The Biggest Scandals in Destiny History: A Retrospective

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This video covers the most absurd scandals and drama that we've witnessed over the past 10 years in the Destiny community. From the times that streamers got caught cheating to the KZreadr who got banned and sued for $7.6 million, these events are pretty wild. You may have heard of some of these stories in the past, but this video puts them all together in one place, and provides updates on how the stories have developed over time. I hope you enjoy the video.
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0:00 Start
0:28 KZreadr gets Caught Cheating (Baken)
3:07 Player Banned and Sued $500k for Sending Pizza to Bungie
4:34 XP Throttling Scam Fiasco
7:08 Content Creator Banned After Leaking Bungie Summit
9:43 The Infamous Starter Pack
10:47 Reboots
11:36 Bungie Bans The Speedrunning Community
13:04 People Getting Wrongly Banned (e.g. D2Gunsmith)
14:21 Sunsetting, Weapon Retirement, and its REVERSAL
15:33 Bungie Bans KZreadr & Sues Him for $7,600,000
19:20 G1
21:25 2017 Woes & Scuffed launch
23:18 Activision Dissatisfied with Forsaken
23:49 Monetization & Microtransaction Drama
24:53 Mass Layoffs
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  • @ShadowDestiny2
    @ShadowDestiny2Ай бұрын

    Subscribe so we can reach 100k on the 2nd channel :) And I recommend watching this next: The UNWRITTEN Rules of Destiny 2: kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2SF1LShqbC6hdY.html

  • @deepakl9819

    @deepakl9819

    Ай бұрын

    No you weren't

  • @sekris4768

    @sekris4768

    Ай бұрын

    you really shouldve included the Cruz ban situation

  • @Sheylan_

    @Sheylan_

    Ай бұрын

    Hey, just a thing nothing to do with this video but it’s a fun fact if you want for a next video. Since the beginning of destiny 2 we can now about the witness. When you spawn a the tower and look at the left of the hangar entrance u can see the traveler with the triangle spray on the wall. So I mean, is the end of the game is already hide somewhere ?🤔

  • @ShadowDestiny2

    @ShadowDestiny2

    Ай бұрын

    that symbol has been around for a long time and has nothing to do with the traveler or the witness (just a coincidence)

  • @ericx6969

    @ericx6969

    Ай бұрын

    i have not seen insight terminus nightfall or strike in forever lol

  • @firedell1031
    @firedell1031Ай бұрын

    Not showing up to court when you know you're being sued for $500k is craaazy

  • @luk4aaaa

    @luk4aaaa

    Ай бұрын

    Peak mental illness

  • @cyphi1

    @cyphi1

    Ай бұрын

    IMO it's the only reasonable thing to do

  • @Ediicius

    @Ediicius

    15 күн бұрын

    he wasnt beating bungies legal team so... yeah lol

  • @LuckyJay817

    @LuckyJay817

    14 күн бұрын

    He just gonna file for bankruptcy at the end ​@@Ediicius

  • @alltimenative

    @alltimenative

    13 күн бұрын

    "yea i aint paying dat"

  • @naskosokurov1815
    @naskosokurov1815Ай бұрын

    "I used to walk in a store and find a game. Now I open a game and find a store". That still hits REALLY hard, not just for D2. Edit: wow, I wasn't expecting so many likes, thank you guys!

  • @chefbennyj

    @chefbennyj

    Ай бұрын

    Oh! This is priceless! It should be on a t shirt! 😂 Very clever!

  • @naskosokurov1815

    @naskosokurov1815

    Ай бұрын

    @@chefbennyj That's not me, that's Aztecross in his infamous video which was mentioned

  • @Arctis326

    @Arctis326

    Ай бұрын

    Boohoo

  • @cheredonlanz5443

    @cheredonlanz5443

    Ай бұрын

    😂😂soo true

  • @Exio407

    @Exio407

    Ай бұрын

    You don’t have to thank people for likes

  • @LifelessTooth
    @LifelessToothАй бұрын

    The funniest thing about the Ekeugan scandal is that Bungie never outright revealed who the leaker was, and it was EK's own reaction to his ban that confirmed it.

  • @exxy9931

    @exxy9931

    Ай бұрын

    I mean. It’s not like you couldn’t piece it together if he didn’t reveal himself. His livelihood is as a content creator and playing Destiny constantly to never again after a public announcement sends up red flags. Either way, it would’ve came back to him. The only difference is that he tried to save himself from the ban; considering both sides were “trust me bro,” on it, the stupidity was on full display for both sides. The only thing is if Bungie had multiple years of evidence like they said, why was he banned only then instead of at least being black-listed from returning. At best, negligence on Bungie’s end. At worst, he was a scapegoat or free publicity for upcoming content.

  • @orangesoda51414

    @orangesoda51414

    Ай бұрын

    @@exxy9931 more than likely they wanted enough evidence to be absolutely certain he couldn't try to claim defamation or some other crazy thing, and prior to the sony acquisition they prob weren't really all that worried about the leaks so they just didn't do anything about it and then sony prob cracked down on them after the poor lightfall performance and continued leaks

  • @mattf8779

    @mattf8779

    Ай бұрын

    @@exxy9931 Because it takes a long time to try and find a mole. These summits can often involve a large amount of content creators and so trying to find the specific person leaking requires time. You have to look at all the leaks and trace them back to specific summits. Then look at everyone who was invited and see if there is a person who happened to be at all the summits that had info leaked from. The problem is that the same creators get invited back again and again so there were probably a handful of creators that were going to all the summits that had leaks.

  • @LifelessTooth

    @LifelessTooth

    Ай бұрын

    Bungie's main reason for not sharing the evidence with the community was to prevent others from learning how to avoid detection, much like when they talk about how they implement anti-cheat stuff. That's why they never even mentioned the well-known taskbar thing in their official post. Also when they said they had collected evidence going back years, it doesn't mean they found the leaker years ago and just waited to ban them lmao. It means the evidence they found during the investigation was FROM years back.

  • @JoJoDaFox

    @JoJoDaFox

    Ай бұрын

    They had ZERO EVIDENCE, I know for a fact it was not EK that leaked, The reason they did not say his name is because they have no evidence at all which in court would not hold up IF THEY HAD NAMED HIM. I could do the same thing to any of the big content creators and have already proved to more than a few that what they consider evidence is BULLSHIT. This community is so blinded, They bitch about Bungie and then want to give them a reach around... To many pay for services and they are at the mercy of those they hire to do the work on their rigs. " fps gains, setting up obs & and the list goes on" Now what would be the best way to get into someone's rig, offer service that sounds viable knowing there are more sinister things that will happen in the background. This can happen over years and is still happening to creators, and when you have community managers like Hippy and the other trashcan that got fired for their bullshit DRAMA crap pushing narratives to the community with nothing but a word for evidence. Which than trash-talked the same company they worked for "Bungie" saying how bad it was why would you even believe them. The fact is Bungie went out of their way to make a patsy out of EK wouldn't name him cause they knew that would go to court and they would lose. I have sent multiple emails and reached out to countless on the matter explaining and actually showing them how this could happen without the owner knowing. Over a 3-year period EK's PC was remote into 38 different times, He hired someone to give his PC more FPS. The person who installed Teamviewer "remote software " enabled it at startup, Hid it from task bar, and set a password for themselves. Every time EK booted this person had access to his desktop, with that sort of access the sky is the limit. Let me just say after reaching out more than a few Creators have reset their whole setups. EK offered for Bungie to take his PC and cell phone along with anything else they wanted, yet you didn't hear shit about that. A you were hearing was what the multiple community managers were saying " directed by Bungie" The same people that the community shit on multiple time for other reasons somehow become the light of truth ?????? WTF is that about.... Don't be so Blind this goes for everyone playing the game. >I< ZERO GAP

  • @Emeowy
    @EmeowyАй бұрын

    I was expecting the Baken incident lmao

  • @johnpaulcross424

    @johnpaulcross424

    Ай бұрын

    You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

  • @ilysaud

    @ilysaud

    Ай бұрын

    @@johnpaulcross424 word

  • @progenitor_amborella

    @progenitor_amborella

    Ай бұрын

    This was the first one I expected lmao

  • @whitehuayra

    @whitehuayra

    Ай бұрын

    Baken was the first one mentioned in the video 😅

  • @phelan8385

    @phelan8385

    Ай бұрын

    That's crazy, I watched him a long time ago, stopped playing for a long time and this is my first time hearing of any of this.

  • @EdibleClown
    @EdibleClownАй бұрын

    I remember the fraudulent copyright claims also hit Byf's MASSIVE EFFORT Dynasty video. I felt so bad for him because of how much time he spent on that video.

