“Say when” is still the coldest line ever

@shawnwilkening

16 күн бұрын

It's also historically accurate; several witnesses confirm Holliday REALLY said that

Val Kilmer should've won an Oscar for his performance in "Tombstone," my fav western. 👏 👏 👏

@1aml3g3nd13

21 күн бұрын

Thank the Oscars for giving Best Supporting to Jack Palance for City Slickers.

@casonthompson6305

20 күн бұрын

The best Western ever and I hate Western films but this I can watch back to back

@daveo1808

15 күн бұрын

@@casonthompson6305 Unforgiven is really good too, not much of a western fan myself outside Tombstone and Unforgiven

@casonthompson6305

15 күн бұрын

Never heard of it I'll check it out after the gym thank you

@Annonymous0283745

14 күн бұрын

@@casonthompson6305 ole boy was right tho, Unforgiven is really good too even if you're like us and don't care for westerns.

The difference between confidence and arrogance is personified in this scene

@johngoldsworthy7135

17 күн бұрын

Doc just knows he can kill Ringo, but also he wants to kill him. Zero hesitation in his walk and delivery. Badass scene

@Calekoflight

8 күн бұрын

Idk...I thought Ringo was supposed to be a top shelf badass, he was just drunk and really upset at the time.

@thehumandirigible4882

3 күн бұрын

​@@johngoldsworthy7135 Doc is also fully aware he is dying, so getting shot and killed doesn't even phase him. He's going out one way or another, whether it's now with a bullet or painfully choking on his deteriorating lungs in several months time, and with that realization the bullet almost sounds better anyway. He has nothing to lose, and that is what gives him the far more dangerous edge.

@agreer6483

2 күн бұрын

@@thehumandirigible4882 when it comes to fighting and war. Those who have nothing to lose are the most dangerous

"I'm your huckleberry... that's just my game" this movie was awesome and val kilmer was amazing I still can't believe he didn't win a oscar for this role

@gutstompenrocker

18 күн бұрын

Robbed.

@Dentarthurdent99

16 күн бұрын

@@gutstompenrocker Forget winning, he wasn't even nominated. Absolutely unbelievable, total fail by the Academy.

@joshuasmyth155

15 күн бұрын

He didn't say huckleberry, he said hucklebearer. A huckle was an exterior part of the casket that helped carry it. Essentially he was saying I'll carry you to your grave

@Androsynth75

14 күн бұрын

This is one of those roles absolutely nobody will ever be able to top. Like Ian McKellan as Gandalf or Robert Downey Jr as Iron Man. You can re cast, sure, but you’ll never exceed.

@Dorchadas-Sloane

13 күн бұрын

@@joshuasmyth155 He did say huckleberry. Val Kilmer has confirmed it himself. People speculated that he said hucklebearer instead of huckleberry, because they didn't know it was part of what used to be a known phrase, then it got spread as fact through the internet.

Curly Bill knew Doc was NOT playing.

@sidneyrodrigues728

29 күн бұрын

Bill saw that he was already drawn. That was the difference.

@R__K

25 күн бұрын

​@@sidneyrodrigues728...and a tad drunk.

@Qegurezi

21 күн бұрын

@@sidneyrodrigues728 He didn't even need to be either as seen by their eventual gunfight.

@leoskiss3390

21 күн бұрын

I agree curly Bill knew Ringo wasn’t really a match for Doc drunk or not 😂

@danielheesom1357

17 күн бұрын

Curly bill had heard he was “real fast “

Ringo never saw Doc’s draw. He didn’t know how fast he was. But Doc saw Ringo draw in the cup twirling scene so he knew he was faster than Ringo.

@gator2813

20 күн бұрын

Plus he already had a gun in his hand.

@zi326

6 күн бұрын

That's actually not true. Even when they actually dueled in the end scene Doc thought he was going to lose but he still wanted to play it out. I believe it was Wyatt Earp himself that said afterwards (in real life) that Doc thought Ringo was faster than him but he wasn't sure.

@jasonwiliams3731

2 күн бұрын

He was a little too high strung! Doc learned that he could hit Ringo from the hip!

