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@daltonjames2705

4 ай бұрын

I would rank necrochasm highers. I use it ALOT it's pretty damn good

@MT-qo6xl

4 ай бұрын

Can you add a chart of all the exotic weapons from f tier to s tier, it will be easier to view and understand

@Titos1234

2 ай бұрын

Am I the only one who would say that rat king belongs in. s tear especially on a invid hunter build

Cold Heart actually got a buff, where the damage ramp up transfers to multiple targets within a second. So against multiple people you just delete them and only need to ramp up on the first target. Makes it actually really viable for pvp imo

So sad that hierarchy of need is so bad. I really thought Bungie would give it a new secret effect once warmind cells went away since we only had it for 1 season with the secret interaction they could just update the secret perk so shooting any "construct" gives a larger ring. And they could use tangles or possibly fire sprites and void breaches. It's also just a cool looking bow so I want it to be good.

@connormcateer7125

4 ай бұрын

It is actually very good in PVE, especially paired with solar warlock.

@x9x9x9x9x9

4 ай бұрын

@@connormcateer7125 it's good on one build with warlock. That doesn't make it a good weapon. Delicate tomb has okay arc builds on all classes but that doesn't mean it's good.

@ShadowDestiny2

4 ай бұрын

yeah, it's SUCH an amazingly cool weapon, it's unfortunately just painful to use in its current form. Maybe next year when I make this video it will have been buffed!

@connormcateer7125

4 ай бұрын

@@x9x9x9x9x9 Apex predator is good at one thing in DPS. Just cause it fulfills one use well doesn’t make it a bad weapon. It’s a meta GM build for warlocks using it to refuel the arguably most important super in the game since it has the extra perk of giving a ton of super energy on kill. You can get a 2nd in your own well. Additionally it can work on multiple classes, it just pairs best with warlock bc it has a ton of synergies. Universal-ness doesn’t make a weapon good or not good. It’s Solar this season too, so it can give the radiant buff making it basically intrinsic anti barrier, so the only other bow possibly worth running (for warlock, the other classes still benefit from wish) is le monarque, and hierarchy is better suited for most synergies.

@x9x9x9x9x9

4 ай бұрын

@@connormcateer7125 Sister. No.

This list basically reminds me that all my favorite weapons will never be nerfed.

@kyanmatena3948

4 ай бұрын

exactly what i thought, until you remember that stuff like Wishkeeper is getting absolutely gutted because of other bows being good

@ncrranger8449

23 күн бұрын

@@kyanmatena3948idk about gutted it’s still quite good but free wall hacks is a bit absurd

As an Ostio Striga fan, I agree with the original ranking on here, at least when in most Crucible games. However, it becomes a LOT of fun in Momentum Control.

I agree with most of this list - But having Wishender in B-tier, in the current meta, is wild. Easily an S-tier weapon, one of the most oppressive weapons in the game in 3v3s, at least until its upcoming nerf in a few weeks. Having it in the same tier as Bad Juju is laughable.

@silentnoise6404

2 ай бұрын

Its B tier now after rework

We need PVE lists bro😢

Love the content shadow! Do you think you could do this but for pve as well? Keep it up❤

Thank you! Great basis for anyone new walking into pvp or someone looking for a refresher. 🤜🤛 Lion not S Tier is a definetly a different perspective. 💪

@reggielacey2235

2 ай бұрын

Nobody cares about pvp

@dannielrodriguez3826

2 ай бұрын

​@@reggielacey2235 i came here for pvp reasons 🙄 sounds like u just had a bad day 🤷

@MJoZz13

Ай бұрын

Yeah but that's what a lot of people still play because sadly the gaming industry forgot how to make decent games. ​@@reggielacey2235

i'd personally say coldheart is on the border of d tier if used correctly, the cold fusion perk is just a better target lock since it only needs hits and not headshots, and it was updated so the charge up to that effect is preserved for a few seconds after releasing the trigger, so you can tap fire it to preserve ammo kinda like div and the bubble, it's far from the best but e tier doesn't seem accurate, but that's just my thoughts on it and ultimately i have no say in it's placement

@user-dd4fv6qj8g

4 ай бұрын

Target lock doesn't need headshots though....

