I'd love to pull one apart for science. It seems like it's picking up all sorts of other vibrations as well as all the thin, double noting effects from being far too close to the strings. I bet it could be made to sound amazing in neck position, lowered down, and decoupled from body vibrations as best as possible.

@drumandbassdre1509

3 жыл бұрын

An Axe From the Grave on 60CycleHum’s guitar 🤯👀 a collab made in heaven right there lolol

@ScottyBrockway

3 жыл бұрын

They'll sound way better wax potted, but the coil bobbins are very low temp plastic so dunno if they would survive.

@The00Raven00Effect

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve had the pleasure to play a family member’s 50s Harmony Stratotone with a gold foil pickup in the neck. For a “catalogue” guitar, man does that pickup sound awesome. Definitely one of my favourite sounds.

@russellzauner

3 жыл бұрын

0:00 ahhh another human of elegant taste in sympathetic regeneration - I've often wondered what would happen if someone came up with a literal blend knob for microphonics... perhaps dynamic coupling? put a mute not on the pickup or electronics but on the trampoline-y pickguard to damp out/stabilize transducers mounted not to the body but to the plastics (or somehow get a tuned mass on there - haven't really considered how to adjust a tuned mass on the fly but this video and your comment sparked a couple new-ish application ideas) and now that we're some minutes into it, wow. This thing is really open to the universe *gets out Makita drill motor with the trem pick bit* Okay, I'm hitting the reply button at 11:10, want to watch the rest of this and dream about things that don't exist yet some more

@russellzauner

3 жыл бұрын

@@ScottyBrockway try thermoplastic to settle them down - when it cools it resembles milk jug type plastic and it can be reworked if you get it up to the temp of a cup of coffee, like 160°F-ish. I love that stuff - people also need to know about Sugru, which is a silicone putty that hardens into legit rubber and cures overnight to full firmness - it's great for making bumpers or feet for stuff when you've lost one (like my Katana Air is missing a couple of the rubber feet and it works great for that and also stopped the one cat that keeps chewing through phone charger cords near "the head") but since it contains volatile compounds when it is fresh, don't use it near anything with a nice finish on it (like if you wanted to put a custom silicone rubber bumper on your guitar stand) until it's fully outgassed (several days), and I would put something between it and anything I really cared about, just like any other non cork or felt cushion. But the low-temp thermoplastic is prototyping GOLD and once I found it (and it's cheap too) I was suddenly fixing all sorts of stuff - a closet hanger bar kept slipping out because it was too short and I hammered a nail in, leaving a short bit out, then formed the hand moldable plastic around it, anything that doesn't get hotter than a cup of coffee is fair game and in a solid chunk it's actually really tough and fairly hard, for what it is. It's more like a super hard wax than anything, which is what struck me to suggest it. look for "hand formable thermoplastic" on Amazon, Adafruit, any of the maker sites...I'm not trying to promote any brand, just share helpful tools I've learned about that some people may have not seen/encountered or used before. I was using it at work to make a fake wrist to test smartwatches under mechanical motion, sitting in the cafeteria and getting bowls of hot water from the tea spigot, and molding two piece mandrels to hook to stepper motors to flick whatever the DUT was, it worked great until some idiot tried to drill it so they could stick a bolt through it - you have to mold that into it lol they came and got me when they got a drill bit stuck in BOTH sides, hashtag truestorynobodyaskedfor :-)

"I just wanted to test it out so I [did exponentially more work than cutting the pickguard]" Never change, Ryan

@OldPeepaw

3 жыл бұрын

rip

@grahamflorida5942

3 жыл бұрын

literally half of my wiring projects.

@calinguga

3 жыл бұрын

more reversible work though

@kazkylheku1221

Жыл бұрын

Popping off a neck to shim the angle with some paper, and raising the bridge saddles is hardly anything.

I think I am in the minority here, but I really like the sound of it! It has a trashy, 60s, The Sonics vibe. Throw that turd into a Silvertone Twin Twelve and holy crap you are in garage rock heaven!

@raf.raf.

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it has character. I like it, too

@Agent36

3 жыл бұрын

Made me think of the Byrds.

@generalawareness101

3 жыл бұрын

On its own I love it, but as soon as I hear the other two pups no. I bet if it were in the neck position that PUP would smash them all.

