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I MADE A ROOKIE MISTAKE FABRICATING MY NEW FRAME ~ EP 9
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I am not new to fabricating, but I am new to frame fabrication. This is a new type of welding and building and i'm taking it as it comes and trying to do my best. However, I have made a pretty big mistake in this video and you'll see what i'm talking about... let me know if you think It's garbage or if it's salvageable.
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@deannichols3501
Жыл бұрын
You are doing great !!!
@cindeemarie3521
Жыл бұрын
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I'll say this, I work in a manufacturing facility and your welds look better than a lot of the welds I see on a daily basis.
@Trents.garage
Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
It's custom work, there isn't any right or wrong way to do it, it's basically your art form. You don't even need body mounts if you don't want them. The good thing is it's all metal, you can weld anything you want onto anything you want. At the end it's your own creation.
Trent, the only way to keep the frame straight in a garage build like this is to side plate both sides of each rail and stitch weld alternating back and forth to keep the heat distributed evenly. I have a very serious suggestion for you. Since the one frame rail has such a curve, build the other side exactly the same way before you put it in the truck, so you have symmetry, and cut all your cross members to fit. If you put in the tacked rail and build everything, I’m afraid you will be shocked to find that the entire chassis has racked when you go back and fully weld the side plating, I guarantee you it will warp also. It just happens, there is nothing you can do to stop it. Then when you put it back under the truck everything will be a little off. There is an old saying. Learn from the mistakes of others, life’s too short to make them all yourself. I’ve learned the hard way.
It sure takes gumption to do what you’re doing. I know that these issues are driving you nuts, but most people would never even attempt this. So you’re much better than most for giving it a go.
😊 Trent your persistence and innovation are always inspiring, whether it’s this truck build, or a challenge with the garage, or pulling someone out of the snow. You keep going, it’s who you are-with every project you gain so much knowledge. You’re an interesting man and fun to spend time with you, Brandon, and Allie. Love you all 🥰
Mechanic tips! The chassis being slightly out of square will affect wheel alignment! You can't do an alignment with factory specs, but you can measure the front toe with a measuring tape! You could try pushing out the right front body mount with a hydraulic bottle jack and a 4"x4" section of wood!
@annelowry357
Жыл бұрын
From someone that knows nothing. Thank you so much for your constructive criticism from someone that actually knows something!
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@Trents.garage
Жыл бұрын
😎🤘🏼
I have no right to judge. I am amazed by the things you accomplish. Your knowledge and ambition to take on such a task with all your other jobs floors me. You have a wonderful team backing you. Best of luck.
As a retired carpenter, never let fear or common sense get in your way. Done is beautiful...!! Rock on....
Trent, You can use what you have. Just cut a few pieces to go in between your frame rails, to either push it out or to pull it in. Then as you progress to your cross members you can cut the tacks and the cross members will keep it where it's supposed to be. Little more work but very doable.
Trent, you need to stop doubting yourself and give yourself credit for the knowledge and talent you have! You're much better than you think. Stop and give yourself a pat on the back for those of us that think you're doing a terrific job! Your welds look great. I love Trent's Garage. You keep things interesting. 👍👍👍
Trent, good job. It's called a custom job for a reason. You're adapting to new challenges at every turn. Frustrating as it is, your ability to make things work is pretty cool. Keep it up and full steam ahead.
We watch you guys channels from Tennessee, we love your creativeness and determination, I think your truck will be fine it's your idea and creation, I worked in a Ag shop for 30 years and could never tackle a project like this cool ride, we love Ally , Leo, you and Brandon, a cool team we made part of our everyday, Robert and Loretta of Life on Loretta Hill.
Mistakes are the best teacher, regardless what you are doing. You got this!
Wow Trent, I went back and read some of the comments. Most folks are kind and supportive while others seem to think you are out of your league. I for one think you are doing just fine. Your welds do look amazing and you are giving it your best. Remember it is your build, your truck, your time and your money so the nay-sayers can go suck it..... LOL Love you and Allie, oh yes, Brandon too!
20 years from now the experience you have gained will be priceless because you earned every bit of it 💯👍
🦋I don’t know the first thing about rebuilding a truck but I do have faith in your ability to figure all this out. And I love watching your show. Much love and many blessings to you and your project.