One thing you forgot about Polaris Lance: It also causes your kill to explode if it was a precision kill. Situational, of course, but fun when enemies are stacking up. Also, good vs rift-camping warlocks

Helped a classmates of mine get his heads hots for Lunas Howl by using div. It was a great time lol 😂

feels illegal to be this early - great content as always, keep up the good work Shadow!

@ShadowDestiny2

4 ай бұрын

thank you

@reggielacey2235

2 ай бұрын

Except he's biased

Yooooo! Video idea, can you pleaseee rank legendaries for trials and comp pvp :)

Izanagi's is my favorite sniper by far. Idk why, but it feels great to use

I made it to the end and can't thank you enough. I have a lot of weapons to pull out of the vault to play with.

@ShadowDestiny2

4 ай бұрын

thanks for watching!

I would love it if you did a video like this on legendary weapons like 1 video on each class of weapon. This video was a massive help thank you so much.❤

@ShadowDestiny2

3 ай бұрын

I will make that video! Thanks

@kenkaneki9257

3 ай бұрын

@@ShadowDestiny2 awesomeness thanks i appriate it

Vigilance Wing over Centrifuse is wild😂😂 Thanks for the video man👍

Thanks!

I love Malfeasance in both pve and pvp. And The Huckleberry in pvp and free roam pve. Both such great weapons and require little to no effort to pull off the perks to their glorious maximum effect.

From seeing Wallahs video on coldheart, its probably better than the other exotic traces rifles in 6v6 modes

Shadow u have to try final warning again but hipfire... there is a learning curve to this sidearm and it's crazy if u get the hang of it. Just aim at the enemy till it locks, turn the corner or go behind cover, hip fire at the air, profit

@ShadowDestiny2

4 ай бұрын

Too much setup for too little reward. It’s not a good exotic

@electrogamer7325

4 ай бұрын

@@ShadowDestiny2Idk if its “little reward”. Some of the best tracking in the game, multi targeting, synergy with strand, potential to instantly switch to a .27 ttk

@colewilliams2906

4 ай бұрын

@@electrogamer7325 devils fills a similar role and is much easier $ consistent

@ZhaloSupercell1

4 ай бұрын

​@@electrogamer7325a 0.27 ttk after a 1 second charge time is a 1.27ttk which is terrible

@Copper9800

4 ай бұрын

@Blackarot. yes but you get the advantage of being behind cover. As I said, it's a learning curve but if you get the hang of it, you can mess gaurdians up because they don't expect it.

I LOVE doing this game where I guess which sponsor is for the video. I hear and recognize the transition from video to sponsor and pause before the sponsor is shown or seen. I guessed Factor for this video. Damn it.

For the homing bullets with final warning U MUST HIP FIRE THE WHOLE CHARGING PROCESS AND STAY IN HIP FIRE WHILE FIRING

We need some “360 no scope 50m drop headshot” compilation 😆

Im not a pvp main but this was very informative. Thanks for the input.

Buried Bloodline actually slaps in PvP but it’s all about the situations you’re In… like sure if they’re moving around or floating not great… but mid range or steady long range can kill easily… 2 tap to the head provided they’re not being all shifty with their movement

I use a verglas curve build in pvp and it is possible the best thing I've ever tried.

Cold heart did get buffed so you now have a second after leaving the target to keep the damage and it still increases as well

I enjoyed your video I 100 percent agree with your video. The thing for me I'm a returning player,I've been on and off destiny 2 for years I finally got all the content except final shape and upon loading up was instantly overwhelmed by missing content not knowing what to do and what weapons to delete as my inventory is almost full (really want help on this) I'm attempting another go at it your kids help so much thanks

You’re using the wish keeper wrong, the trap is meant to be set before hand. Expect where the enemy is gonna be and set the trap, they also will get disoriented from the sudden shift in hight

I think i liked how you proposed the AD the most, probably the best AD ive seen from a content creator

@ShadowDestiny2

2 ай бұрын

Thanks

@OriginalLongLongMan

2 ай бұрын

@@ShadowDestiny2 you’re very welcome

Revision Zero user here, one thing I tend to do with it is pair it with Knucklehead as it involves a lot of ADSing and the old foetracer perk makes it S tier tbh

Wish Ender at B tier is wild. Easily an S-tier weapon or the very least A-tier. Free wall hacks + team shot potential for a 2tap

Delicate tomb with fallen sunstar is SO GOOD in high level content, used it in grand masters and it SHREDS

Thank you!!!