  • @mggaming968

    @mggaming968

    Ай бұрын

    It hit my favourite music channel, Promethean, Archival Mind, who lost more or less 90% of his audio database because of it. A ton of that music was in removed parts of the game and he didn't have the original files archived, so it was just gone.

  • @annoyingnessbeginswithme5698

    @annoyingnessbeginswithme5698

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@mggaming968 Yeah 😢, one of my favorite IO variant songs is now gone forever because of the whole false suing

  • @dominikdoom

    @dominikdoom

    Ай бұрын

    @@annoyingnessbeginswithme5698 Two other channels called "Last City Radio" and "Destiny Music Archive" have (re)uploaded a lot of it after the issue was resolved, might be worth taking a look. Especially LCR has most vaulted songs.

  • @fomori2

    @fomori2

    Ай бұрын

    Considering false DMCA claims are criminal PERJURY, I am surprised no criminal action has been taken. It could be the perpetrator is not a US citizen, but I would hope they were still charged with the crimes.

  • @EdibleRockingChair

    @EdibleRockingChair

    Ай бұрын

    I like your name

  • @majora919
    @majora919Ай бұрын

    Baken still plays the game to this day under the name "Emperor of Japan" somehow he hasn't been banned in over a year

  • @gmanking19

    @gmanking19

    Ай бұрын

    @@krookedkrewCheaters a cheater. Get them out the game

  • @MrTavrosNitram

    @MrTavrosNitram

    Ай бұрын

    @@krookedkrew cheater glazer

  • @kfossa344

    @kfossa344

    Ай бұрын

    @@krookedkrew Snitch lmao. Fuck all the cheaters. Every. Single. One of them.

  • @Official_Golden

    @Official_Golden

    Ай бұрын

    @@krookedkrew Nah cheater is a cheater, get that goof outta here

  • @cell9899

    @cell9899

    Ай бұрын

    Is he any good without cheating??

  • @ArchivalMind
    @ArchivalMindАй бұрын

    Hi, personally impacted person by the Nazo incident here. While I definitely don't speak for everyone, the biggest hit taken for me was the betrayal. This man straight-up made a Discord group, invited all the Destiny music archivists in it, and pretended to not know what was happening. It was all a big mistake on his end, one born from one of CSC's legitimate ban waves the month prior, and I understand that frustration, but the lies and deception towards US, his supposed friends, made an already bad situation a dozen times worse. To put it bluntly, shit sucked.

  • @ShadowDestiny2

    @ShadowDestiny2

    Ай бұрын

    Sorry you were impacted, that whole situation was just awful.

  • @JabeRaddle
    @JabeRaddleАй бұрын

    The pizza thing is way worse than you make it out. It was a way of showing the community manager that he knew where he lived and therefore could send other more dangerous things or SWAT or doxx him.

  • @metpach

    @metpach

    Ай бұрын

    You left out the part where DMG continually would gaslight this individual. And even "bet" that he had no idea where he was located.

  • @digizilla164

    @digizilla164

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@metpach yeah no and yoy dont know what gaslighting is.

  • @metpach

    @metpach

    Ай бұрын

    @@digizilla164 DMG would consistently go on Reddit and consistently put ppl down for having different opinions. Not only that, but would block ppl on Twitter for asking about crucible maps. DMG would consistently poke at disgruntled players, and then when they clapped back, he would play the victim. He ended up costing Bungie money, so they didn't renew his contract. Eventually they fired all the other cms. Why? Because of DMG. They don't need CMs and they definitely don't need him.

  • @jesseritchie9282

    @jesseritchie9282

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@metpach Absolutely correct

  • @isellfreemoney9899

    @isellfreemoney9899

    Ай бұрын

    @@metpachso you think he deserved getting doxxed and harassed?

  • @BinNurEmma
    @BinNurEmmaАй бұрын

    A friend of mine got banned because he unknowingly played with a cheater. He found someone through a lfg discord to play trials with when it first came out in destiny 2. The person was playing really, really good and he even got suspicious one time, but they promised him that it was 100% legit... Yeah, he got banned a few days later.

  • @Rimuru-nt1cu

    @Rimuru-nt1cu

    22 күн бұрын

    Was it a permaban or a temporary ban?

  • @BinNurEmma

    @BinNurEmma

    22 күн бұрын

    @@Rimuru-nt1cu perma ban

  • @vanessacannon393

    @vanessacannon393

    18 күн бұрын

    @@BinNurEmma Yeah, that rule can backfire.

  • @SynthwaveCrusader
    @SynthwaveCrusaderАй бұрын

    The most amusing thing about Baken is that if he hadn't ego challenged dmg and just quietly made a new account he could have probably flown under the radar and kept things rolling with his channel.

  • @JPOG7TV

    @JPOG7TV

    Ай бұрын

    That’s the thing with cheaters, they think they can mess around irl like in the game but then get hit with a reality check

  • @Official_Golden

    @Official_Golden

    Ай бұрын

    Thats the problem with cheaters, they have a big ego and end up just digging their own hole lmao

  • @myuutosan

    @myuutosan

    Ай бұрын

    That's the thing with cheaters, they suck BBC

  • @troudbalos333

    @troudbalos333

    Ай бұрын

    Well if dmg didnt also have an ego, the situation would have been dealt in dms and baken would have silently disapeared until he made a new account that is. Instead we have the situation becoming mainstream and an other reason to hate dmg.

  • @callmeriggy

    @callmeriggy

    Ай бұрын

    @@troudbalos333 tbh, the clap back from DMG was 100% warranted. he gave the customer service response the first time, and the cheater pushed it. Baken deserved to get clowned.

  • @itsreapernecrosis2215
    @itsreapernecrosis2215Ай бұрын

    Always surprised that no one ever talks about the Saltegreppo's world's first raid team has had two of its members banned for cheats. Surprised the rest of the teams worlds firsts haven't come into question at this point.

  • @martinprovo2389

    @martinprovo2389

    Ай бұрын

    Wow, I didn't know about the first one. Between that and being behind in one of the raids, not even top 5 at that point but magically coming from behind and winning by a few minutes in combination with viewers watching other streamers and then telling them mechanics they were stuck on, I really don't get the clout or revere they're given by so many in tbe community. Not to mention the constant complaining just because they find it boring despite playing it probably 60% more than normal people.

  • @MrAhds

    @MrAhds

    Ай бұрын

    1 ban was for for recovs and the other was for running a software that cant really do anything to D2 but is used for other games. First one was deserved but not cheating and 2nd was probably deserved aswell because it is technically against TOS but a lifetime ban for that is insane. Bungie also wouldnt send the belts if the world first had any reason to believe its cheated so the world firsts were obtained legit

  • @MrPatpuc

    @MrPatpuc

    Ай бұрын

    false information.

  • @syd6654

    @syd6654

    Ай бұрын

    Womp Womp don’t have cheats open when you launch an online game

  • @itsreapernecrosis2215

    @itsreapernecrosis2215

    Ай бұрын

    @MrAhds Yah every cheater always denies or plays it off like it was something else or they weren't cheating, until bungie lights their ass up. I know he got banned for using cheats for "another game" and having the software open. But like you said, perma ban seems alittle extreme for that if that's the case. You figured he'd fight them for just a temporary one or atleast being able to play a different account. But he didn't put up a fight at all. Personally I think he knew bungie would light his ass up with some other stuff they didn't announce cuz they were trying to keep it civil. 1 time it's a fluke. Twice is quite the coincidence. I've watched alot of stuff about cheaters and how they cheat. And this stuff reeks of it.

  • @StewardRuss
    @StewardRussАй бұрын

    One thing that really pissed me off is the dungeon keys, why do I have to buy a season pass and then as well a dungeon key?

  • @scp_049_the_soul_doctor

    @scp_049_the_soul_doctor

    Ай бұрын

    For real.. cant they include it in a dlc pre order for a future dlc and make the old dungeon keys free to everyone and also make the current dungeon key be unlockable by owning the season pass? Bungie is so greedy for this

  • @TheFirstCurse1

    @TheFirstCurse1

    Ай бұрын

    Because Bungie is the most anti-consumer company in all of gaming. They just want your money, and sadly so many of you will mindlessly give it to them after they've stolen half of your game.

  • @vortex_1911

    @vortex_1911

    Ай бұрын

    It’s the one huge thing I still despise because it didn’t use to be that way. At least Into The Light is amazing.