@markrenfro6152

3 жыл бұрын

For one its not a vintage o ne, i believe. It is nit the sound of the dearmond gold foils, for sure. It sounds crappy i agree, but dont know the maker. Ive put pickups in many times and almost sounds like you crossed a wrong wire.

@generalawareness101

3 жыл бұрын

@@heavyjacktv I do not get why people are so hung up on what they gig with. I mean I have watched a lot of vids and they say they wouldn't gig with it as people expect the name brands up on stage but ffs, why? I don't give two shits what the audience expects me to have as long as it sounds good, and in reality they don't give two shits either as long as they are entertained.

I think your trem springs are functioning as a reverb. The extreme microphonic nature of the pickup is bringing out those reverberations. cool stuff.

@TheCollector1987

Ай бұрын

omg I think you're right. that's hilarious I think that's exactly what it is man

It really reminds of a Rickenbacker 12 string, like something off a Byrds album. Seeing as this is a 6 string, that's pretty wild.

@zipzip8239

3 жыл бұрын

yea i thought of "turn turn" right away.

@jrich5895

3 жыл бұрын

I thought it sounded like a 12 string guitar too.

@mattheweastel129

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thought too

@toddmenhinick6157

3 жыл бұрын

This was my thought exactly. Ryan accidentally wrote four Laurel Canyon songs over the course of this video.

@paint3d

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, I think you need a green tambourine.

Won't lie, I dig the sound.

Reminds me of the guitar sound in the beginning of Turn, Turn, Turn.

@ionobelisk

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it has a sort of 12 string jangle

@DavidHBurkart

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. Exactly

@bernarddoherty2303

3 жыл бұрын

Such a good call

@pyratoothNL

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts too, very Byrds 60s radio sound.

It sounds like that because of how you installed it. I worked as a luthier both repairing and building guitars for almost a decade. If a pickup gets too close to the strings the magnetic ability of the pickup is diminished once it gets too close. Also the way you have the pickup on top of the pick guard instead of inside is why its amplifying the microphone qualities more. Essentially its user error.

@enparticular

3 жыл бұрын

i think he also has to set up the amp for the pickup, reducing treble and adding bass as well.

@getdownmakelove647

3 жыл бұрын

I mean... I'm no luthier by any means. I do work on my own guitars though. Obviously, so does this guy. I was baffled the moment he showed us how close the pickup is to the strings, while saying he just wanted to hear what it sounds like. For real dude? I can't even.

@rindred

3 жыл бұрын

Proof of concept for this would be to take the pickguard off and mount it directly to the body so Ryan doesn't have to cut anything up. A couple of extra holes in the routing is less a big deal since it'll get covered up in the end.

@joseislanio8910

3 жыл бұрын

@@rindred or just buy any cheap pickguard.

@meadish

3 жыл бұрын

I was also thinking it looked extremely close to the strings, but I don't know if the sound is a direct result of that or not.

Sounds like a 12 string...also very thin and wirey, but mostly sounds like a 12string Rickenbacker from the 60's (like on the song "Turn! Turn! Turn!" by The Byrds. Really jangly as well.

@nedim_guitar

3 жыл бұрын

12 string is exactly what I thought as soon as he started playing.

This could become your signature sound

“WIGGLE STICK!!” cracked me up 😆

Honestly, that sounds awesome as a sort of secret weapon/studio guitar. That would totally nail some vintage, lo-fi sounds. It even has a 12-string like sound to it, I love this!

Gold foil pickups actually can be so many different pickups that it’s almost as if they need to be categorized differently. But something is going on with that setup. Not normal to me.

@101Volts

2 жыл бұрын

This one might be a Teisco with very little wire, others are supposed to be DeArmonds in the 8k - 10k range, and I've even seen Kay got on the bandwagon with a variant of their "Pancake" pickup, which is somewhere in the 5k - 6k range with AWG 43. That last one shouldn't differ much from actual Pancake pups, except for how the magnetic field is not covered. I'm not sure you can really count it as a true "gold foil," but that one variant does exist.

That sounds great. It's like... super bright and compressed in a good way.

100k volume pot and 500k tone on most gold foil setups I’ve seen. That may be some of it. Maybe also wax dip it.

