This is the third video in a digital minimalism series. My follow-up videos on this: ④ Switching to a 2015 budget Android in 2021 - kzread.info/dash/bejne/q6Oj3NuPgtenidI.html ⑤ Back on an iPhone, but as a digital minimalist - kzread.info/dash/bejne/gnauqNOQibe6aKg.html Previous videos in this series: ⓵ I switched to a flip phone in 2021 - kzread.info/dash/bejne/qpes1rWYfs7MmKQ.html ② Flip phone after 2 weeks - kzread.info/dash/bejne/paCX1cWGqLGaiaQ.html

@favouraguebor

2 жыл бұрын

Have you ever tried WhatsApp voice calls?

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

@@favouraguebor they don’t work on this phone as of the time I tried for this video, just voice messages

@danteerskine7678

Жыл бұрын

​@@PGBlanks I have the Nokia 2660, a good flip phone, not the greatest, the 4g modem is useless, the Opera mini browser Also is crap, it has an expansion slot up to 32gb, Bluetooth a2dp is pretty good for connecting earbuds and headphones. Not a good phone for a primarily daily driver but a very good mp3 player with bt 4.2 a2dp and a good secondary phone to have outside to keep you less obsessed with smartphones. Sounds masochistic but it does work

@PGBlanks

Жыл бұрын

@@danteerskine7678 how's the 2660? is it buggy at all? i found that with the 2720 it was struggling to do really basic dumbphone tasks like search contacts. or sometimes my alarm clock wouldn't go off :/

So good, young people realize the deception and finally turn back into the right direction. We all need to quit social media and be more FACE TO FACE dependent.

@islandboy4445

Жыл бұрын

I agree, but I think I also just enjoy not socializing at all 😂

I'd buy it when I get the chance. The phone still fascinates me till now, although I never had it when I was young. The flipping is the best aspect of the phone so I'll use it mainly for taking calls. While I'll use my bigger phones for other things

I remember on my old flip phone back in 2010 there was a parameter for the tiping of messages that was sooo much more fast : let's say you wanted to write the word "cat", you just had to press one time each button containing the letter you want, so in that case 2-2-8, and an algorithm would thin out the words possibility. The longer the word, the best it worked. Your videos on this particular model fascinates me, I love the approach you take and the multiples tries you allowed yourself to have. Besides, that is a very good-looking flip phone imo. Hopes this helps !

@Nico-mi2pr

25 күн бұрын

Isn’t what you’re describing T9?

Stumbled across your channel yesterday, and i’m really digging the content + editing. Keep it up, bro! Love the insight you bring about your experience with a flip phone.

@PGBlanks

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Kevin, this motivates me to work harder! Stay tuned for some followup content :D

Great update! Thanks for sharing your story again :)

@PGBlanks

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Jose! You've been a great inspiration and source of knowledge since day 0 of this journey.

Great points. I am really considering switching to this flip for detox reasons too. BUT, two big deal breakers for me are no spotify and no mobile banking applications. Music is the only way I entertain myself during journeys. I cannot read books or even look at screens for too long because I have severe motion sickness. I know there are music apps but manually downloading and adding music seems too much of a pain, especially if there are new songs I would like to explore. Coming to mobile banking, in the country where I live (Sweden), transactions through BankID are used everywhere, and many times to even verify identity. But I guess I can still depend on my physical card for payments, and use my smartphone for BankID. If these two features have a workaround, I would switch in a heartbeat.

@issataysissemali3203

2 жыл бұрын

Idk I used to carry around my mp3 player together with my flip phone back in 2015, so it wasn't much of an issue for me. Maybe u can try doing something like this as well?

@alimataylor4618

2 жыл бұрын

get an mp3 player

Hope you are well and thanks for making these videos 📹😊

Love your accent bro! This is a good take on how to apply digital minimalism effectively because of the lack of features flip phone can provide. Worth to try hehe. 128 to go, keep it up!

@PGBlanks

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks sir! Di ko alam kung baka nagkakaAussie accent nako hahaha. Actually I think in the Philippines the "dumbphone" market is much more exciting, so it would be interesting to see what's out there for you! Is it something you've wanted to try? Here as you can see we're quite limited with the choices and the actual software isn't great :(

Honestly appreciate your update videos.

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, and I appreciate your kind words!