Michael Biehn is the most underrated moviestar of our time. I mean.. terminator, aliens,tombstone, the rock.. what do you have to do more?

@toddsalvati5694

Ай бұрын

He totally nailed this role

@rickdeckard1075

Ай бұрын

AGREED SO LITERALLY ARGUABLY SHOCKINGLY OVERRATED

@robertmorris8997

Ай бұрын

The Lords of Discipline

@rickdeckard1075

Ай бұрын

AGREED SO INARGUABLY LITERALLY SHOCKINGLY OVERRATED

@JohnSmith-gq9gn

Ай бұрын

The Abyss was an incredible movie.

“Barber, proceed sir”😂😂😂 that’s my favorite part of this scene

@lidla2008

12 күн бұрын

bahbuh*

Kilmer really never got the credit he deserved. He wasn’t an actor, he was a proper thespian.

@tokukeitaro

17 күн бұрын

Imagine if he had had a decent batman script and director. Dude would have stood higher than Keaton in the bat actor rankings

Honestly this is one the best films ever made.. It gets a bad rap because its a western but the acting, the writing, the directing, the cinematography, the music are all incredible! Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer should, at the very least, received Oscar nominations for this film

@spartanx169x

15 күн бұрын

There is a major flaw that is never mentioned that Hollywood specifically did. They made up the reason for the major gunfight - "They have guns in the city and its against the law." That was straight out of Hollywood Anti-gun propaganda. Ignoring that, its a masterpiece movie. One of the Earp brothers tells them- "We don't want to take you guns, you just can't have them in the city." Anti-2A groups have been spouting nearly that line identical word for word for 20 plus years except now they don't even hide that now they want to take ALL guns.

The fact he has the pistol behind his back, he knew the rest of the Cowboys would come out and he was ready to take them all on. Probably would win too.

@meaneymouse1371

Ай бұрын

I gotcha back😅

@jamesm9995

Ай бұрын

Depends what was in the script, no ?

@jamesdheel1568

25 күн бұрын

In reality Doc Holiday was a bad shot. Yes he was fast, but not much of a shooter past 10ft

@meaneymouse1371

25 күн бұрын

@@jamesdheel1568 He was good enough

@3Rayfire

21 күн бұрын

@@jamesdheel1568 Hm, that's kind of shown in the film though, their duel at end is at point blank range where any lack of accuracy Doc has is nullified and it's all about his superior speed.

"Why Johnny Ringo, you looked as if somebody just 'walked over your grave!"

@satchelsatchel

Ай бұрын

What does that mean? Johnny Ringo is still alive, so he is unburied, and he has no grave?

@jamietodd2560

29 күн бұрын

@@satchelsatchelit’s an old saying for when you feel a creeping dread, as if you can feel it when someone walks over where you _will_ be buried.

@Androsynth75

14 күн бұрын

‘I’m afraid the strain was more than he could bear’ has got to be one of the greatest one liners in movie history too.

I love Ringo & Doc, & how they are both alike & different at the same time. These actors were great in their roles.

@The_Notorious_N.O.E.

22 күн бұрын

Two sides of the same coin

Every scene in this movie is iconic

Powers Boothe....what an actor !!

Val Kilmer Best Role.

@rickdeckard1075

Ай бұрын

i never thought it was that great. pretty half-assed accent, he did sweat well though.

@RkoStunna

Ай бұрын

​@@rickdeckard1075Your literally the only one who thinks that. Lol

@rickdeckard1075

Ай бұрын

@@RkoStunna that doesnt bother me in the slightest. strange that it matters to you. if everyone jumped off a cliff would you follow them?

@NotDuncan

Ай бұрын

@@RkoStunna you’re actually entirely wrong, it’s completely subjective and many people agree.

@TellMeWhenImTellingLies

Ай бұрын

He was way better as jim Morrison

"I'm your huckleberry." Val Kilmer is the man! I never tire of this movie.

@itslong8

10 күн бұрын

huckle.......bearer. hucklebearer

@RagnarokMic

8 күн бұрын

@@itslong8So you think Kilmer got the name of his autobiography wrong?

