It seems like the Pro's Closet is like Gamestop for bikes. You can find some decent deals when buying used, but when you go back to trade anything in you will almost always be dissappointed with what they offer you. The way I think of it, when you go to trade anything in to a company, they will almost always be getting the better end of the deal.

@EvansMTBSaga

8 ай бұрын

True! I had a friend sell a bike to TPC during the MTB craze and they were paying soo much for bikes. I hope the market stabilizes soon

@RuezgaDaniel

8 ай бұрын

@EvansMTBSaga No matter what they pay, they will always be selling it for a lot more to make a profit, which makes sense, they are a business. I guess as long as everyone is happy with what they're spending or getting, it all works out. Sometimes it is nice to have somewhere you can trade in your unwanted stuff quickly, even if it means taking a monetary loss.

@blake_n_mtb

8 ай бұрын

You got it for a good deal, the market is a little wonky right now though!

@barnsnoble7066

8 ай бұрын

It's the price you pay for convenience

@That.Guy.

8 ай бұрын

Its worth $10m but I gotta pay a guy to hang it on the wall so I can offer you $37

I laughed so hard when the orange valve stems got removed! Most relatable thing; YOU AINT GETTING THESE😂😂

@EvansMTBSaga

8 ай бұрын

Haha heck no those were mine!

I received an offer from TPC on my 2019 Full Dura Ace Cannondale SuperSix (with about 150 miles on it) which was so low that I decided instead to give it away to a kid down the street who was in love with it. I figure I'll feel much better about giving it to an aspiring young rider than I will be getting ripped off by TPC.

They murdered you with that trade in offer. From $5900 to $3150 in 6 months is crazy and that frame scuff can be fixed very easily. FOMO is insane with people paying way over value on new and used bikes. eMTB's cost more than used cars now.

Here's my take on TPC, what they are selling you is convenience and assurance - an easy way to sell a bike you no longer want or need that has a guaranteed payout. It is up to the individual if they want to pay for the convenience TPC offers or go the 'sell it yourself' route, which includes: listing the bike, answer queries and questions, send more photos, deal with either a meet up or shipping, hoping the form of payment goes through. It is similar to the do you trade in your old car or sell it yourself, you will likely get more money if you sell it yourself (BTW - always negotiate for the car you are buying first, don't include the trade in as part of the deal - if the salesperson asks, just state you are not sure. After you agree on the new car, then negotiate on the trade in). OK enough car talk. Simply put the folks at TPC have to make money off the deal to make it worth their while, they have bills to pay too as they are running a business and not a 501(c) 3. Unfortunately or fortunately for the buying consumer, the state of bike industry with the overstock of new bikes and low demand make used bikes not worth as much, it is purely economics. Regarding the Rallon, I rode one last year in Durango and was really impressed with it. If I needed an enduro bike, it would be on my short list for sure.

@EvansMTBSaga

8 ай бұрын

Good take! I agree

@epochrocks3857

7 ай бұрын

Exactly, if they paid you what it was worth, they would either have to lose money fixing it, keeping it in inventory, listing it, etc. or they could rip off the person buying it. If a bike doesn’t sell it continues to lose money for them. I bought a bike on TPC that I had been watching for a while. Started at $4300 and 5 months later I got it for $2750.

Been looking at the orbea full sus so intrigued to see reasons behind selling it

Well usually now we see buy, sell, buy, sell, buy, sell. On Evan's channel But I'm glad he made this video a informal one just like his other dozen videos!

So, you basically rented the bike for roughly $400 per month.

@IIISentorIII

8 ай бұрын

😉

I think it's the perfect time to buy a Levo SL for 16K$ in a color I don't really like, a motor that is just a tiny bit too weak, a battery thats is somewhat ok if I only ride it with 75%Power. I mean obiously I would need a extender and another carbon 29 wheel since I don't like riding Mullet. What a time to be alive 😅

I have those exact grips in the same colour. I love them!! 🇨🇦

I’m fairly certain you would have sold it for $4k just posting it’s for sale with your pinkbike listing link in the description. Either way, cheers man, onto the next bike!

Just for an experiment, I did a brand new build took the 3 photos and all custom parts got an offer from TPC and made it clear it had 4 rides. Their offer was 2500 lower than what I paid and I got a massive deal on it new. It had no scratches, heck the chain ring and cassette didn't even have wear on it yet. I rode it for a year, sold it on Pinkbike for $1,000 more than the offer TPC offered me. They totally low ball then when they offer to buy it, then sell it for about 2k more. If you want to sell fast and have disposable income, go for it. I can't imagine now, I hear they are flooded with post covid inventory as is the used market. I'm sure they are offering way less now. Tough time to sell used, considering many brands are offering 20-30% off brand new. Glad it worked out for you man.

