My favorite Persona is Persona 3 FES: since I lost a sister when I was a kid, the theme and characters like Ken or Yukari reached to me a lot. I do agree with you that the Answer was necessary to give the message of 'you have to keep on living". It was a hard game to play emotionnally but the theme was perfectly written, without judging the characters' way of grieving their loss.

@Official_RetroMania

Жыл бұрын

My condolences. I totally agree with you. I think everyone can sadly relate to this masterpiece because "death" is something everyone awaits sooner or later. We all lost loved ones and this game teaches us a perfect lesson how to cope with reality. Is beautiful and the interactive nature of the media itself (video games) made this story so much more intensive and thrilling. In my opinion P3 FES is also a S tier game and my favorite Persona game.

@perlichtman1562

Жыл бұрын

My condolences for your loss. I agree completely with you about the way that the game portrayed loss hitting in a very real way as opposed to prescribing dos and don’ts. For me, it tied into the experiences of losing my college best friend to suicide when he was 23 (I really had to de-sensitize to that evoker imagery…) and other friends to terminal illnesses and a car crash in elementary and college. I’ve rarely experienced any game that portrayed so much of the experience.

@lazarovidal4427

Жыл бұрын

Literally no sense

@DaPurpleWarrior

10 ай бұрын

​@@lazarovidal4427Fuck you mean

@Sceneemofemboy0666

6 ай бұрын

Yea, Persona 3 FES is my fav too and, even if the original game (not the FES) is from 2006, death and human mortality are evergreen themes that makes Persona 3 FES, even if the basis is old, really enjoyable even today

I will never forget the genuine emotion you showed during Akechi's boss fight and everything afterwards. I have seen people feeling bad, but never to the point of crying. Seeing you shed tears for him made me happy that someone could feel such love for a fictional character and it makes me believe that is what the creators intended originally with Akechi.

@georgelongcoal1117

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, as someone who can't cry due to emotions, same. Like seeing people cry for characters and or scenes... Soothes me? Makes me feel lighter? I don't know how to explain it. My best example that isn't akechi are Roxas and Zack from KH saga and ff 7cc respectively.

@Entropic_Alloy

Жыл бұрын

I cannot, for the life of me, understand the love for that character. I've shed plenty of tears for other characters, but he was so irredeemable and horrible that it makes no sense to me why people love him. He kills 2 of your party members' parents and has harmed countless other people, but people give him a pass because why?

@ShadowOfMassDestruction

Жыл бұрын

@@Entropic_Alloy Because of a deep understanding that comes from relatability and relevance to one's life that garners sympathy and the want to see them to do better, I cried for Chie even though her story isn't especially tragic or deep in any way yet she's one of my favorite characters.

@jaydenc367

Жыл бұрын

@@Entropic_Alloy Because he is not really irredeemable and was screwed over so badly and used and wanted to enact justice that it got twisted and warped and he became a pretty terrible person who had no one their to help him out or guide him yet he is just like the other Phantom Thieves with how society screwed him over and how he deserved better, he never had any real friends and people just liked him for his fake facade, overall he is a sympathic and tragic character and he is not beyond redemption especially after they spared people like Kamoshida and Shido.

@Glxrp

Жыл бұрын

@@jaydenc367 I think that Akechi berating maruki about how he will die when the world returns was his redeeming point for me, that’s how people find his character powerful, I found him very similar to a tragic hero/antagonist, rise to fame, fall, redemption, and then the devs ripping him away after and killing him off was a really good move.

Persona 3: FES literally changed my entire worldview. Aigis' monologue at the end of the base game is so incredibly powerful, and no other work of art has moved me the same way. "You don't have to change the world to find meaning in life. Sometimes, all you need is something simple. Like someone to take care of." TEARS TO THIS DAY 100/10 game

@Gael-xp4fk

Жыл бұрын

Yea Srry to rain in ur parade but it’s “ you don’t have to SAVE the world to find meaning” now if only the other 85% of the game was half as good as the nyx arc

@ShadowOfMassDestruction

Жыл бұрын

@@Gael-xp4fk Hol' on let the man cook

P4G will always be my favorite Persona game ever. From the characters, world building and the ending illustrate always keep it close to my heart.

@musf1k

9 ай бұрын

cultured take

@zelusss

7 ай бұрын

i love Social Links in this game

@jessepike3565

7 ай бұрын

Mine as well P4G , P5, P3P can’t wait for the P3 reload to come out

@Dodalalal91

6 ай бұрын

I agree. I do not remember much about P5 other then about futaba.

@verde629

5 ай бұрын

@@Dodalalal91nah , Ana is best girl forever

I'm shocked we got so many Persona tier lists, characters, dances but just now we got one for the GAMES itself 😂.

@nightwish1453

Жыл бұрын

give it time and we might get a party member tier list of how viable they are, some of them exist already

@Selphie

Жыл бұрын

Next she should rank her persona tier lists

@Official_RetroMania

Жыл бұрын

​@@nightwish1453 Ohhh boy... Can't wait for Persona mascot tier list, good tier list, vending machine tier list... I mean if we can get Ace Attorney 3 Trials and Tribulations launch box tier list then we can also get one for the Persona vending machines! Who is with me!?

@Official_RetroMania

Жыл бұрын

​@@Selphie That would be such a CrystAAHHL thing to do 😂.

Liked the tier list since you gave every game an equal chance without shrugging any of the spin offs due to the fan reception. And the explanations you gave for them were quick and reasonable.

The rumors worked 💀

I remember finding you through P4G and P5R and honestly I’m glad I did and I think this is a very good rating (my personal favorite Persona is P4G since I enjoy the aspect of a genuine cast who interacts with one another more human-like, and also I enjoyed the idea of how the group had to learn to grow as the game went on.)

P5R will forever have a very special place in my heart. It's one of the few games that has genuinely touched my soul and I can 100% sympathize with your own thoughts about the experience that was P5R

I had a super fun and VERY shallow experience playing Vanilla P5 my first two times. Like I love the game, but I never found its story or themes to resonate with me on a very deep level, but Royal was a completely different story. Made for an experience I'll never forget, and one that in a lot of ways, changed my life. Glad it resonated with you so much as well.

Normally I’m not the type to cry at stories unless someone else is crying at them too and GIRL your blind 2/2 reaction HURTED. That and your P2 streams/Vids had me looking deeper into the game and I have a greater appreciation for its character writing. Thank you!

@CrystAAHHL

Жыл бұрын

I'm truly honored!

Personally, Persona 4 is my favorite in the series, and it's for a lot of the same reasons as you had with Persona 5 Royal. I got a lot more emotions out of Persona 4, than I have from Persona 5. But I think that both are equally great! Loved the tier list though! A lot of honestly based opinions!

@zackrodriguez2406

10 ай бұрын

Both games are great but 4 is the best and has the most soul

@musf1k

9 ай бұрын

Both are equally great? Nah, Persona 4 is by far the superior game.

@sirsonic1832

9 ай бұрын

@@musf1kgoated

@chillswany

4 ай бұрын

@@musf1kP4 fans trying their best to not be toxic (they can’t)

@autumnsphere7581

4 ай бұрын

Persona 4 sucks in comparison to 3 and 5

Agreed with 5, absolute masterpiece of a game. I'm playing the endgame at the minute and it's just been the best experience

For me persona 4 was the best gsme I've ever played. The characters and the cast was so wholesome and amazing. So many events and social things to do. The community was so close and the true golden ending was beautiful. They really put a lot of effort into that ending making it complete amd satisfying. It was a full package experience. I don't think any game is going to top the experience I've had with persona 4 golden for me.

