Dang you’re the first person that I’ve seen that’s disappointed in this book.

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't want to be. I was sad

@PreppinShootinLivin

3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t like it either. Love The Farseer and Tawny Man trilogies but didn’t even bother with the second book in this trilogy.

I felt exactly the same when I started actually. I really missed Fitz, and I was mostly reading Liveships to fill in the gaps between Farseer and Tawny Man, but as you go, the reason the characters all kind of suck becomes clearer. A lot of these books explore dealing with imperfect people in an awful world, and a lot of those themes really start to come together as you finish (and the characters grow *a lot*). I won’t say I didn’t miss Fitz, but by the end I felt a little sad to leave all these guys too

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I hope to only grow to appriciate it more :D Thank you for sharing!

I completely, thoroughly and VEHEMENTLY disagree. (obviously this is not news to you) I like your new camera and set up. Looks great once you're muted. LOL

@StaceyReads

3 жыл бұрын

I was totally searching for your comment specifically!

@TheNerdyNarrative

3 жыл бұрын

@@StaceyReads ROFL!!

@micheledion2000

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Lezlie, can't vehemently agree more, but everyone is allowed their opinion. Maybe Mad Ship will win him over.

@TheNerdyNarrative

3 жыл бұрын

@@micheledion2000 Here's hoping!!

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

You can still be my best friend. Even if you are wrong

Oh no, Andy is going to be devastated.

@QandTG

3 жыл бұрын

I just want to be in a group text between them and see the dialogue lol.

@alexnieves

3 жыл бұрын

@@QandTG lmao

@micheledion2000

3 жыл бұрын

Yikes, I loved this book!

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

We did have 15-25 minutes of dialogue back and forth on Voxer lol

@QandTG

3 жыл бұрын

@@QuestLegacy Was this recorded so you can share with the masses? lol

Aww man, too bad that the book didn't live up to your expectations! Personally, I really liked these characters! I liked how thoughtful and introspective Wintrow was, even if he had a bit of a holier-than-thou attitude and was incredibly naive. I liked Althea's stubbornness and how she refused to give up on her dreams, even in situations where she was abrasive and arrogant. I even liked Malta's scheming personality even though the things she got up to were... quite something in this book. Following Kennit was rough, but even then there's something fascinating about how skillfully and successfully he manipulates the people around him. I guess what I'm trying to say is that even though these characters are incredibly flawed in different ways, weirdly enough that's actually a big part of what made me relate to them and invested in them.

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts! I genuinely do enjoy finding out the ways that things really click with people and excite them even if they don't jive with me. I can definitely see how those things might click with someone! I will say that Wintrow was my favorite character in the book I think and I enjoyed his journey the whole time!

@ngalliongmc

2 жыл бұрын

I just finished the first 100 pages of SOM and this is very much how I’m feeling about these characters. I love the setup of “here’s a character with insane personal strengths who also has massive character flaws.” Even without knowing where the plot is headed, I can feel significant character growth coming and I’m here for it.

I have to say that I felt exactly the same as you did while reading Ship of Magic... However, the second book had some redeeming qualities and by the time I got to the third book, I was hooked. Although I never really got connected to the characters like some other readers seem to, they did definitely grow on me throughout the whole series. The scope of the world (and plot) keeps expanding with each book and 'secrets' around the magic are quite cool once they get revealed. I hope you will also have a better time with the rest of the series! If not, then I can assure you that the Tawny Man Trilogy will not disappoint... it is so good to be back with Fitz!

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, here's to hoping book 2 can sway me. I think even if I strongly dislike them I will push through because I REALLY want to get into the Tawny Man stuff!

So I too jumped right into this series after loving the Farseer trilogy and I didn't like it so much that I DNF'ed the first book. I jumped straight ahead to the Tawny Man Trilogy and loved it even more than Farseer. I keep meaning to come back to Liveship but there is always something else I want to read more.

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

Part of me was tempted to do that with this one lol. I'm going to try and push through

@oscarandino9230

3 жыл бұрын

I am also so tempted to do that to. I'm in chapter 10 right now and none of the characters have stuck out to me yet. I feel like nothing has happened. I miss Fits and Nighteyes. We are packed. 🐺🐺

Gasp! Keep reading! I had a bit of a struggle at the start of this book because it was such an abrupt change from the Farseer Trilogy (which I knew going in, but I still anticipated more obvious connections and tie-ins). But I would very, very much recommend you keep going - I don’t want to give spoilers, but the character arcs and worldbuilding developments are incredible as you go along! The Realm of the Elderlings is my favourite series of all time and all the payoffs are worth the effort.