  • @designerpsycho9640

    @designerpsycho9640

    Ай бұрын

    My sibling and I used to split our deluxe purchases for dlcs and pay on one account until seasons and dungeons weren't available for both of us anymore. Edit our reason was it's a game we both played and we'd split the cost on on games we both wanted to play on our Playstations

  • @ime4rth434

    @ime4rth434

    29 күн бұрын

    And when i bought the game i owned it, but now i have to pay 20 bucks for each dungeon i already owned? Ridiculous..

  • @Shihai-sha
    @Shihai-shaАй бұрын

    Dont forget the infamous 7/29/2020 "Gahlran Cosplay" Incident (In all seriousness, epic video, brought back quite a few memories.)

  • @thunderchief7256

    @thunderchief7256

    Ай бұрын

    Tell me more

  • @Shihai-sha

    @Shihai-sha

    Ай бұрын

    @@thunderchief7256 A man, a plan, a cosplay, DCJ. Don't look it up or you'll see something you don't want to.

  • @kefnettheuseless7627

    @kefnettheuseless7627

    Ай бұрын

    That incident was wild. A national holiday for DCJ lol

  • @RiptidePhoenix

    @RiptidePhoenix

    Ай бұрын

    gahlr

  • @hue_lord_4208

    @hue_lord_4208

    Ай бұрын

    @@thunderchief7256 "DCJ" refers to the reddit sub r/destinycirclejerk and the famous "ghalran cosplay" was when a person took an image of their penis with an image of ghalran's face on their tip and posted it to the sub. The sub had to make some serious revisions to their rules after that, lmao. As a bonus, since you had to wait 6 days for an actual answer, in the sub r/destinyfashion somebody posted a shaxx cosplay of them fully nude on the toilet with nothing but a shaxx helmet on. I was actually there for that one and it was wild, lmao.

  • @SaigoNoGetsugaTenshou
    @SaigoNoGetsugaTenshou9 күн бұрын

    The XP Throttling thing never happened. They were testing the Well-Rested buff before it went live. We weren't being slowed as we played, we were being boosted up front.

  • @Zodiac.

    @Zodiac.

    11 сағат бұрын

    Sure pal. Why wouldn’t they come out and say that then

  • @thebapslaps
    @thebapslapsАй бұрын

    Fun Fact about the speedrunners being banned: there are quite a few speedrunners that actively promote cheats and or use them.

  • @TheShahkulu

    @TheShahkulu

    Ай бұрын

    Currently, the overwhelming majority of top 100 on speedrun leaderboards are net limiters.

  • @Shoegaze-

    @Shoegaze-

    Ай бұрын

    @@TheShahkuluwhich isn’t even remotely a bad thing if I’m being honest it just leads to more optimization, doesn’t take any skill out of the game, and is completely harmless. Best example I can think of is limiting motes in garden which makes it a bit easier and saves time which really adds up when you’re doing it dozens of times. I know people will probably disagree though because speenrunner bad! And cheating is cheating! Ringing on the other hand is horrible for the game and should lead to bans.

  • @Shoegaze-

    @Shoegaze-

    Ай бұрын

    comparing limiting in pve to aimbot and wallhacks in pvp😭😭. “Cheats”

  • @xartherthefaerian1519

    @xartherthefaerian1519

    Ай бұрын

    Speedrunning is not bad by any means, but glitch hunting is a thing, while abusing third party software is on a whole different plane of existence

  • @TheBlackOpsHawk
    @TheBlackOpsHawkАй бұрын

    The XP throttling made me quit the game from Curse of Osiris until Forsaken.

  • @TheFirstCurse1

    @TheFirstCurse1

    Ай бұрын

    I sincerely hope that you quit after Beyond Light. Or at least after Lightfall.

  • @mlgrocket
    @mlgrocketАй бұрын

    biggest drama for me? removing content you paid for under the pretense "sorry, file size too big", they could have made it all optional downloads, but nope, they decided it had to be completely deleted from the game. we're apparently sueing ubisoft for shutting down a dead game, but we do nothing to bungie when they do the same thing to a very much alive game? it doesn't make sense.

  • @theonlyLoneWolf_

    @theonlyLoneWolf_

    Ай бұрын

    Completely agree but it's apples to oranges. Even in places with incredibly strong consumer protection laws, it generally boils down to "Is game still playable?" If yes, nothing can be done. If no, you've got a long uphill fight to get restitution as no clear legislation leaves a lot of legal grey area that needs to be traversed to reach a positive outcome for gamers. Also, outcomes heavily depend on a corporations own country's consumer protection laws. Bungie being based in the US means they basically have a free ride to do whatever as US consumer protection laws aren't great. They can just tweak regional specific things where necessary to avoid breaking laws in other countries. Ubisoft being based in France/EU though is literally the golden goose egg of opportunities as EU has some of the strongest consumer protection laws around.

  • @TheFirstCurse1

    @TheFirstCurse1

    Ай бұрын

    Yep. It's literal theft and made Bungie one of the biggest evils in all of gaming.

  • @equakecs8119

    @equakecs8119

    Ай бұрын

    Funny thing is there are larger games, bungie just doesn't want to pay the PS and xbox fees for large updates and installs. The larger the updates the more they have to pay sony and Microsoft. I still think it's bullshit we lost old content with no discounts or free dlc. Bungie should be sued by the player base to make the new dlc free

  • @brandaohimself

    @brandaohimself

    Ай бұрын

    EULA

  • @mlgrocket

    @mlgrocket

    Ай бұрын

    @@brandaohimself so that ubisoft lawsuit will go nowhere then

  • @mmoVSmmo
    @mmoVSmmoАй бұрын

    Expecting the "Say No to Rage" story in this vid. But it had nuggets of info I completely forgot.

  • @delguin5447

    @delguin5447

    Ай бұрын

    Sadly, it just seems to be completely ignored most of the time.

  • @JPOG7TV

    @JPOG7TV

    Ай бұрын

    It’s because nobody gives a shit about him. His content was mid and even if he’s was somehow innocent, nobody wants to talk about him because his whipped simping fanbase will hunt you down for not defending him

  • @delguin5447

    @delguin5447

    Ай бұрын

    @@JPOG7TV You must be fun at parties.

  • @JohnJohn-bz1lq

    @JohnJohn-bz1lq

    Ай бұрын

    @@JPOG7TV bro are you OK? That man was probably one of the few that gave actual in-depth updates on the game and he was innocent It was proven all over Twitter I don’t like the guy has an ego problem but you shouldn’t go this hard for Destiny lmfao nobody really cares if you succeed or fail in this game

  • @JohnJohn-bz1lq

    @JohnJohn-bz1lq

    Ай бұрын

    @@delguin5447 because it’s old drama most of the people involved don’t even play the game anymore

  • @Zamperlikecheese
    @ZamperlikecheeseАй бұрын

    What's really funny about the destiny starter pack is that if they had just put it in the eververse with just the sparrow ship and ghost for 1500 silver no one would of batted an eye

  • @pixelomega3042
    @pixelomega3042Ай бұрын

    I know that it’s not the biggest deal here, but Salvatori being gone is a loss I think we’re gonna feel greatly with whatever come after TFS

  • @S3Cs4uN8

    @S3Cs4uN8

    Ай бұрын

    I'm honestly not sure it's going to be that huge of a deal as he wasn't the only person on Bungie's music team, just the biggest name of the bunch, and many of them have been around for ages at this point.

  • @rebcommando587

    @rebcommando587

    Ай бұрын

    Destiny 2 has that music I leave on mute

  • @pixelomega3042

    @pixelomega3042

    Ай бұрын

    @@rebcommando587 then you’re missing out on a large part of the experience

  • @pixelomega3042

    @pixelomega3042

    Ай бұрын

    @@S3Cs4uN8 I hope you’re right, but also he was the one that put pen to paper for most if not all of the major themes that we’ve seen across the game

  • @djnone8137

    @djnone8137

    Ай бұрын

    Pretty sure tfs is the last hurrah. Him being let go is an ode that all recordings have been finalized

  • @siphonedshisui5667
    @siphonedshisui5667Ай бұрын

    you didn't mention one of the worst scandal Bungie ever did to the players: The Destiny Content Vault, where Bungie made Destiny 2 "free" and deleted at least 1/3 of content for the players to never see again, despite having paid money for such content.

  • @nonsenseconfidence1850

    @nonsenseconfidence1850

    Ай бұрын

    exactly, I quit that game when bungie cowards stole my paid content, losers thieves, should be suied

  • @phelan8385

    @phelan8385

    Ай бұрын

    And then added the steaming pile of sh!t titled Beyond Light

  • @aaronball4700

    @aaronball4700

    Ай бұрын

    @@phelan8385The only reason to get beyond light was so you wouldn’t be gimped not having stasis in pvp, nowadays stasis seems ass.

