So now it’s time for the Pain Remains Trilogy

@brandonmoser8424

3 ай бұрын

Bring the tissues. Yes, you read that correct. Bring the tissues

@JariJuslin

3 ай бұрын

In Pain Remains even the guitar solos make you cry. Adam really made them sound heartbroken, tormented and anguished.

@nb1inheaven788

3 ай бұрын

Or he can react to Will Ramos when he sings like "acapella" (ok there is some music behind, normal) to schow poeple it's real what he is doing with his voice ...

@SatanicTatertot

3 ай бұрын

YES THIS

@tcntad87

3 ай бұрын

And sun//eater, welcome back o'sleeping dreamer, into abyss and so much more

The drummer is Austin archey and he is a phenom. He pulls all this off while looking like he'd rather be scrolling Facebook than drumming

@224cam

3 ай бұрын

He needs to watch his video with meinl cymbals

@Thatoneguy73822

3 ай бұрын

The Meinl vids are insane!

@heffatheanimal2200

3 ай бұрын

Mental image of Austin Archey, Aaron Kitcher and Tomas Haake having a drum-off and looking half asleep

@JamesWoodardJr

3 ай бұрын

He could sleep playing the drums

@dead-claudia

Ай бұрын

dude literally does a lot of this stuff high off weed iirc

I didn't think Will and Elizabeth are siblings. I'm fairly certain Will was still unknown to her when she first reacted to Lorna Shore

@lockdown66681

3 ай бұрын

For sure not siblings but are good friends now.

@kasonglover1638

3 ай бұрын

Strong sibling vibes though.

@JariJuslin

3 ай бұрын

I am pretty sure they are not siblings by blood, but otherwise, certainly.

@bshell1731

3 ай бұрын

They're not siblings.

@LeperMessiah2

3 ай бұрын

Not siblings.

Also this is Deathcore, and i agree with some previous commentators, the Pain Remains Trilogy will leave you in awe of just how beautiful deathcore can be.

Pain remains 1,2, and 3. With lyrics pulled up. And tissues.

@NikosPaktitis

3 ай бұрын

Lots of tissues.

@danielnazworth9134

3 ай бұрын

Tissues every single time I listen to it.

@JariJuslin

3 ай бұрын

I concur.

@BigBoy4004

3 ай бұрын

Oh, so true.... 😢😢😢

@1JGabe

3 ай бұрын

There's actually a video up now with all three videos together and lyrics on screen

My wife asked why I watch reactions more than the original songs and I used this video as an example. I def listen to the original music unbroken, but listening with you feels like I’m hanging with a friend being equally impressed by something we both love

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

That’s awesome! I’m honored.

@erintucker2116

3 ай бұрын

Agreed. It is a special kind of joy to witness someone experience music that’s on your playlist for the first time and have their mind blown. As I get older, it only gets more fun.

@Rabbs14

3 ай бұрын

You only get to listen to a song for the first time once in your life. Reaction videos let you live that moment again and again through other people... THAT is why I watch reactions.

@frankhermansen243

3 ай бұрын

And sometimes they see(hears) something you hadn't noticed, and thou you heard it for years and years, you learn something new

@shawnannul

18 күн бұрын

That's exactly what I told my wife. She hates this music, and I just want to share my love of this with somebody, and a reactor may pick up on something I missed.

"Do you understand the lyrics" No mostly not, but the best way I can describe it is that the vocals are like an extra instrument adding to the total in its own unique way.

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

That's fair.

@corrob

3 ай бұрын

@@teckreactions this guy is correct, think of extreme vocals as an added percussive element at times. if you read lyrics along with, over time you can understand better, but extreme vocals are more about adding to the instrumentation. i love this band, seen them live twice and they are so tight, and Will sounds amazing live.

@dinglemccringleton

3 ай бұрын

this right here

@bighead074

3 ай бұрын

I've never listened to metal screams for the vocals. It's almost always taken as another "percussive instrument" instead of as a singer.