I love that we dry off our bikes the same way 😂 gotta bounce all that water away first

TPC lowballed the heck out of me. Bike overage or not, I'd rather been told they were uninterested in buying mine. Was even going to trade up and buy from them.

They offered me 1600 on my season old trek slash with performance elite suspension and gx axs the bike had literally zero marks on it and a brand new wheelset to sell. I ended up reverting it to stock and selling it on Facebook for 600 more then the pros closet offered for the upgrade version. Sure its an alloy bike but putting about 2 grand into suspension and more into drivetrain and being less then a season old and only getting 1600 is insane.

that bike would and should sell for more than 3150 IMO. But there is a time and a place i suppose- not everyone is comfortable shipping/taking risk with PinkBike.

Sick rallon man, I haven't seen the vid yet, I'm still on the ads, but I only can be good

Dialed..... keep it up. When we going to see another live stream? Maybe just a one or two hr long discussion?

What are those hand gards calld ? The tings in front of your grips?

okay,, If I want to sell it to TPC but who has or can get the box to wrap the bike like that? Does TPC has those boxes available somehow?

Good deal overall. Would have taken the instore credit for a few extra hundred towards your next project.

It would be awesome if I see a bike like that in Big Brothers Pawn.

Quick question do you actually have to wait 45 days for payment. Or have you received it already? I choose that option as well

@EvansMTBSaga

7 ай бұрын

Yeah they have to get the bike, inspect it, then releasing the money through PayPal takes a while

Your dad and bros are probably crying right now 😜 what a beautiful build that was.

@EvansMTBSaga

8 ай бұрын

They are for sure! Haha

“By Orbee!” 😅 I actually think that was a fair offer. I think in terms of “how much will they end up profiting on this?” I think TPC will end up listing it at $4,800. And it probably won’t sell for them until it’s around $4,400 or so. So that is only around a 25% profit for them when it’s all said and done 👍 GameStop for comparison sake is somewhere around 50-70% markup.

@EvansMTBSaga

8 ай бұрын

I think it's fair given the damage to the frame 😬🤣 if I was a prospective buyer and saw that I'd pass

@lincolnlu9869

8 ай бұрын

I bet they'll list it north of 5k so when they do have to eventually discount it, it looks like a bigger discount

Come to howler bike park, 2 hours from bentonville

@EvansMTBSaga

8 ай бұрын

I have made a video there back in April if you wanna check that out. Super fun!

Gonnna need a montage! MONTAGE!!

I'm currently trying to sell a MTB that I haven't ridden at all, and it looks like I'll be losing 50% of the money I spent on it 10 months ago. It's basically brand new with almost no signs of usage. Figured Mountainbiking isn't for me, I rather watch other people do it.

@EvansMTBSaga

8 ай бұрын

Oh man I'm just about to make a video about not quitting mountain biking. It's so good for you in more ways than 1!

@daskleineM

8 ай бұрын

@@EvansMTBSaga Sadly, I'm more of a roadie 🤣

@avySeal

8 ай бұрын

I hope no one minds me asking where you have the bike posted. I’d like to see what you’re selling. Thanks y’all. Awesome video also.

@daskleineM

8 ай бұрын

​ @avySeal I'm selling on ebay. A Bike that originally cost 3600 and even at 1900 for about 4 weeks I had no people interested messaging me.

Hi Evan I need explanation about one thing that you mentioned as you got the Orbea, I believe you’ve said that it has been sent to you to ride it for year hans you haven’t paid anything for it or have you?

@minnesotasteve

8 ай бұрын

I went back and looked at the video. It was a sponsored video from TPC. He doesn’t indicate if they sent him the bike or he bought it.

@EvansMTBSaga

8 ай бұрын

I was given a budget for a bike for a 4 video ad series, and at the end I was to sell it back to them

As a photographer u are a good bike Mechanix 😂

Pls try trek slash I’m currently trying to get one and I want to hear from my favourite mtb KZreadr 🙏

The Blow Closet lowballs the ever living hell out of you if you try to sell. And they only pay via Gaypal and if you want the money in a reasonable amount of time (the standard is I think 45 days) they cut the price even more.