@Thaaden

5 күн бұрын

@@RagnarokMic So what he is getting at. If you listen to the phrase, and look up the context and it's origins. The handles on a coffin are traditionally called Huckles. So the phrase was "I'm you're Huckle Bearer." It was another way of saying, I will carry your casket after I kill you. Very very few people actually know the history of the term, or where it came from. And Kilmer said the line so fluid most people thought it was Huckleberry. And it just grew with time. At this point it is more of a Hollywood joke how an actor with fluid delivery can make a line take on a whole new meaning.

@SealofPerfection

4 күн бұрын

@@Thaaden Never believe internet memes. You got fooled. "Huckle bearer" is made up nonsense. It never existed, and ONLY exists on the internet. Kilmer didn't say it funny at all...he said Huckleberry. He has confirmed this. He actually refutes this "huckle bearer" nonsense in his book, which is interestingly titled "I'm Your Huckleberry". The script says Huckleberry, by the way. Look it up. While you're at it, look up "huckle" and you'll find it never meant "casket handle", or anything resembling a handle of any sort. This "huckle bearer" nonsense was made up on the internet, and has no basis in fact at all.

@RagnarokMic

4 күн бұрын

@@ThaadenYes, I'm well versed in the "huckle bearer" myth. Three main troubles with the theory: 1. "I'm your Huckleberry" is a direct Doc Holiday quote from an old story. 2. The script says "I'm your huckleberry." 3. Val Kilmer literally named his autobiography "I'm your Huckleberry.” The real issue is people not understanding a southern drawl, Doc Holiday was from Georgia. He wouldn't pronounce it "bear-ee" he'd pronounced it "berreh," which people are mistaking for "bearer."

Kilmer is owed an oscar for his performance as doc holiday

@JnEricsonx

26 күн бұрын

I when I met him(he couldn't talk :( ) like many others, told him that.

@3Rayfire

21 күн бұрын

If anyone should get a lifetime achievement Oscar, Val Kilmer should. From Real Genius and Top Gun, to Tombstone he always delivered quality. Heck I even like Batman Forever, it was a solid performance.

@gator2813

20 күн бұрын

@@3Rayfire He did a pretty good job in The Doors too.

Man the cowboys knew Doc was not to be f*cked with! 😂

Ringo: “Fight’s not with you Holliday.” Doc: “I beg to differ sir, we started a game we never got to finish “play for blood” remember?” Ringo: “ I was just foolin’ about.” Doc: “ I wasn’t.” Ringo: 💀

If you ever challenge someone to a fight and they go, "Say when..." Say no! 🤣🤣🤣

I love this scene with Val and Michael Bien.

I keep finding & watching clips from Tombstone. I’m happy to do it too.

You’re no daisy Johnny. You’re no daisy at all.

I will never understand why Val Kilmer didn’t win an Oscar for this role.

@tnexus13

Ай бұрын

Stacked year for Supporting Actor. Ralph Fiennes - Schindler's List, Pete Postlethwaite - In The Name of The Father, and the winner was Tommy Lee Jones - Fugitive.

@sspiegel1

28 күн бұрын

@@tnexus13 Indeed but still this performance was far better than Tommy Lee Jones in Fugitive.

@meonkrishnanan5920

25 күн бұрын

Lee gave a generic Lee performance in The Fugitive Kilmer's acting here was akin to a whirlwind

@R__K

25 күн бұрын

​@meonkrishnanan5920 Exactly... I think it was more unfortunate timing. Unforgiven being the prior if I'm not mistaken. The Academy didn't want back-to-back Westerns getting awards.

Say When. Best character of all time.

Doc Holliday clearly had a death wish and would take as many bad men with him as he could. I had a new respect for Val Kilmer after he made Doc Holliday so believable!💯

@sagesarrazine6270

8 күн бұрын

Not so much a death WISH per se, he already had the TB and knew it. More like a prisoner on death row, he had literally nothing to lose, but everyone else did

@shawn3363

6 күн бұрын

@@sagesarrazine6270 as the kids say nowadays, Doc stood on business.