@stevefancher1871

3 ай бұрын

It really depends on the band and pronunciation of the words for me. I can understand maybe 70 to 80 percent of the time when a band does this type of vocals.

1:00 whaaaat? They aren't siblings, they met through youtube. Elisabeth was saying she wants to stick camera down a metal vocalist throat for a while and Will was first one who agreed.

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

I could swear I read somewhere they were related.

@borzydar1196

3 ай бұрын

@@teckreactions maybe all the comments "they have sibling energy" decieved you :D

@Alphablight

3 ай бұрын

Also I swear it’s his kid

I don't know if anyone else answered this yet or not, but the name of the genre of music they play, I believe, is Symphonic Blackened Deathcore.

El esteperino siberiano has a reaction to Lorna shore's drummer with an isolated drum track. You should definitely watch it.

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

On it.

I think you’d enjoy Will’s one take vocal playthrough for this tune.

@heffatheanimal2200

3 ай бұрын

Ohhhh yeah. It's surreal to watch 🤯

LS are considered 'symphonic blackened deathcore'. Do Will's one-take vocal of To The Hellfire (the song is basically about dying and going to hell), then do the Pain Remains trilogy, where things get REALLY extreme and emotional.......

Man you HAVE to do the Pain Remains Trilogy. It’s like a deathcore ballad. I get chills throughout the entire trilogy

@depthsofeden

3 ай бұрын

Yes, Pain Remains. But also... Geaux Tigers. ;)

@danielnazworth9134

3 ай бұрын

@@depthsofeden chomp chomp!

Your resident Atheist Buddy Checking in! Fantastic reaction! Your excitement at all the breakdowns through out the song, without knowing what the final breakdown was, was awesome. Because when it all culminated in that final breakdown your face was priceless! Also i highly appreciate that you were not afraid to rewind and reabsorb the guitar solo, and final breakdown. Lorna Shore has some of if not the MOST tasteful, yet well suited solo's mixed in to all of their songs. I can pick almost any Lorna Shore song, Extract just the solo, and play it for someone who has 0 interest in this style of music, and those people will be blown away by the solo's and leave them asking who the band is. You Did Great man, no one was ready for this song, when it came out, it fucking shattered everything else around it. This in combination with Slaughter To Prevail's "Demolisher" came out within a year of each other, and they drastically changed the landscape of modern deathcore. It went from, in my opinion, a Dieing Genre, to the forefront of every metal head's playlist. So to say "I was not ready" is the norm on this one man, even for a lot of metal heads like myself. It is indeed time for the Trillogy. Do the whole trilogy, with lyrics on screen. Someone on youtube has cut all three videos together, with lyrics, this is the next reaction. for sure.

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@fyermaniac12

3 ай бұрын

I would suggest watching at least the first part of the trilogy (Dancing Like Flames) on its own. While it is a three-part song, the way the first part ends really contributes to the message of the song imo, especially if you are following the lyrics.

I’ve been listening to this type of music for close to 40 years now. (As long as I can remember) I don’t always understand the lyrics right away, but generally it’s much easier as you listen to it more. Also, as others have said, the vocals are more like an extra instrument. Although, the lyrics are important to the overall story of the song, not understanding them right away doesn’t take away from it. As for the drummer. Austin Archey does use triggers, but it’s really more so he can get a more consistent sounds from his base drum. He’s using a heel-toe technique, coupled with triggers. When you’re going that fast, the heel hits will still be powerful, but the toe hits aren’t going to hit quite so hard, so the triggers just balance that out. Also, as others have said. It’s time for the Pain Remains trilogy. I’d suggest doing all 3 at once, with lyrics if you can. Have tissues handy.