Get used to it. This downward spirling over inflation economy will force the bike industry to do 1 of 4 things. 1 drasticly lower prices (yeah right) 2 focus on mid to entey level bike trims 3 lower production levels 4 focus on a direct to consumer made to order formula. I can see a combination of 3 and 4. The industey over compinsated for lack of inventory during covid, ignoring economic downturn, thinking bikes will keep on selling for over inflated prices. Hence all the sales and still mass inventory being unsold.

@EvansMTBSaga

8 ай бұрын

That's why I gravitate to Bikesonline for Polygon bikes. They check off 1,2,4. Not sure about their production levels. But they've severely marked down new bikes. Some awesome boost front and rear full sus for $1299 is wild

@PeterCPRail8748

8 ай бұрын

@@EvansMTBSaga i am in your wheel house. I have never paid more then 3000 canadian for a mtb in my life. I am in my early 40s and will not start now. I just cant justify the cost of these over priced over hyped trim levels of bike. The industry thinks we are all racer competitive type rider. They have totally left the averege weekend worrier rider behind. Focusing on individuals with a lot of money and income but posess piss more momey mangament skills. The industry is focusing on sub 1000 dollar hardtails and 5000 plus full suspention bikes. Telling the mid level riders that want quality and tech for that 1000 to 5000 level to pound salt. I am glad that there are brands like polygon and YT left that give you quality components for great pricing that does not come with crap NX group set and the cheapest Rockshock suspention that they make.

Wait what size and travel I’m actually looking rn and I might be able to stay close to 4k

@EvansMTBSaga

8 ай бұрын

Ah man it was always the plan to sell it back to the pros closet as a 4 video series

@dylanr7684

8 ай бұрын

@@EvansMTBSaga o I see that’s alr hope your happy with what you got with it

About 6 months ago they refused to buy my Guerrilla Gravity due to a 1mm x 6mm scratch. The bike had less than 100 miles in it and had been babied. They said they were trying to no longer buy bikes that a had a “used” appearance and that my bike was “too used”. Never really liked their company model but they definitely lost me as a future customer.

@EvansMTBSaga

8 ай бұрын

Dang! I'm surprised they accepted the offer with the scuff down to the carbon on mine. I'd be pretty weary about buying a bike with marks like my Orbea had. Did you end up keeping your GG?

@Bluelights17

8 ай бұрын

@@EvansMTBSaga yeah I’m pretty shocked too honestly. My scratch/chip wasn’t even to the carbon. But yeah I kept it as a back up to my Rocky Mountain altitude now.

Wow nice bike

I’d pay more dude I’d love to look at the specs and see if it’s right for me

TPC is legendary for lowballing. But in the current market nothing is selling. I can't even get bites on an Ibis Ripmo, the cult bike of cult bikes.

What songs do you use in this video?

TPC wouldn't buy my Spur because there was a chip by the rear axle.

The Pros Closet; the pawn shop of the bike world where if you're selling, your bike isn't worth much but if you're BUYING well, that same bike is worth at least double than if you're selling. 😂😂

@sopadre77

7 ай бұрын

I looked at bikes on TPC when I was buying last year. Instantly noticed their prices were much higher than most other places. Had better luck on Pink Bike. Got a slightly used year old Nukeproof Reactor C for $2600. TPC is a good reference point for what you SHOULDN'T pay, especially in the current market.

I’d be asking them why they’re effectively willing to pay you an extra $600 if they can pay you 45 days later…

@GF-cb8rr

8 ай бұрын

So they can sell it before it goes on as an additional flooring expense.

@nf8721

8 ай бұрын

Because some people don't want to wait/can't wait for the payout so they capitalize on it by paying less

Idk man, 3150 for that seems like a scam

reminds my of card shops, you sell a 40 dollar card for 10, and they sell it for 50.

Yo so how does get video sponsorship work

@EvansMTBSaga

6 ай бұрын

Need like 30k views every video for several months straight

You did problem DH MTB (Not safe sell )

I want this bike

People are buying good deals. Market is coming back down.

Sold a few bikes to Pros Closet. Have always got what I thought was a fair offer. Recently though, they low-balled me big time. I think that's just the state of the current used market. I am going to hold on to that bike rather than selling it for the low amount they offered.

Wait wait. You bought this for $5,900. It was your “dream build” that you kept for 6 months, didn’t ride for half that time, and now you’re selling it back for $3150 or $2519? So basically you paid $458 or $563 per month to have it and then not ride it half that time? 🤦‍♂️

Am i the only one?

@IIISentorIII

8 ай бұрын

Actually Jet Lie is it!

Ayoi🎉

Yo Evan wassup

@EvansMTBSaga

8 ай бұрын

Hey dude!