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I will do my best to keep open minded when I get to book 2! I hope that it keeps evolving and hooks me!

1st. Congrats on 3K MK!! 5K will be here before you know it!! 2nd. I'm sadden that you didn't like this bro! This was going to be our first Forray into Robin Hobb, but some of our watchers convinced us to do Farseer Trilogy first. And now you have as well. 3rd. Great video as always! Lmao @ your hate for some of the POVs

@micheledion2000

3 жыл бұрын

I absolutely loved Ship of Magic. Ok I grant that he sees one of the characters as "whiney" but that poor guy...well we can hope Mad Ship wins him over. BTW, you guys got a great channel

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys! I really hope I don't steer you wrong! Farseer is my jam tho

Just finished Assassin's Aprentice today, and started Royal Assassin a few hours ago, so this couldn't have been better timed!😍

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I freaking love Royal Assassin so much. I hope you click with it the way I did!

@MakatAlexander

3 жыл бұрын

@@QuestLegacy Yeah, Robin Hobb is a MASTER of character, and I am really enjoying the ride.

I'm sad that you didn't like this book, but I totally get it. If you don't connect with the characters, you really can't love the book, because the plots are so character driven anyway. Like you said, if you think all the characters are making stupid decisions... I loved the books because I did connect with so many of the characters. I also really appreciated Hobb's craft here. The multiple perspectives really opened up new ways to see the characters and better showed the conflict between them. We really got both sides to most of the conflicts. And, of course, the funnest part of these books for me were the interactions of Brashan and Althea. Yes, they are idiots sometimes, but they're idiots that I love and ship. I hope you enjoy the next books, for your own happiness :). I'm looking forward to your review videos for them, either way.

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

Brashen and Althea grew on me (well, I loved Brashen the whole time and Althea grew on me) and I really hope that book two can continue to sway me on this one. I definitely don't want to miss out on the fun (and hurt) everyone else is having with this trilogy!

I totally agree with you but in the long run I was so glad I finished the trilogy just for the connections to the Fitz and the Fool's story line that come up as the series goes on. Its very clever the way Hobb does this. Basically the third trilogy(Tawny man), even though it goes back to Fitz's point of view, will bring the story lines and some characters from both the first (Farseer)and second (Liveship) trilogies together. Just my opinion but I think you would miss out if you don't read both. Also the other comments are right about some character growth and a more flushed out plot as you get through the next two books.

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

Ok awesome! I was hoping that moving forward we might see some of this stuff be relevant and tie into the other books as well. Thank you for sharing!

I read the first novel recently and it's the best fantasy I ever read. Idk what you talking about , but the writing is exquisite and top grade . The action is good too and the plot ,but character development and the way it is written is the best fantasy so far ,and certainly for Robin Hobb .

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

That is awesome that you enjoyed it so much! I'm hoping that the rest of the trilogy can bring me around!

My thoughts will have spoilers so stay tuned to my voxer message 😆

I may have commented this before... all of the various Fitz books are my all-time favorites. I have re-read and re-listened to all of them many many times. But, I read the Liveship books once and that was enough. I’ve tried to reread them a couple of times and just can’t. I didn’t dislike them, they just aren’t up to the same standard as Fitz! The only thing I really appreciate about them is the brief connection we find to Fitz and the Fool much later in Fitz’ narrative... and you could Google that without reading the Liveship books. 😂

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing! I need to just power through these to get back to my sweet boy Fitz lol

I think people who thought Farseer was too slow and didn't like the first person POV are the ones that rate Liveship a lot better. I loved Farseer, and I enjoyed Ship of Magic, but yeah I didn't feel as connected to the characters this time, but I'm guessing that will come.

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I never really even felt Farseer was slow except in AQ, but I guess I'm in the minority haha. Here's hoping both of us enjoy the characters moving forward!

@nikosbookreviews

3 жыл бұрын

@@QuestLegacy I'm definitely willing to give Hobb the benefit of the doubt! I'll be starting Mad Ship tomorrow so guess I'll find out!

I was really looking forward to LiveShip Traders. I heard about it before I heard about Cosmere. Great review mate :) Also, congrats on 3k!

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I seem to be in the minority on this one, so I wouldn't use this as your only detractor.