I use the Catapiller S22 Flip as an alternative to my iPhone12 (Many of its features broke after updating to iOS 16). I wanted something that was simple and had the ability to fully use all apps in a pinch. I use google maps and a browser for work nearly the entire time. Both work just fine using the touch screen on the S22 and I'm not hindered by it.

Thank you for also mentioning my comment at the beginning:) I think you're right saying it's best feature is the lack of features! It's really nice you returned to flip phones. Why do you like it better this time that last time you used a flip phone?

@PGBlanks

3 жыл бұрын

i think just a mindset thing really, I realised that in this setup, my phone is just a call and text tool, not a source of joy or entertainment.

Interesting decision sir! I might try this one day as I'm journeying into minimalism as well.

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

What have you tried doing for digital minimalism so far? Yung feature phone market sa PH mas diverse at maraming options. Also I assume they are keeping 3G for longer so pwedeng gamitin yung mga Nokia flagships from 10+ years ago tapos supported pa rin.

@KuyaRap

2 жыл бұрын

@@PGBlanks I removed all my shopping apps para less temptation to spend. Nagdeactive din ako ng FB for 5 years until my recent side hustle came so I needed to market myself effectively, hence reactivating it :( pero in FB web view, I'm using a chrome extension to hide the newsfeed so I won't waste time scrolling :D

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

hi, how about trying minimalist launchers / parental controls? Are you on Android or iOS?

Excellent 👌 I switch back and forth from S10 plus and kyocera dura xv and I really love the flip phone

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

Is your S10 still holding up well? I hear the kyocera is much better than this 2720. Wish we had more options in Aus

I love that you pick bright colored phones... sad I can't find a minimalist phone in a color now that I like.

A Filipino guy 🇵🇭 in Australia. 👍🏻 Keep doing these videos. I own two flip phones: Razr 5G and Z Flip 3. It doesn't stop my online addiction though. 😂 They're still too feature-packed. I'll play emus on them.

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

Haha nintendo ds emulation on a z flip seems like the dream! Thanks for the support man

Good video man! Very glad to see videos about other people's feature phone experiences. I still wonder if the photo shown at 4:08 was taken with your ipad camera

@XPaBliToOX

Жыл бұрын

because seems very good quality. However, you showed it inmediately after "its not very good quality" refering to your ipad camera. So that's when I got confused xD

This phone is still not a "great" phone, but I've accepted that that is its best feature is its lack of features. Have you used any of the Nokia KaiOS devices, or have you done any 'hacks' to reduce your smartphone usage? I'd love to hear about your story below.

@yohanaamon5182

3 жыл бұрын

I have used other KaiOS devices, similar torture in accessing contacts. I waited so long for upgrade update hopping to improve but never.

@kaloyankostov9834

3 жыл бұрын

i think you should regret your purchase because basic messaging and google maps were promised, but the phone didnt keep those promises. sluggish menu and contacts app is straight up inexcusable for a phone of this category - if you get any old feature nokia no matter how basic it is you would never encounter problems like these. also ive seen complaints about the battery and camera which again - nokia phones had okay cameras before, coming from a low-end lumia user as my last nokia also the brand is known for the loooooong battery life of their devices. imo kaiOS is to blame for the software problems since its a young OS and not an exclusive OS to the company therefore its not well optimized (the same way low end android phones werent).

@PGBlanks

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaloyankostov9834 It's definitely a terrible phone. But I've already paid for it and I can at least try and appreciate the side-effects of having a poor-functioning phone as my daily driver. Basically it makes me not want to use my phone and so my screen time has reduced so much!

@TheTuareg

2 жыл бұрын

When you type, you can activate T9. Typing will be much much faster

@nxel2

2 жыл бұрын

How's the gps maps directions?

Fellow Sydneysider here. Am going to sleep on purchasing. But this lockdown has made me come to the same realisations you have about my phone usage. Really motivated to buy the phone and keep my Samsung s9+ and all that digital baggage in the bag and out of my head. All the best!

@PGBlanks

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words, mate! If you don't need this phone to have any online features, I recommend you try and look for other alternatives. (Nokia 225 is pretty good apparently). If you saw my other vids about this phone, it actually doesn't do 'basic' tasks all that well (like calling and texting).