@GramadinGG

3 ай бұрын

Yeah W comment. Everything I was thinking throughout the video wrapped into 1 comment lol

@LeperMessiah2

3 ай бұрын

40 years? What band sounded like this back then? I grew up with early Maiden, Megadeth and Metallica before I went straight to Old School Norwegian Black metal. For me NB was the first to even start to sound something like this (I know it's not as it's a totally different teqnique) and that was in the early 90's

@kenny240

3 ай бұрын

@@LeperMessiah2 it’s been an evolution of various sub genres of metal over the years. But, first wave black metal and early death metal started in the mid 80s. I was still pretty young at the time, but thankfully my parents didn’t pay much attention to what I was listening to. And since then I’ve always listened to the heaviest stuff I could get my hands on. It wasn’t until the early to mid 2000s that it finally started to become well-produced, and audible anywhere that wasn’t a live setting. They being said, I lost count of how many times I’ve seen cannibal corpse live.

@LeperMessiah2

3 ай бұрын

@@kenny240 I was not part of the cassette copy chain letter scene and decent quality(not really) wasn't available until then tmk

@kenny240

3 ай бұрын

@@LeperMessiah2decent quality was never really available. Lol. At least not as far as I was aware. It pretty much always sounded like the guys just got together in a noisy garage, and hooked up a crappy mic to a boombox, started the cassette recording and started to play.

If you find the Meinl cymbals drum cam videos with Austin Archie playing Lorna Shore tunes it will answer many of the gear and technique questions that you had in this reaction. BONUS: You will see that despite the blistering double-strokes on the kick, this dude has a look on his face like it isn't difficult...possibly even boring.

@dragonemperor5195

3 ай бұрын

pretty sure his eyes were closed for one of the videos or at least part of it.

@davidlegnon9696

3 ай бұрын

​@@dragonemperor5195 Austin was actually sick and had 2 compressed vertibrae when he recorded that session, and still made it look effortless. 🤘

austin is a monster on drums, he is that good at playing that fast to the point that he’s practicing hours a day even when they’re on tour

For me, the more i listen to things like Lorna shore, the more i understand the words without looking them up. But i also see the vocals as another instrument, even when i didn't understand it, the vocals express so much. I recommend the pain remains trilogy but them. And also drum playthroughs by their driver Austin

Pain Remains Trilogy. All 3, back-to-back. Epic

I've listened to metal for a long time. So I can understand a lot more than someone hearing it for the first time. I still read the lyrics usually my second listen through and then once you've read the lyrics you can almost hear everything crystal clear. Especially the more you listen to the song you can pick up where things are and how each metal artist in their own way pronunciates everything. Also Slaughter to Prevail his lyrics are half English and half Russian. So naturally i don't know Russian but i like to pretend I do when I'm jamming. But Lorna Shore definitely is my go to metal band right now. I can't not get hyped or goosebumps when I listen. I also think the drummer did a solo run of this song to showcase how he does what he does if you wanna check that out. Slaughter to Prevails drummer is a robot and produces amazing blast beats with the kick drum. I believe the drummer for Lorna Shore is also just a beast lmao. But I could be completely wrong.

Austin uses footblaster triggers, which are actually on the kick pedal rather than attached to the drum head. Helps to prevent accidental triggering since the triggers gotta be super sensitive for these speeds. Also, yes, for the faster double bass he's doing double strokes. I'm gonna also jump on what some other commenters have said and suggest you do something like Sun//Eater before hitting the Pain Remains Trilogy. I think it's better to hear more of what Lorna has to offer before jumping into a 20 minute song from them, especially given how much of a departure Pain Remains is from basically the rest of their songs. And yes, when you do Pain Remains, you should do all three at the same time. It's just how it was meant to be heard.

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@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

Ah ha!

"What the hell was that"? 😂 That's was the best breakdown ever🔥

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

I didn't say "hell." :-) But it was sweet.

