Ex-owner of the BMPCC 6K Pro here, and I absolutely loved the image & colour science, the availability of built-in ND's and of course the best menu system for under $10,000! But the reason I sold my BMPCC 6K Pro was the form factor. I shoot with a range of other cameras, and most of them don't have the exquisite image of the 6K Pro, but I always reached for them instead entirely due to the weird, clunky form factor of the 6k Pro. That form factor on the 'Pocket' range was IMHO, terrible. But now that the Pyxis has arrived, I'm getting back into the Blackmagic ecosystem again! Brilliant!

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

This is great to hear! The images from all of my Blackmagic Cameras is so unique. When we'd shoot with an FX6 and BMPCC 6K Pro, as long as the color temp matched, it wasn't too hard to color grade and match. I appreciate hearing from you on the form factor and I love how we all have different wants and needs for a shoot. Cheers!

@tomn8276

2 ай бұрын

Best system under 10k? Great rolling shutter, amazing mount, lovely color shift with the nd filters and so much more... God thanks for the komodo or c70.

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

And I couldn't agree more with the menu system. It's so helpful having quick access to change all the settings with one touch. Cheers!

@user-tj8ox8iy8m

2 ай бұрын

@@tomn8276 I bought an IR cut filter, popped it on the front of my lenses and there was never a single issue with IR pollution. And just to prove how Blackmagic punches way above it's weight class, both the C70 and the Komodo are significantly more expensive than even the brand new Pyxis! Add in SDI, timecode sync, an aluminium square body with all sorts of rigging options, a full frame sensor with an OLPF and of course a free DaVinci Studio Resolve license whenever you buy a new BM camera, and suddenly you have truly unbeatable value that Canon, Sony, Red and so on can't even touch!

I came to the same conclusion after seeing the cart total of the complete rig I would have to make for the Pyxis. And then I realized, I'm just one person who wants to stay behind the camera and not a small team to help me operate. The Pyxis has a side monitor for an AD and ADP. If you don't have those guys don't buy the Pyxis.

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

I fully agree with you on this! The other issue I see with the side monitor is it limits accessories like side grips, microphones, etc.

@RPMusicStudios

2 ай бұрын

I agree with this 💯

@johnycane

2 ай бұрын

Side monitors for an AD are on the right side…the pyxis has a monitor on the left side for user menu controls

@erosefilms

2 ай бұрын

The Pyxis can easily be for single operator. I shoot with a red raptor and have worked with URSA as well. It’s not that difficult for one person.

@AllThingsKen

2 ай бұрын

U DONT NEED ALL THAT TO HAVE A PYSIX LOL. jUST BECAUSE ITS ON THE SIDE MEANS NOTHING DIFFERENT THAN THE POCKETS

been going through some many comparisons of these 2 cameras on youtube, your video was a breath of fresh air! informative and actually fun to listen to! Thank you for the great video!

@mattspadesoundandvision

22 күн бұрын

Thank you so much for that! I really appreciate it.

Good insights. specially about the same sensor.

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

I was thrilled at first until I saw it was the exact same sensor. Saved me from making yet another purchase. :)

You are so right. We should choose the camera that support our business purposes. For that reason Ill go for the Pyxis. Hopefully I could make some return to hand on the 17k end of this year. Cant wait

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! I think you’ll be quite pleased with the image quality.

This is exactly how these two cameras are designed. The handheld 6k for solo work and the pixie is for teams or people who already have a box camera accessory set. I think the hype is real, but I shoot on the lumix s5ii and I’ll get a BRAW recorder soon. I don’t need any improvements in image quality or client optics, and I actually love the hybrid design since I’m a hybrid shooter. The pixie is going to make a lot of people happy, and the handheld 6K’s going on the used market are going to make even more people happy. Overall a great release!

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

Very well said and I agree.

You are absolutely correct. Great video. Actually PYXIS is a downgrade from BMPCC FF 6K. PYXIS is more fluff and more expensive for type of filmmakers who are actual users of BMPCC

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

I would imagine if you were going to use a box style camera you would go with an FX six or something a little more advanced than this one. I appreciate them trying to please everybody but I’m very happy with my full frame cinema camera and I agree with you.

Just out of interest, you seem to show your bmcc6k in a smallrig cage. I’ve been reading that there’s an issue with mounting a top handle (Something about the screw not sitting flush) and yet you have a top handle. Have you had to modify or have smallrig sorted it out? Could you provide details of your cage set up please? Many thanks

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

You are correct, it is the cage for the pocket 6k. Providing the cage is a bottom mount it should work. My top handle screw into the cage body. Thank you!