This was good Trent --I've seen a lot worse. And they are driving them on the roads!
Hi Trent , welds looking good , next time when you do the fish plate on something always use a straight edge to guide your plasma torch it works so much better less roughness to grind and round all the corners of the fish plate it will stop stress cracking in the future as pointed ends can cause a flex crack 🤷🏼♂️😁 Great watching you build keep up the fun work, I wish I could come help!😁
As all your commenters are saying, there's no need to second guess yourself Trent. From our viewpoint, you're doing a fabulous job on everything you, Allie and Brandon are doing. Much love from Tennessee.
Going well. I agree it will straighten out later when you put in more frame supports.
Hello Trent, Rule one welding things will move. Being an ex welder. You should be good just when you place them in bridge them (temporary) while you line up the body, place some cross supports and remove them when you are finished. REMEMBER it's a rock crawler after your first day using it something will bend anyway LOL
@JRs-Garage
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha Darryl I was thinking the exact same thing it’s a rock crawler and brasher , it will get smashed and bent at some point , he was worrying too much and he can just set up all his welds to pull it all back into shape as he cross braces the frame , I wasn’t even worried about the bow in the frame either!😁🤷🏼♂️👍🏻
Trent you are so talented and willing to try just about anything. Stay safe, stay warm and remember to take sometime for fun on the snowmobile.
I don't know enough to comment but I think you're a pretty good fabricator Trent. Welds look nice and strong and you work out problems as they arise. Always moving forward.
I have actually been where you are now. Built my first truck at 21-25 yrs old. Took a little while. Lol. You are your worst enemy and being way too hard on yourself. It will be fine. Just keep rolling bud, your doing great. Mine was a show piece so I had to be really picky and knew nothing. Definitely was an eye opener. A lot of sleep and money lost. But loved that truck!!! I also learned a lot and had a good time. Keep going Trent and be positive. You deserve it!!!!
Trent, keep up the good work, everything is fixable, one way or another. You get so down on yourself sometimes while striving for perfection. However, perfection truly doesn’t exist, and in the end things just work out through hard work and determination in a beautifully crafted imperfect way! Hang in there! Looking forward to seeing more truck build!
You’ll be able to straight that once you have both rails on! You can either strap it and pull them in or put jack in between the rails and push them out!
Hey Mr Trent looks like know matter the task y'all seem to be up for it and enjoy every minute. Blessings to all of you and your families.
Don't get down on yourself Trent, you are building a masterpiece and it's gonna be GREAT.
Trent, you always worry that it looks like you don't accomplish much in your videos. For those of us who have been watching for awhile, we know you are a hard worker. Sorry that your rookie mistake with the welds caused you so much frustration. Hopefully, it will all work out in the long run. I think it's exciting that you have the frame welded on the bottom. It's a very visual sign that things are starting to happen!
I have no experience on a build like this! I will just say I think you are doing a great job! Keep up the positive attitude!
You are doing great. Remember the only way to learn from a mistake is to first make that mistake.
Trent rule of thumb is if you rebuild your transmission please replace the torque converter also
Trent, you can heat shrink the other side of the bent frame rail to straighten it out.
I think you're doing great, Trent. I'm enjoying the build.
Great progress!! You are building a crawler, you can make it all work out in the end!! Thanks for sharing with us. My highlight each week.
Just as we chuckle at your narration, we notice your camera(wo)man also chuckling. We're all having fun! Keep up the great work! 😃
The important thing is, the tires have to be square to each other. You can make up any difference in the frame dimension difference when you mount the front and rear clips, where the suspension pieces are welded
Most people wouldn't attempt this but this is going to be so cool when you get it done can't wait now as far as some things not being perfect ( a hair out of square) your building a rock crawler not a race car it's probably going to get bent anyway so don't sweat the small things your doing awesome
Hi Trent, That body mount area on he cab can be straightened. You’re going to need a “Porta Power” to push the body back into shape. You’ll need to mount and angle iron in the body mount hole to push on. Find an area on the drivers side floor rail to push off of, or weld a temp support to that area to push off of. It’s ok, porta powers are not that expensive at harbor freight.