I 100% agree with you on the answer. It blows my mind that people constantly criticize Yukari's character in it because she "goes back on her development in confronting death" but that's what I love, no one ever said that character development is permanent, those feelings you had before always come back stronger, it teaches us that even if you confront one adversity it doesn't mean you never suffer from it again, it's not about how many times you get knocked down by life, it's if you're willing to stand up again and Yukari does that, she changes and confronts her fears of loss thanks to the bond with her friends like Mitsuru who consoles her as she breaks down and lets it all out, it's just brilliant.

@RocketSlime

7 ай бұрын

It's more that outside of social links for me the cast feels massively underdeveloped outside of key moments, like Junpei and his whole relationship with Chidori is ALL off screen

I have played and beaten the entire mainline franchise. I think 4g is also s tier but 4 vanilla was my first persona game so I'm biased

@Gael-xp4fk

Жыл бұрын

Why do people that like Persona 4 so apologetic???? Yes u are allowed to like P4 for crying out loud

wow those persona 2 rumors really worked

Definitely would want an SMT thoughts video. It is such an interesting series with themes I would love to here you discuss.

I am so glad I was able to discover your channel through your Persona content (it was actually your P3 highlights and not the P5R playthrough lol) and it was a pleasure getting to witness some of your P2 experience live. I am slowly progressing through my own Persona experience working backward from P5R (unless you can count watch the P3 movies twice already lol) and cannot wait for more Persona content from your channel, on top of the other games you play. Also, we NEED that P3 copium! PLEASE, ATLUS!

@dinasov9

Жыл бұрын

the P3 and jsr hopium has been leaked man, I can't take this anymore

Hi crystal. I watched most of your persona playthrough but this is the first time I commented. I found your channel because of the dancing tier list and then before I knew it I watched many of your videos. Watching most of your persona blind through just reminds me of how I first reacted to the game. I really appreciate that you shared your experience with us because whenever I watch your videos, you re-live the same experience that I have long time ago. It feels like I play the game for the first time. Hence, your channel has become my #1 go-to channel for replay value of playing the persona games. I played all versions of P3, played P4G on vita, and OG P5 (I still haven't play P5R yet, waiting until it goes on sale). P3 is easily my favorite because a lot of reasons, but same as you the message resonated with me the most. I played P3 when I was still a kid (2007! Holy shit!), and with the release of the remaster, as an adult I find it funny that the message hits harder now. Being an adult makes you forget the simple things, I didn't realize how much I needed to hear Aigis monologue, Akinari's mother advice, and the squad hopeful messages after fighting erebus. I still cried whenever key moments of P3 show up. Keep up the good work crystal. Thank you for all the content and best of luck to you!

Watching this video really got to me, I started watching you right around you starting Persona3FES as I was going through my own Persona4G journey and saw your uploads. I have loved ALL of your persona uploads, experiencing both of the 2 games for the first time through you as well, and the spinoffs such as the dancing games and Qs. I initially saw P3 through the movies but the game was so much fun with you, and I heartedly cried at the end at the last interaction on the bench with the Sun arcana's mom, bringing full light to the game's message. Thank you so so so much! You've made my years, literally, going back to 2020 for Persona 3, and ending the journey this year. I want you to keep creating content, I will always watch!!

The idea of a murder mystery Persona game is SO perfect. If only the mystery had had a more interesting solution.

A while back I was in a pretty bad place with money and lifestyle, the only way I was able to experience persona was through videos and streams of people playing them. You might call me cringe or stupid for this but Persona 5 Royal was the breaking point for me, it was something I was so inspired by that it gave me the motivation to get a job and out of the place I was in mentally. There’s tons of other times in my life where relationships or other people have been difficult to confront or talk to and I’ve needed to go on a drive, and just listen to Persona music so I can work through my problems. I’m not saying that Persona is this holy thing that you need to praise as your lord and savior, because that would be antithetical to the messages the games try to teach. What I am saying is that without it I don’t know what would have happened to me, if I’d be in a darker place or not.

@ShadowOfMassDestruction

Жыл бұрын

That's not cringe at all, media can just be another medium for personal growth in my opinion. That's why I will never belittle any one who looks up to fictional characters or stories when what they are feeling is genuine.

@anotherkenlon

10 ай бұрын

Stories can, and should, have impact. It doesn't matter what it is that gets you moving in the right direction, as long as it does.

I just want a full-ass Remake of the 2 Duology as one Super Game.

Thanks for another great video Crystal! ❤ And whoever is editing is like killing it too in these videos, chef’s kiss, 10s across the board! Definitely interested in your SMT thoughts!!

Goddamn pinoy's editing is so damn good 😂 Great video as usual Crystaahhl!! 🫶

Personally I don't quite agree with this list, but you have an interesting opinion on the franchise, so thank you for the video! Also, is there any chance that we get same tier list for RGG games like Yakuza and Judgment? That would be awesome!

@CrystAAHHL

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely will do that for Yakuza/Judgment franchise eventually!

@thehungryrabbit

Жыл бұрын

@@CrystAAHHL Hell yeah! We can't wait for that too

@leoultimaupgraded9914

Жыл бұрын

@@CrystAAHHL awesome! Been playing through the Judgment games recently and also watching your play through on them, and I love the story and the gameplay especially in Lost is amazing.

if we’re going to share opinions on the MCs, I honestly believe that Tatsuya was the one mc that got a really special place in my heart. In IS despite him being seen as the silent badass protagonist at first glance his whole journey left me SPEECHLESS about how well his whole backstory was portrayed. His whole bond with his friends, the arguing with Katsuya, the way he kept Jun’s lighter for years and the recollection of his memories was amazing. What got me the most is that he has his own worries about his future so he didn’t feel like an empty vessel for the player. You can clearly get an idea of him without him speaking it out for you. And in Eternal Punishment, though not being playable after half of the game and not being an mc anymore, my opinions stayed the same. He already set his own personality in the first game. Because he is such a good written character, you can treat him as your own character and his own character at the same time. I love him a bit too much

@wutduck1763

10 ай бұрын

Agreed. I won’t lie but he has to be my favorite character in the series. Which is crazy, because I’m not really a fan of most of the other Persona protags as characters (too much of blank slates for me to love). But his character and development is plain to see, even in IS. It’s tragic and uplifting at the same time, as is his ultimate fate. Wish more Persona fans realized just how interesting of a character he is, alongside Maya. Best protagonists of Persona, hands down.

@happe8216

10 ай бұрын

@@wutduck1763 TRUE. I wrote this comment before I finished EP completely (at least I think I didn’t finish it at that point) and let me just say Eternal Punishment’s end was just beautiful. Major spoilers for Eternal Punishment. I get kinda sad when people say the “innocent sin” was the friends meeting in alaya shrine 10 years ago. But I believe that the REAL innocent sin was Tatsuya’s refusal to forget about his friends yet still wishing them to move on, therefore making him a paradox. LITERALLY SECONDS BEFORE IS ENDED AND YOU FIND OUT ABOUT IT EP? goddamn thats good story telling. I genuinely believe that the fans should at least realize a protag isn’t supposed to be their own character. I would prefer a protagonist who is completely different than me than an empty place holder for the player. Best persona protagonist and my favorite character ever. (Btw love the Alice pfp I love him a lot too)

I love the Persona series and I just finished royal a few days ago and was literally in tears. A big part of my love for this series comes from your content

100% agree with you on the Persona 5/Royal take, I think the hate it gets because of its popularity is totally undeserved, easily the most all around fun game in the series.

@davidc.

Жыл бұрын

P3 and 4 fans are just pissy there favorite game isn't as popular. Sadly them doing that hurts peoples perspective of the other games.

@kmc012

2 ай бұрын

@@davidc. I 100% agree with both of you.