@sagesarrazine6270

5 күн бұрын

@@shawn3363 Truth lmao. And with God no less

I've never seen a movie where an actor stole the show like Val Kilmer did with this. Amazing performance.

Doc Holliday was ice cold.🥶

Easily one of my favorite western films due to Val Kilmers performance 🔥 he was also my favorite Batman growing up before I watched Keaton.

Ive watched this movie so many times and it doesn't get old. I guess it helps that I live about 20 min from tombstone.

Yay for having met Val and Michael Biehn.

Johny ringo:i was just foolin' about Doc:i wasn't

@LYLEWOLD

15 күн бұрын

"And now it's legal"

"I'm your huckleberry." Huckleberries only grow wild and can't be farmed. You gotta go and find them where they grow wild. "Im your huckleberry," means, "You found just the guy you're looking for." It's also a taunt: calling someone "huckleberry" is a term of endearment. Basically, Doc is saying, "Let's go, sweetheart," and trying to provoke Ringo towards him and away from Wyatt.

@rev.jimjones9100

23 күн бұрын

A "huckleberry" was one of six men who carry your casket to your gravesite.

@ZDubz007

22 күн бұрын

@@rev.jimjones9100 a Huckle bearer*. The "huckle" is the handle of the casket. pall bearer huckle bearer huckleberry

@cliffordlouden

21 күн бұрын

@@ZDubz007 right, if you listen closely you can hear "bearer" not "berry". I do anyway

@ZDubz007

21 күн бұрын

​@cliffordlouden he says it twice, and I can hear both versions both times. At the end when he kills Ringo, I think it sounds more like berry and in this scene more like bearer, but it is very hard to distinguish. I think he ad libbed the line and made it his own.

@SealofPerfection

19 күн бұрын

@@ZDubz007 Huckle never ever meant any type of handle, nor any part of a casket. This is all made up internet nonsense. He said "I'm your huckleberry" in response to Ringo's "play for blood" challenge because it is a WELL-documented phrase that means "I'm game/I'm your man/I'm the one you're looking for/etc" It's the PERFECT and period-correct response to such a question. It's in the script. Scriptwriter took it right out of a 1920's book about Tombstone in which Doc says that exact thing to Ringo in this situation. And unlike "huckle bearer", "I'm your huckleberry" actually existed and appears in many books. You cannot find "bearer" in a single piece of any kind of literature. It only exists on the internet.

Sums up the entire conflict. A group of dirtbags used to bullying ran into some men who handed stood up to them gave it to them every time

My granddaughter is a great artist. At one time before she got married she had an online poster business. She designed posters and sold them online. She charged 25 dollars a poster however one weekend she had a sale and on Monday morning before the post office opened,she called them and warned them that she had 247 posters to mail to different addresses so they might need extra time to get them all stamped before they opened. Anyway, one of the posters was a poster of a handsome man with a mustache labeled I’m your Huckleberry. I didn’t understand what she meant so she told me about the film. After that she went out of the poster business and went to work for a taxidermy business. She had never done any thing like that before but she was a quick study, so much so that her boss bought hunting rifles for her and another girl and brought them a trip to go on safari to Africa. I have a picture of her and the Jim buck deer that she shot. A year or two she and one of her girlfriends went on a two week trip to another country but after a week into the cruise she came back home because she had met the boy she eventually married. Now they have a 1 year old little boy and this afternoon their little 2 year old daughter is going to be 3 and she’s having a birthday party this afternoon. 👧🎂🎊🎉🎁🪅💝

@grimtrigg3r

Ай бұрын

She sounds like a wonderful person, I’m sure you’re very proud of her. Thanks for sharing!

Anyone commenting on the "huckleberry" vs "hucklebearer" debate needs to head on over to "the wild west extravaganza" and listen to Josh put this debate to rest. He documents his sources very well.

@JnEricsonx

26 күн бұрын

Or, Val Kilmer himself.

@SealofPerfection

19 күн бұрын

They can't stand to admit that they read an internet meme, believed it, and now find out they've been fooled. So they double down on the nonsense of "huckle bearer". There never, ever was any such term.