@AldeanLeger

3 жыл бұрын

+1 for wax dipping

@Mechagnostic

3 жыл бұрын

+1 for pot ratings.

@xxxFarr3llxxx

3 жыл бұрын

+1 for both

@robgoc100

3 жыл бұрын

These are the values of the pots on my Kimberly (Teisco) and Spectrum and I'm pretty sure they are also run in series or some goofy wiring variable. When I have multiple pups engaged they get super beefy while retaining a bit of the microphonic resonance.

dude the overdrive sound it's AWESOME. it will probably cut the mix like crazy.

I love the way it sounds. It's so unique.

Goldfoil owner and you've inspired me to pull the old harmony out of the case after work. That's the benchmark of a good reviewer: the ability to let someone know they'll love something they hated. Some of the problem comes from being too close to the strings, but 90% of it is just their vibe and you showcase it well.

@gonzoengineering4894

3 жыл бұрын

Shot in the dark bid: 80 bucks.

Hey Ryan, these have rubber magnets like the ones in the old kitchen cabinet doors...no foolin'. sometimes they can deteriorate,maybe check that. party on dude.

Ryan, you mean something is right with that pickup! That sounds awesome!

Its surreal to see ryans playing evolve and change throughout the years. I took a short hiatus from 60ch and its super cool to see ryan with a new arsenal of licks! I personally think it sounds super but ive played guitars with legit gold foils in them and this sounds pretty strange in comparison

@YourWifesBoyfriend

3 жыл бұрын

Playing the same clumsy pentatonic scale year after year isn't evolution

@che2335

3 жыл бұрын

Its out of phase i think

"It's not a phase" - Ryan Burke, 2021

From now on, whenever you suspect that someone is a 60CH fan, you should go up to them and "Wiggle stick, wiggle stick, wiggle stick." And then they would respond likewise. Then you'd both continue on with your day.

@budgetgearguru4211

3 жыл бұрын

bring it on. I am waiting.

@YourWifesBoyfriend

3 жыл бұрын

Why would you talk like Mark Agnesi to a 60 cycle bum fan?

I guess I'm biased, 'cause I've been using funky 1960s Japanese guitars all my life, and I can get great sounds out of them. You can blame Jack White for making me obsessed with cheap vintage guitars, and I also love garage rock.

For starters, gold foils are really low output. I wouldn’t mix them with other types of pickups because they aren’t going to blend well. They are microphonic. It’s also FAR too close to the strings.

@AZCobraman

2 жыл бұрын

They also aren't at their best in the bridge position. Neck and middle are where they shine.

@alainbrisebois8334

2 жыл бұрын

@@AZCobraman I herd them on a Jupeter h49. It was amazing. it's a semi holow guitar. With a litle dirt and slap back, that's the sound I was looking for.

@AZCobraman

2 жыл бұрын

I have a pair of 'em in a semi-hollow Tele-style I built.

@jeremypoythress4995

2 жыл бұрын

It Depends on the guitar your trying to put them in. They work good on hollow body guitars and thinlines. if your going to mix pickups put the gold foil in the neck position bc the bridge pickup is always wound a little bit hotter.i put a rowe gold foil neck pup in my squire j mascis jazzmaster and added 1meg resistors to the pots.sounds just like a vintage jazzmaster now.i can get country, jazz,and surf rock tones through the 3 way toggle switch alone with no effects.

@jeremypoythress4995

2 жыл бұрын

@Reid Jamesyour right more than subjective.wish I did have a harmony bobcat. I had a 2015 j mascis jazzmaster i added 1 meg resistors to the pots and installed a 63 rowe goldfoil in the neck position. It had 2 hum canceling positions went from jazz, country blues,and jazz in the flip of a 3 way switch.still have the electronics but i smashed the body.

I might be the minority, but I REALLY like the “overly bright” jangle sound it gives off....I want to put one in my Squier Jaguar...am I crazy? Maybe similar to how Robert Smith got accustomed to the sound of one of the pickups from his first cheap dime store guitar so he put it in his first “real” guitar. P.S How do I make you an offer?

This video cracks me up! I kind of like the funky sound of the pick up! I could see a punk or funk guitarist using this on a record. Great video man. Very entertaining!