Subscribed! Very interesting -- I'm an L-mount photographer with a fair few L and M lenses now, and either of these look great for expanding into short films. I'm aiming for the Pyxis unless there'sa great deal now on the 6K.

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for that! I appreciate it. You can’t go wrong with either and I think you’ll love the image. The open gate makes shooting anamorphic perfect!

Blackmagic already explained in detail why they did not have a flip-out screen and built-in NDs. First off, they wanted to keep the price point down to 3K. Second, they said adding built-in NDs might not be used or wanted by cinematographers who already have matte boxes, screw-on NDs, and lenses with ND blades. Third, they said the EVF and 7" monitors were already viewing options over the 4" screen. Fourth, they wanted to keep the form factor small, light weight, and streamlined. Fifth, Dan May already hinted at more Pyxis models coming in 2025. Maybe they will do a flip-out screen and ND version in a future model, but having those options will be more expensive. Overall... Blackmagic stated the Pyxis is for those who want a solid starting point into the world of cinematography.

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

I agree with everyhting you said, however, the new full frame Cinema Camera also does not have built in NDs and I'm ok with that. With the sensors on the Cinema Camera 6K (not Pockdet Pro) and Pyxis are the same, it becomes a question of which one is best for your application. Cheers.

Thanks Matt!

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

Sure thing! Cheers!

Awesome video!!

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Very sensible. I like your thinking.

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! I was excited about the announcement, but once I heard it was the same sensor I figured it's a personal preference of one body to the other.

It all depends on the applications n budget, it's how we use the camera (in fact, the higher end the more rigging required) However, i find it hilarious that people were making videos longing for a BOX style 6k camera, and now people are making videos disliking this BOX style camera🤷‍♂... Actually Black Magic has kinda given us the "perfect" camera but it cost $14,995 (URSA Cine 12K) 🤭

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

I would love to get my hands on that "perfect camera" the URSA Cine 12K. Your first sentence is the key takeaway to all of this. Considering they both have the same sensor, it then shifts to your needs and application. Cheers!

I think this equation might change with an integrated control monitor like Small HD & the Komodo. The second you have control on top is the second it gets opened up again for solo operation. Do we know if they are planning on doing that with their BM Assist? Orrr.....????

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

I don’t know but that would make sense. Thank you

Does full frame mean less noise in low light comparing to super 35?

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

I’ve notified a slight difference in the noise level but it’s still not as clean as Sony cameras in low light.

The loving the menus, the colour science and the formats, and a lot more the new form factor, BUT ONLY THING that is a major dislike to me from this cameras is the cropping factor. Can't understand why they just can't make them to just reescalate the sensor instead of cropping from each format that's not a 6k res

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

I agree! Using the 36 f/ps works but even for 60 I’m losing so much of the frame.

You are correct. I love the Bmccp 6k. Giving the fact that it would be the same as the Pyxis and slightly cheaper. However, in some situations my clients were not too impressed with the form factor of the 6kpro cuz it looks abit like a photography camera(dslr) than a pro video camera. Hopefully with the Pyxis geared up, I could bring up the impressions from my clients. Would be a bit more expensive to setup, but can also be easily paid back after a few jobs.

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

This is great to hear! This is where it matters when it comes to clients and our jobs/income. I did a documentary for a client using the cinema camera 6K. I stopped by her house to get some run-&-gun B roll and I took out my DJI Osmo Pocket 3. The client was so impressed with the tiny size of the camera and the image we were able to get that she went and bought one for herself. Not sure if I would show up to a paid gig with a pocket camera like that, though.

Love this video! However, I prefer the SDI and battery solution-- it makes it a great A cam, but would love the form factor of the Pocket series, so I would like this as my run n gun B cam.

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! My Production 4k uses SDI and is global shutter. If they could make something like that full frame, I would spend any amount of money on it. Lol.

3:25 Gear still matters, albeit not as much as the operator.

you cant always stay behind the camera, as a indie I always use an external camera. If you want to be a solo shooter you could always use fuji cameras. They are made for solo shooters, I mean stabilization auto focus etc etc.

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

As a solo shooter, I love both the pocket 6k and the cinema 6k because of the monitor size and functions. I do see the need for IBIS, but for me, I either use a monopod, gimbal, or peak-design straps to stabilize the camera.

@efeconker

2 ай бұрын

@@mattspadesoundandvision im not a solo shooter nor videographer man, I love both blackmagics. cheers.

Indeed!

Fully agreed!!!!

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Tbh we’re grabbing the new ursa and one of these purely so we don’t have to pull out the ursa every gig n still charge the client the same $$ with a built out Pyxis. Rigs matter to most clients who don’t know

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

Thank you and I can imagine showing up with a small camera like an Osmo Pocket 3 and charging them.