@AKJACKAL99709

3 ай бұрын

@teckreactions Well why the hell not??? 😄

@Carnage0708

3 ай бұрын

Watching this on my lunch break dying laughing

@aditsu

3 ай бұрын

​@@AKJACKAL99709because it's a baaad bad word 😂

For me its like learning the language of each individual vocalist, Take Will Ramos, and Alex Terrible for example. They are two WILDLY Different speakers, There are massive differences in how Will pronounces a word and how Alex will pronounce the same word. You could compare them now, because both Will and Alex have Performed Pain Remains I: Dancing like flames. But first you need to react to the Original Pain Remains Trilogy AS A WHOLE. There is a youtube video where all three videos have been cut into one continuous video WITH LYRICS over layed on the video. This is the best way to react to the Pain Remains Trilogy.

This is how you introduce a new vocalist. Will made me love deathcore. So Lorna will always have a special place in my heart! :) The chorus on this track is huge and so catchy! I love IT :D

I'm glad we made it! I was disappointed when I saw the discord message but the video was blocked. So happy we've made it through. 🔥

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

We're here!

I'll chime in on the question about understanding lyrics - I juuust started dipping my toes into deathcore, probably a month or two ago. I started with Slaughter to Prevail, and did what you're doing here - followed along with lyrics in front of me to understand what they're saying. For them, obviously kinda hard since, yanno, Russian. But here for Lorna Shore, I just started listening to them THIS WEEK, and having the lyrics in front of me gave me a deeper understanding of the songs and allowed me to really take in the music, breaking that barrier down of "I can't even understand what he's saying, don't think this is for me." I've now listened to their latest album around 6-8 times over...just this week. Having those lyrics on Spotify going helped me to love their music.

You have to do the pain remains trilogy now by lorna shore. Bring some tissue

I've heard this categorized as symphonic, blackened deathcore.

So glad you got this unblocked! The song is literally about a soul descending to Hell. I'm not too much into different labels, but LS are considered deathcore. Their trilogy Pain Remains 1-3 is something as rare as emotional deathcore. Check it out (but bring tissues)!

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

Bring tissues to this kind of music?!

@julianaserrano1756

3 ай бұрын

@@teckreactions it is weird but yes... maybe you wont get emotional but there is a chance :) I always cry seeing the pain remais, it is brutally sad and beautiful. Hope you get to react to it!

@rielnotermans

3 ай бұрын

You sort of get used to this and appreciate the sheer beauty of the mayhem. It is delivered with so much nuance. Even in this song. The pain remains is less agressive but for me it is more like raw pain and hopelessness and that can really get in your throat. Really really good.

@JariJuslin

3 ай бұрын

​@@teckreactions: The Pain Remains trilogy reactions are one of the best places to look into if you want to see grown men cry. I had to listen them quite many times before seeing Lorna live to not break down in a concert 😀.

@dead-claudia

Ай бұрын

@@teckreactionsthe lyrics to that trilogy have cut a lot of onions in front of people, if you catch my drift

In this genre its pretty much the norm for drummers to use triggers. Also I think the drummer, Austin Archey, is using a heel toe technique don't quote me on that, but he has a live play through of a few of Lorna Shore's songs he is a BEAST.

This isn't really my genre, but I admire the skill level. There are drum playthroughs of Lorna Shore songs and one take vocal covers, that I actually enjoy more, than the official recordings. I also recommend Will Ramos (the vocalist) covering Chokehold by Sleeptoken. Greetings from Germany

Pain Remains 1, 2 & 3

Deathcore fan here, over time you learn almost like it’s another language. I tell people starting to listen to hear the vocals as another instrument then go back and listen with the lyrics pulled up. The lyrics are really deep in a lot of deathcore songs .

Mom" kids can you help with the groceries? They're not that heavy." The groceries

@teckreactions

2 ай бұрын

HA!

You have to watch his vocal playthrough of this song. These vocals are effortless for him and he’s even more technical on the vocal one take than he is on the album track.. He even has a follow up video where he breaks down the techniques he uses in the vocal playthrough

@teckreactions

Ай бұрын

I've seen that. It's pretty crazy.

I don't think I'll ever understand all the lyrics on a first listen but the longer I listen to this kind of stuff the more words will be understandable on a first listen.