As an SMT fan and their spin-offs, Persona is the best spin-off turned series I have experienced. P4G was definitely my favorite for a long time until the release of P5R. I love how Atlus would make these games and their stories so fun to follow along, but the characters are- imo- better than the story as they help drive the plot to its conclusion for me. Finding you was such a breath of fresh air because you have the best commentary of your playthroughs. Your analysis of said games is also wonderful and how your views and arguments of these games being good and bad can challenge and even sway others. I appreciate you so much Crystal and look forward to the future 😊

I'm subbed but, don't have the bell on still got this on my front page lol Edit: watched the entire video, would love to see an SMT tier list also the main composer left atlus so we have no idea how persona and smt OST's will sound later on.

I thoroughly enjoyed hearing about your game ranking. Sincerely, since you're someone who has experienced all of the games and can give their thoughts and understand the pros and cons of each one without overly criticizing for the sake of depreciating joy/interest. In terms of Persona games, P4 is my personal favorite out of all of them. I first played it in high school (10 years ago) and I fell in love instantly. The small town vibes and Japanese countryside made me nostalgic because my family in Japan lives in a town that was (before renovations) extremely similar to Yaso-Inaba. And honestly, had I not played it, I probably wouldn't be in Japan right now. P4 motivated me to pursue Japanese studies in college so I could be closer to my family and now I teach out in the countryside of Japan. I live in my personal Inaba and can only smile and appreciate my life now whenever I play or listen to the P4 soundtrack.

I just got done playing p3p and I am IN LOVE with femc she is definitely my favorite protag and I really just enjoyed the game so much. I love the persona series so much it means the world to me and it makes me so happy to watch your videos I enjoy every one of them thank you Crystal

Great video Crystaahhl :). I remember watching you play Persona 3,4 and 5 on Twitch. My personal favorite is actually P4G, but that is probably because it was my first one. Thank you again for another video where it is pretty clear that your opinions are honest.

Before I reached the part in the vid where you said you want to do an SMT one, too I was already thinking I'd love to see your thoughts on them, too, 'cause you got some amazing takes.

Persona 5 will probably always be my favorite game of all time for nostalgia reasons. Back when I first played it fall of 2017 I just moved and entered high school so it entered my life at the perfect time. I always say you don't choose your favorite game your favorite game chooses you. It was the first game that actually made me tear up when I finished it, after 100+ hours with these characters it was REALLY hard to let go of them... so I played it over again. Persona 4 I also loved with all my heart and also teared up at the end but when I finished Persona 3, like two years ago... I think it was the first time I actually just sat in front of my computer crying... not just tearing up but actually crying over the ending. It wasn't a sad cry or really a happy cry... it was more like a "god damn it" type of cry if that makes sense? Like god damn, when Aigis asked "what am I doing" I was starting to tear up but then she slaps you with "You don't have to save the world to find meaning in life... Sometimes all you need is something simple, like someone to take care of" and shortly after Memories of You starts playing... how could you not feel something? If Persona 3 had the gameplay of Persona 5 I really feel like it would be in the top running for greatest JRPG of all time without contest. Please for all that is holy and right in this world let the remake rumors be real *huffs fifty bags of cope*

@guilherememe

4 ай бұрын

got news for ya

@snozer6966

4 ай бұрын

@@guilherememe It’s everything I wanted and then some.

Thank you so much for the wonderful content. It would bring me so much joy if you did a tier list of the Persona music.

For me, I loved Q2 more, I liked the unison attacks they added and the healing was much easier, it was also nice seeing them add more elements for the 3 and 4 characters

Literally got this recommended to me because I'm playing through the P3 remake you manifested here. Thank you kind citizen

Persona 4 is one of those games you've had to play at the right time during your life to love. Mostly around the teenage years.

@Gael-xp4fk

Жыл бұрын

Hard disagree Y’all Persona fans love to downplay P4G for no good reason it has as much cliché cringey stuff as P3 and 5 but those games get a free pass

@blackfrost5124

Жыл бұрын

@@Gael-xp4fk I like P5R over P4G because of the UI/Aesthetic, demon negotiation, fusions & dungeons are WAY BETTER, the ability to rank up social links whenever. None of this is objective as well. You're welcome.

@Gael-xp4fk

Жыл бұрын

@@blackfrost5124 all that other stuff is just fluff except dungeon design that’s the only thing of substance that P5 has over all the other games

@blackfrost5124

Жыл бұрын

@@Gael-xp4fk Fluff? A nice looking UI is extremely important part of any video game, especially if you're playing a game for hundreds of hours. P5 is praised for it's aesthic even Masahiro Sakurai made a video on it (check it out) and it's the main reason Joker got put into Smash, which mind you boosted Persona's popularity and made it mainstream.

@Gael-xp4fk

Жыл бұрын

@@blackfrost5124 yea a good Ui is cute and all but i don’t play video games just to stare at the ui’s

SMT thoughts for sure ! Great video !

I'd like to watch your ranking for SMT games though maybe playing the other SMTs like the Devil Survivor games or Digital Devil Saga might give more materials to work with?

I actually agree with every single ranking on your playlist. Sounds weird to say, but I really do. Honestly, if I hadn’t watched this video my rankings would be slightly different, but you made some really good points and I agree with them. Also, Fire Emblem tier list when?! All jokes aside I’m interested in seeing how you would rank the Fire Emblem franchise.

You got me with the low P5 bit, I was so shocked 😆. I haven't played the fighters or the dancers myself, but watched your play thoughs (holding off on Strikers as I do want to play it but somehow just haven't brought myself to it). That said I think I completely agree with your rankings, and while not quite things I thought of totally agree with the things you said about all of them. The only one I think I can add too is P5R. As much as I loved it I think it's the only one that suffers for not having a more adult cast since the story is way more integrated into the surrounding society than the previous titles. As far as I could personally come up with I think P5 would be twice as good if they just made them college students and the only part that really would need major rewriting is the minor with a record/Sojiro becoming your gaurdian angle. Even then I think the story could get way more compelling with the theme of societal reform from the perspective of an actual convict returning to society. Barely even need to change any of the characters to fit that too. Always love your Persona takes and wish you continued success going forward.

i was waiting so long for this lets goooo

Great tier list, I love the ultimate conclusion of every Persona game at least being a high quality game because I believe that wholeheartedly! I also believe that for SMT so I'd be very curious to see your take on that franchise as well!

I played Persona 5 Royal around 6 months ago and its some of the best gameplay I've ever experienced. I see people saying "I relate to akechi so much" or "Oh wow ann is so relatable" and stuff and that's what I love so much about the game. Every person who's played P5R relates to a different character. For me incase you were wondering I really relate to Ryuji in this game. He's a track runner who's injured and when he hit kamoshida everybody turned there back on him. I suffered a huge injury a while back in track and I missed out on lots of competition and I almost wanted to quit but in the end I knew it was my passion just like Ryuji. I've also always been a sidekick to my friends I've never considered myself the anime protagonist in any situation and I prefer to just be the Robin to my friend's batman or the Speedwagon to my friend's jonathan. Ryuji was the first confidant I maxed out and I think that was just ment to be. Long story short I fucking love Ryuji

Definitely interested in some SMT thoughts - you've managed to stay out of the weird Megaten hivemind so far, so a fresh perspective could be fun. I'd love to see some vlogs like the P1 manga one as you work your way through!

@macemaster5295

Жыл бұрын

She needs to play Strange Journey first.