@youngonestudio

2 ай бұрын

@@mattspadesoundandvision I mean you could. Depends entirely on the project.

I'm curious if the rolling shutter performance has improved

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, it hasn't. That's still my biggest issue with the newer BlackMagic cameras, but it's also why I still use the Production 4K with the global shutter.

@verebellus

2 ай бұрын

@@mattspadesoundandvision have you tested the rolling shutter performance on the pyxis already?

Your b-roll looks great!

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

Some great points. I'm a little confused as to why people think this camera is so incredible. Yes it's a box, but it's not a very small box. Why would you get this when you could get a BS1H, slap the video assist on it (you'll need an external monitor anyway for either camera) and still have Blackmagic raw. And that camera came out 3 years ago, and it has great autofocus and battery life. The Pyxis should have ditched the in-built screen and shipped with an external screen that can plug into one of the USB-C ports for monitoring and camera control, but still recorded Braw internally. And shrink it to BS1H size. That would have made it an amazing camera for rigging and gimbal work. As it stands now, you'd need a larger gimbal to accommodate it because it's too long and heavy. I only see this being a great camera for shoulder work, at which point get a used ursa mini 4.6K for the same price or less, and it will be far superior in many ways(unless you have to have full frame).

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

Thank you and I agree, although one user commented that they already have gear for a box-style camera. I can see where that would apply; almost like having certain lenses would form your decision to buy a camera. Cheers!

I thought I would want the Pyxis but when you put the release hype away BM made odd choices that I don't agree with. The screen is ok on the side because it gives room for the back mounted battery, but it was short sighted to not use a flipout screen that could be viewed in any direction you wanted. Removing ProRes, not including H264, seem more like an effort to push you to use DaVinci. Again give options and let the user decide. No internal ND when its included in a less expensive Pocket? Has the same sensor so their no advantage in image quality. One mini xlr... If you already own a Pocket I can't see those users switching. Not sure who they are marketing this camera for. Camera like FX6 has greater appeal because it can be used for a wide variety of work where Pyxis is very narrow.

@user-tj8ox8iy8m

2 ай бұрын

Did you see traffic jam of people flooding their way over to the Blackmagic stand at NAB, all to get a first look at the Pyxis? Not the new 12K Ursa cinema camera, which is spectacular BTW, people were flooding over to see the Pyxis instead. In other words, Blackmagic is going to sell TONs of these cameras! And as for the side screen, Arri has a side screen, Sony Venice has a side screen, and literally no one complains about that. So I really don't get the critique about the side screen on the Pyxis. Doesn't make sense. The Pyxis is now a true cinema camera for only...wait for it...$3,000! That is simply incredible value.

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

Right? I can dream that one day I’d have the budget to use the Ursa 12k!

@srandall31

2 ай бұрын

You said "No internal ND when it's included in a less expensive Pocket? Has the same sensor so their no advantage in image quality.".... The 6K Pro that has internal NDs does not have the same sensor. It has an S35 sensor. The the new Cinema Camera 6K that does have the same sensor, does not have internal NDs.

@petercofrancesco9812

2 ай бұрын

​@@srandall31 BM is following the same strategy that the Japanese employ to sell more cameras they intentionally leave out features. This model has full frame but no ND, this model had ND but not full frame sensor, etc. The point is they're more concerned carefully controlling features so their different models don't compete against one another. Its not that it would have been too expensive to include an internal ND in the Pyxis. After all it's supposed to be a higher end cinema box camera. They just don't want the Pyxis to take sales from the Pocket and the way to do that is to insure they don't have the same features. Probably the same reason it has no ProRes just another way to differentiate them.

@srandall31

2 ай бұрын

@@petercofrancesco9812 Including internal NDs would have made the box even bigger. Most if not all other box cinema cameras (i.e. Komodo) also do not have internal NDs for this reason. Now as far as that display screen goes, I'm pretty sure they could have articulated that with no additional bulk.

Keep on with the good reviews as they help a lot

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for that and I certainly will!

why would anyone shoot without a external monitor... how do you get low angles without a monitor?

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

This monitor tilts and for low angles it’s great but I hear you. I have used an external monitor on it when I recorded myself but other then that I’ve hardly needed one.

@americantrollfilm

2 ай бұрын

@@mattspadesoundandvision i guess depends what the need is for the scene/shoot. When i need to get low, im not going to get on my stomach and fuck around trying to see the monitor on the camera. I"ll just kneel or bend down and use the external and get even lower. Different applications, different needs. If you just have it on sticks and doing talking heads at eye level... all goode

great YT channel

@mattspadesoundandvision

17 күн бұрын

Thank you so much!

Are both camera's a big leap up from the Mini Ursa?