@spencerstandish9095

3 жыл бұрын

@@PGBlanks Well we will see. I bought it today lol. I do appreciate having the google assistant for searching online (without typing) plus the hotspot abilities. And tbh the flip is addicting. Even if I use my other phone 50% less i figure it's worth it.

Hi, just wanted to say that you can use a Garmin GPS for your vehicle if you can't use Google maps on your flip phone, and you even can buy a nice digital camera to take with you for photos and videos. Then you can keep using your flip phone 🙂

I have used other KaiOS devices, similar torture in accessing contacts. I waited so long for upgrade update hopping to improve but never.

I have this one for the purpose of getting away from a smartphone periodically. I just put call forwarding on and go out. People right negative reviews about the this phone because it can’t do certain things . But the whole purpose of the basic flip is just calling . I like it a lot and get away from starring at a phone all the time

@PGBlanks

Жыл бұрын

I totally get you! Problem I had with this phone though was that it was buggy in even the basic phone features at times :/ Now that we are not in lockdowns though I might revisit, since I won't need to scan QR codes anymore.

@user-ri1dv9uh8z

Жыл бұрын

Hi whattsap still working now ?

For some reason, iPhone users feel like they're life is accustomed to unlocking their iPhones and check their social media. I was an iPhone user, got really sick of it. I switched to Nokia, bought an affordable android Nokia phone. Been using it for a year. I promise you, it feels different. I don't use social media pretty much everyday I just check the news, KZread, and for messaging. Was a social media "addict" haha idk about you guys but this, worked... For me. If you want to value your time, find a hobby or something to work on rather than just scrolling.

Thanks for this. Thinking of getting a feature phone for the same reasons as you. Does the WhatsApp app do voice messages? As I see this as a nice workaround to typing

I bought the Nokia 225 4G running S30+ as a digital detox device it's wonderful, T9 testing is a snap, like riding a bike, you never forget how, good call quality, unfortunately I cannot commit fully as I need certain smartphone apps that have no equivalent for feature phones, what I do instead, divert my calls to the Nokia and leave the iPhone in my bag.

@PGBlanks

Жыл бұрын

Nice! i wish i got the 225 instead of the 2720, was just enamored too much by the flip, but apparently kaios is a worse experience than nokia’s own OS. That’s a good approach. I feel since I work in tech it’s absolutely necessary to at least have a smartphone around (even if just on wifi) for things like authenticator apps

@Zenguy89

10 ай бұрын

@@PGBlanksis KaiOS that bad?

Goooooood

I was at a store a week ago, recycling some old phones, and to my surprise, they had a few flip phones on display-those marketed towards seniors. I picked one up in my hand, just to check it out, but was seriously underwhelmed by the hinge. Felt very cheap and likely to fail. How is the quality of the 2720's hinge?

That day I moved oud. I realised how mutch I was using that thing. Nothing was done in my household. So now I have a Nokia 2720 and a iPod touch 7gen. The battery and screen on a iPod is small. So I can do my household.

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

That's smart! I'm using an iPhone SE now and the size is small enough that it's not overly addictive.

Great video.... And thought process... My biggest 'worry' about ditching my smartphone is losing the calendar, as I find it very useful (and I don't want to go back to a pocket diary!) How use able is the calendar on the 2720? Will it remind you of events etc?

@PGBlanks

3 жыл бұрын

Calendar is actually pretty decent! As long as you build the events in some other device, it does notify you properly and you can set 10-min-before notifications

@michaelchew4932

3 жыл бұрын

@@PGBlanks thanks for the reply! When you say another device, does the calendar link to Google calendar or similar then?

@PGBlanks

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelchew4932 yup exactly, you can sign in with your google account and it can sync every 30 mins to pull whatever’s in your calendar. hope that helps!

@michaelchew4932

3 жыл бұрын

Thats interesting! many thanks for the info!

Awesome Video PG!! the only platform I have is youtube!

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I have a smart phone but never use its' smarts because I detest the technology, lol. They have zombified the planet. Thanks to your video, I now feel better about ordering the Nokia flip phone as my call and text gadget. It will be the home phone that I can take with me!

Hi, just wondering did the Nokia ever get the issue sorted where WhatsApp notifications weren't altering the user. Only when opening the app did the user see that they received a message.