Thank you! I thought I was going insane with how many people had raved about this series. I was a big fan of the Farseer trilogy and I could not stand the majority of the characters in this book. I am almost done with The Mad Ship and some of the characters have gotten a bit better but they still are infuriating when they get offended or hung up on slight issues with another characters etiquette even when what they are saying is much more important.

I’m a huge Fitz trilogies fan, they’re my favourite books of all time, but I couldn’t get through Liveships or the Dragon ones that are also in the Elderlings series. Straight DNF both & googled them instead in prep for Fitz and the Fool.

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

Oh dang! It is nice knowing I'm not alone with my struggle here!

Have you read the others? I loved Farseer so much but am really struggling with Ship of Magic. I’m trying to get through it right now after DNFing a few months ago, but I’m thinking about doing it again because it’s such an unpleasant experience for me right now. Your review echoes a lot of my thoughts and I haven’t even gotten past 25%! 🥴

@QuestLegacy

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't yet picked up book 2 in this trilogy. I would like to continue for the sake of my love for Fitz and Farseer, but I haven't mustered up the motivation at this point.

Thank you for your honest thoughts! As a plot driven reader who so rarely connects to any characters, I was kind of wondering how I would feel about Ship of Magic and whether it was also the type of book, like AA, where you almost have to connect with the characters in order to fully enjoy the plot. I now know what expectations I should have when going into Liveship! 😂

I didn't read but I relate to your pain man and CONGRATS for 3K!!!!!!!!!!

@lostinabookcase3796

3 жыл бұрын

Same!! I'll still read it when I can 😅

I disliked Farseer. I actively hated Liveship. 😂💀 I just hate her characters. That being said anyone who complains about Fitz being whiney makes me crazy. HES A CHILD. The worst possible things happen to him endlessly. Id whine too!

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

That's too bad that they didn't click with you, but yeah I'm a massive Fitz stan lolol

In particular, I love the overarching narrative about learning about the relationship between the Rain Wilds and Bingtown (and the magic systemy stuff -- I dont remember how much info you're working with after book 1). I also loved Kennit's failing upward. Those were really the two things that I clung onto from book 1. Book 2 is my favorite of hers that I've read so far (first two trilogies, havent started Tawny Man yet).

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I am really interested in more of the Rain Wilds/Bingtown history/lore. That stuff fascinates me and is the most interesting aspect of the story for me right now. I'm excited because it seems like that will get further fleshed out as we go!

I loved Farseer and Live Ship both. The first book in Liveship is a set up book just like Assassins Apprentice. It is a big change with multiple POV and it’s not first person so it’s understandable you didn’t connect as much. Without spoilers it sounds like you were frustrated with the decisions main characters made that took them on this journey of change. I connected with those decisions from the point of view of a society that had largely recognized the benefits of equal partnership between the man and woman of a household but had recently been forced to adopt a patriarchal view through the influx of immigration from another culture. Everyone (women in particular) are on shaky ground with trying to figure out their place and how much they can push the new cultural boundaries. Later books will expand on character growth and the tie with the Rain Wilds a great deal. I look forward to see how you feel at the end of the trilogy.

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing what you liked about it! I understand how those elements were addressed but I still had a really hard time following all the lines of logic. I am also hoping that book 2 can shift my opinion.

Hello, I felt the same way about Ship of Magic. It took me a long time to finish it and the only reason why I finished it was because of everybody saying how incredible this series is! I struggled with this book because it is all character development and world building. But let me tell you, it sets you up for one heck of a ride! I have finished Realms of the Elderlings series and my favorite trilogy is the Liveship Traders! I’m glad I found your channel and good luck to you!

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing! I am hoping that approaching book 2 with a different set of expectations will help me out!

Before you Robin Hobb my hype for this book, the lighting looks great

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think I have seen anyone NOT love this! I haven't read any Hobb yet though so we will see when I get there

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I'd listen to the other people. I seem to be the crazy one here lol

So I think what I loved about the Liveship Traders was how the characters change over the three books some for the better some for the worst. But even more than that was how you get to a certain point and go "wait when did I quit thinking this character is a complete idiot???"

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I'm hoping to have that evolution of character change my mind moving forward! Thank you for sharing your experience!

Possibly its a disappointment because you dived in not long after Farseer whereas I had an eight month gap. The magic of Farseer is really the way you change your opinions of the characters. Also i love the pirate culture and this country has a much richer history than the six duchies in my opinion.