My absolute favorite scene in a movie.

Great movie, and this scene was based on an actual even that took place in January 1882. But it wasn't broken up by Curly Bill, but rather by Chief of Police Flynn. And I believe it took place on the much wider Allen Street. But still a great scene from an awesome film!

Great movie, Phenomenal cast! Instant classic! 😎👌🏻

Doc almost just ended the Ringo problem for them.

Barber.... you may proceed sir...

A lot of talented actors and actresses deserved awards that didn't get them. Michael Biehn, Bill Paxton and Lance Henriksen should be awarded lifetime achievement awards for their work in sci-fi films. Val Kilmer should have won an award for this scene alone. This isn't an oil painting artist where you only get recognized after your death. Better to show your respect while they are still alive.

I still get chills

This is the documentary I would have sent on Voyager II

@thadstaples

12 күн бұрын

The best video for future deep space probes is anything Biden says. If there are any Allen's out there, they will listen to 5 minutes of Biden and not attack us because they will know there is no intelligence leaders on this planet.

His appearance was Oscar worthy alone

man and Doc was always dripped out, beautiful vest

Always thought "I'm your huckleberry" was just a vague Mark Twain reference. Never really considered it past that. Thank you, KZread comments. You complete me.

@SealofPerfection

16 күн бұрын

Actually, it's not. Twain actually got Huck Finn's name from the saying, not the other way around.

They saved Ringo's ass. If he tried to draw there you could probably roll the credits of the movie about 10 minutes after this

One of my favourite actors in one of my favourite movies.

Barber? Proceed sir

Everyone in this film was terrified of Doc Holliday, even when he’s drunk.

@Qegurezi

21 күн бұрын

Ringo wasn't as we saw in the bar. Sober was certainly another matter after this scene.

Ringo was too high strung, and the stress was more than he could bear. Us a southern drawl when you say it.

If you take all of Clint Eastwood Westin's movies out of the equation; this was the BEST Westin movie ever made!

@bauerj3398

28 күн бұрын

No. Not even close.

@jameslivingston7159

20 күн бұрын

You're high

@bauerj3398

20 күн бұрын

@@jameslivingston7159 Agreed, anybody thinking this is a top 10 western needs to lay off the meth

@kodax2

17 күн бұрын

As much as I like this movie, Shane has the best gunfight between Shane and Jack Wilson. That entire movie has so little violence but is building up to that showdown.

@Colin_After_Dark

16 күн бұрын

I'll take Once Upon a Time in the West over Tombstone any day. Henry Fonda as a villain was incredible.

With lesser actors, this could've been a failed attempt to revive a diminished film genre. With this cast, and with Kilmer as the standout among standouts, there were some unforgettable and inspiring scenes that make this a classic.

Huckleberry Finn came out in 1884 and was popular. So Mark Twain used Huckleberry as a humble person but also as its name sweet and wild, like him in the story. So for Doc Holiday to use it in that way shows that he can go down to his level, and was nice and ask permission to participate. Great scene!

@malarucoon

7 күн бұрын

The actual saying is from "a huckleberry to, or over, a persimmon" which was to say one thing is beneath you or that one is over qualified. It's actually a wonderful way to belittle someone in this case which if doc is looking for a fight could just edge his opponent on.

So calmly going from sitting on the porch of the barbershop, to walking up to him ready to fight and die if necessary with a pistol ready for his friends who will undoubtedly join in when he wins, truly shows the kind of person that ppl back then said Doc Holliday really was. How he and Wyatt became such close friends is just one of those twists of fate that happens in life sometimes and that makes life so great.

Movie magic!

Fun Fact: The handles on a casket are called huckles. The person who carries the casket by the huckle is called a "bearer". In the early 1800s, the term "huckle bearer" was used instead of the current term "pallbearer". Pallbearers use the huckle to carry the casket into a funeral ceremony and to the grave site. "I'm your huckle bearer... that's just my game."

“I’ll be your Huckle bearer” . In those days, the rope handles on a coffin were called the “Huckle”. When Val Kilmer told him I will be your Huckle bearer, and not, Huckleberry, he was talking about carrying his coffin at the funeral.