"I've got a wigglestick momma!"- Reverend Horton Heat "Wiggle Stick"

The tone reminds me a bit of Turn Turn Turn by the Byrds.

This is weird timing lol. I’ve been searching into Gold Foils like crazy the past few days and now you come out with basically the demo I’ve been looking for.

@kmatax9237

3 жыл бұрын

Search victory gold foil pickups, on youtube. there's a cool demo of a guy with an offset guitar and they're not too expensive on reverb compared to lollars or vintage ones

@Dr_Satan

3 жыл бұрын

They sell repros on Guitarfetish. No, they don't sound like old ones. I imagine they actually sound good instead.

@kmatax9237

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dr_Satan i have all 3 versions from guitarfetish, single coils, p90s and humbuckers in a xaviere guitar. theyre NOT repros. i have the victory goldfoils and the real teisco in cooder guitars as well as the more common version with the screws in center. they all sound a lil different but the guitarfetish stuff isnt even made like a real goldfoil with the rubberized magnets. for the money, i recommend getting one victory and putting it in neck position

Genuine lol during the fuzz demo, particularly the "dive bomb":)

It sounds like an authentic 60s mail-order guitar! I love it :-)

It gives me great joy to see Ryan experiment. He is 100% that kid who came to school and told you about how he velcro'ed a Full Shred to his dad's vintage J45 to see what happened when when he wired it to the family cat. "The shreaks had a clarity in the upper register." "...Of the cat or the guitar?" "Yes. I'm trying PAFs tonight."

Weird. I need to research more. Thanks for the excellent video. 👏🏻

That's a unique sound. Definitely works for what it does.

I lived that sound! Not for everybody, but wow, so cool

Different style gold-foils have different construction, different sounds, and can be very affected by their poriximity to the strings. I have an "s grille" from a 60s harmony that sounds great, in a trashy kind of way. It has way more low-end than yours does, for sure. Anyway, this was very interesting. I did like how it sounded with the fuzz...lol.

Well, on the UPSIDE - it has turned your trusty old Strat into a very interesting sounding PERCUSSION instrument! 😄

"WIGGLE STICK!" Sounds like it'd make a really fun mic for mostly instrumental songs on a boost pedal. Maybe a song called Wiggle Stick.

@russellzauner

3 жыл бұрын

I would patent it as an effects circuit called the wang jangler

@charlesrense5199

3 жыл бұрын

Allow me to introduce you to my reverend. His name is Horton Heat.

@shkibby1

3 жыл бұрын

@@charlesrense5199 the more songs with the name, the more we annoy the haters.

@mattutt2888

3 жыл бұрын

Reverend Horton Heat - Wiggle Stick - KZread www.youtube.com › watch

Could it be that Gold Foils, specifically old ones, were mounted directly to the body rather than to a pick guard with a hollow space underneath? Just a theory. 🤔

@Mechagnostic

3 жыл бұрын

It sounds like its mounted to a drum head, so yeah I think you are onto something. .

I redid a really old Harmony for a friend ( had to be an early 60s . Was really thin body and have never seen another like it ). It was really beat up but the electronics were both intact and working so I gave it an 80s van Halen style paint job and set the guitar up . But the pick ups in it were very microphonic . With some effects it sounded like a bad ground but then other effects made it one of the most beautiful tones ever .

Considering how little use my strat bridge pickup gets as it is, this has a super unique sound I would totally use, I dig it.

that pickup has jangle pop in its heart

It was giving me kind of a 60s/The Byrds vibe at the beginning (4:40). Then you got silly with the pedals. 😋 It sounds like it's amplifying the trem spring cavity to make its own spring reverb. 😁 See if damping those springs makes it sound more normal. EDIT: It just hit me that it kind of sounds like Silverchair - Tomorrow at the beginning too.

Actually, the more I listen to it, I think it sounds like it is *mostly* just acting as a microphone, and perhaps not at all as a magnetic transducer. How that could happen, I don't know, but that's what I'm hearing.

@NatureTable

3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly how they work.

@darwinsaye

3 жыл бұрын

@@NatureTable What I mean is that it doesn't sound like a pickup that has gone microphonic due to loose windings, in which case it still also sends a voltage signal from the strings moving through it's magnetic field like any normal pickup, I mean it sounds like it is *only* picking up the sound of the strings microphonically, but not transmitting any electro magnetic current, the way a normal-working pickup or mildly microphonic pickup operates. Normally operating pickups do *not work* by picking up the string sounds microphonically.