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

That's true. I did only have about 3 months of gap between the two. I am hoping that book 2 of this trilogy sways me a bit

I kind of agree with you. I didn’t struggle with Liveship Traders as much as you did, but I realise now it was only because I was in a hurry to get back to Fitz :) There was also a secondary character I loved blindly after spoiling some things for myself. I hope you get to the Tawny Man trilogy one day, you’ll probably like it. I’m currently struggling with Rain Wild Chronicles and I have the same issue with it: the characters are annoying. I guess Robin Hobb writing multiple POVs just isn’t for me. A lot of people do love the Liveship Traders. My friend loved it more than the Farseer because more things are happening, there is significantly less overanalysing (Fitz does that a lot) and more characters to choose from. Althea seems to be a very popular character:)

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I'm just hoping as everything evolves in book 2, I can bear some of it more. I was quite close to wanting to DNF this book. I'm glad I finished it but it was a challenge. If I do push through this, it will just be to get back to my boy Fitz lol

It would be really interesting to see you do a spoiler deep dive with another booktuber that loved the book - maybe Andy or Philip Chase.

@TheNerdyNarrative

3 жыл бұрын

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

That could be interesting. Its also possible that in book 2 I change my mind on everything. We'll see

You know what...I actually feel the same way. When I rated the book after I had binged the Farseer Trilogy and loved each book progressively more, in this trilogy (The Liveship Traders), I rated the books progressively downward (starting with 4.5, then 4, then 3.5). I have gone on to Goodreads and adjusted my ratings to show my thoughts since reading it. IF and WHEN I do a reread, I will adjust the ratings appropriately...showing my thoughts at the beginning, to when I changed them (now) and what I have come to feel about the books (when the reread is completed...some time in the future). I really agree. If I hadn't of read The Farseer Trilogy, I definitely wouldn't have finished the series. Unfortunately, the trilogy only gets slightly better IMO, but not significantly. You basically have to muddle on with these characters that continually do things that you wish they didn't. I liked the ship aspect, but even towards the end of the trilogy, the mystic of the ships and where they came from was diluted by over-explaining the "why" and I was less interested in the Ship's magic at the end...than I was when I didn't know as much. This is just my opinion. It definitely is an unpopular opinion. Love or hating characters. YES, I'm with you. Should I like/love this character? Should I hate this other character? I'm with you. I was always wondering what the author's intent was...and if I was ONE with the author's intent, OR just not vibing with what she was going for. I hear you. I TOTALLY agree. The writing was a Step DOWN from the Farseer Trilogy. Did you peak into my mind? I was thinking the same thing. Wow! Yes, again...this is only my opinion.

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

Wow. Yes you described some of my issues here better than I could articulate. Yes

@grafffuller3265

3 жыл бұрын

@@QuestLegacy - You are too kind. You were the nudge that I needed to be able to say what I was feeling. It is really cool to hear a similar feeling, then know what and how to say it. I think we needed each other in this instance. Thank you.

Oh no! Well, I appreciate hearing a differing opinion to balance my expectations. I'm about to start The Realm of the Elderlings starting with Farseer in April. Thanks!

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I reaaaallly hope that you love Farseer. That one really worked for me.

I am a die hard fan of this trilogy, so as requested I will attemp to explain myself. I do not think it will help you much, though. I loved all the chatacters. I enjoyed reading all the PoV's. I often don't care for switchibg PoV because I get attached to the character, but in LT I enjoyed every single one. Ok, except for the sea serpents, which were thankfully brief. Now I realise my feelings on this are the exact opposite of yours. I respect that. I just did not find any of the characters overly flawed or dumb. Some of them I of course found despicable as people, yet I still enjoyed reading about them. Why? I think Robin Hobb has exceptional insight in psychology, which shines through in LT. She will not shy away from the fact that even decent people can make evil choices when pressed enough, even evil people can actually, possibly inadvertedly, cause some good effect in the world. Everyone has their own struggle and trauma, much like we do irl, and the character lies in how they deal with it all. They are all coping, some are struggling, some are failing and some learn to thrive. I feel that no matter how different these characters' thoughts might be from mine, I get them. Sometimes it's even a tad disturbing, since some of them have a pretty messed up minds. But it is enjoyable. It is like a conversation to read about them. But I won't say "Go on, it gets better." I perdonally was hooked from the start. But if by the end of SoM you are not interested in the characters, I would not hold out too much hope. The series extremely character driven. If you think the other stuff can carry you through, then go for it. You like what you like. My aim was to explain and converse , not throw any shade. Nice to hear an opposite perspective to things.