True Trent style - it’s a hair out of square. In the end, it all works so keep moving forward.
Looks good Trent I enjoy watching you build it all houses, cars what's next keep up the good content. That goes for Allie to.
To straighten the frame rail, use a rosebud to heat the back side then chill with a rag soaked in water.
You admit to your limitations, which in turn lead to learning. I think you are doing a nice job.
I think you will be fine with the frame rail. Realistically, you will not have bracing strong enough to prevent any movement during welding anyway. You would need a large and heavy industrial type of bracing for that which just isn't practical for a home build. So 1/2" inch out is not a major problem in my opinion.
You can CERTAINLY lay a better bead than I can. And I haven't seen such good welds on much of the equipment I've seen these last few years. As far as the fab work.... I don't see any issues. So it's got a small bend. Most will come out if you gusset the outsides as well... in my opinion. I'm TRUELY enjoying this build. Keep up the great work. I have done similar fab work in the past. IT had its quirks... but it performed as intended. I absolutely believe you are building a one-off, custom rock crawler that will perform better than you think. Let's get this thing built and on the trails.
I have to agree with most of these comments Trent! Though I am not personally a professional welder, I work with them and see a ton of “projection’s” welds and yours are better than a vast majority. What’s more, you’re not building a piano, thought its great to act like you are, you’re not. You’ll do fine and figure things out and have a great crawler! Can’t wait to see you use it!
Put some welds on the other side of the frame opposite of you gusset and that will shrink that side and straighten out that frame rail. They do this on trailer frames when they weld on the spring hangers on the frame it puts an arch in the frame so they weld on the top side to shrink it to straighten it back out. You doing a great job and learning a lot along the way.
You can place some cross pieces of equal length that will maintain an equal distance between the frames. It will firm-up the under-carriage. Your bracing with holes is an excellent idea.
if you weld another plate on the other side of that frame rail it will straighten out a lot and you can clamp it down after you heat it to help with the warp.
just an idea .......when you do your cross bracing can you use some heavy duty ratchet straps or a come along to bring the rails back into square.......great job .....keep up the content
It’s a low speed vehicle so perfect alignment isn’t critical. Enjoy watching Trent stress over getting it perfect. Close enough is fine. You’ll have fun when it’s done.
Family is first in every step of your build!!!
Trent, Who cares, it's your project, you do it the way you think it goes and if a mistake is made you go and fix it. Damn awesome job, I can't wait for it to be complete. Good luck my friend.
You guys got a lot done in this video thanks ❤😊
Its all apart of the process of the build, if you don't show it - then its bad, you show it and work through it and its all good, plus now we all have a new word in our vocab - gusset ;) 1. a piece of material sewn into a garment to strengthen or enlarge a part of it. 2. a bracket strengthening an angle of a structure. We are all learning here!
If you want this project done perfect you do not have enough experience to be doing it alone. If you don't care if it is done right don't worry about it and keep going.
If you weld a gusset on the other side it will pull the frame back straight, when welding tubes like that it will always pull towards where you are welding, so you need to try minimise the heat, so let it cool between welds and try weld opposite ends to keep it straight. Your welds are on point though, very impressed, wish our welders could do that
Amazing work guys...saving dogs is awesome!! 😊
Don't be discouraged You're doing a grand job Trent ,a little warpage can be sorted when to fix the bracing to it. Keep the videos coming
I love when you say, "I don't have a lot of experience in doing this" you really mean, "I have never done this before".
Trent's "Home Improvement" !!!!
Enjoy watching you guys work !
Great job Trent, Brandon and Allie!!! I don't know what you did, but it's better than with I could do! Your trying and to me that's an A+++ in my book! 👍👍👍👍👍
Everything coming together Trent looking great
Don't be so critical of yourself. Learn from mistakes and move forward. Those a really good looking welds!!
Always remember you are the resident expert in your garage. Don’t let anyone else to you different 😂 it’s all a hair outta square
Love my Trent's Garage videos
Wish you could do two truck videos a week I’m hooked lol.looking fantastic 😊
Just another lesson learnt. Your deffo gonna be strong and your building what you want. Progress is being made and as usual the video I'd great.