Rat King in the tier list below Jotunn hurts my feelings. Great list though. Would live to see legendary weapons ranked too ( you could omit some, there are a metric ton of them).

@lucasfarabaugh4085

4 ай бұрын

this list is extremely opinionated by this guy. rat king is a significantly better option to take to the crucible

i might have a crazy request... how about you make a tierlist(or top 50) for every sunsetted pve and pvp weapon

@ShadowDestiny2

4 ай бұрын

Hmm I just did something similar on my main channel, it’s not a tier list but it covers many sunset weapons

Id love to see you go back and do a list for Destiny 1

@ShadowDestiny2

4 ай бұрын

Sounds very fun, but I’m not sure it would get the views unfortunately 😂

@tomlom69

4 ай бұрын

@@ShadowDestiny2 pwease? For me? 🥺 👉👈

@tomlom69

4 ай бұрын

@@ShadowDestiny2 Really though, I understand where you're coming from.

I’d suggest that Wishender is better than a B-tier given how common it is in Trials.

Close to 800 pvp kills with ticcu after only 2 months using it, very fun and slept on

Hey I would like to let you know your miss using final warning the point of the gun to make it way better is by hipfiring

Cold heart actually melts if you use it right. You need to use mask of bakaris and tap fire it and the thing melts. 👍🏼 ide put in at least C tier

I just got conditional finality to drop this past weekend and MAN, it slaps so hard. Im a mainly pve player and i absolutely love how it feels so i know ill love it in pvp as well. Heres praying they dont nerf it at all dur to pvp dominance 😭

ToM is very good vs well as the blight 1 shots. Also, yes, Devil's ruin has around a .3 ttk and pierces hunter arcstaff block

I'm only here to see what I missed in the past 4 years. I quit Destiny in 2020. Renting DLC for 3-4 months for $40 wasn't worth it. Imma take note of all the weapons I didn't know were released (Annotations: *** = never released when I played; ^ = returning weapon never released when I played; ? = unsure): Delicate Tomb *** Hiearchy of Needs *** *_Drink CTRL_* (As a diabetic with bad eating habits, this would greatly help) Verglas Curve *** Divinity The 4th Horseman Dead Messenger *** Ex Diris *** Vexcalibur *** Wish-Keeper *** Buried Bloodline *** The Navigator *** Trinity Ghoul Symmetry Final Warning *** Wicked Implement *** Coldheart Lord of Wolves Cerberus+1 Edge of Titan *** Skyburner's Oath Ruinous Effigy *** Osteo Striga *** Izanagi's Burden Touch of Malice ^ Sweet Business Bastion Riskrunner Prometheus Lens Wavesplitter Eriana's Vow Mida Multi-Tool Polaris Lance Arbalest Ticuu's Divination Hard Light Rat King Monte Carlo The Manticore *** Tessellation *** Centrifuse *** Tommy's Matchbook *** Ager's Scepter *** Necrochasm ^ Witherhoard *** Jotunn Trespasser Graviton Lance Outbreak Perfected Telesto Lumina Malfeasance Wishender Dead Man's Tale Bad Juju Vigilance Wing Sturm Merciless Borealis The Huckleberry Fighting Lion Forerunner (the Halo magnum) *** Lorentz Driver *** Quicksilver Storm *** Suros Regime Devil's Ruin Revision Zero *** Jade Rabbit Collective Obligation *** Hawkmoon The Last Word Cryosthesia 77K *** Sunshot Vex Mythoclast ^ Crimson Traveler's Chosen *** No Time to Explain ^ Duality *** Cloudstrike *** Conditional Finality *** Ace of Spades Le Monarque The Chaperone Tarrabah *** Thorn

Conditional Finality the shotgun that got me to use shotguns in pvp...i hated using them until i got my hands on it...i call it the super shotgun of destiny 2 not only due to it being a sawed off double barrel but it works very very similar to the super shotgun from doom! it is currently my favorite exotic weapon and hasn't left the inventory of my hunter since getting it!

LETS GOOOOO edit: alright after watching the entire video i can say its a certified banger (as per usual)

@ShadowDestiny2

4 ай бұрын

appreciate you vohvo!

@vohvo2306

4 ай бұрын

I find use in Cerberus. I do decent with it unlike things like Trace Rifles, Last Word, some Shotguns and Snipers.

Symmetry should definetly be higher on this list. The best use for it is mid-range flinching your targets.