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts! I genuinely do love hearing why things work for other people even when they aren't resonating with me as strongly. I do think that now that I've had some time away from Ship of Magic and I can adjust my expectations I might like book 2 more. I do hope to get to it sooner than later.

Intersting! I'm of the complete opposite opinion! Liveship trader trilogy is one of my top 3 series of all time. And I enjoyed it so much because of the characters. The emotional payoff in the last book was amazing. And one of the upsides IMHO was that there was no Fitz, a protagonist that I never really grew to like, didn't really care about, and mostly was annoyed by (have read all series in the realm of the elderlings and my opinion of Fitz never changed).

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

Nooo! That hurts to read! Fitz is my bestie! But I'm glad LIveships was so awesome for you!

I've read the first 13 books (only having not read the last trilogy), and though I pretty much find most of the books to be middling, this was my favorite series of the Elderlings books. Can't really go into detail about why. I remember liking the plight of the ships and sea dragons, but it's been years so much of the detail is gone now, and as I stated, I think pretty much all her books a mediocre, so I will not do a re-read of any of the series.

Couldn't connect with any of the characters? *YES!* Finally someone agrees with me! (btw, I'm still stuck at 150 pages, haven't picked it up since November, I think 😅 I mean, why would I want to read about an uncharismatic pirate captain, creepy kid or someone like Althea?!!) What is the character that you wanted to dnf the book for (please say Althea 😂 - she's the main reason I'm considering dnf-ing the whole Realm of the Elderlings series - I've only heard praises sung in her honor and I dislike her so much that I wanna chuck her overboard from her own beloved ship 😂😅) The only kinda sorta likeable char for me is the first mate char atm. Although I've also heard that ship chars are more likable and worth following than humans. Is that true? 🤔

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

So you aren't even fully into the WORST character in the book so far. Somewhere past the 50% mark there is a new completely intolerable POV introduced. Althea was also awful though she gets a bit better in this book. Kennit is a monster imo. I'd agree with the ships being the most interesting characters lol.

@natasagajic1061

3 жыл бұрын

Is that worst char perhaps Althea's sister? I heard that if I don't like Althea, I'm gonna dislike her sister even more and I don't even know if that's possible 😂 I also don't know how Althea could be redeemed in my eyes 🤔 Was Kennit her brother in law? I don't like him, but hey, he actually stood up for his wife when Althea called her own sister a whore, so at least there's that (so far at least). Good to know that the ships are interesting chars - I desperately need somebody to root for in that series as I'm losing interest in it by a day 😅

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

@@natasagajic1061 Kennit is the pirate guy. Kyle is the brother in law. The worst character for me so far has been Kyle's daughter.

@natasagajic1061

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, that's right! I haven't picked up the book for so long that I mixed them up 😄 But the pirate captain is pretty terrible right from the start, so I can totally imagine him being monstrous. Oh, that's not comforting! I don't think I heard anyone warn me about her (or maybe I am mixing up names again 😂). Is she Malta or is Althea's sister Malta? That's the char I have been warned about.

I didn't like the assassins apprentice I dnf it but I will give the liveship trader series a try 🤔🤨

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I hope it works out better for you!

😂😂😂 I'm dying. Lol. I need to be sure to read this to decide who is right... you or Lezlie.😹

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I'm probably the crazy one here. I'd bet on Lezlie.

Thank you for your honesty. I have heard about the whining in this book and it has kept me from trying it.

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I'm definitely the minority opinion on this one, but if whiney characters are not your jam.... this has a selection of them haha

I have read the first six books of the farseer series before I started the ship trilogy. I read the second book last year and will read the third this. What is keeping me reading is actually the love story 😅 between Althea and Brashen (dunno if that are their Englisch names I read in German) but I understand what u mean. Most of the characters are just to stupid and blind it seems, it will get better at the end of book two tho. But I wouldn't say one must read it before continuing with farseer. Farseer is by far way better I think. But I dislike ship fantasy books anyway 😅🤣

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I hope that book 2 picks up for me. Part of me is tempted to just continue on with the Fitz stuff, but I'll try to push through here.