Reliving stress in welds You can reduce the shrinkage in the weld to reduce the distortion by using a needle gun.
Hubby says (he was a mechanic and still helps friends out) you can always a bottle jack it straight, if it bothers you. Good luck.
What about a temporary/collapsible work surface off the cold floor? Maybe sturdy sawhorses and 2 X 6 framing set up leveled. In your remodel and this truck build you seem to be fairly often working on your knees and boy you will feel it some day! Working hard is laudable but working , sorry. You have more than what it takes to be good at life's challenges and you do it!
You're doing great Trent. I haven't looked forward to watching a build this much since Paul renovated The Golden Nugget over on Fab Rats. 😀
Should buy a mag drill to drill holes, but make sure you pilot drill and step up for bigger holes. It’s how we do this in iron working to create holes that are round and laid out properly.
I would like to make a statement about the tools he is using. ALWAYS be very careful while using power tools. I was using an angle grinder a few years back and cutting a piece of 1/4 inch steel to shape when the steel got hot enough to pinch the blade. The angle grinder suddenly became airborne and I wound up in the hospital for a while. It cut 4 nerves, 3 tendons, and an artery clean through. Still have nerve loss in left hand, When the paramedics arrived one of them followed the blood trail to where the accident happened to the office that called them. He came back and said most people would be dead by the time they got there because the first thing they do is try to call 911on their cell phone. I explained that I had had field medical training and knew the first thing to do is stop the blood flow. A sliced artery can result in bleeding to death in a matter of just a few minutes. So I stopped the flow with my right hand and held it while I walked to the office. Hand works, just no feeling in 3 fingers. So, ALWAYS be very alert while using power tools. ANYTHING with a high speed blade CAN become airborne and do serious damage. And yes, I still use an angle grinder when needed!
I have been working on reck car's and truck's so you have to improvised sometimes maybe use like a long piece of pipe to pull the body mounts close a big long piece of pipe so you can have leverage
13:36 it’s a rock crawler it will be fine. Great job thanks for sharing.
Hi Trent, you are doing a great job and learning as you go. You are human and prone to making a few mistakes. By in large learning by mistakes is ok in my book. Take care say hi to the camera lady, Allie for me.
My head explodes everytime I see your garage channel ...
You’re doing great things Trent 🎉
Trent I am very impressed with your welding. Keep up the good 👍 work.
Good job on the gussets and will benefit you in the future. Remember when you weld the opposite side it will pull the frame back over to.
What's up Trent. Let's gooooo, glad to be back watching my favorite people. And my favorite channels, Trent and Allie and Trent's Garage. Thanks again for all you do 😊
I don’t know if you are doing a great job or not on this build but you are fun to watch
Leo will learn a lot from you Trent, because you will show him that mistakes will be made, but there is always a fix. You'll also show him when you're mad, you won't be any different than when you're happy! Seriously, you have the best attitude.
It’s fine. After you get it together it won’t be hard to pull it to where you need it.
Good job dude , you're doing great, keep at it !!
Look into Annular Cutters. Makes accurate holes quickly.
I wonder how many husbands tell their wives, but I saw Trent do this .... and it worked! This is going to be amazing when it’s done, considering you’re replacing everything including the backseat (I know, you said that was staying… But I have a bet riding on that 😆).
Keep going don't give up, but make it safe for all of you !😊😊😊
Every time I hear you say I don't know what I'm doing my anxiety kicks in!😂🤣
Trent, welding can be a friend or not. Welding on a plate usually gets done by hitting a segment and doing another one and then coming back and doing another segment just to keep the warping down. Just saying. your doing a great job!
go for it trent it all works out in the end your doing a great job regardless
🇳🇱You have solved that nicely You may stay have a nice Sunday and a very quiet working week, greetings from Roosendaal in the Netherlands Hans.
It's a rock crawler, so it doesn't need to be perfect. Strong welds seem to be the biggest concern in the long run. If you take this thing to places it is intended for, you'll put enough twists and stresses on it that it won't stay perfect anyhow.
I hope you are aware of why they have sheet metal walls in a cutting/welding area of a shop Trent🔥
Good stuff Trent!!!
Appreciate you sharing Trent, great looking welds for sure. I used to weld back in the day