@foe_wredz

Ай бұрын

Honestly I think it should be there

Heararchy of needs, cast that ring and flank, out of the box strat thou works

Lowkey, i know its not a heavy weapon ranking, but salvation’s grip is so much fun and kinda good

hey shadow we did every exotic weapons what about every exotic armor ?

The fact that shadow mixes up horizontal and vertical is SO frustrating!

Final warning is S tier. You’ll all see soon enough

Something you forgot to mention about Huckleberry: it has the original version of rampage, not the updated weaker one.

holy i didnt even know this vid was an HOUR long. i quit d2 like 2 years ago because i got bored, and wanted to see what to use when i come back, and i just watched, thought 15 ish minutes passed, and its been AN HOUR. great vid, i really liked it, and im kinda glad most of the exotics i liked for pvp are in A tier, since as a f2p i never got those SSS++ rank weapons

Yeah Cold Heart is actually really good now. And fun.

I see Hierarchy of Needs used and use it myself in GM's. It does a ton of damage for a primary. I can definitely understand it going into F for PVP. It's not F for PVE.

so no one saw how clean that transition was at 40:00?

Nice vid Shadow. I appreciate you putting out stuff like this & I aggreed with most of it, but....I have some notes: Hawkmoon not S-tier because it can be outclassed by legendary handcannons..Rose exists Last Word is outclassed by SMGs Sunshot...you mentioned all of the weaknesses so why is it S-tier? Crimson is used in comp all of the time NTTE is outclasses by any high impact pulse with headseeker (no higher than A-tier)

Sweet Business + Actium War Rig my beloved

The drink ctrl was an advert I can say I watched lmao the drink stats were 🤣

Shadow respect your content and videos in general, but you have Final Warning wrong. You don't need to fully charge it, the hip fire can track around walls and barricades and its a weapon that can consistently kill supers. While it does have a learning curve to use, sticking it in E tier is doing it a disservice.

I love Vergales Curve in PvP, as well as skyburners. I also destroy with Ruinous Effigy, It makes people so mad. Use Ruinous with Astrocyte Verse and a nice handcannon and you destroy.

the wishkeeper feels like it doesnt get enough recognition, i have about 1500 kills on mine and it was for a while the most fun ive had in the sandbox, bit since theyre gutting bows and changing everything i might just go back to my wicked implement(ations) of stasis

*casually sips tea with almost 1k pvp kills on divinity*

Symetrie in PVP is actually quite strong 2 reasons. one you are not permitted to use alt fire mode all the time which gives you slower autoaim shots that also deal a bit of aoe damage. as it is not very common used it is quite efficient on long range encounters as people often missjudge how it functions. However its drawback is that the slow fire mode in close combat is extremly bad to use. Overall I would say C-Tier in PVP even it can reach a solid b tier with the right builds

Hey shadow, in your opinion, with the health changes and ammo changes, do you still think this is accurate?

@ShadowDestiny2

2 ай бұрын

Yes

Great Video! I'm rearranging some of my PVP loadouts to include the S and SS tier weapons, but Graviton Lance will always remain in at least one loadout due to the disrespect it shows opponents that are sent tumbling when they are destroyed by it.

Last Word in S Tier is crazy it should be A it’s not competing with the other weapons in the S Tier in on controller in this current smg meta using that gun makes you a daring guardian so I would strongly argue A Tier

@raiden_tt

4 ай бұрын

I think S tier is fair considering it’s the only exotic hand cannon without a catalyst and still does amazing, and it’s one of the only weapons that’s made strictly for pvp

@TheHeadincharge

4 ай бұрын

How can you say being S tier is crazy if you’d put it as a strong A tier? If you’re only moving the weapon up or down one tier, then the ranking is certainly in the ballpark…

@silvergrimoire

4 ай бұрын

@@TheHeadincharge well if we’re being honest outside of the hands a good PvP player that weapon is practically useless on controller, you need to know what your doing with that weapon to have it be efffective otherwise it’s outshined by practically every other exotic handcannon aside like Erriana’s Vow, I personally find the weapon easier to use with Knucklehead radar but if I’m not mistaken even in the video Shadow says it’s a weapon that’s needs help

@silvergrimoire

4 ай бұрын

@@raiden_tt in the current meta we’re in I strongly disagree the weapon has to be used at close quarters so that eliminates it being effective again the most used weapons nowadays Smgs, it will lose to a shotgun anyday so the weapon is very much not usable in the type of engagement it’s designed to function in

I havent played rift in while and i forgot convergence existed as a map

I love Cryosythesia 77k I’m working on the catalyst but somehow I’ve encountered people who were immune to my charge shot and didn’t freeze to a direct hit in crucible

@ncrranger8449

23 күн бұрын

It’s kinda luck based it seems

Also when polaris lance gets the fire shot it wont crit.i have been one head shot away from the kill and the fire shot came up and would not finish.