Wow this really turned me off from Liveship and I might just skip it to keep up with Fitz. We had very similar feelings about Farseer and not having characters to care about and people letting terrible characters keep doing their thing for no reason really detract for me, so thanks for the warning!

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I'm definitely in the minority here, but yeah... it was rough imo

This year book-wise hasn't been outstanding for me. I'm about to just give up and go on a re-read binge. Of course I always feel guilty re-reading books because my TBR list is so long I'll need to live as long as Methuselah in order to complete it.

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

Mistborn Era 2 has been so awesome for me so I'm not having too bad of a time so far

@kimbarbeaureads

3 жыл бұрын

I've been in a quick and fluffy reading mood. Sanderson is a bit verbose for this mood. I've got a couple mid-grade to try before I give up. 😊

I thought this was going to be a farce. Clickbait. You gonna say something like, “this is my most disappointing because it is the only book I have read this year. Hence, it is the best and also the worst so far this year” But that’s not it. You genuinely didn’t care for it :( Much love, Amy

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I was so sad. I so greatly wanted to love this one :'(

Damn, your reaction to Ship of Magic is like mine to Malice by John Gwynne... Personally, I didn't have any bigger problems with this trilogy and found it good and enjoyable - despite a certain incredibly annoying character :-) However, I actually first read the three Fitz trilogies and then returned to this one and then later to Rain Wilds.

@QuestLegacy

2 жыл бұрын

I need to continue with this trilogy soon. I'm hoping that I'll be able to enjoy book 2 more knowing what to expect more.

I loved farseer and felt very meh on ship of magic

I feel the same! I loved the first trilogy so much so I was really excited to read the ship of magic, but I am not enjoying it. I don't feel anything for the characters. I just hope it gets better as I have bought the trilogy. ☹️

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

Hoping book 2 works better for both of us!

@sharonrose5134

3 жыл бұрын

@@QuestLegacy Well just to let you know I have read the mad ship and ship of destiny and sadly not my favourite. Just finished Fools Errand, brilliant but Robin Hobb has broke me! You will know what I mean if you read it.

I'm 130 pages in, and I have a real struggle to give a damn...

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

This was me lol

@DirePantsDim

3 жыл бұрын

@@QuestLegacy just finished the book and now I hate most of the characters...

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

@@DirePantsDim yeah. I feel you lol

I just started this video and I'm scared...

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see a KC rant on this one, but frick its so long

Naval fantasy always makes me scared

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I don't have a ton of experience with naval fantasy. The only immediate ones I've read that I can think of are part of the Redwall series, but they were awesome!

Yet George Martin liked it. I think imma go with that haha.

3k!!!!!!

@ChristyLuisDostoevskyinSpace

3 жыл бұрын

I wholeheartedly agree; I stopped reading at 40% and couldn't work up the motivation to start again. There were some glorious moments promising magic and adventure to come...but I just couldn't care about those without believable characters. The characters just...annoyed me *wince*

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

This comment gets no heart since you ABANDONED ME

@ChristyLuisDostoevskyinSpace

3 жыл бұрын

@@QuestLegacy 😭😭😭

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChristyLuisDostoevskyinSpace I will heart the justified crying emojiis of your betrayal guilt

Well, at least I know now not to rely on your book opinions.

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

I presume you are a big fan of this one. Were you a big fan of Kennit and Althea? By the end of the book Althea had started to annoy me less. I assume she is going to be a character that gets a lot of growth moving forward. Kennit seemed like a character that might have been an inspiration for the "Jack Sparrow" character who I did like, but Kennit himself didn't click right. Amber and Paragon's arc was interesting to me, but really sat in the background of this one. I assume that continues to evolve as well.

@illinirick1

3 жыл бұрын

@@QuestLegacy It is one of the best trilogies I have ever read. Don't give up on the series as a whole, it is worth your time. The evolution of the characters in the story is one of the things that is done so well by Ms. Hobb. I have agreed with most of your opinions on other books (although I will never read Twilight!). Keep up the good work

@QuestLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

@@illinirick1 Thank you for your thoughts. That is encouraging as the redemption arc storyline is one of my favorite types of storylines. I am still planning on continuing along with The Mad Ship still and I figure even if the Liveship Traders trilogy doesn't work for me, i'm DYING to get back to some of my other favorite characters. I wish this one could have clicked with me more. I'm messaging all my friends rn who loved it to hear what I might have missed lol

Hard disagree, I am unsubscribing!!!!!

@kimbarbeaureads

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