I`ve been listening to this band for the last two months and they are really amazing, and Will Ramos is amazing. They are the future !!! REALLY AMAZING BAND !!!

Of you haven't watched Chris Turner, the drummer from Oceans Ate Alaska, he is know as the cyborg because of his freakishly precise drumming, without using triggers or post production to adjust his album recordings

my opinion for me as a metal heads is, the reason why some people do love this kind of music it’s because the tension from all musical instrument in it. it kinda like gave us a darkness emotion at the same time, especially when the breakdown’s pops out, like a ‘drop’ in edm, it’s kinda give us more tension/emotion to feel the darkness.. btw loved your reaction🤘🔥

About the question of triggers you can find videos of Austin (the drummer) playing on the channel of MEINL Cymbals... This guy is a monster

Austin Archey is the drummer. I told you he sounds like he was made in a lab by drumming scientists. He does drum play throughs with Meinl cymbals. My favorite is "Into The Earth". I will warn you it is INFURIATING how calm he looks while he plays. This is blackened death metal/Deathcore. The choirs is a black metal element as well as the highness in his screams and then musically is more death metal. It's why I love them musically phenomenal and a mix of everything to the highest standard. And Will is just another level vocally. So glad you did this!!!

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

It's nuts.

@joshfayne3591

3 ай бұрын

​@@teckreactionsyou gonna hear this A LOT but Pains Remains trilogy neds to be next. Best done all 3 videos in one. A lyric video would be best but only warning I will give is bring tissues. Never seen someone do a reaction to the trilogy with out tearing up.

@VivK-Real

3 ай бұрын

​@@joshfayne3591 tears here, every time.

@paulriddle7818

3 ай бұрын

@@joshfayne3591 They did that play through a few weeks ago and its nearing a million views.

@syafikahmad7476

3 ай бұрын

Dude was sleeping while killing the drums..wonder what he can do if he awake..😂

Hey Teck, like your video as usual. You can find a lot of "One Takes" by Lorna Shore depending on what you are looking for: Will Ramos (Vocals) and Austin Archey (drums)...

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

I'll check it out!

You have to do the one take vocal playthrough that Will does to this song!! You can see him doing it live in a studio in one take!! It's incredible!! You wont regret it!! Thank you for your reaction!! 😊

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

I'll check it out!

8:15 "my final breath, swallowed by the womb of death"

Pain remains trilogy with lyrics. And prepare to feel feelings.

I had to read lyrics and then I’ll never not understand the song. That was a big part of why I never got into this kind of music when I was younger (never read the lyrics) with “to the hellfire” that’s what I did and it opened up this entire genre to me.

When it comes to understanding the lyrics, it usually depends on the band. Some vocalists are easier to understand than others, but I always give the lyrics a read over along with the song and that's usually enough to let me understand everything on later listens.

May not be a popular pick, but Will Ramos covers a song by Chelsea Grin called Recreant, with Nik Nocturnal. The mix on it is really amazing where you can hear the totality of his range, he does a series of crazy growls, snarls and highs and you can see closely a bunch of the mouth shapes he makes to generate those sounds since he films it in his studio. You don't need to know the original song to appreciate how monstrous he is in this cover.

also definately pain remains next, all three. there is a video that shows the music videos with the lyrics at the same time

14:31 that was a pig squeal, yes, its literally known as "pig squeals" because thats what it sounds like, its very characteristic for the deathcore genre

Elizabeth and Will are not related. She just discovered this song and Will when it was released a couple years ago. They're a great team now though!

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

I could swear I saw somewhere they were related.

@joshbyrns654

3 ай бұрын

@@teckreactions I had to rewatch her first Lorna Shore reaction to confirm she wasn't aware of him before that. It's awesome seeing everything they do together now!