I recently acquired Wish-Ender and it has now become my weapon of choice for PvP, especially Trials. The ability to see through walls is invaluable. I know my opponents are wondering how I consistently get those head shots when they come sneaking around the corner. Even if it doesn't kill them it scares them into backing off and playing defensively, so the other guys on my team can move in and finish them off.

@JUIIICED.

4 ай бұрын

Chances are they’re not wondering lol.

@thebapslaps

4 ай бұрын

agreeing with juice. No one is wondering, odds are when they see Wish Ender they are groaning in pain knowing someone is just running around with a 2 tap weapon with wallhacks. It trivializes most games and just makes it unfun for the people fighting it. But since there is no ban list or anything. Anything goes, so wallhacks it is.

Thank you for making a pvp video. It doesnt get as much love as pve, but its still my favorite mode.

0:33 wow looks so funny to play with! Reminds of Dead Space

I was really hoping for a pve list. But i agree with this list in pvp either way

Delicate Tomb on an Arc Warlock is a ad clearing machine

Can I still get malf the normal way? I've reset my gambit rank twice and haven't even seen meatball spawn.

Delicate Tomb is somewhat right but its a god at add clear in PvE. Pair it with Geomag and you got a 30 sec cd on Chaos Reach

i left destiny before destiny 2 came out, back when thorn was an op monster and would 2 tap kill. i come back nearly 10 years into the games life and to my horror they buff the gun i escaped all those years ago 😭😭😭

Yeah! Thank you

Maybe I missed it but I didn't see Skyburner's Oath mentioned. Is it really so bad that it wasn't even worth listing?

i was here watching this

oh also the exotic glaves you can use 3 extra charge mods and only have to hit 2 shots and it auto charges the last sliver over like 5 seconds of holding the gun

@kyanmatena3948

4 ай бұрын

did they change it then? i thought with 3 charge mods it gave (roughly) 34% per hit so you could fully charge it in 3

@freyawilliams-hk7gj

4 ай бұрын

@@kyanmatena3948 mostly refering to pvp where while running around getting to a fight you can hold the glave and then have it only require one kill to fully charge in s short amount of time should have been clearer mb

In my opinion touch of malice would be more useful on warlock due to the fact that warlocks have their healing rifts

I love your content, but I have to disagree with the cold heart placement. The intrinsic target lock is forgiving, and has a 1 second leeway (I think), and it doesn't lose its DMG progress when changing targets within that 1 second. It allows some crazy plays with bakris, or any arc surges (give it a try), but what do I know, I'm pretty mid in PVP anyways 😂

Divinity at F is so insane, it’s easily one of the best raid exotics

@jackpurchon6695

3 ай бұрын

I feel like this list is definitly how good the weapon is exclusively in pvp sadly

Vexcalibur is great if you use feedback fences

I love Osteo and Trinity Goul. :D Guess I play different than most players 😅

thorn + necrotic grips is insane

I've been using Crimson and thanks to that gun alone I've been hitting kill streaks that I never would have been able to otherwise. And yes before you say anything the last announcement Bungie made, crimson will be getting nerfed. but until then I will be grinning ear to ear with those clean 2 burst headshots

I love using touch of malice in the crucible

Literally just watching the first clip kinda shows me what I already need to know. 1. Hipfire isn't meant to snipe 2. You literally didn't even try in the clip.

div with lightweight knives are pretty fun

@ShadowDestiny2

4 ай бұрын

fun yes, effective no. Using any SMG would have a much faster TTK

I heard cold heart is making a comeback right now. Cammycakes mentions it basically has rampage on hit in his newest video..

Next rank every exotic catalyst

Some of these weapons you mentioned in the very low tier are really good in PVE

@ShadowDestiny2

4 ай бұрын

yes definitely

I must have missed the bad juju somewhere.