Having experienced much of the persona series (Mostly cause of your channel lol) I can safely say that Persona 3 was the hardest a game had hit me in a long time. I often struggle with being vulnerable and opening up to people, and upon hitting the end of Akinari's social link, I felt myself crying before I'd even finished the post final boss scene with his mother. It made me realize I needed to be open with people because they or I might not see tomorrow for some reason or another. In that same vein, a lot of P4 had an emotional shot at me. But truly, I found myself fixated on the Strength social link, specifically Daisuke. I love him. I don't know why, but on my first run, I genuinely believed they were setting him up to be gay and interested in Kou. I finda found myself relating to a lot of his general demeanor and honestly, the social link, even if it wasn't what I expected. That social link hit so well I consider it my favorite in the game, even as a Kanji and Naoto enjoyer. To this day, when the option to acquire Zaou Gongen arrives, I take it. That persona and that social link had a strange effect on me. As for P2 and P5R and my experiences in both trying to play them and watching parts on the VOD channel. I hope to finish them myself someday. They seem like incredible games and I know it'll have it's effect. I already have a few faves from fandom interactions on the front of P5R, namely Yusuke (Neurodivergent Artist Gang). But overall, I'm just glad to have been around for the ride. Watching and playing these games has been a kickstart in my hobbies and well. Been around on this channel since I was just getting started in college. So It's been a surreal few years. I've loved being here for the DDLC, Danganronpa, Persona, SMT, Miitopia, and so many other gameplays. And unironically, it's you talking about dance that makes me want to learn at least some type of dance, someday. Hell I even considered (And tried) streaming. This comment is long enough, but I could keep rambling for hours. Thanks for the content, Crystal. I look forward to seeing what else comes.

I'm actually experiencing P3Fes via your twitch vods uploaded to youtube! It's actually way more enjoyable than I thought it would be. I think overall I still like P5 more than P4, but so far i think P3 is gonna also be better than P4 in my eyes. Imma keep watching.

Very based tier list. The only Persona games I haven’t played are the ones before P3, and this has helped inspire me to somehow get my hands on those games.

My personal favourite Persona game is, and by a long shot, Persona 4 Golden. This game came, when i needed it the most. I suffered from bullying in high school, and these persons got so much in my head that, it started me questioning about my tastes, personality and well... over my whole being, i was starting to really think i was being weird beacuse i had a passion for videogames, and my self-esteem was lowering even more and more, i didn't even want to keep drawing (wich i love still to this day), and i wasn't giving my best in school either, wich made my mom very angry and stressed. This came with me, getting ghosts of problems and expectations that i had to achieve to make, at least, my mom happy. Once that year ended, i had to redo the year, meet new people and i was devastated mentally. This kept going until 2020, where my eyes met Persona 4 Golden for PC, i've heard abour Persona before, and great things about it, so i gave it a try, but i never knew that, this game was about to save my life and turned it upside down forever. Something about the characters and their respective arc, stroke'd me so much, that i started revaluating everything that i have witnessed and lived before. When i was entering the last battle, i knew that finishing it was saying goodbye to the cast, i wasn't ready for it, but yet i finished it, and saying goodbye to them, was almost like saying it to one of your best friends of all time, i've passed so much time with these characters that i became attached to them. This game, taught me to not be ashamed of who i am, even with my flaws as a person, i can embrace them, and mold them to make me a better person. This game taught me that i shouldn't care what some stranger that doesn't know me thinks about me, and it also told me that my tastes, are not weird or wrong, they are completly normal, and i shoulnd't be ashamed for them. As time went on, my mind started to get more and more conscious and cleaner about this. I started to practive and give mor effort to my drawings, while also giving my 100% to High School, and now i'm graduated and tomorrow will be starting a new life in an university studying graphical design. For these reasons, Persona 4 Golden, not only is my favourite Persona game, but also my favourite game of all time 💛. P.S: Seeing you putting P4 in A tier felt like a gunshot through my heart LMAO, but i respect it

@Gael-xp4fk

Жыл бұрын

I will never understand why most of the Persona fan base dunk on P4 the most trust me it’s not just crystal plenty of other KZreadrs have her exact opinion and it never fails to baffle me when people downplay P4G

My girlfriend loves your videos and we had an hour long discussion about this one where I had to guess the rankings and she would smile and laugh so adorably each time I got it wrong. Thank you so much for indirectly giving me that. Made my entire week.

@CrystAAHHL

5 ай бұрын

that's actually really adorable lol!!

Did someone say "I love puzzles"??? Professor Layton is running at full speed in the background, lol A good tier-list! I really like how you explain the thought process and put games through the perspective of your personal experience,, and of course, everyone's experiences are different, that's why people like different games,,

My favourite was a hard pick between P4G and P5 then when they made P5R, that was it. The story, the banging soundtrack, the fact that JP Akechi made me cry right at then end BOY that man put in work!

I think I might be part of the 3% of population in the world that thinks P3P is the best persona game. I played all of them, including vanilla P4 and vanilla P5. From my POV experiencing persona 1 by yourself is a really great experience, I really loved the game. For my personal ranking, all of the persona 1 to 5 are S tier games, they're just different from every other kind of RPG o JRPGs (but that comes from the perspective of someone that played the games multiple times, I played Persona 1 two times (1º route and ice queen route), Persona 2 IS two times, Persona 2 EP two times, Persona 3 nearly 6 times, Persona 4 vanilla two times and Golden 2 times, Persona 5 vanilla 2 times and Royal 2 times, so.. well, and I didnt even skipped a single dialogue, every playtrough was like 130+hs of gameplay. Well, my personal ranking is, from my favorite to least favorite (altough all of them are S tier to me), is: 1º Persona 3. (P3P is my fav game of all time btw) 2º Persona 2 Lis and EP (this mainly comes from persona 2 EP) 3º Persona 4. 4º Persona 5. 5º Persona 1.

@Gael-xp4fk

Жыл бұрын

Respect for u not putting P5 over 4

6:17 watching this in the future, lol

Really good tier list, I think most of this is what I probably feel of this games as well. And I got to give you even more points for being honest and don't fear the possible hate on your Persona 4 opinion, of course is a really controversial opinion, and I disagree bcs 3, 4 and 5 are evenly matched in my S tier ranking. BUT that's why I like to watch your playthroughs and videos bcs you are very honest. Nice video Crystal

I love how you brought up Joker and how he is more than just the self insert silent protag, they gave him huge character depth and all that jazz. Compared to p4 and p3 male protags at least.

@Just_Liqourice

Жыл бұрын

I think in the game they are all bland

@theotakufangirl

Жыл бұрын

@@Just_Liqourice that’s a dumb opinion 🤣

@Just_Liqourice

Жыл бұрын

@@theotakufangirl That is factual

@theotakufangirl

Жыл бұрын

@@Just_Liqourice then why say it LOL

@Just_Liqourice

Жыл бұрын

@@theotakufangirl What action that one of the protagonists takes would the other two not take? They are identical. If Yu was in 3 or 5, the story is the same, that applies for all the games.

my first persona experience was p4 for playstation 2. i was 13/14 (29 now) at the time and i played this game while having a hard time (divorced parents, bullying at school, diagnosed mental illness) and p4 helped me through a lot. after school i played this game like a drug. i was kinda addicted to it, because i really loved the characters, story and gameplay. i annoyed my best friend with it until they loved the music of persona itself even though they dont play the franchise. p5 is in my opinion the perfect game for everything, but p4 is still the bottom of my heart my favourite game because of my personal experiences. it healed my inner child for a time and it helped me through my hardest times.