@thechronicnoizeco.6675

3 жыл бұрын

It must need to be mounted on solid body wood.

I'm here just waiting for the Wiggle Stick Shirt, don't mind me!

The look on your face when you switched to the bridge pickup!

I've installed several for a customer on his Teiscos, from different brands. Some had low output similar to this. I added a couple of thousand winds to one of his old ones and it beefed up quite a bit. The magnet is fairly weak too which also makes for low output. They weren't meant for full on rock.

It seems to me like with some adjustment it could sound really cool. Sounds like you have more work to do. Thanks for the video.

Cool! It sounds like a resonator! 😮

Fender should make you a signature guitar that's based on this I would buy lol

Pickup is too close to strings. Also the "Ry Cooder" thing happens in the neck position. Also pot values count!

@alexweisker4963

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's way too close and better in the neck. Surprised so few comments aren't ... picking this up.

@mikerevis6439

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexweisker4963 it's totally doing that weird magnet choke and warble... leo fender one said the correct adjustment for strat pickups was even with pickguard, bridge raised to compensate for volume balance. He invented a lot of this and most would say his opinions are wrong! He didnt play but you know. Invented the thing. Lolololol

@kiloband7430

3 жыл бұрын

The Coodercaster has the Teisco version , not the cheaper Norma rubber magnet variety on the strat in this video. BIG difference.

@mikerevis6439

3 жыл бұрын

@@kiloband7430 All made by Kawai. (Norma)

@kiloband7430

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikerevis6439 Norma were , but the Coodercaster style were early 60s before Teisco sold to Kawai.They were on the SS and WG models and the TRG with the on board amp.

I'm using the original gold foils on my mid 60s Zenon. They do have a place though for everything you pointed out there's a reason you usually saw them on cheaper guitars in their time. If you wanted to record something in a studio today with that it would actually make the song kinda stand out though it definitely takes one who has a liking for the sound they produce to appreciate them.

I have no idea if it’s right but I love the way it sounds

I think it sounds cool for the right situation. Kind of like a really warm pickup but a really tiny amp, like those mini battery powered ones.

@redneckwithajeep5001

2 жыл бұрын

My Zenon audition is often used in that exact situation with it's factory gold foils. I'm using a honeytone mini amp and the thing sounds an acoustic on steroids

You should've probably got the multimeter on it before installing it 👍 My first thought was that maybe it's a different polarity to the others and it's out of phase, but then I thought that maybe that shouldn't happen if you were selecting only the bridge pickup, I dunno. That's probably why the guy gave you the pickup in the first place if it doesn't work. Whip it apart and get it rewound so it works fine again 👍

I think it sounds cool. That's got possibilities!

Finger picking only with just the gold foil has a great twelve string sound to me, but not so much for other playing styles. I was very surprised by that!

I've got gold foils in my strat, and they sound NOTHING like that one! I love 'em. I think you gotcherself a dud, dude. Thanks for the fun videos!

Isn’t the whole deal with goldfoils supposed to be that they have super weak magnets in them so they end up being really jangly and bright? I am assuming that what you’re hearing is correct, but I can’t say I personally think it’s a great sound.

Now thats one chunky puppy! 🎸🐶

It's such a good sound

Shine and bright as gold.

Man that hamonic reminds me of my old acoustic I attached a pickup in the sound hole, but I got to say I actually like the sound its unique o.o keep it lol even if it's broken that is funky, alot of guitarist have come up with cool setups using a mistake, almost wish you could put two more of the same pickup on the mid and neck and see how it sounds, always enjoy your vids

@robertfranks981

3 жыл бұрын

By the way o.o $10 lol I'll take the pickup and put it in my stratenstien I'm slowly building

Oh man throw that in between two hums, with a on off switch. Like a big Apple strat. You got something there. Maybe put some rubber behind it for less body noise.

Sounds fun with the fuzz ☺️

I get the feeling the pickup is A: too close to the strings, and B: not connected to a resonant enough material being stuck to the plastic pick guard.