  • @phelan8385

    @phelan8385

    Ай бұрын

    @@aaronball4700 well you needed it to have any up to date content. They removed so much and added so little it was pretty much essential

  • @TheFirstCurse1

    @TheFirstCurse1

    Ай бұрын

    That's what I expected when clicking on this video. All of Bungie's controversies as the worst developer in gaming.

  • @superblahman
    @superblahmanАй бұрын

    Speaking of Pay to win... remember when Chaperone had an ornament that extended the barrel and actually effected the range of the shotgun, giving it even more range?

  • @thealldayspecial

    @thealldayspecial

    Ай бұрын

    Panama Ravine, wasn't silver only and I think you could even get it from the Prismatic Matrix when that was still a thing, but yeah a rarer scenario where the ornament actually made a huge difference.

  • @asphyxxia

    @asphyxxia

    Ай бұрын

    That ornament was "fixed" 2 times already, last I checked it after most recent fix, it still increases range lol

  • @ForeverLaxx

    @ForeverLaxx

    Ай бұрын

    This happens a lot with many ornaments, especially those that change the weapon model drastically. Not only can you get a "less bulky" skin for your exotic, or one with cleaner sights, but you can also end up with one that extends/shrinks the barrel and impacts its effective range because the game calculates damage falloff from the end of the barrel instead of from a fixed point. Bungie cares more about cranking out these skins than they do maintaining balance. There's no way these were intentionally P2W. Bungie doesn't plan that far ahead.

  • @annamuller9457
    @annamuller9457Ай бұрын

    Thank you again dear shadow for your awesome content, i'm always excited when i see that a new vid of you is out, every single one is a masterpiece❤

  • @FortisT-T
    @FortisT-TАй бұрын

    Man you put so much effort into your videos thx. I love your content

  • @ShadowDestiny2

    @ShadowDestiny2

    Ай бұрын

    thanks!

  • @eldeliciosomagnifico6503
    @eldeliciosomagnifico6503Ай бұрын

    Couldn’t help but notice the situation where Bungie was under fire for treating their female employees like shit wasn’t brought up.

  • @JPOG7TV

    @JPOG7TV

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah he left out the IGN story of the horrible allegations of Bungie mistreating employees

  • @GhostRydr1172

    @GhostRydr1172

    Ай бұрын

    And then there's the recent layoffs. Economy and Sony reqs be damned, you have to be cesspool dwelling scum to layoff some of the vets that were removed that day, such as Michael Salvatori.

  • @chaskcryaotic1037

    @chaskcryaotic1037

    Ай бұрын

    From what ive gathered is the creator of this video is a bungie boot licker and white knights bungie as he sticks by their side on banning people who have been banned without actual proof and was banned on a guess or just because bungie felt to lazy to look into it more

  • @yellowcard8100

    @yellowcard8100

    Ай бұрын

    then why not you make a video about it?

  • @eldeliciosomagnifico6503

    @eldeliciosomagnifico6503

    Ай бұрын

    @@yellowcard8100 Brother, the title literally says “Biggest Scandals in Destiny history” and didn’t include arguably Bungie’s biggest scandal. It’s called pointing something out. I don’t need to make a video about it.

  • @IsfetSolaris
    @IsfetSolarisКүн бұрын

    Shocked that Hush wasn't mentioned here considering his channel was one of the biggest.

  • @gangon5331

    @gangon5331

    Күн бұрын

    Holy shit I completely forgot hush existed. What did he do again?

  • @kkangpae346
    @kkangpae346Ай бұрын

    the sunsetting gimmick reallly had me questioning. shortly after i didnt bother logging back in. didnt vault clean, glad i didnt, but still no real reason to come back as of yet..

  • @Art2D2

    @Art2D2

    18 күн бұрын

    They recently reversed Sunsetting and said they'll never do that again. So I'm back and playing with my favorite hard earned items. But it's really up to the person if they want to come back. I'm just here to finish the story I started years ago. Here to experience The Final Shape expansion, and then afterwards idk.

  • @iwillbe7214

    @iwillbe7214

    9 күн бұрын

    same came back in season of the deep and was too lazy to clean up the vault, happy to be able to play with midnight coup again.

  • @willard73
    @willard73Ай бұрын

    You forgot the Say No To Rage / Lonnie scandal it was juicy.

  • @JohnJohn-bz1lq

    @JohnJohn-bz1lq

    Ай бұрын

    That wasn’t juicy, bro that was a female lying and trying to destroy a man’s career

  • @S1ick865

    @S1ick865

    Ай бұрын

    it wasnt tho, it was a group of ppl who thought they were this super powerful person attacking a guy bc they was mad at him for being "weird" he did nothing to her at all, and you see anyone other then goth still streaming? nope goth was set before this he was always gonna be ok, but they took food out of that mans families mouths and ruinied his carrer i wasnt a fan of saynotorage but he built chjannel on his own and was doing welll and they didnt like that

  • @JohnJohn-bz1lq

    @JohnJohn-bz1lq

    Ай бұрын

    lol comment was deleted

  • @S1ick865

    @S1ick865

    Ай бұрын

    @@JohnJohn-bz1lq I didnt see it

  • @lubbyLB

    @lubbyLB

    Ай бұрын

    @@S1ick865 friend of yours? lol

  • @agoldenmuffin1944
    @agoldenmuffin1944Ай бұрын

    Very entertaining video, bringing back a lot of memories from the past. I would’ve loved to hear again about BombSquadKitten’s case. I remember wanting to join their clan, but then hearing they split up, to then hear further about all the SA on women they did

  • @torvasdh
    @torvasdhАй бұрын

    3:44 I know what happened is bad but that onocking part is hilarious lmao

  • @TheInfii
    @TheInfiiАй бұрын

    16:50 thought you had a healing nade huh? Happens to me all the damn time! 😂

  • @weirdeurasianboy8091

    @weirdeurasianboy8091

    Ай бұрын

    😠😠😠

  • @coltsfan354
    @coltsfan354Ай бұрын

    It's always wild to me when I see people at any point in the last few years say that the game is in a worse state than vanilla D2. People forget how incredibly bad the game was. Snipers and shottys in the heavy slot, 6 total subclass options with no customization whatsoever, fixed rolls on every gun, effectively no endgame, NO SPARROW FOR THE FIRST 15 HOURS OF THE GAME! I wouldn't be surprised if we get Destiny 3 in the next two years, but never forget how big of a miracle it is that the series managed to pull out of that big of a rut.

  • @gen8901
    @gen8901Ай бұрын

    Cya in a month ShadowDestiny2🫡

  • @ShadowDestiny2

    @ShadowDestiny2

    Ай бұрын

    I've posted 3x this month! :D

  • @meshman4236

    @meshman4236

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@ShadowDestiny2 interesting.....anyway see you next month

  • @ShadowDestiny2

    @ShadowDestiny2

    Ай бұрын

    I will post again this month

  • @gen8901

    @gen8901

    Ай бұрын

    @@ShadowDestiny2My bad I thought I was watching your main channel for the previous uploads haha. Cya a week or two then😂

  • @twistedgale

    @twistedgale

    Ай бұрын

    @@ShadowDestiny2no you won’t

  • @idlovetohaveabeerwith4354
    @idlovetohaveabeerwith435415 күн бұрын

    Great video! So much drama!

  • @keskeyy
    @keskeyy28 күн бұрын

    'Done and dusted, out of this world' is a reference to foodiechina and their very unique outro

  • @carlstephens4
    @carlstephens4Ай бұрын

    Wow I totally forgot about the xp throttle . And then the doubling

  • @XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX
    @XxHUNT3RN4T0RxXАй бұрын

    Lord Nazo seemed like the kind of guy who wanted to watch the world burn.

  • @lubbyLB

    @lubbyLB

    Ай бұрын

    Let's not feed his ego by making him seem like some anti-hero badass

  • @XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX

    @XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX

    Ай бұрын

    @@lubbyLB the line referring to what Alfred said in The Dark Knight didn’t mean people like that were cool anti-heroes. They are just evil pieces of shit at their core. Nazo fits that description.

