

If you do a part 2, I would love to see where you put Diane Lockhart from The Good Wife / The Good Fight on this list

Can’t believe he missed kyle’s dad from South Park lol

@dracopalidine

2 жыл бұрын

Or south parks version of Johnnie Cochran

@ryanholland1946

2 жыл бұрын

It does not make sense.

If Saul Goodman just falls short of S tier, then Kim Wexler should definitely get it!

@piotrwarda3802

2 жыл бұрын

She's everything Jimmy thinks he wants to be.

@Fe22234

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah if I needed a TV lawyer to defend me she would easily be my number 1 choice.

@piotrwarda3802

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fe22234 idk Man depends on how deep of a shit hole I'm in, if I'm in too deep I better call saul.

@Benjumanjo

2 жыл бұрын

First of all; how dare you?

@BrandonVout

2 жыл бұрын

I think she'd lose a point for neglecting her bank clients in favor of pro bono cases despite promising them they'd be her sole priority. Or the time she collaborated with the opposition to sabotage her clients' business expansion.

Objection, your honor! Saul Goodman needs to be entered as S-tier lawyer! You forgot to mention, that he has absolutely the best TV-commercials that money can't buy! And yes, your honor, I have called Saul already.

I love your opinion of law & order lawyers

Marshall's special ability is to yell "lawyered" 😂

@DannyDopamineTV

2 жыл бұрын

And he aced the slaptitude test

You spend the whole commentary talking about how Harvey and Mike are actually awful, then put them in B tier. My brain is confused by this contradiction.

@zaxx29

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure he actually does think they're good lawyers. Iirc in his suits video, he praises them quite a bit.

@unknown3158

2 жыл бұрын

He said Harvey is not a good Trial Lawyer, which is kinda the point of Harvey. He settles, because there is so much you can control in a trial, with the judge and jury and witnesses. Settling makes sure you don’t lose, in a trial you can lose big time. Ans for Mike, Mike was like that (if you watched the show, you’d know why), but later he knew everything, because, yeah, photographic memory and he was also really smart.

@crazypomp927

2 жыл бұрын

@@unknown3158 I watched the show. I'm familiar with the characters. My point was a B tier ranking is inconsistent with the fact that he said nothing positive about them at all.

@unknown3158

2 жыл бұрын

@@crazypomp927 Yeah, you are right. I forgot to mention that it was probably because of that why they got B, but LegalEagle forgot to mention it too.

@hicknopunk

2 жыл бұрын

You guys must have watched newer Harvy Birdman episodes than I have.

Should have done Louis Litt too. And after going after Mikes inexperience, you didn't actually think to mention that he didn't graduate from any law school and had his name added to the bar after working as an associate at Pearson Hardman (Pearson/Pearson Darby/Pearson Darby Specter/Pearson Specter/Pearson Specter Litt) just in case somebody came after him after people already came after him and didn't check if he was educated or qualified in any way. And that law firm has changed name so much that is brings up the question about if you continue to replace things, until what point is the same law firm?

@LegalEagle I just found your channel and maybe you've already talked about this.I was wondering if you've ever discussed the episode of Law and Order where a sex offender served his prison sentence and they they then had him committed to a mental institution because he was likely to reoffend. The prosecutor wanted to refuse to try it on the basis of double jeopardy but the district attorney was adamant that it go forward. I currently live in Oregon where that is legal and done with high risk offenders. I worked, briefly, in a forensic psych hospital with those types of offenders. I've often wondered about the double jeopardy issue of that, despite knowing how incredibly dangerous it would be to have these people back out on the street. I didn't ever really consider it until I saw that particular episode of Law and Order and was wondering if you could either talk about that episode, or talk about the law itself regarding that type of post incarceration in a forensic psych hospital. I don't know if you'll even see this comment, but maybe someone else will and could point me to a video where you discuss this.

I still want you to react to a full episode of Boston Legal. Honestly, it's one of the most amazing and weirdly underrated shows I've ever seen. Denny Crane and Alan Shore are two of the best characters in television.

@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan

2 жыл бұрын

Shatner got a few well deserved Emmies for the part

@EmotionTheory

2 жыл бұрын

Preach!

@meredithcarroll6209

2 жыл бұрын

Denny Crane and Alan Shore are one of the best bromances in television history.

@jonathanwilliams1974

2 жыл бұрын

Sleepover? Legendary duo.