@patientswim6888

Жыл бұрын

Pickups dont work by picking up vibrations from the guitar mate come on now

Gold foils were designed for 1meg pots, not 250k.

@canyon1017

3 жыл бұрын

You hit the nail on the head

@antoniocanales9922

3 жыл бұрын

dude 1 meg pots let a lot of treble bleed in the signal. if it sounds atrociously harsh on 250 k pots, it's going to sound like hell with 1 meg. that's going to make the issue worse.

@ScottyBrockway

3 жыл бұрын

@@antoniocanales9922 They are very low impedence and the harmony guitars have 1 meg pots, they also have very big tone caps like .1uf, it is what it is. They are way too low output for 250k.

@antoniocanales9922

3 жыл бұрын

@@ScottyBrockway the pickups in Harmony guitars are different than this particular pup. Jazzmasters have always used 1 meg pots, too- but I think it’s more than obvious that using 1 meg pots with THIS particular pickup (which seems faulty) will absolutely kill the (already dead) tone.

@ScottyBrockway

3 жыл бұрын

@@antoniocanales9922 Looks like a harmony pickup to me. If it's a tiesco pickup that would explain it sounding terrible and nothing will fix it. If it's an aftermarket pickup (which I doubt), its not worth the material it's made of and belong in the recycle bin.

I bet the modulation is just what you said about it being so microphonic and picking up the pickguard vibration since it’s surface mounted. I wonder if you put a foam strip between the pickup and the guard if it would get rid of some of that. Still will still sound super thin and tinny though lol.

This thing is 60's garage rock/90's Grunge/2000's Indie fab. I kinda dig it. I'd love to make some death&roll or some trashy old school lo-fi black metal with one of these, but I'd honestly be equally interested in doing Blue Cheer and The Kinks covers, or maybe some old grunge like Temple of the Dog or Soundgarden. There is a LOT going on here.

I'm so glad I've never gotten a gold foil pup... For me, that's a completely unusable sound. Thanks for sharing this, definitely appreciated

@60CycleHumcast

3 жыл бұрын

i dont think this pickup is representative of other goldfoils, something is wrong with it.

I think it is basically exactly what you said . it does not sound terrible i did not hate it and has uses - very limited uses . .(like cool background or layering parts) the pick up is not quite right , but to to fix the issues is not worth the time and effort . well it is up to you of course , a big reason I subscribed to your channel is because you try these things out . stuff we all think of and about but never really give it the go . this is one I was curious about honestly lol .

🤣 Hearing you describe the set up process...... that is my work day in a nutshell on 3-8 guitars a day. I’m a Repair Tech at Guitar Center. You wouldn’t believe how badly some guitars come in.

I really dig the 60s vibe, man. (note the period correct vernacular)

I had a vintage gold foil that looked just like that one. It was probably somewhat microphonic, but it sounded good. Certainly not thin sounding that that one...makes me think something is wrong with it.

5:57, you could do (super) lo--fi vocal loops on that through the amp! That's kinda cool!

If the pickup is still too close to the strings, it will cause a modulation or oscillation sound. It sounds like you did what you could, but if its still too close, you will get that effect

To give it a fair shot, gold foils sound better in the neck position ;) these are generally light/ airy in tone so to have it in that super bright position next to the bridge, I’m not terribly surprised you’re getting that tone.

I agree that the pickup is probably installed too close to the string or that there is something wrong with the pickup. As someone who has played a few gold foil guitars and has a guitar with a couple of silver foil pickups in it I can tell you that the neck position on these kinds of pickups tend to sound a whole lot better (and much more usable) unless you’re trying to get a thin, jangly late 50’s or early 60’s sound.

i love strats because they're so modular. with the right mods and mindset, the possibilities are endless. triple humbucker? can do, 5 single coils? can do, bass pickups? can do, floating archtop pickups? can do, headless strat? can do! a synth strat? can do! the sitar strat? can do! and much more mods! PS. All of these mods are legitimate

@victorhugo-wo2ci

3 жыл бұрын

I love how a strat can be modulated to any pickup by a simple routing and a change of pickguard, something i really dont get on a LP for example