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

As someone who has worked with the OG Ursa Mini, yes. The full frame sensor in these are amazing. Compared to the Ursa 12k? I’m not sure it would be a big leap rather a personal preference.

@jeremiahschuler3977

2 ай бұрын

the ursa 12k oplf is still better than

@David-mg1yj

2 ай бұрын

@@mattspadesoundandvision Thanks for the reply, Matt.

@tomn8276

2 ай бұрын

Nope!

@erosefilms

2 ай бұрын

The original URSA mini yes. Also FF doesn’t make it better .

They constantly bring out new cameras, I am happy to still be using the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema 4k because next year the PYXIS won't even be relevant. If your screenwritten movie script gets made into a film, just invest some budget into an Arri Alexa.

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

Exactly! I’m still using my Production 4k from Blackmagic and I still get compliments about it being my “new camera.”

Sometimes you wonder what’s happening at BMC

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

And what’s next!

I just don't like the batterie life in the cinema camera 6k :( is the only thing that need to be solve.

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

It’s horrible. I use the extended pack to get extra time but still…

I would have preferred the approach of an URSA mini “mini” better, instead of a different pocket camera, with new shortcomings…

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

They might still release one. I was surprised at this release being that the full frame is still somewhat new.

@JoshSher_

2 ай бұрын

@@mattspadesoundandvision Yes, to me the release didn't quite make sense in multiple ways... I mean they could have just released the Pyxis and don't make the 6k Full Frame at all. And yes, I really hope there's more coming. I just have this weird feeling, that they sabotaged the Pyxis a bit, to not cannibalize their current URSA minis... maybe now that they have build the top line of the URSA models, they can rebuild the lower segment in a new way. Something between the Pyxis and the new URSAS... They can now build something pretty for that 5000$ range without the pressure of it being the flagship.

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

@@JoshSher_ My wish to Blackmagic is that they make the Production 4k sensor full frame. With the mirrorless mount options now I'd like to think that is possible.

Most of us looking at the pyxis have that gear already…the monitor on the side isn’t for viewing, its for controlling the menus just like most other cinema cameras, especially the “box style” cameras.

@tomn8276

2 ай бұрын

And draining the camera/ battery!

@johnycane

2 ай бұрын

@@tomn8276 turn the brightness all the way down if that’s a major issue for you and blackmagic doesn’t provide an option to have it turn off when not in use…I would bet money they give that option on this model though.

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for this. As someone who doesn’t use one it is helpful to know and this makes sense.

And it's price will also decrease after pyxis come to market. So people can buy it with DJI mini gamble.

@mattspadesoundandvision

Ай бұрын

True! Although I’d recommend the RS3 Pro due to the size and weight of this camera.

Yes a box camera is more professional!!!!

No one is talking about the 13 stops of dynamic range / bad low light? In 2024 this is not enough.

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

This is true! For the camera I’m using it works since I’m mostly in a controller environment

@plutoX1982

2 ай бұрын

because nothing out there could do 13 stops at 3k and most of the jobs can be done at 11 stops. Lighting kits are super affordable in 2024 so you dont have to sacrifice ISO

@tomn8276

2 ай бұрын

@@plutoX1982 Tell this to someone working nights in the city or concert and you will hear that they are definitely using cameras with more dynamic range and better rolling shutter. This box is only a driver/ marketing for the new evf...

@prostigeMarketing

2 ай бұрын

Most cameras advertising above 13 are lying lol. Canon r5c claims 16, but actually test shows its actually less than the blackmagic CC. Even Sony test shows they're only one stop above BM.

@plutoX1982

2 ай бұрын

@@tomn8276 well, then you just need to bring another camera of your choice to concerts. Dont tell me you are gonna use only one camera for all use cases, right? I never film concerts, but I used BMCC6K with fast aperture lenses in weddings with no problems. So for me it works great enough.

Having owned a 6K Pro, I'm qualified to say it's a crap camera to hold and film with. No AF - even to rapidly frame your shot, balance is all wrong, battery is diabolical and unless you rig this out, it's not a practical filming solution. The alternative is wrong too. The fixed side-monitor is useless and holding it will be a nightmare.

@plutoX1982

2 ай бұрын

it is more a settings display. Not monitor. With the top handle and more bracket on the right, for most right handed ppl, no one will hold on the screen. The AF on Bmccp 6k is not too hard to improve. It is actually fine without rigged unless you swing it crazily.

@mattspadesoundandvision

2 ай бұрын

I had the 6k pro for 2 years. For handheld I’d use the Peak Design strap, otherwise it was on sticks, monopod, or gimbal. I agree if you want to hold a camera in your hand and shoot the Sony is the better option but if you’re going to take the time for production, the image you get from these cameras is quite unmatched.