Hi, I am hoping to purchase this phone for my grandpa for his own independence (he's living alone, I am located in Melbourne, covid sucks). He has bad vision and bad hearing. Could you please share how easy it may be to set speed dial and also how to put the phone on loud speaker? Your help is much appreciated ! hope you are keeping safe and well

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there. Thank you for your kind words. Loud speaker is easy enough, much like the old Nokia phones, but honestly... this phone is not super intuitive to use for things like speed dial. I couldn't figure it out easily myself without looking up a guide online, so if your grandpa is not super tech savvy it might be hard. I do know there are phones geared towards seniors here in Australia -- like even ones with SOS buttons and such -- maybe check those out?

I have an old Nokia Lumia 520 and a Lumia 640xl. They still run smoothly and don't support any smartphone app. I may use them to reduce my smartphone addiction.

@PGBlanks

3 жыл бұрын

oh man those old Windows phones were amazing back in the day. I'm tempted to buy one super cheap just to see if it works better than a flip phone. At least with those I can easily text relatively lengthy messages if need be.

@JazzyJazzRock

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, I loved Lumia phones. Great build quality and cameras. Also, a qwerty keypad blackberry can serve well. Things changed since the phone start supporting fast charging and started coming up with big battery backup. Now ppl can't take a break. Looks like the world wants to overload our mind with information which causes stress and anxiety.

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

I'm also considering an old BlackBerry but unfortunately the BB10 and older devices are going to be rendered unusable early next year supposedly. And the BB KeyOne is just too expensive used right now... Look forward to hearing about you trying your Lumia!

I ordered the phone yesterday and damn I am so scared! That’s the exact reason why I NEED to detox, that’s not healthy at all 😂

@danteerskine7678

2 жыл бұрын

Detox my ass. Do you think that Kai os which is a google os for keypad phone will help you?? If you think that then try to change your brain instead of your smartphone

Gidday, Im trying to find info on Google assistant with this phone. Is this phone able to be used with Google assistant for voice to text in SMS or whatsapp? If so whats it like? faster than typing? Also can you use Google assistant to "call mum" or "Text Mum", that sort of thing?

@PGBlanks

3 жыл бұрын

Good question! You can use voice to text for SMS/WhatsApp long pressing the center button kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWx3qKuEo8aYiaw.html On my phone this loads up Google Assistant to then type it out for you. A bit slow but will be faster for really long messages. There's also voice messages on WhatsApp so you can use that as well. I tried the "call mum" type but that doesn't work though.

watching this video on a nokia 2720 flip phone :)

I tried the nokia 225 4g, it's s30+ not kaios and more basic, but couldn't stick with it and went back to my iphone. Just learned to have more self-restraint, deleted the more useless stuff like social media apps but kept youtube both for its usefulness and entertainment. The smartphone is the ultimate communication device and except for weather, maps and the inherent pda functions... that is how i basically use it now. But if there was just a modern, no bloatware, s30+ nokia e71 with that old premium feel and a physical qwerty in silver/grey, i would go back to an ipad for everything else and just have that. That's where I'd allow nostalgia to trump functionality. There's just an unexplained satisfaction that i got with the old nokia button presses that isn't present in the pre-5110 and later thin, plasticky feel E-series models.😂

@PGBlanks

3 жыл бұрын

Oh man, the E-series was AWESOME. I wonder if it’s still supported on my Aussie network. I also tried using the dumbed down iphone route, but it was sooo easy to get everything back in that I relapsed after a few months :(

Bought one yesterday. Can't wait to get rid of my smartphone 🙂

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck!

@davidhenderson7722

2 жыл бұрын

@@PGBlanks think I'll need it as I think I'm guna struggle not to got back to android 😂

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

I think the struggle is part of the journey haha. Even if you go back to Android after a few weeks or months you will feel hopefully less of a twitch to keep glued to your phone. At least that is what happened to me!

@dwmexe9474

Ай бұрын

Do you still own it?

Hi. Where can I buy a Nokia 2720 in 2024? I tried looking around and there’s too much fake units

How's battery life?

Life on smart phones can be very difficult

I'm buying one of these as I'm fed up of my android phone

Good save 😅

I've never used the Google maps. I have a Garmin gps that works much better where i live.

I have a question on this phone, I’ve been considering buying it for a long time now but I still don’t know if you can actually listen to WhatsApp voice messages on this device, does anybody know?

Can you delete KZread on this device? Thinking of picking one up. Also can you use voice notes on WhatsApp?