I think my personal list would be P4G > P2:IS > P5R > P3Fes/Portable > PQ > P5S > Arena > P2: EP> P4D > Ultimax > P3D> P5D > Q2 > P1. P4 still has my favorite overall cast, S. Links included. It's also the only game to have ever made me tear up a bit. While the P2's are much closer than my list would have you think, I've only played the psx version of EP, which has really hurt the experience for me. Katsuya is one of my favorite characters in the entire series though. I'm probably the most critical when it comes to P5, but that's only because of how strongly I resonate with it's themes, which I feel it fumbles with a little bit. I also kind of dislike how similarly the confidants play out, which is why I love Toranosuke's confidant. Maruki is still my favorite human antagonist, even if I enjoy Adachi as a villain more, if that makes sense. P3 being the lowest of the "new" Persona's mostly has to do with gameplay over anything else. And while it still has some of the best S. Links (The dying author, the old couple, Aigis) in the whole series, it's also got some of the worst one's too (Kenji, the fat cultist kid, the rival from another school). Also being forced to cheat on your gf's if you're playing as a dude sucks, and actively ruined the Answer for me. For the Arena's I mostly just preferred how Arena 1 did it's story, multiple characters getting to be the MC, over Ultimax's, it's mostly just Labrys and Yu, with a little bit of the new characters to spice things up. PQ2 not getting a dub hurt it more than I thought it would. So much of the charm of Q1 was some the dumb thing's your party would say during battle and around the maps. Also, yeah the maps seemed less well thought out, and overall less interesting. While I understand your reasoning for preferring 3 and 5 dancing over 4, I really enjoyed the story in DAN. I also feel like P5D had the weakest songs overall. Nothing as bad as the Mass Destruction remix, but also nothing that really stood out either. I don't think there's much to say about P1, it's got cool ideas, but it's age shows a lot more than the 2 duology. I'm pretty sure you started with Royal, so I wonder if that affected how much you like Akechi. In vanilla he didn't have a Social Link, it was all crammed into his regular scenes, which wasn't great for him. Royal, and you especially, have let me appreciate him more, but the 3 years of him being kinda mid hurt my enjoyment of him as a character.

@RocketSlime

7 ай бұрын

P3s story suffers from really bad pacing a big of why is that not much happens until the last quarter, and the cast feels like after their big moments they get nothing to do much, the villian group also is underutilized, tartarus also becomes quickly tedious and the mc dying means a game over is fucking awful. Social links for the cast are also really hit or miss and even with them the cast feels sorta lacking

@RocketSlime

7 ай бұрын

For me p2s casts gain better overall development and are paced out the best in the persona series their closeness and interplay is genuinely fantastic too

I have only played persona 5, i first played the vanilla version (coz my brother lent it to me saying "you'll love this!") and completed that then went onto buying and playing persona 5 Royal, twice. What i found surprising and i don't know how many other people did the same as me, but persona 5 royal does register persona 5 vanilla saves and while its not a complete new game + you still have to do all your skills and confidants again. It does give you some help early game with some money and some items if i recall correctly. I thought this was a cool feature. I do intend to try at least 3 and 4 someday but i'm really happy with my experience of persona 5 royal and would rank it very high on my favourite games of all time list

My favorite Persona game is Q2. Both it and Tales of Berseria mean a lot to me because of the messages their stories send. Also, while the dungeons in Q2 aren’t as good as Q1’s, the battle system was SO refined, and did a much better job of integrating Persona’s mechanics into Etrian Odyssey. (By the way, you should check out Tales of Berseria! It’s a really great game that I think you’ll love!)

I'd say for me personally that Persona 3 has the best cast because of how different they feel compared to all the other casts. I think Junpei in particular has one of the best arcs of a best friend type character in Persona games. He doesn't immediately treat you as a natural leader. He realistically has his own doubts about that, which makes him feel a lot more real than Yosuke and Ryuji in my opinion. Another character to me that really stands out is Shinji. I firmly believe that Persona has not created a character that can rival Shinji in any of its later or earlier installations. Shinji encapsulates all of the themes that Persona 3 tackles and his main story and is genuinely one of the most well written stories I've ever come across. Also I think that the cast's personas Awakening with the story are much better than the social link Awakenings in 4 and 5. Case in point being Akihiko I think the best way you could mediate the system is have the personas awaken with the story but maybe make the rank 10 like a combat bonus so there's an incentive to do The Confidant but the character still grows on their own.

i would LOVE an SMT video from you !!!!

P5 is not only the best persona game I've played, but the best game i've played period. It's the only game where I shed a tear at some point... many tears...... okay I cried.

I watch Crystaahhl videos for the edits. It’s top notch 🤌

Ooooh, you GOT ME with that thumbnail and the intro! So i DID watch the whole video just to see where you put P5R :P That clickbait, it worked on me!

Personally speaking my favorite game in the Persona series is a little known title called "Aegis the First Mission". Now, I've never actually played the game since it is literally lost media, but there is a fully translated playthrough of it that was preserved through Nico Nico and has been reuploaded on KZread, and I will say that I personally did really fall in love with the characters and the story told in the game, even if it is incredibly short, and similar to the Q games it doesn't really get brought up again (even if it absolutely should). It's a game that stars Aigis as the protagonist and has you complete her training and a small mission where she eliminates Shadows on Yakushima Island, meeting a few new characters that only appear in this game. Yuu Kimijima is definitely the highlight among them, Aigis's creator and someone very important to the story who has her own emotional story and conflict going on throughout. I've basically made it my personal mission (haha) to make the game as well known as possible, so that more people can appreciate it and make art of it! It's hard to say if we'll ever be able to play the game again, but after the Megami Tensei LBNT trilogy got a Switch and Steam rerelease in Japan, another Atlus MegaTen game previously in an identical situation, I've felt there's some hope! It might not be your thing, but I definitely really love the game.

@Tasty_Tango45

Жыл бұрын

ATFM isn’t necessarily my favorite persona game, but I think it’s a crime that pretty much every mobile persona phone game from back in the day is lost to time (P1’s, P2 IS, P2 EP, and the numerous P3 Ones), especially considering they were full fledged products with new stories and content. I doubt Atlus even has the codes/program for them anymore but I would die to see them somehow resurface.

Instantly hyped if you do a SMT tier list

I have only played both P4G and P5R but if I have to choose both, as much as I love P4G, I will choose P5R for the impact it made in my life. The Third semester just hits really hard for me, it asks the players interesting questions. Even put the characters that have developed throughout vanilla and fleshed them out even more by giving the lives they all wished for. It's very interesting because trying to make them come to their senses feels like a gut punch, especially for Futaba. I was inspired with their resolve, How they will not let others decide their lives for them especially Akechi, even knowing that he'll die if he doesn't get along with Maruki's world. I also finished P5R at the perfect time of my life as well, I was going through "losing a friend" and I kept on wishing that things just go back to the way they were that's why I was so stuck on the past. Seeing the cast also overcome this and choosing once again to move on hits so very hard for me. I will never ever forget my P5R experience, it was truly a great game for me imo.

And here we are getting P3R. I am absolutely looking forward to watching you play through it.❤️

now we're gonna wait for SMT game ranking from crystaahhl xD

An SMT tier list would be cool. I recommend looking up what’s considered SMT tho since a lot of the spinoffs only had the SMT moniker in the West to help with sales and advertising (like Persona back then)

@macemaster5295

Жыл бұрын

Crystaahhl is talking mainline, not spinoffs like DDS and DS.

Honestly SMT thoughtz sounds alright, but I'd be interested in something like Fire Emblem thoughts. I know you've played a lot of the older ones so that could be kinda cool

ive been a subscriber for a while but i haven't really touched many of your videos, but for some reason this video just scratched an autistic itch in the back of my brain and i now have this huge urge to binge all of your persona content help me

@CrystAAHHL

Жыл бұрын

I'm honored and hope you enjoy the content!

There's technically 1 Persona game you missed, Persona's inspiration "Shin Megami Tensei: if...", of which itself was inspired by the movie "If...." starring Malcolm McDowell. Pretty much everything Persona related started in that game. I'd recommend at least watching an english translated playthrough.