Yup you'll get couple hundred bucks

sell the parts individually

TPC listed this thing for $5800! 😂

@EvansMTBSaga

6 ай бұрын

My exact one that I sent?

The Pros Closet sucks! Did anyone tell you that in the beginning??

I'm trying to sell my 2023 Trek Fuel EX and I submitted to TPC and they offered me 1200 less than what I what I am even looking for on public marketplace. No thanks

@EvansMTBSaga

7 ай бұрын

Dang that's like a brand new bike basically. The market is rough right now man 😔

I will NEVER buy a used mountain bike again. Only brand new, with manufacturer lifetime warranties on the frame. I bought a brand new 2022 Team Marin 2, rode it for 4 months and it developed a crack in the weld on the chainstay yoke. I'd be screwed without that warranty. During the ridiculously long time I had to wait to get the frame replaced by the manufacturer, I made the mistake of buying a used 2021 Specialized Fuse 27.5 for $700. Guess what? It has a cracked frame too!? Probably why the guy was selling it. It lives on my trainer now, but damn. I should have just paid the $1200 for a brand new Fuse.

@EvansMTBSaga

8 ай бұрын

Man you must ride hard! haha. I don't keep bikes long enough to crack them. I'm like you are about warranties and rims. I want that peace of mind to beat the heck out of them haha

@mcndjxlefnd

8 ай бұрын

@@EvansMTBSaga Nah, just bad luck. I ride XC. Marin had to do a redesign of their Team Marin 2 due to warranty issues. Upon closer inspection, the Fuse looked like it had been crashed pretty hard, which I didn't notice until I rode it a couple times.

My dream dream dream bike,,

Thats an awful offer

Aw man

Dammm💯

Design flaw for sure! Sold mine for the same reason . Chain slap all day long.

@EvansMTBSaga

7 ай бұрын

Glad you got out!

good video, but way too much b-roll imho

I would give you my last 10 bucks 😢

ill give you a $1

sad(

Pros closet offered me $500 store credit only for my heavily upgraded 2023 Marin Rift Zone 2. I think they are trying to scam people

@GF-cb8rr

8 ай бұрын

That's a bad offer for sure but not a scam. There's no misleading in that offer.

@clint2627

8 ай бұрын

@@GF-cb8rr it’s my opinion. You don’t have to agree with it. I will never buy from them because I don’t want to buy a bike I know they ripped off of someone else.

@DongExcellente

8 ай бұрын

Hard to call it a scam. You can just pass and move your business elsewhere. Takes two parties to make a deal work.

@clint2627

8 ай бұрын

@@DongExcellente you are entitled to your opinion. And it does not bother me you disagree with mine. I did pass.

no no no

That is an absolute rip-off. That bike is worth minimum $4,000 only on components- suspension, drivetrain, and brakes, without the frame

Don’t take that offer

F

First

KZread, your commercials are outta hand!! Not even 1 minute into the video and mandatory 15 second commercial! After I had two commercials before the video started. So more advertising and less $ to content creators meanwhile you censor and bias.

@EvansMTBSaga

8 ай бұрын

Thats automatically done via KZread and based on your viewing patterns. For example, if I was the first video you watched right when you opened the app, you'd get a mandatory ad or two. It wouldn't happen if my video was the 5th video you watched in your viewing session.

@nomad-ridesmtb270

8 ай бұрын

@EvansMTBSaga Nothing against you brother! I'll still watch your videos. I just don't like that KZread has been ramping up ads while paying creators squat. I just vented here since I got hit with so many ads in a short time. They got me two more times after I commented!!

They made money off of you 2 times lol

Purple and orange color combo will keep you from getting top dollar.

@NonLegitNation2

8 ай бұрын

I almost wonder if he could have gotten more by parting the bike out and selling the parts individually. Unfortunately for the color it's something he can change. That Fox Factory fork is orange for a reason, the orange color means it's a top of line Factory fork. Although I guess now Fox sells it as a regular color option.

Bro try an ebike

@EvansMTBSaga

8 ай бұрын

Working on it!

Hey you didn't need to sell it, I would have taken it all das all night 😂😂

@Mirko-nh7rh

8 ай бұрын

I mean all day all night

I need a new mtb because it got destroyed by a car 😢pls

@gregoryvierra6114

7 ай бұрын

Dude, he’s not going to give you his bike.

Why don’t you send it to me.

This channel is everything wrong with mtb. All about gear, just ride your damn bike…

@EvansMTBSaga

7 ай бұрын

Your comment is everything wrong about MTB culture. Stop worrying about others

Vultures!