Sister boy should have stuck around great line

The thing that made Doc so fun to watch, was that he wanted to die. The TB was making him miserable. So, he was willing to draw at any time. Made for an amazing story.

@ghostinthemachine8243

13 күн бұрын

A guy with nothing left to lose is a dangerous man.

@J_GoTTi

13 күн бұрын

@@ghostinthemachine8243 i couldn’t have said it better.

@markervin2147

4 күн бұрын

Kirk Douglas as Doc, "I never lose because I have nothing TO lose."

Fantastic movie. Wire to wire

One of my favorite scenes they saved ringo

What a GREAT clip - many quotables... "Barber... PRO-ceed, Sir." "Don't mine him - He jus' drunk!" "I'm your [boysenberry, I think?]" "SAY when!"

@patriciawright8786

Ай бұрын

Lol! Close but it’s: “I’m your Huckleberry.” Otherwise people may think you’re ordering some jam for your toast.

@spksoftware

Ай бұрын

Boysenberry. Rofl

@justinklenk

Ай бұрын

@@patriciawright8786 Impossible - come to think of it, maybe it was FrankenBerries... or even BooBerries?

@marlonsmith924

Ай бұрын

Barber proceed sir!! My favorite

@melo8668

Ай бұрын

Snosberries

Say When!!!

Johnny ringos mates just saved his life

@randallmarsh1187

Ай бұрын

Just merely postponed it!

I saw this movie after I passed my road test

the quote is actually "I'm your Huckle bearer"

"I'm Your Huckleberry " Play for Blood

didn't realize but the guy in red voices Dutch from Red Dead redemption

That man was robbed of a Oscar

The algorithms have brought me back to "Tombstone"

Best damn movie ever

it always cracks me up in these old timey movies when someone obviously clean shaved goes in for a shave

Ringo running into a bunch of coffins with the other guys that will die is great foreshadowing.

Best actor for the BEST part of this incredible movie.. VAL WAS ROBBED OF HIS OSCAR.. but his part will outlive his detractors!

For some unknown reason it's become unacceptable to insult to insult someone for having a terminal diseaase, I miss the old days.

Val kilmer could have been my huckleberry at any time and any place lol

@satchelsatchel

Ай бұрын

And in any state of dress…

The relevance of immediately returning the the Barber's chair is that he's not tachycardic. What just happened with Ringo affected Doc's heart rate the same way the shave was affecting Doc's heart rate

Best part is that's not what he said and most don't realize. He said I'm your huckle bearer. Google it.

I like to dress Arthur up like doc in this scene and terrorize people in Valentine, there’s a red vest and puffy tie at the Taylor shop lol 😂😂😂 this is the pinnacle of what we all think about in a western

SAY WHEN....!

Proceed sir

Ringo couldn’t take Doc stone cold sober, much less staggering drunk!

We all know he was just too high strung.

@JnEricsonx

26 күн бұрын

Val signed a beautiful print of Doc with that line for me. :)

@longjonsilver1307

25 күн бұрын

@@JnEricsonx that's awesome

Barber, proceed sir

You’ll be a daisy if you do

"you're no daisy!"

It's "I'm here Huckleberry".... Always has been. He is literally saying he is there.

Blondie never had to cheat with a gun behind his back to take out any one!

@is1dsa700

25 күн бұрын

Maybe it's a precaution coz the cowboys are not always alone

Powers booth

i wonder if Dutch was slightly modeled after Curly Bill?

The handles on coffins were called "Huckles" and he was saying I'll carry or "Bear" your casket. I'll be your huckle bearer. He's saying he's going to kill you and carry your coffin.

You’re no daisy!

Nothing good ever happens in that part of town 😱

Sam Elliott was 48ish when this came out. Man he looked old back then.

Why Johnny Tyler The mad cap

Huckle bearer. I'll be your huckle bearer. Coldest line ever!!

@SealofPerfection

4 күн бұрын

Huckleberry. Just like it says in the script.

I love saying this to police when they think they're about to violate my rights. They think it's funny, until they realize I'm serious.