  • @spencerhuckins8197
    @spencerhuckins8197Ай бұрын

    I have played destiny since the very first open beta for destiny 1 way back in 2014. I took a break between year one of D2 and Forsaken, but I did come back when Forsaken was anounced, and I caught up before it released. Destiny has been an absolute rollercoaster. Its wild to go back over all the BS and crazy stuff that has happened over the last decade because I remember all this stuff. I kept up with all of it the entire time. The only in game event that I missed was the spring one where arbalest was introduced. I played through every season, every pvp meta, every raid, almost every controversy. It has been an absolutely wild journey with so many ups and downs, but ultimatwly it has been a source of joy in my life. I treat it like an rpg now. I really like to immerse myself in the world, play my build like I really would if I was actually a guardian myself. There have always been ups and downs. The lows are LOW, but the highs are like nothing else in videogame history. The worst thing about it for me right now is the community itself honestly. Even after all the crap that happens behind the scenes and all the scandals and stuff, I find that the general player-base might be what really gets me to quit for good, if I ever do. I just have a hard time finding decent players who are generally more positive to interact with than negative. At the end of the day, I just want to rollplay a space wizard who slays alien gods with space magic and future weapons, and I dont want to get yelled at, or have slurs hurled at me, or have someone tell me to adjust my build, or adjust my fashion. I just wanna chill out and do raids and have a fun time. Why is that so hard nowadays in destiny?

  • @eliasmarx92
    @eliasmarx92Ай бұрын

    It was pritty interesting. Thx for the Video

  • @daxitron
    @daxitronАй бұрын

    The title could also be "Things that remind me WHY I quit Destiny, and why I don't regret it"

  • @joshuapatrick4887
    @joshuapatrick4887Ай бұрын

    I know another small controversy that happened was for the World's First clear of Prestige Leviathan. Redeem cleared it(As was the style at the time), but one of the members used the old Wardcliff Coil barricade glitch to essentially get infinite ammo, which lead to controversy. I think Bungie solved the issue by listing out all of the streams that cleared the raid closest to World's First and told players to make their own conclusion on who the winner was.

  • @SavvyMon4

    @SavvyMon4

    Ай бұрын

    If the bug was known that’s on Bungie to either disable the weapon or flat out state if using a glitch such as that would discredit a run

  • @joshuapatrick4887

    @joshuapatrick4887

    Ай бұрын

    @@SavvyMon4 As far as I recall, they didn't have the ability to disable exotics on the fly back then like they do now.

  • @novemberbravo6194
    @novemberbravo61946 күн бұрын

    Oh damn, I had no idea about the whole “Sunrising” thing! I can use my Hammerhead again!

  • @ShinigamiNoZycon
    @ShinigamiNoZyconАй бұрын

    I can’t wait to get my hands back on a subtle calamity

  • @MstrJediKyle
    @MstrJediKyleАй бұрын

    D2 vanilla launch was rough. It was so bad, I uninstalled and didn't come back until Shadowkeep.

  • @davidzrescalante503

    @davidzrescalante503

    Ай бұрын

    I didn't come back until crota was re-released. 9/10/2023

  • @DustiestBoar734

    @DustiestBoar734

    Ай бұрын

    not the best time to come back lol

  • @phelan8385

    @phelan8385

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@DustiestBoar734I played throughout Curse of Osiris and Warmind and it was not fun 😎

  • @cgpxae2119

    @cgpxae2119

    Ай бұрын

    Shadowkeep? Rough return

  • @torfaro9075
    @torfaro9075Ай бұрын

    it makes me sad about the microtransactions. especially the expansions. i got into Destiny 2 last weekend and absolutely loved it. until i hit the soft cap. i was about to buy an expansion and saw how expensive it was, then sadly uninstalled the game

  • @jaytheman6436

    @jaytheman6436

    Ай бұрын

    Did you get the chest from Shaxx?

  • @torfaro9075

    @torfaro9075

    Ай бұрын

    ​@jaytheman6436 yeah I did, I got a whole bunch of power level 1810 gear

  • @yamiangelous

    @yamiangelous

    Ай бұрын

    So your at the power cap being at 1810. Now here's the thing about the 'microtransactions' that people complain about. 1. You can usually find great deals on like humble bundle or sales that make it alot cheaper to get the expansions. 2. Alot of people blow the microtransactions for cosmetics out of proportions. The game is ftp once you buy it bam! You have it no sub fee no nothing....so how do they keep people employed? Not like there's a couple thousand players paying 15 bucks a month to play...all the money to keep the lights on and people paid is thru the store.

  • @smallss7197

    @smallss7197

    Ай бұрын

    I will say, the dlc are expensive but they all are like 5-10 hours of story content each. The cosmetics do cost money but you can either get lucky with bright engrams or wait for when they sale for bright dust. There is also still a bit of content for ftp players.

  • @WanderingRogue1

    @WanderingRogue1

    Ай бұрын

    ​@yamiangelous And that's just story. I got 1200 hours in the game and only played casually during forsaken and started for real mid witch queen, aka did not play before Forsaken.

  • @OutlawOrbit
    @OutlawOrbitАй бұрын

    The Baken Incident will forever be one of the funniest I've had the pleasure of being there for.

  • @thev1p3r
    @thev1p3r10 күн бұрын

    Bungie: "We issued out a couple bans. If you got banned, get fucked." Community: "Explain the reason for my ban." Bungie: "We decided there doesn't have to be a reason."

  • @SlyRocko
    @SlyRockoАй бұрын

    I sometimes wish that Bungie would be as open as the Warframe devs, but then I'm reminded of the pizza incident.

  • @JPOG7TV

    @JPOG7TV

    Ай бұрын

    You can’t be open these days as a game dev. Fans and communities are the most hostile they have ever been for gaming.

  • @Asgaardiangatekeeper

    @Asgaardiangatekeeper

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@JPOG7TVGaming companies have also been the most blatantly underhanded and anti consumer than they have ever been though. Bungie isn't squeaky clean by any stretch of imagination.

  • @ForeverLaxx

    @ForeverLaxx

    Ай бұрын

    @@JPOG7TV When you start catering to the mainstream, lowest common denominator while spitting on everyone along the way, that's what happens.

  • @primodragoneitaliano

    @primodragoneitaliano

    10 күн бұрын

    Unfortunatrl IIRC Rebb also got a stalking incidebt so alas even DE got hit by that. They still remain vastly more open than the overwhelming majority of studios around though, that's for sure.

  • @bennygerow
    @bennygerowАй бұрын

    If Lono being witch hunted and banned isn't on here it's not telling a massive scandal Bungie can't fully sweep under the rug. 12:36 the worst part of this was Bungie stated that they would not sunset guns and reissue them, which they immediately did. They also never acknowledged that sunsetting guns versus armor made no sense at all. There was no reason to ever sunset armor since newer armor would just objectively be better IF players grinded for new god rolls.

  • @ExpressoPie

    @ExpressoPie

    Ай бұрын

    Who’s lono?

  • @bennygerow

    @bennygerow

    Ай бұрын

    @@ExpressoPie he now goes by @reforgegaming and if you look back a couple years, he's got multiple vids of him going through the scandal. At first he was confused, then he felt terrible because he didn't know that he hurt people, then he started to see that it was all a coordinated effort to take him down. And yes, he showed the proof in great detail. And guess what the response was? Crickets. They already got what they wanted so suddenly nobody had an issue with him. Funny how that works when you're the top Destiny PVE streamer one day, and all of a sudden your accusers are all in the top ten for a while. Mind you, their stories not only changed, which he goes over, but nobody stood up for him and called it out. Everybody was against him because "believe all women".

  • @bennygerow

    @bennygerow

    Ай бұрын

    @@ExpressoPie @reforgegamimg

  • @Ahnock

    @Ahnock

    Ай бұрын

    armor sunsetting happened because of armor mods like charged with light and warmind cells, and they even stated later when deleting warmind cells from the game that the whole reason they made those systems was because they were only ever planned to be temporary, and thus would not be a constant factor in game balance. i dont agree with it, but thats the reason they sunset armor. we didnt used to have universal armor mods, you could slot seasonal mods in on armor from one season before and after and that was it.

  • @bennygerow

    @bennygerow

    Ай бұрын

    @@Ahnock no, I know that, but it's just not true that they had to sunset armor when they have the ability to deprecate items like the old mods (which I still have on the right page of my inventory).

  • @Exhalted1
    @Exhalted1Ай бұрын

    Baken slamming the desk thinking the incident was forgotten

  • @Doofunator
    @Doofunator20 күн бұрын

    What shaders are you running at 13:01?! Would love to know. Thanks!