I’m glad that P5R was my first persona game. I literally clapped once I had finished it. I did like P4G a lot as well but holy moly Teddie’s constant squeaky dialogue during combat was giving me migraines.

@bezmagica

4 ай бұрын

There's a reason I would mute the navigators

Amen! P5R is so good! it’s so emotional with every conflict how it effects a person cognition and mind. When playing the game I was reminded of my psychology on why people who are depressed inflict harm of themselves, because they cant physically feel the pain but mentally and I think that’s the worst feeling anyone can have. Especially the 3rd semester hits the soul where you go against two sides and then throw away your mask hits it’s a thing of beauty.

Royal in S TIER CRYSTAL?! Take my like.

I know everyone's going to be talking about it, but I agree, Persona 5 Royal really is a masterpiece of a game. The moral conflict of the third semester, and the way that despite everything that's clearly wrong it comes from someone doing their best to do a good thing just hits me so deeply. Like, to me, this game is genuinely the best writing of morally grey characters and concepts I've seen, not to mention how it encourages you to look tragedy in the eye and keep on going despite it. Idk, this game and this series as a whole has touched and changed me very deeply, so I really like hearing about how other people have had similar experiences.

Now we need the Rankings List of the games age ratings

I'm eager for you to talk about SMT mainline games :3 also yeah agree persona 5 is the ebst one. great dungeons and gameplay, bringng back the negotiation mechanic that I think the franchise is defined by, great charactes (even if I think somebeats and like oen or two confidant stories beign pretty crappy in some aspects) aswell as a fantastic story and villains. the persona 2 duology i sadly never got to pay but everything I now about it sounds REALLY cool ebtween the reality altring rumours and the mystery behind what's going on, the fact the duology actually gives the protags personality via the fact they're playable in different games and I like Nyarlethotep as a villain. Persona 4 is in hindsight pretty weak, i agree yeah. The mystery is pretty not the best (especially since its kinda not really a good mystery with actual clues or such and you jsut kinda have to stumble onto the truth and only like two people are actually killed by the actual killer and then the game tries to give him some weird redemption maybe when he helps you find the true mastermind? what?) and the cast can be REALLY, REALLY way too fucking mean to other at points (especially yosuke and chie, and ESPECIALLY the fuckign summer camp event). Its alrght and at the time it popualrised persona for many and got people to get interested in SMT but YEAH its not the BEST. I have a soft spot for Persona 1 because of its more horror themes. Its also itneresting to be the only Persona game to not have a deity be the ultimate villain (until P2 kinda retconned Nyarlethotep into being involved in hindsight) with the villains being a power hungry man and a the eprsonification of a girl's suicidal depression and nihilism.

Just got recommended this video and I think it's a pretty solid list. I don't think P3P is a lesser experience than FES though and didn't finish Royal yet but it sure was great until the point I played. I also agree very much with P4, the more I think about it, the less it has things to think about plotwise. It's done in a pretty good way, but at the end it doesn't feel as misteryous and full of symbolism as the others.

I watched the p3 movies when I was a very bitter, depressed, and grieving person back in highschool. Those movies changed me for the better and I might not even be here today without them. I will always owe the Persona series everything for that.

My favorite is Persona 5 Royal, my best friend Azrael got me to play the game and I absolutely loved my experience playing. I loved the storyline, the character development, and the palaces, I am currently playing it for the 4th time. Hopefully I can explore more things that I have missed the first 3 times. You and I definitely had a very similar experience with Akechi. My friend Azrael told me that I would like him and that he would grow on me. That wasn't the case at first. I went through an absolute rollercoaster with him. I absolutely hated him at first, then he impressed me with the whole outsmarting the system during Sae's Casino Palace, then I hated him again, I think I was more confused and surprised during the 3rd semester with him. It was until during my second time playing was when Akechi finally grew on me. My friend Azrael said I told you so. While he was absolutely growing on me, I decided to be him for Halloween 2 years ago and now I'm going to be him for one of the days at the convention I'm going to in May with my friend Taylor. 😊😊😊😊

I'm so glad she spread those rumors about P3 Remake. It took 10 months, but thank you Crystaahhl!

Is there a link to the Sunset Bridge remix at the conclusion segment? Loved the video!

I am surprised that our tastes are pretty much the same. What you said about The Answer was specially shocking to me, because I have the exact same opinion and I literally never hear anyone saying good things about it. Also, finding Persona fans that actually played Persona 2 and enjoyed it is extremely rare! Honestly, I applaud you for giving every Persona game a chance, instead of just playing P4 and P5 and thinking that it's all the series got to offer, like most Persona "fans".

I’ve only finished P5R and am planning to play P4G and P3P, but wow am I pretty invested in the franchise. The story and characters are 100% the highlight for me, I loved all the special team finishers they got, and despite knowing how most of the story was gonna go beforehand, seeing it actually unfold blew my mind, especially Akechi and the Third Semester Very excited for newer entries, and possibly even P5X as despite how weird it feels them kinda redoing P5 but with new characters, it still looks like a good time and I cant wait to see what they do with it, and hopefully ill be able to play it Also I do not like the fusion system, but thats neither here or there

Would love to hear your thoughts on SMT so far - especially if you end up playing SMT 1, 2, if, and/or Strange Journey.

When I rate/rank games, I try to keep in mind the balance between story, characters, themes, gameplay, and art direction. However, I’ve never been the best at putting that into practice and I typically favor games with the most fun gameplay and my favorite characters, rather than those with weaker gameplay but stronger stories. So with that in mind, here’s my ranking of the games I’m familiar with: 10. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona (C Tier) • A game with a very solid story; one of the best stories told through video games at the time. But the actual gameplay is really bad by modern standards. And I know it’s not fair to critique a 25 year old game on today’s standards, but it just doesn’t hold up anymore. 9. Persona 2: Innocent Sin (C Tier) • A game with a better cast of characters and improved gameplay over the first game, but still outdated by today’s standards. I feel terrible about rating it low mainly for being older, but that’s just what it comes down to for me. 8. Persona 5 Strikers (C Tier) • I actually like the gameplay and I think it goes without saying that I like the characters. My main issue with the game is that there’s no consequence to going into a Jail, leaving when you get low on HP/SP, and going back in immediately to continue from where you left off. It makes the game so unsatisfying to go through because there’s no challenge or fear of running out of time to complete the Jail. And on top of that, I never felt very connected to the story, which leaves the game pretty low on my list. 7. Persona 2: Eternal Punishment (B Tier) • Better story, themes, and gameplay than Innocent Sin. The fresh take on the characters and the more in-depth themes and story put this one above P5S for me. 6. Persona Q2 (B Tier) • I like the dungeon exploration gameplay and I love having all the party members from the modern Persona games interact with each other. But, yes, the dungeons themselves are less interesting than they were in the first game. 5. Persona Q (B Tier) • Very similar to PQ2, with the added pro of having better dungeons, but the con of being pre-P5 and missing all those characters. Gameplay is better though, so it gets the edge 4. Persona 3 Portable (A Tier) • This was a tough placement for me. I love being able to control the party members’ actions, but I really miss the animated cutscenes and exploring the overworld. The FeMC route is a lot of fun and I prefer her Social Links over MMC’s. Plus, the Yukiko cameo was the perfect fan service moment in my opinion. I think it’s just missing a few too many things that keeps it from being the definitive version of P3. 3. Persona 3 FES (A Tier) • Despite not having the FeMC route or direct command party members, it is the definitive P3 experience. Beautiful fully animated cutscenes, an explorable overworld, and of course The Answer epilogue. 2. Persona 4 Golden (A Tier) • The story and themes of this game aren’t as strong as they are in P3 (I definitely cried the most from P3), but I much preferred the cast. Narukami might be my favorite Persona protagonist depending on the day, and Yosuke’s my boi. Kanji is precious and one of my favorite character tropes (tough guy who’s really a softie and eventually embraces that softer side). Yukiko and Chie really feel like best friends that have history together. Naoto is wonderful, too, basically having the same arc as Kanji but with different roots and reasoning. And Nanako is the sweetest, purest, most adorable sunshine child of all time and I would throw hands with God to protect her (and I guess I have). Oh, and Teddie exists, too, I guess. 1. Persona 5 Royal (S Tier) • I mean, do I have to explain? Persona 5 Vanilla was at the top of my list even before P5R existed, and Royal just added to the greatness of the original. My favorite cast in a Persona game; my favorite art direction in any game; my favorite soundtrack of any game; and the best gameplay I’ve ever experienced in a turn-based RPG. Not to mention the incredible story and absolute endless amount of content/ways to spend time outside of Palaces. I have never once felt bored with this game, which is mind-blowing for a 100+ hour game. By this point, I don’t think it’s surprising to reveal that P5/P5R is my favorite game of all time and it’s not even close