Was this video made for me??? Yeah, I have a bit of a vintage guitar addiction. Have played all sorts of weird and wonderful pickups, including these. You were definitely, 100% picking up a lot of rattle there. An abnormal amount. Take the core sound without the weird rattle, and that's what you're looking at. The microphonic aspect is part of the attraction - it picks up a lot of harmonics and sounds really harmonically rich when boosted - an always-on clean boost is pretty much a necessity. Managing the feedback is definitely part of the challenge... something like the Cuvave Fuzz, which is gated, suits a microphonic pickup perfectly to combat that. Just without the weird rattle part - and being a sensible distance from the strings, which definitely changed the tone. I've raised pickups to within millimetres, and they sounded different - bad different. FWIW I'd also say you have to put a bit more work into sculpting the sound with pedals and amp EQ to find the sweet tones - but when you search find sweet spots, they are REALLY sweet. I have two of these pickups (non gold but otherwise identical), and I'm going to mount them in the middle position on two guitars that only have two pickups. Thanks to you, now I know that they need to be mounted really firmly!!

I had a Harmony H59 with three gold foil pickups. The neck sounded superb, the middle pickup OK but not as nice as the neck and the bridge one (which sat far too close to the bridge IMO), was like an icepick. I'd say they are best positioned towards the neck, and to be avoided near the bridge.

That be a funky finish on dat Strat!

Its surprisingly quiet and thin like you said, but I think it would sound good with just some chord strumming with a simple reverb, maybe some delay

At 9:00 i had a revelation. You needed to pull the trem springs super tight. Well now they might be ringing and that gold foil might be microphically (or magnetically) picking up the springs from the bottom, and making a wierd "spring reverb" effect.

I'd say there's something wrong with that pickup. I've got a few old Teiscos with gold foils and they don't do that 😂

I know it's been a while since this was posted, but I have to say that not all gold foils are the same. The one you installed is a much thinner, more microphonic version. The most desirable type has the "pole" screws on the side not in the center - that's the Ry Cooder version. Also, gold foils tend to sound best in the neck position. That being said, this set up does have a cool sound - kind of jangly, sparkly, and very un-stratocaster in sound.

Love the video, Ryan! I make some gold foil pickups that are humbucker-sized and sound nothing like that. May I send you a set to try?

Put a piece of foam under the pickup to fill the void under it, that buzz will go away, and you are right about the pickup being out of phase. Its the pickup vibrating

My best guess is that a lot of the problem is with the top mounting on the pickguard. Being so microphonic, these are probably the worst type of pickup to install this way. That being said, if you don’t like the basic tone as it is, you’re not gonna like it even if you installed it more traditionally and got rid of the weird resonances. I’ve never been able to bond with them either, so you’re not alone yo

Music is subjective but to me, I can say,,,it looks cool! It makes sense that being so microphonic, it would have two “signals”, the normal magnetic interaction between the poles and the strings with the added audio of the sound of air shaking. It’s odd where our inspiration comes from sometimes, the piece you played at the end was pretty cool, would you have put that together using another pick-up? You could also write some music for 8bit video games 😁.

That was like that scene in Night in the Museum where Ben Stiller messes around with the Museum’s public address system.

I bought one as well or a Strat (GeminiPickups) and it was thin and horrible with other Strat pickups . I had to use in the neck of a tele . But I have a Set of Lollar gold foils in a LSL and man o man they are sweetmeat. They are all different , Teisco specs are the crispy thin versions. I just scooped a MOJO GF Humbucker.

I can dig it. The Goldie is cool.

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Teisco used a lot of different gold foils, some good-- most poopy. In that style, look for the screw poles on the edge of the pickup, not in the center. Hard to find, though. As old gold foils go, I've had better luck with the DeArmonds or Roy Smecks put in Harmony and Airline Bobkats.

I think it may be that the pickup is too close to the strings which causes a weird modulation effect. Here is a video showing examples. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIOBrpaxo7SxZpM.html But there might be something even more wrong.

That pickup sounds sooo much better than a regular strat bridge pickup!

@morsomarso9626

9 ай бұрын

Not true for me

This tone could belong in a This Heat album

@ucielmedina3375

3 жыл бұрын

I don't get the impression he'd be cool enough to know This Heat.

@revdrjob

3 жыл бұрын

The greatest P&W band

I'd love to see you make this thing into a Coodercaster (lap steel pickup in the bridge, goldfoil in the neck)!