  • @ShadowStorm8855
    @ShadowStorm8855Ай бұрын

    While the starter pack was rightfully removed, I lowkey wished that bungie would put the sparrow and ship in the eververse store. F1 sparrow is cool as heck as an F1 fan myself

  • @rebcommando587

    @rebcommando587

    Ай бұрын

    Hoverboard is the only thing you're gonna want

  • @ShadowStorm8855

    @ShadowStorm8855

    Ай бұрын

    ​@rebcommando587 After bungie fixed the infinite boost bug, the hoverboard kinda lost its flair for me.🤷🏻‍♂️ Unless they make an F1 themed overboard

  • @scrotumscratcher2474

    @scrotumscratcher2474

    Ай бұрын

    @@ShadowStorm8855bro you deadass can skip entire mechanics with the thing In GMs. That alone is worth it. Why do the race track in hyper net when you can just look to the right and hover over the gap

  • @weirdeurasianboy8091

    @weirdeurasianboy8091

    Ай бұрын

    😠😠😠

  • @ForeverLaxx

    @ForeverLaxx

    Ай бұрын

    @@rebcommando587 The forced cooldown that prevents you from jumping off (not to mention the fact you'll die while riding one if you fall far enough to take damage, unlike on a Sparrow) is what stops me from using it. Well, that and because it goes with zero of my transmogs.

  • @johnprice6271
    @johnprice6271Ай бұрын

    The lawsuit one was warranted. They more or less attacked both other KZreadrs and Bungie themselves all out of pettiness, and set the entire community into a hellfire.

  • @doktorsmiles2034

    @doktorsmiles2034

    Ай бұрын

    Imagine your doing something wrong, get rightfully punished and then try to ruin lifes of people who didnt do anything to you... But the money hes now owing should be in part payed to the creators who got messed with I dont know if they get any money, but it wouldnt only be fair. This dude is probably the biggest catsynonyme the community ever had. Cheaters are little kiddos with no balls, sure. But they do not try to come after your job and ruin your life. This dude crossed a line

  • @djrosette

    @djrosette

    26 күн бұрын

    Who was the guy cause I never heard of the person and why did the guy go after the Destiny community or other KZreadrs 🤔

  • @blee10988
    @blee1098811 күн бұрын

    The worst era of D2 is now. It has devolved into a never stop paying, search hard for the fun, season based mess.

  • @Darkness-508

    @Darkness-508

    6 күн бұрын

    Have you played final shape? It’s awesome

  • @Palayedeuhm
    @PalayedeuhmАй бұрын

    Thanks for the story time shadow

  • @ShadowDestiny2

    @ShadowDestiny2

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for listening

  • @akuma_saint
    @akuma_saintАй бұрын

    That second one is the one I will bring up whenever Bungie clams up. I get it, people get mad or don't agree with what they do with this game - people have the right to disagree and voice that disagreement but not like that. Never like that.

  • @MaestroEspada
    @MaestroEspadaАй бұрын

    To this day still believe 100% the Eukegan controversy was true. The timing of his videos talking about leaks and getting most if not everything right, adds up with the fact as soon got outed by Bungie all of those videos vanished suddenly after it. Had to be more than just coincidence

  • @spacecowboy421

    @spacecowboy421

    Ай бұрын

    Casually left out of the video was the picture of the release timeline for Destiny 2 from a summit and it was taken from where he was sitting.

  • @anotherkenlon
    @anotherkenlonАй бұрын

    DMG annihilating Baken is still one of the funniest things.

  • @itachi4alltime
    @itachi4alltimeАй бұрын

    You forgot the the whole DoS attacks after the crafting apocalypse that made the game unplayable for weeks

  • @AppleGuy256
    @AppleGuy256Ай бұрын

    Wait what, I was falsely banned and had to wait a month before getting unbanned. Where's my $45 of silver?

  • @WeaponsComplex

    @WeaponsComplex

    Ай бұрын

    Was it a constant weasel error code? Did it say BAN or RESTRICTED?

  • @AppleGuy256

    @AppleGuy256

    Ай бұрын

    @@WeaponsComplex It was a total permanent ban (Not So Fast!), Bungie got back a month later and said "your account had been inadvertently flagged as having tampered with the game client" whatever that means. No error codes or warnings I was just chilling in the tower then bam

  • @WeaponsComplex

    @WeaponsComplex

    Ай бұрын

    @@AppleGuy256 yeah that tends to happen to PC tagalongs and programs/cheats they don't close from other games. "If an application designed to read and modify the memory of other applications at runtime was detected targeting the Destiny 2 game client directly. This is, at minimum, a violation of Bungie's policies against runtime analysis. It is the responsibility of each player to understand what software is running on their device and how it interacts with other applications."

  • @ForeverLaxx

    @ForeverLaxx

    Ай бұрын

    @@AppleGuy256 You know exactly why you weren't compensated. You have to be a content creator or do Bungie's work for free to get any kind of positive interaction out of them.

  • @robertetchingham7337
    @robertetchingham7337Ай бұрын

    15:43 dude this is a straight up villain arc! He went scorched earth on Destiny 🤣🤣

  • @angryaustralian8909
    @angryaustralian8909Ай бұрын

    16:48 you thought I’d let that attempted heal nade slide.

  • @jonneiluhub6109
    @jonneiluhub6109Ай бұрын

    I still remember the divinity drama. My take on that fiasco was that sure, div might have been too strong, but saltagreppo had the wrong argument when he said he was bored of using it to get world’s first

  • @tarrabah5775

    @tarrabah5775

    Ай бұрын

    His Argument was that it was a must use in every Bossfight due to the linear Meta... Would be fine today with Rocket and gl

  • @makingacomment

    @makingacomment

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah the stupidity of his issue about divinity, was no one was forcing you to use that weapon. Make the game fun for yourself and use different strategies or play styles. It’s bs that the top 1% control everything for everyone else. No one else had an issue with it besides him and they followed through with his issue/fix.

  • @Bidniss.

    @Bidniss.

    Ай бұрын

    @@makingacomment Nah, it was an issue for everyone else too. Not only was Div the strongest debuff AND made a massive crit spot, it was also extremely boring to use. Now we actually get to think about what debuff to use since they all have tradeoffs... and the alternatives are much funner than knowing someone is going to have to just shoot div during dps. Your tether hunter, tractor cannon user or weaken provider can still have fun doing regular damage. Also the "just use other stuff lol" argument is completely invalid. Do you really expect people competing for a world's first title to not use the best thing available? If a pro basketball player is complaining about being bored in the finals, would you tell them to play blindfolded? Such a silly argument.

  • @makingacomment

    @makingacomment

    Ай бұрын

    @@Bidniss. The divinity was the same 30% global debuff as tether and tractor before the nerf so arguing it was the “Strongest Debuff” is a front faced half researched counter argument. Yeah it created a big crit cage. But that’s your thing dude if it was “too boring to use”. The only enemies it was actually beneficial that it made it an easier target was bosses like the Ghost of the Deep Final Boss, IR Yut and Atraks from Deep Stone Crypt. Every other single enemy in the game was big enough to use a tractor cannon or tether and have the same results. Sure you are making your team add more variables for consistent debuffs. At that point having to shoot tractor or having 2-3 Hunters with tether reapply a debuff every 20 seconds or a 8 seconds on tractor cannon is a laziness issue. Look it the set up for the strongest dps class in the game. Talking Titan with one to punch Syntho/Wormgod and tractor. Same concept. You have a decent amount of setup. But that’s the issue with people in this community. They all have their own stance on what is casual, broken or needs to be buffed. No one will ever be able to fully agree on anything. Going back to applying a debuff every 8-20 seconds between Hunter Tether and Tractor Cannon. You can argue that same point and say after you get use to the setup and how to consistently use it. “It’s too easy it needs a nerf 🤓😭” If you genuinely are playing that much and get bored or want everything tweaked you’re ruining it for the general community or casual player base it’s an elitist perspective problem. People want/need options. That partially is/isn’t the case now after the nerf. I’ll explain that in a bit. No one has a gun to your head forcing you to use that setup. Your argument about “if a pro basketball player is bored have him blindfold himself.” That just proved my argument. This isn’t a competition or a sport. It’s a video game. That counter argument doesn’t carry the fullest validity as you think. YOU KNOW WHATS GOOD AND WHAT ISN’T. IM IMAGINING YOU’VE PLAYED THE GAME LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT ELSE YOU CAN USE. You sit there and act like I’m telling you to forget everything you know and go full cave man and not play the game with guns or the way it was meant to be played. But making the exotic not an exotic and ruining that sense of the power fantasy and chase behind the weapon is what wasted how many of peoples time. Now I hope you realize just because it’s nerfed this whole conversation is MUTE. Because: The strongest debuff takes president in a given situation. What does this mean? If you apply a tether which is ALMOST always the case for boss dps phases for fireteam stacks. That tether will supersede that DIVINITY you use with it. Again you can boast that it’s too much setup and blindfolding you but that’s pathetic or that “you have to actually think about what debuff to use” is wild. 90% or more of fireteams you operate with have that setup even in raids/nightfalls etc. sure some Hunters don’t always run NightStalker in casual content for obvious reasons. So a lot of them running Golden Gun. But in GMs and Raids that’s majority of the cases hence why I said 90%. So to say “it’s too much setup!! or a handicap” is a lazy argument. You don’t see people as titan mains begging for nerfs of builds/setups to those highest dps classes saying “It’s too boring!” They just move to something else. Like solar bonk, strand or stasis and that’s it. Lastly you’ve literally backed what I’ve stated about hunters or tractor so…. To come back and go back on that you exemplified that yourself. So you’re open to the idea or running it and not having an issue. Partially assuming there.