No Nelson & Murdock? Also, I wonder if you would consider Doctor Who: Trial of a Time Lord for a video.

@rogueviking9268

2 жыл бұрын

Objection! Nelson, Murdock and Page...

@mueggsy

2 жыл бұрын

@@rogueviking9268 overruled. Karen isn't a lawyer.

@The_One_In_Black

2 жыл бұрын

@@aman541 That hasn't aired yet.

@kramer221084

2 жыл бұрын

Oh s…t he forgot!!

@GermanLeftist

2 жыл бұрын

Trial of a Time Lord is over five and a half hours long though.

This was great. Your videos are always good. I'm going to go look at Nebula now. This was not an endorsement, but rather a genuine compliment. Onward.

I would love to see you do a movie lawyer tier list as I want to see where you would put Fletcher Reede from Liar Liar.

@turkishjanitor3666

11 ай бұрын

And to stick to Jim Carrey characters, Steven Jay Russel from I Love You Philip Morris (he may dethrone Barry Zuckerkorn as the worst lawyer)

You are my favourite TV lawyer!

you did not account for the special power of "winger speech"

@to0muchfreetime

2 жыл бұрын

D Tier for Jeff Winger "Look how they massacred my boy!"

@louisvermorgen7059

2 жыл бұрын

He even knows when to slap the table! S tier minimum

@darkisss9621

2 жыл бұрын

Let's not forget matrix level paintball skills.

@nurainiarsad7395

2 жыл бұрын

ikr ? no special abilities?!

Nice video! Would've love to see your opinion on Philadelphia

The strategically placed text got me

I imagine Devin dressing up in a fine Indochino suit on his days off, logging into Twitch, and streaming something classy like Legend of Zelda or Goldeneye

Nobody in the E tier on this list, which makes the F tier all the lonelier....

@whocares9033

2 жыл бұрын

Right? It's like they're so bad that the F tier was made just for them 🤣

@DanielLCarrier

2 жыл бұрын

I assume they're on the extended version.

@NotHPotter

2 жыл бұрын

E tier is a fake tier.

2 жыл бұрын

@@DanielLCarrier Nope, E is empty so far

The Practice was an amazing show! Honestly I really loved Eleanor, she was a kickass lawyer ❤️

I actually did watch Eli Stone with the family when I was younger! However, we stopped near the end of the series when my step dad kept getting second hand embarrassment from him reacting to the visions.

**Anxiously waits for Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer** **Sees rating** LEGIT LIST, MY DUDE.

love your channel men

It does my heart so well to know that I can trust Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer with my legale needs. However, I an fascinated tobsee how the firm of Nelson and Murdock would fair in this battle, as well as Gerin Hogarth.

Objection! In the episode “Basic Lupine Urology”, we get to see Jeff Winger’s lawyering skills first-hand, and he ultimately wins the case of the murdered yam.

@Mosydys

2 жыл бұрын

Annie did most of the work. Even the talking. She got an innocent man to confess to a crime he didn't commit. The way she did it wouldn't work in real court, but Jeff was on the sidelines.

@willcharters878

2 жыл бұрын

He also won, or at least achieved a positive outcome for Britta at the Olympic pool's judging table in Advanced Criminal Law. And under special skills, surely always knowing what to say and when to slap the table should be recognised as the innate skill that it is

@AccordionFrog

2 жыл бұрын

Didn’t he also convince an arson victim he preferred his house on fire

@corydwagner

2 жыл бұрын

And "He convinced a judge to dismiss five years of back taxes by getting him to agree that [a stripper] humping an American flag to "Back in Black" was not stripping but actually not for profit performance art!"

8:42 Photographic memory imo is a better skill for the Detective class rather than the Lawyer class.

@MMallon425

2 жыл бұрын

All he has to do is read actual law books and he would immediately be S tier

@JeffKelly03

2 жыл бұрын

True. Just ask Shawn Spencer.

You need to also look at James Sinclair, defense attorney on NYPD Blue, and Ted Hoffman of “Murder One” - both played by Daniel Benzali

I got a legal eagle ad on a legal eagle video. Perfect.

“Lawful Neutral” … someone knows their way around a polyhedral die!

@Djorgal

2 жыл бұрын

@@expertoflizardcorrugation3967 Me too, it's easily in my top 9.

@halclay6179

2 жыл бұрын

"Roll for Initiative!!"