@roryasrorri701

3 ай бұрын

​​@@teckreactionsThey weren't related _before_ Metal makes all of us brothers and sisters afterall 😊

@paulriddle7818

3 ай бұрын

@@roryasrorri701 Yeah Will just attended his actual sisters wedding. Hes from New Jersey just outside NYC and Elizabeth is from Eastern Washington along the Columbia River. And Elizabeths husband Kirk is from San Diego.

@Anuta6675

3 ай бұрын

Elisabeth definitely adopted him :-D

Saw them perform this live at Download last year, it was spectacular!

Pain Remains Trilogy, official video with lyrics and with a box of tissues

Austin the drummer does a few drum pkay through of lorna shores music where you can just watch him and his kit. It's amazing!!

Their symphonic elements are great. They really give off good ole power metal vibes and i love it.

You should check out some of Austin’s drum play through on the Meinl cymbals channel. Dudes an absolute beast and looks like he’s asleep while he’s doing it

Symphonic deathcore at it's best. Each of these gentlemen, including Michael Yager not yet in the band, are virtuosi on there instruments. Austin does use triggers, definitely check out his drum playthroughs on the Meinl Cymbal channel. Adam is a magnificent guitarist, and is the primary music writer. Again, great playthroughs on KZread. Will is , as I read once, like being handed a hyperactive puppy. Real nice guy to talk to, total sweetheart. When I saw Lorna in concert, this was the encore. They had already played over an hour, including the entire 20 minute "Pain Remains" Trilogy. Even if it isn't your cup of tea, it's amazing to see that much musical skill take place in real time. As to the lyrics, I have only been listening to stuff this heavy for about 4 years, and always have to read the lyrics. Kinda like going to the opera and not understanding the language it's sung in. Have to read the libretto.

I've been listening to this type of music since the 90,s and still do, and I'm 59 years old

"That breakdown was awesome" Oh boy, get ready lol

Actually Will does his vocals completely healthy. I like your videos about metal. Please more!🫣

As a drummer you want to watch the Austin Archey videos from Meinl Cymbals. To Fokus more on Wills great screm/growl technique you want to watch his one-take performance of this song.

The drummer for this band is a freaking beast on the drums!!!

I understand 80-90% of the lyrics from most harsh vocalists, but I have been listening to all genres of metal since the 90's. It's like a dialect, you have to pick up the speed, cadence and patterns and then it becomes fairly clear. Will Ramos(and others) does just make brutal sound sometimes, he does it like 3-4 times in this song, but most of this is as clear as if I was reading it.

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

Interesting

Yes! Love the reaction! Gotta do Pain Remains Trilogy, emotional and brutal....it really separates Lorna Shore from the other bands in deathcore

The lyrics are understandable with time, you can hear them or tbh sometimes its just not happening especially if said lyrics are not enunciated for the sake of sounding cool. What you said fits so well, its like learning a new language. Great vid!

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

I see

For Death Metal at least for me, it's all about how long you hear the singer do the vocals along with the lyrics where you'll start to pick up what they're saying. Then whenever a new song is out you'll understand more and more how they like to pronounce their words. But it's not always a 100% understanding more like 80 or 90% with some wrong words.

I have watched a lot of reactions to this song and this has to be one of my favorites. The facial expressions were killing me.

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

There are Austin Archey drum cam features by Meinl Cymbals. You need to see one, maybe this one if available. They are amazing as is Austin.

Austin archey uses heel toe axis longboards and yes uses triggers. Watch his drum play throughs he did for Meinl cymbals

@teckreactions

Ай бұрын

I have one up already.

this is considered deathcore and austin archey is an absolute animal, his play thrus of some of their songs with meinl will blow your mind

No one really understands the lyrics without looking them up. But having lyrics at hand until you can hear them without help is an age old custom in metal music. And in opera, too.

For your question about understanding the lyrics, it’s a bit of both. I can understand the lyrics better than someone who doesn’t listen to this kind of music regularly, but I’ll still need to look up the lyrics most of the time to catch everything.