  • @makingacomment

    @makingacomment

    Ай бұрын

    @@Bidniss. Last point. You said that it was boring standing there shooting a crit cage. When literally every boss in the you setup your buff debuff then stand still and do damage. Surprised you got bored of the bubble debuff shooting and not bored of standing still for 7 plus years and doing damage. Crazy. That whole pro basketball blindfold argument we aren’t running around. Sure to setup for dps or to go through mechanics. But that’s it, you have to do the thing to get to do the thing. You’re shooting free throws objectively.

  • @mojojojo993
    @mojojojo993Ай бұрын

    that pizza one's crazy. imagine paying $500,000 for a pizza.

  • @weirdeurasianboy8091

    @weirdeurasianboy8091

    Ай бұрын

    Venezuela probably sells them at that price 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @ProtoMario
    @ProtoMarioАй бұрын

    Baken was destroyed so hard he was deleted from the universe.

  • @TrippyTimesTwo
    @TrippyTimesTwoАй бұрын

    God I don’t miss the public event grinding days. D2 was really something back then. Shoutout to Origin Story for hauling ass in Crucible, Nightwatch for carrying me through Leviathan, and Merciless being top tier heavy DPS.

  • @doktorsmiles2034
    @doktorsmiles2034Ай бұрын

    Activision thought forsaken didnt meet expectations while it literally changed everything and made everything great Lightfall sold 1m+ copies and was 45% below expectation The people in charge need to get their crap together and reign in their expectations ffs. Greed kills everything. From friendships to love, our hobbys, the games we love and in the end hunanity in its entirity...

  • @grippygecko6843

    @grippygecko6843

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah. They overinflated their projections to benefit the share price.

  • @sindeviltrigger9268

    @sindeviltrigger9268

    Ай бұрын

    That SBI stench is what's ruining Destiny

  • @DisDatK9

    @DisDatK9

    Ай бұрын

    So, in the corporate leadership sphere they WANT to massively overproject success and strong returns. They will make their analysis staff use bloated data to put on a front that this release will be incredibly successful in order to drive up share prices and get investors and shareholders excited. They use this time to offload some shares and pocket a strong return. Its a Win-Win situation for them. Either the product fails and they make cuts on the ground floor where it doesn't affect their bottom line OR it's a strong success and they get praise and a good bonus at the end of the FY. Either way, they make a good amount of cash up front, with no downsides and only the potential to make more money. That's corporate leadership right there, and why they will never make conservative sales estimates. The top of the ladder isn't a group of leaders, it's a bunch of individuals trying to make as much money for themselves as humanly possible.

  • @xperr7
    @xperr7Ай бұрын

    Going to be honest, regarding the Baken one, he honestly was not that good without cheats. Played against him prior to the ban where my friends and I (1 average, 2 above average players) just ran over him using Rat King on Widows Court

  • @majora919

    @majora919

    Ай бұрын

    He still plays the game to this day

  • @ButteLicher

    @ButteLicher

    Ай бұрын

    yeah i faced off against him one day in a duo with elon musk and baken couldn't even touch us lmao. we fucked his girlfriend afterwards too.

  • @PubRunner
    @PubRunnerАй бұрын

    Thanks for the interesting video

  • @senken5265
    @senken52657 күн бұрын

    And you have me, who is still permanently banned since the last 2 weeks, for no reason at all. I've obviously contested my ban but nothing happened...

  • @CronusChronicles
    @CronusChroniclesАй бұрын

    My Immortal SMG anti-recoil video didnt make the list? Sadness

  • @bewarned8236

    @bewarned8236

    Ай бұрын

    because youre not special. Everyone and their mothers use it.

  • @CronusChronicles

    @CronusChronicles

    Ай бұрын

    @@bewarned8236 Pretty sure I AM special. Like, super special. A wonderful and unique snowflake.....just like every one else.....so very special

  • @Sheikah_Architect
    @Sheikah_ArchitectАй бұрын

    I'm not surprised Bungie wrongly banned people here. Back when they made Halo Reach, they had safe zones in Firefight that players could use to hide from enemies, then they later reset the ranks of people suspected of using the zones they put in the game. Very weird type of ego trip there. Seems they still haven't changed

  • @garfieldlasagna8280
    @garfieldlasagna8280Ай бұрын

    For me bringing back the sunset weapons is the biggest rob because i deleted everything knowing they wont have any future. 😢

  • @carsenvillegas7259
    @carsenvillegas7259Ай бұрын

    Great video

  • @TheShahkulu
    @TheShahkuluАй бұрын

    Honestly, you could make a part 2 and 3 to this video with the amount of controversies in D2, e.g. the multiple cases of SA and inappropriate contact with minors perpetuated by community members which even promoted Bungie to include a statement in the TWAB, Esoterickk cheating on and then gaslighting his wife for some e-girl, the disgusting schnell incident that came up recently.

  • @furen4962
    @furen4962Ай бұрын

    Honestly, biggest one was the SNTR/Lono drama. Bunch of false allegations, Chris Barrett and his wife being bitches, loads of content creators getting in on it and making up stuff. It was an is still an insane topic to talk about

  • @yungcrisisactor

    @yungcrisisactor

    Ай бұрын

    That whole situation was insane

  • @henryyoho1742

    @henryyoho1742

    Ай бұрын

    SNTR is a disgusting person who does not have a place in the destiny community. He openly admitted in his apology to sexual assault and his ban/the drama surrounding him was 100% justified.

  • @horizontide568

    @horizontide568

    Ай бұрын

    I decided to go see how his channel was doing since you reminded me of that whole situation. His SNTR channel doesn't exist and he's rebranded. His new YT channel isn't doing very well though he might still be streaming. Idk I don't use Twitch anymore and haven't for a long time. That was a messy situation. It sounds like he flirted with a couple of girls from the Destiny community and they decided to ruin his career over it. A little bit of truth mixed with a whole lot of lies seems to be how that unfolded.

  • @vernonhowell4070

    @vernonhowell4070

    Ай бұрын

    That scumbag Paul Tassi got his start because of Lono and he threw him under the bus with everyone else when Barrets wife was the one being a whore in his DMs. Snaps or whatever she called herself had well known mental issues and they believed her even crazier.

  • @laggers54

    @laggers54

    Ай бұрын

    Hahaha, I think he was right to avoid it. He would have been completely ostracised if he mentioned that serval prominent destiny figures made false claims.

  • @kalomandastra
    @kalomandastra27 күн бұрын

    Funny thing, that ban wave where d2 gunsmith guy got banned, I also got banned and then later unbanned. They said they were going to reach out to everyone affected, but they never did... They also denied all of my appeals, but unbanned me anyway. I'm still upset about it almost two years later.

  • @LordHollow
    @LordHollowАй бұрын

    I left on ir around Osiris. Good to see I didn't miss anything.

  • @delguin5447
    @delguin5447Ай бұрын

    You know, one of the biggest false bans that never gets mentioned is what happened to Say no to rage ( a youtuber who got falsely accused of multiple different things and despite having proof he didnt actually do what he was accused of ) was developer banned ( and he literally cant appeal as the ban due to the appeal system not recognizing the ban ). It never gets mentioned despite it being pretty blatantly a false ban.

  • @henryyoho1742

    @henryyoho1742

    Ай бұрын

    He was not falsely accused, he had SEVERAL women accuse him of sexual assault/harassment and was punished by bungie accordingly. People like him don’t belong In this community.

  • @loquek

    @loquek

    Ай бұрын

    I dunno about that, his apology video is still up somewhere and he still doing his content in his unique way that really isn't for me or many people. honestly I think the man needs some help (don't we all).

  • @delguin5447

    @delguin5447

    Ай бұрын

    @@loquek What?