I like how your thoughts on P5R can basically be applied to anyone's favorite. Mine is P4G and I feel the same, it will always be that experience that sticks with me and was so memorable 15:31

Finally a youtuber that shares my opinion with p4g

Getting caught up on the use of Shadow loop at the tail end of this video, I’ve seen videos that show this music get taken down, but I’m guessing in the context of it being a backing track to another video it’s ok to use, just asking cause I plan to use this in a video of mine

These are some really good takes ngl. The dancing games as rhythm games especially was a great point; I grew up with music and music theory is a major interest of mine, so most rhythm games are almost too easy for me, but the dancing games have really challenging stuff!! Also SO happy you love P3FES. It's a super important game and wonderful representation of grief in gaming.

My first experience of Persona 3 was recently with Portable. Persona 3 is now my favourite game in the franchise, for similar reasons. What I'm trying to say is that the story still hits ridiculously hard even without the cutscenes. Very hyped to play p3fes and the remake to see these moments with actual cutscenes.

i am biased rn because p4g was my first game and i just finished it recently. going through p5r right now tho! excited

I'm a pretty new and "inexperienced" Persona fan, I've only played a handful of the games (and none of the definitive versions, shoot me). But I'll rank the ones I've played because why not. *1: -- Persona 4 --* P4 is still my favorite JRPG. Its gameplay is a huge step up from Persona 3 thanks to the more varied dungeons and the different way it handles a time-oriented structure (more on that later), party members feel more balanced, and you can *actually control them.* But what makes Persona 4 stick in my mind is the characters, themes, and setting. The Investigation Team is my favorite "hero group" of the games because they feel the most...earnest I suppose? They're all openly working towards the same goal with no ulterior motives, they always work together and never fight, and they come across as an ideal friend group. Kanji is one of my favorite characters in fiction, and not two days go by without remembering Mitsuo and reminding myself of what might happen if I let my video game obsession get the better of me. I also really resonate with the game's themes of never ignoring the truth even if it's painful, and that acknowledging your own weaknesses makes you stronger. I think Persona 4 is what instilled in me a value for authenticity and sincerity. Lastly, I love Inaba as a setting, but I think I'm biased because it reminds me of the small town that I lived in while studying in Japan and makes me nostalgic for the happiest time of my life. I firmly believe that Persona 4 is a fantastic entry title for anyone wanting to get into Persona or the JRPG genre. *2: -- Persona 5 --* P5 is great, but P4 ranks just a bit higher for me. I prefer the dungeon design, art style, and general gameplay of Persona 5, but I think I have more complaints story-wise. The Phantom Thieves have a super interesting "gimmick" and a very relatable cause, and I love the idea of them all being strangers to one another that find common ground and become an extremely close-knit group of friends. As the thieves add new members, it felt like so much more than just having another party member to use, but having a new companion joining your cause and sharing your joys and burdens. My problem with the Phantom Thieves is their dynamics with each other. I love the one Joker and Ryuji have because it starts the overarching theme of the group; strangers meet, are initially suspicious of each other, learn that they have a lot in common after all, and decide to help each other about. But every other dynamic I just found obtrusive and quirky for the sake of being quirky. Morgana is horny for Ann for no reason, he treats Ryuji like crap for no reason, Futaba calls Yusuke a weird nickname for no reason, and Makoto and Haru have no lasting dynamic with anybody. Even though the Phantom Thieves are fantastic as individual characters, I think as a group they're kind of weak. Also, I think the alternate-reality setting rather undermines the story's central theme of standing up to oppression. I find it a little hard to be inspired by the Phantom Thieves when the reason they accomplish what they do is because they can access a supernatural world where they fight cartoonishly evil versions of their oppressors using psychic demons and magic powers and make said oppressors grovel at their feet. P5 leans way harder into the "fantasy" side of urban fantasy, and that can hurt the relatability a bit. P4 also uses a supernatural world, but the Shadows are symbolic of the heroes facing and overcoming their own internal anxieties, instead of indirectly resolving an external problem through what's essentially a power fantasy (except for Futaba's and Sae's Palaces). But hey, it's a really, really cool power fantasy. Overall, Persona 5 is an amazing game, but it's not without some things that could be improved upon. *3: -- Persona Q2 --* I was addicted to Q2 when I first started playing it. The five-person party was so much fun and allowed for a lot of strategic options for combat, the Labyrinths' aesthetics reminded me of the variety and symbolism that P5's Palaces have, and I loved the simple idea of three games' heroes all meeting and interacting. Even the chibi art style grew on me after I initially hated it. But then I got to the third Labyrinth, and by then the difficulty was ramping up, the party was getting *insanely* bloated with new characters that I was never going to use, and it was getting harder to manage two Personas on every active character instead of several Personas on just the protag. Then I lost my save data, and I haven't touched the game since. So I haven't actually finished the game, but I enjoyed it for most of the time I played it. I bought Q1 right before the eshop closed but haven't played it yet, so I'm hoping playing that will motivate me to start Q2 again. *4: -- Persona 5 Strikers --* I haven't finished this one yet either, I've only gotten to the third Jail. The only other Warriors game I've played is Hyrule Warriors (probably my favorite Wii U game), and I was expecting something similar to that. But the two games are pretty much worlds apart. In fact I hesitate to call P5S a Warriors game, because it's really more like an action RPG with Warriors-like combat. Presently it's the story that's getting me through Strikers. The parts of P5's characterization that I disliked are written much better in Strikers, and the road trip setting feels perfect for the Phantom Thieves. I think I'd be enjoying the gameplay a lot more if I didn't have to deal with the shoddy friendly AI and if the new Fusion mechanics weren't so tedious with grinding up weak Personas. It's a 6/10 for me. *5: -- Persona 3 FES -- RANT INCOMING* No offense to P3 fans, but this has got be the one game that I just do not understand why it's so beloved (well, it's fighting Kingdom Hearts 1 for that position I suppose). If Strikers sat at B tier, P3 would be in D tier. I found neither the gameplay nor the story of P3 compelling. Tartarus is one of the dullest and most monotonous dungeons I've ever experienced, and the inability to directly control your party just kills the combat for me. When I got to the first Full Moon Event and saw it take place on a moving monorail, I thought "great, give me more of that!" then the love hotel dungeon came along and I was like "yeah that was also a cool and unique dungeon, give me more of that!" and then there were no more Full Moon dungeons, just boss fights, and piss-easy ones at that. Since Full Moon Events are when the story progresses, it felt like the whole game was just waiting until it's time to advance the story (That's as opposed to what P4 and P5 do, where you're actually managing your time before a deadline instead of just passing time until something interesting happens). That wouldn't be so bad if the things you can do in the meantime were interesting, but holy moley are they anything but. The alternative to grinding in Tartarus is to do social links, but P3 has some of the worst social links in the series. The only ones I remember even being enjoyable are the Sun, Strength, and Tower links (Hermit's fine too, but you can only do it one day of the week and it takes up the whole day); everyone else I found either boring or straight-up unlikable (the Chariot link sticks in my mind for encouraging you to enable the guy's self-destructive habits). And it's all done in Iwatodai, a generic city with nothing to do in it. As for the major characters, I'm very indifferent towards them. Shinjiro is a tough-on-the-outside, sweet-on-the-inside badass and prompted the only time I felt an emotional connection to the story, I resonate with some of Junpei's troubles (plus he's hilarious), and Koromaru is a good boi, but aside from them...meh? Akihiko's connection to Shinjiro saves him from obscurity, Ken I just thought was an angsty brat, and I don't remember any of the girls except maybe Mitsuru (I even forget Yukari's name half the time). The final act of the story focuses almost entirely on Aigis and Ryoji, who I didn't find interesting either. At least Nyx is a neat twist on the "personification of death" trope, in that she's an unstoppable unavoidable entity much like death itself, but the "humanity desires death" thing doesn't come through as strongly as P4's and P5's "desires of humanity". By the end of it I was on autopilot trying to finish P3 just so I can say I finished it. I didn't even bother with The Answer because the idea of doing any more Tartarus made me want to die. All of this said, I think P3's themes of mortality and deciding for yourself the value of your own life were great choices but could have been more present in the narrative. Aside from that...I guess I like the music? But not as much as other Persona games...humph. TL;DR Persona 4 is phenomenal, Persona 5 is also amazing but more flawed in the story department, Q2 started strong but lost steam towards the end, Strikers I could take or leave, and Persona 3 FES was largely unbearable with a few grains of gold, and I wish I could understand the appeal. UPDATE 1/29/24: Now I've played some of Q1 and Tactica, but not very much (still on the first dungeon/kingdom of each). So far, Q1 goes between Q2 and Strikers (it's pretty similar to Q2 but not as interesting thematically), and Tactica goes either slightly above or below Strikers (I like Strikers' writing and story better, but I prefer Tactica's gameplay)