Oh and Live he can take the pig squeals far and beyond Will, is a whole new level bro

14:41 "that was a freaking animal" well, that is technically correct. You might also enjoy the "Man or Beast?" video by Revolver where they asked Will to guess whether a sound was made by a metal vocalist or a wild animal. It's harder than you think.

When you learn the individuals vocal style (yes like a different language) it becomes natural understanding.

I highly recommend to watch Wills one take vocal playthroughs. Impressive as hell!

About understanding the lyrics, it depends heavily on the vocalist and how often you listen to them specifically, and i guess, how often you listen to this kind of music. I find Will Ramos harder to understand than others, but then I don't listen to Lorna Shore too often despite liking their music. Arch Enemy, Jinjer and Electric Callboy for example are much easier for me to understand. This song is Blackened Deathcore genre -wise.

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

When I was editing, I picked up some more words.

Archspire - "Golden Mouth of Ruin" for more crazy drumming. Maybe Drone Corpse Aviator for something _slightly_ slower from them.

Spotify has the instrumental versions of the albums, which i absolutely love. I like wills vocals, but i also like hearing just the music.

Yes! So glad to see it! Now you just need to check out Shadow of Intent - The Heretic Prevails to have hit the 3 best deathcore vocalists imo. Will of Lorna Shore, Alex of STP, and Ben Duerr of Shadow of Intent. Then SoI has their new songs with their out of this world drummer Bryce Butler. He's also got some drum playthroughs on Meinl's channel. More Lorna Shore should be Sun//Eater and Pain Remains trilogy (full cut)

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

Sweet!

@VivK-Real

3 ай бұрын

I love SoI!!!! Going to see them live in 2 months.

What should you hear next from Lorna Shore? Depends. One of my personal favorite tracks is "Sun//Eater". It's got all the fantastic musicianship you heard here, but doesn't come off as* dark and gloomy, with cool and lyrics based on ancient greek myth. Do you want your heart torn out and scarred emotionally in ways you never in your dreams would expect possible from this kind of music? If that sounds intriguing then the "Pain Remains" songs are for you. It's like one large song split up into three parts: "Dancing Like Flames", "After All I’ve Done, I’ll Disappear", and "In A Sea Of Flames".

Yeah Austin uses double strokes when he plays really fast. It’s really shown in his drum playthroughs, and as far as i’m aware he does use triggers only to amplify the sound since he has to play softly to get that fast. I could be wrong about that though

In response to your question of if we can understand the lyrics, the answer is kinda. Like others said its more of an extra instrument and we just like the way it sounds. Especially people like Will who do something different. Also, if you want to look into them more, other people said the pain remains trilogy, but as a drummer i would recommend sun eater

I could be wrong but if i remember right the drummer is straight heel and toeing that kick like an utter mad ladd

Will Ramos and Elizabeth from the Charismatic Voice are not related, she first met him when she interviewed him in 2021. In that interview she asked if he would be willing to have a small camera down his throat to see what is going on when he screams and he said yes. Which started a great friendship between the two. Based on something Elizabeth’s husband has said there will be another video similar to the throat camera video coming out in May on her channel. I don’t understand the words unless I watch lyric videos a few times. After I watch them then I understand what he is saying. I understand about 90% of this song. Austin the drummer does use triggers. The song about the process of dying and going to hell. As for what’s next, Of the Abyss and And I Return to Nothingness are also on the same EP as this song or the Pain Remains trilogy ( bring tissues. If you are sensitive to depictions of suicide you might want to watch the band play through instead if f the official music videos).

I looked it up and Austin (their drummer) uses a Footblaster Drum Trigger System No idea what that means cause I'm not a drummer but I saw "trigger" and assumed that's what you were talking about Also Lorna Shore is something along the lines of blackened symphonic deathcore, in other words they're mainly deathcore with elements of black metal and symphony

Might have been mentioned already but Austin Archey has a couple playthrough videos on the Meinl KZread page, definitely worth watching if you have questions about his technique and stuff.