  • @loquek

    @loquek

    Ай бұрын

    @@delguin5447 He apologised for inappropriate behaviour towards women at a conference

  • @loquek

    @loquek

    Ай бұрын

    @@delguin5447 go look up SayNoToRage "An Apology" Video (Re-upload) if you want to see him admit and apologise to inappropriate behaviour...

  • @cryptopsyrin4425
    @cryptopsyrin4425Ай бұрын

    "Bungies anti-cheat is 99.9% effective" he says in the same video where he shows complaints of cheaters running wild for months

  • @kalem6298
    @kalem629813 күн бұрын

    I remember getting my prosecutor, revoked, recluse, and grinding for them all. And then it got sunset I think the next season, and then I came back a year or two later and it turns out it’s back and I had trouble trying to get them back. It was really disheartening when I’ve played for the last 10 years with only a real break from between 2020- to late 2022.

  • @EnergiserX
    @EnergiserXАй бұрын

    4:34 - my 15 minutes of 'Internet Fame'. Love randomly coming across it every now and then :) It was a fun time trying to figure out what was happening. Massively anxiety inducing posting that massive wall of text on reddit - had no idea what was going to come of the whole thing.

  • @dixon137
    @dixon137Ай бұрын

    that lono shit rubbed me the wrong way

  • @SuperSigite

    @SuperSigite

    Ай бұрын

    He didn’t do anything wrong either

  • @jesseritchie9282

    @jesseritchie9282

    Ай бұрын

    Not to mention the lady was with a Bungie employee who was in the management department

  • @SuperSigite

    @SuperSigite

    Ай бұрын

    @@jesseritchie9282 Christopher Barrett. Sarah Daniels has always been a scummy person, she screams equality but body shames men all the time

  • @MrPatpuc

    @MrPatpuc

    Ай бұрын

    I remember you would be absolutely flamed on twitter/reddit for defending him at all.

  • @mackncheese1683

    @mackncheese1683

    Ай бұрын

    I used to follow him and it was a very unfortunate situation. Only stopped watching for his recent astronomically bad takes.

  • @NathanStin
    @NathanStinАй бұрын

    Sending a pizza to the CM is a veiled threat and you downplay it like crazy. They are showing him they know where he lives.

  • @xbotLife

    @xbotLife

    Ай бұрын

    Not a big deal

  • @tgr8576

    @tgr8576

    Ай бұрын

    @@xbotLifenot a big deal that they know where he lives?

  • @channelhasbeensuspended3986

    @channelhasbeensuspended3986

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@tgr8576 and that they're not afraid to send something to said address? Yeah, totally "not a big deal"

  • @NathanStin

    @NathanStin

    Ай бұрын

    @@xbotLife It is though. Gamers are no stranger to doxxing, swatting, death threats etc because a video game changed something they dislike.

  • @LauraLovesHugs

    @LauraLovesHugs

    Ай бұрын

    @@xbotLife that is absolutely meant as a threat

  • @VagrantSoulZ
    @VagrantSoulZ5 күн бұрын

    "Nobody knew this at the time..." Oh we knew. LOL

  • @koriuk5032
    @koriuk5032Ай бұрын

    bungie having no way to contact youtube... poetic justice

  • @serballista
    @serballistaАй бұрын

    Bungie: You did bad thing, banned! Banned Player: No I didn't? Please explain & prove it. Bungie: No Community: Wow Bungie, you guys are great! Good job!

  • @JPOG7TV

    @JPOG7TV

    Ай бұрын

    Exceptions are not the rule

  • @djenjoi6436
    @djenjoi6436Ай бұрын

    i can relate to the yter beeing falsely banned, my first d2 acc got banned for beeing in a strike with a cheater (i was afk so i didnt even know) appealed and denied (1252 hours gone) made a 2nd acc saw a cheater madly flying around in pvp, reported him, I got banned ig for that cuz theres no other reason, appealed and denied again (another 1450 hours gone) im on my third fucking acc now and a lil over hundred hours in, its js so painful to get banned for doing nothing js to appeal and getting denied by a fking bot ig so i fr lost 2702 hours of my life and multiple hundred euros js bc other ppl were cheating gg bungie EDIT nvm i cant relate to him since apparently he did cheat, i did never nor do i nor will i ever ppl who cheat have accomplished nothing in life

  • @heramaaroricon4738

    @heramaaroricon4738

    Ай бұрын

    Your experiences must be rare exceptions, because the last time I did see a cheater was when Fallout Plays posted his Trials cheater video in 2018(?)

  • @mggaming968

    @mggaming968

    Ай бұрын

    i do not trust the anti cheat detection as two of my friends got banned over the years, one of which hadn't set foot into crucible in 3 years at that point and quite frankly, was literally just "a guy" in terms of PVE accomplishments, barely raided. The other was an unironic god in PVE and PVE with an unreal level of game knowledge. Managed to coach me and several clanmates to getting our first Lighthouse runs and flawless raids. Not carried by him. His coaching alone was enough for that. So yeah. I am inclined to believe ppl when they get banned and claim they didn't cheat

  • @bound882

    @bound882

    Ай бұрын

    They have a weird anti cheat then wtf? I’ve played 2 cheaters ever in crucible(literally flying around with aimbot) and never been banned. Reported them and even stayed the whole match. Yet like you said there’s people who get banned by matching against a cheater

  • @nappuru
    @nappuruАй бұрын

    19:58 glad someone spoke about this, so many talented players and editors screwed over. real ones knew g1 wasnt all that when the best members of the prior team were missing. SoaR, Exile, Solve and Revere bled passion, teams have always been small appealing to a minority, but man.. it was so fun.

  • @xxenthusedgames1540
    @xxenthusedgames1540Ай бұрын

    Strike specific loot is something that should have never been removed. It's crazy that we're like 7 years in and we still haven't gotten that

  • @DenethorDurrandir
    @DenethorDurrandirАй бұрын

    Bungle: "We double-triple review our bans" Also Bungle: "Oops, guess we accidentally banned all speedrunners, tee-hee"

  • @jesseritchie9282
    @jesseritchie9282Ай бұрын

    Lono definitely was screwed

  • @yungcrisisactor

    @yungcrisisactor

    Ай бұрын

    Amen 🙌

  • @thephoenixlord2355
    @thephoenixlord2355Ай бұрын

    I was one of the people that got randomly ban. No reason given and I tried to reach out to content creators to get some help and I was just left in the dark after sending in a ticket and getting no response for well over 2 months before finally being unbanned and given about $50 worth of silver. It was such a spit in the face, ever since then my mood for destiny has died down to similar levels as to when I stopped playing back in Shadowkeep

  • @l.h.4495
    @l.h.4495Ай бұрын

    It is so interesting to think back to the start of D2. Compared to the game we have now it straight up sucked, but still survived. Kind of puts all the other drama about the state of the game into perspective.

  • @jyapp4489
    @jyapp4489Ай бұрын

    The DMG Pizza incident made me *livid*. Dude already has to deal with lots of BS from the community, and then the Pizza incident happened. I still follow him on LinkedIn because he just seems like a cool dude, but man do I feel freaking awful for him and his family.

  • @missionredsea2261
    @missionredsea2261Ай бұрын

    I personally think that Destiny 3 will be the next content after The Final Shape, but I'm finished after The Final Shape. Only sticking around because I'm invested in the story, but the company and game, with the content sunsetting, predatory microtransactions, and ignoring the player base has soured me completely on Bungie. Sigh, I miss the Red War. What an amazing start to a game...

  • @leonseuropeanislandadventu7398

    @leonseuropeanislandadventu7398

    Ай бұрын

    Destiny 3 isn't happening.

  • @DragonShinobi

    @DragonShinobi

    Ай бұрын

    @@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398 Destiny 3 is all but confirmed at this point. there's no way bungie would give up their biggest cash cow. That's like saying Rockstar is going to take out shark cards in GTA6.

  • @ivankyselov2030

    @ivankyselov2030

    Ай бұрын

    There will be no D3, devs said that...

  • @Alckee6904

    @Alckee6904

    Ай бұрын

    @@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398 leaks from trusted sources for the past half decade say otherwise. You're mooore then welcome to prove said leakers like liz wrong. Go ahead

  • @Alckee6904

    @Alckee6904

    Ай бұрын

    @@ivankyselov2030 leaks froom trusted sources said otherwise

  • @StefanKaiten
    @StefanKaitenАй бұрын

    Sad there is no Indica footnote, that shit was WILD

  • @seanmcclure
    @seanmcclureАй бұрын

    The entire sunset debacle was frustrating.

  • @Kyubii01
    @Kyubii01Ай бұрын

    Destiny’s whole existence is a controversy

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