@Gael-xp4fk

11 ай бұрын

I’m right there with you on your take about P3, I’m also baffled how it’s generally regarded as the best persona within the community and I’m even more baffled how P4 (which is also my favorite) is generally regarded as the worst in the series, I feel like when it comes to P3 so many people dismiss the extremely boring middle section of the game and only remember their fond memories about the climactic ending with nyx

@averysmalman8191

11 ай бұрын

@@Gael-xp4fk Yeah, Nyx was a bright spot at the end at least. I like that there's build-up to the fight instead of just coming out of nowhere like other Persona final bosses. But P4 as the worst of the series? The only things I can think of are some uneven difficulty, some later plot twists, and Teddie in general. But I'll take that over P3's dullness

@Gael-xp4fk

11 ай бұрын

@@averysmalman8191 I know people despise Teddie but I don’t even mind him his jokes don’t irk me like it does to others

@hardcoregamer739

8 ай бұрын

I know that this is 3 months old so u may never see this but I'll give u my opinion and I've seen a lot of videos and Reddit posts generally have the same sentiments. Firstly my favorite game of all time is P3 and the ranking of persona games goes as follows: P3Fes, P5R, P4G, P1 I have yet to play P2 but I plan to soon. The reason why I and a lot of people put P4 closer to the bottom of the list and some put it below Persona 2 which I don't know about since I've yet to play it is as follows: 1) The overall combat is a big step down aside from ONE thing which is when u fuse a persona u get to select the skills it inherits instead of the coin toss in p3, but other than that everything is either a downgrade or they settled for being the same and for a sequel that's still considered a downgrade. What I'm talking about goes as follows: They copied the enemies directly from P3 and since I played p5, then p3, then p4 I felt the laziness extra hard in this case they settled for what was already present which is severly dissapointing, to just copy-paste the enemies from the previous game when u have multiple years of development is beyond lazy, the second point is the music while tartarus is nothing special there were some songs in p4 that actually annoyed me specifically Kanji's dungeon for the first time in all of my time playing persona games I TURNED THE MUSIC OFF cuz it was that grating (now paradise is an absolute certified banger) and there were a handful of other dungeons that had mediocre music in them, thirdly they cheaped out and just streamlined physical damage to just one attribute ONE, that further removed complexity and just dumbed down the experience, thirdly and possibly the worst offender of it all is the fact that the dungeons are just worse and u may disagree as this is quite subjective but hear me out, in p4 all u do is walking in long corridors meet enemies smack, rinse and repeat thats it, no stealthing no strategizing no planning movement it's just long corridors and thats it as opposed to p3 when u actually could see inside the rooms through the walls planning out your movements waiting for the enemies to turn around to run past them, u actually could bait the enemies and outrun them, u had the upper and lower levels giving more diversity instead of it jus being one level, in p4 u couldn't outrun the enemies they were laser focused and could see u from a mile away as well as they had the ability to hit u from super far away making engaging in battle a toss of the coin of if u can hit them before they hit u. So to summarize the points in combat the enemies were directly copied from the previous game, the dungeon music us mostly subpar, the mechanics such as physical damage was dumbed down, and the dungeon crawling was streamlined to just simple crawling through long boring corridors, and the enemy AI is way to extreme. Next is the overall narrative I find it incredibly jarring and uncomfortable how we have the happiest group of teenagers with the brightest setting in the franchise and we're supposed to be chasing down a serial killer like the dicotomy is enough to give anyone whiplash one moment we're having fun in the food court and another we see a new murder victim, the other problem is there's way too little investigation done by the "INVESTIGATION TEAM" I mean what do they actually do other than meeting together every now and again sharing information that everyone on planet earth knows trying to come up with outlandish ideas with no proof reaching no where rinse and repeat until naoto joins and then pretty much after that the plot finally starts moving, so for the first like 6 months ingame we're just walking in circles doing nothing and knowing nothing not until we literally get into the paradise dungeon, if this serial killer was in real life the "INVESTIGATION TEAM" would be no different than any other group of normal people getting together and gossiping about what they heard, they do NO investigation(like questioning or surveying), have NO special information or leads honestly calling them "investigation team" is like calling Junpei "Ace detective". I've already touched on this a little but let me elaborate the tone of this game is nothing if not jarring for a game that has the premise of a "group of teenagers banding together to uncover the mystery behind a brutal serial murder case" It feels nothing like that and should more of a "group of teenagers get to understand each other and help support one another through their struggles as a mysterious murder case unfurls in the process", and that is by far and away my biggest gripe with this game the tone just does NOT work. At the very least the biggest selling point and positive of this game is the character interactions and inner storylines of every character, it's nothing short of perfect and all of them are beyond incredible (minus Teddy that character will forever be a blemish on the cast) the inner struggles is gripping and relatable, the resolutions the dynamic, the care they show is believable everything is amazing, the only small tiny nitpick about their relationship is I don't think it's realistic for a group of people to get SOOO close in such a short amount of time I mean they feel like they've known each other for years. I want to let anybody who reads this know that I still absolutely FUCKIN love p4 the fact that it's beneath p3 and p5 doesn't mean that it's anything less than an absolutely FUN, EMOTIONAL, and HEART GRIPPING

@cristianoducceschi3547

6 ай бұрын

​@@hardcoregamer739 Couldn't have said it better myself