I don't always understand the lyrics; but it's not always about the words as it is the raw emotions the song evokes. Now.. a beast on stage; but that dude is the most homiest of homies. Golden Retriever energy. Alex Terrible is the same way. I got to meet Alex and the gang and it's night and day from off and on stage.

The song's about dying and descending into hell. Also Austin Archey (the drummer) rolls heel-toe to get those robotically precise kicks. Their lyrics are super poetic and if you like albums having an overall theme or story, the whole Pain Remains album tells a really cool tale about a man who enters a lucid dream and leaves the world behind to become a god - but there are consequences and realizations he faces. Super cool, check it out.

Oh if you are a drummer, then you HAVE to see Austin Archey play. He is the beast you hear making all that noise, it will melt your brain.

@teckreactions

2 ай бұрын

I did his playthrough of Cursed to Die.

Definitely don't understand the majority of the lyrics at first listen, but if you listen again, along with the lyrics, you'll hear a lot of the lyrics. The drummer Austin Archey is insanely talented. He does his own one take playthroughs where you can see a lot better what he's doing. And it's almost like he's playing with his eyes closed. He's so relaxed playing this crazy stuff. The Pain Remains trilogy is on a whole other level. Have you ever wondered if Deathcore can be emotional, check it out.

Another vote for the Pain Remains trilogy. Bewarned: It is emotionally heavy. (As others have said, tissues!) I'm a whole 2 weeks into my deathcore journey, which I started by listening/watching To the Hellfire and Pain Remains until I thought that I could properly appreciate them. It eventually clicked, in a beautiful aha moment, so seems to have worked. For the initial watch I'd recommend reading through the lyrics before each video, for some tone and context, then just enjoying the ride. The videos carry the story, so going back and forth to the lyrics would probably be more distracting than helpful. If you're planning to do more, definitely go back and listen w/ the lyrics next though. I found it easier to start to recognize nuances of the vocals when I knew what was being said. TheWillRamos' one take playthrough of To the Hellfire would be good homework since it only has the one vocal layer, so it's easier to pick up things. Then, if you really want a deep dive, he also has an analysis vid of the one-take where he walks through what techniques are being used. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iINnsLWBm5bdnJM.htmlsi=nquG93-_Le2rUI3m

with extreme vocals it depends. for some vocalists/styles you get an ear for it, some you may need to look up, and some you HAVE to look up because they are so purposefully distorted that its nearly impossible to understand. Wil, personally is a mix of the first 2. some of his vocals i can understand on first listen, others take a few times, or look up to be sure.

You asked about understanding the vocals - it's kinda 3 things, for me at least, and I suspect the same for most folks. In part, yes, you learn over time to understand it better. Also, some vocalists just have clearer diction, same as with clean vocals. And lastly, probably the biggest one, I've heard best put as that a lot of us just hear vocals kind of like an additional instrument - more about the sound than the words

And now "Winter" from Synestia/Disembodied Tyrant

The Drummer Austin Archey is a machine. no tech from the videos i have seen of him playing his kit with a kick drum cam so you can see.

To answer your lyric question. First time stopping by your channel. Drummer myself. Subbed. Brand new album - I can understand some stuff first time through. Most of takes a few listens. Plus, for me personally; highs are a bit tougher than mids and lows. Overall, I tend to treat the vocals as an instrument in themselves.

@teckreactions

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

So firstly I'd like to say if you're interested about the tech from the drummer if you search up Lorna Shore drummer playthrough a video should pop up at the top of him going through I think its 3 of their songs and you can clearly see his set up and it helps with the camera angles. 2nd I suggest looking up Chelsea Grinn their current vocalist is this band's old one before Will. Extremely good band. 3rd I have been listening to this type of music for about 15 years now and I will say with some songs you can clearly hear the lyrics 1st time around bit this song I still cant understand a lot 😂 what I used to do is I'd follow the lyrics through the song and it all becomes clear and over time it is like learning a new language.

Watch the drummers playthrough from drumeo. Austin is a beast. And so relaxed through the whole song.