I feel like Samsung Galaxy Folder 2 G1650 is better than this Nokia 2720. Been trying to find that Folder 2, but to no avail 😔 still expensive tho.

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

Damn the folder looks nice!

is it worth to buy with 120 bucks? Actually i am trying to downgrading to smartphone

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's a bit expensive too be honest, for what you're getting, at least. Depends on how much you need the "smart" features. Cause the smart features aren't really implemented in a way that are helpful or user friendly IMO (slow and kinda buggy). If you definitely need the smart features but are just looking for a cheaper / lower spec phone, try an Android device in the same price range?

I need a goddamn new blackberry, but this one will do for the time being

Should I buy this???

@PGBlanks

Жыл бұрын

Might not be the best choice in 2023 as this phone is quite old already

How long does the battery last?

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

If you have 4G on it only lasts 1-1.5 days unfortunately, so when I would use it I would just keep everything offline and it could last me like 5 days.

Can you download Spotify on the Nokia 2720?

@PGBlanks

3 жыл бұрын

Not on this one due to KaiOS unfortunately

hi , did you get the new WhatsApp update? it enables voice calls

@PGBlanks

3 жыл бұрын

Not on this phone, unfortunately. I hear it is quite random, some have it and some don't, but not sure what models have and don't have it nowadays. :/

@ezzdd641

3 жыл бұрын

@@PGBlanks yeah they just released this update this month for all kai os phones with 512 mb ram , can you check ?

@emileschumacher2977

2 жыл бұрын

Any news on this? It would be a dealbreaker for me

Can it do QR code, because I bought an Innovations flip phone ,but no ( necessary these days,) QR ability /

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

There is a qr code scanner but it's very unreliable because this phone's camera is not good, so you will need perfect lighting and you'll need to be very zoomed in.

@nancygaston4095

2 жыл бұрын

@@PGBlanks I am so computer/mobile illiterate needing such advice. Thank you SO MUCH esp since Sydney still needs QRs . Got to think about this phone...

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

@@nancygaston4095 ahhh yes I would just recommend an entry level Android phone so at least you can have access to Service NSW and QR codes and all.

Whatsaap is working?

the Nokia 6300 has 3X the internals to support KaiOS

@PGBlanks

Жыл бұрын

Are you finding it a much smoother and bug free experience? If I had to do this over I would just buy a standard dumbphone without any of the bells and whistles of KaiOS.

Watapp calls work ?

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

Just voice messages but not calls as far as I know

whatsapp has a desktop app

I don't recommend this phone. It's not cheap enough to be that sluggish, and standby time is dire. You don't expect to charge a phone every day and a half when you barely use it - that's with full signal and with data on or off!

@PGBlanks

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's not a great phone at all, but it's all I have right now and it works for a 'minimalist' phone if all I want to do is call / text with it. I'm spending less than 30 minutes on this phone a day which fulfills my goal of reducing screentime. But if I were to expect this to have usable smartphone-like features it would just fail.

@tunstali

3 жыл бұрын

@@PGBlanks Yeah that's why I bought it originally! I do 12 hour shifts and then sleep straight after so was surprised that after one shift and sleep I'd wake up and it was dead(after such minimal use). I bought it since it had Whatsapp, but the battery drainage annoyed me so i went for the galaxy folder 2 - another flip but with much better battery life, speed & because of flip keyboards makes you not want to be on it all day. I've had many a dumb phone, but people don't tend to reply properly at all when you text vs I.M in 2021 strangely! Well in my case in the UK

@danteerskine7678

2 жыл бұрын

@@tunstali dude, there's a reason why big companies got rid of removable battery because removable battery are complete junks and there maximum capacity never exceeds 3000 mAh for a smartphone. With only a 1500 mah, don't expect the regular 2 to 3 days use of a Samsung Galaxy s21 ultra on a single charge. Only smartphone with a colossal 5000 even 6000 mAh can do that. Concerning the terrible battery life on Nokia phones, this is nothing new, I bought a Nokia 6680 new, a decade ago and the phone could barely last 4 hours without dying every time. Don't waste your time buying these kaios devices, and start using your smartphone properly by removing all these bloatwares named social media like I did.

@tunstali

2 жыл бұрын

@@danteerskine7678 not the truth as e72 gets 14 days battery life

@tunstali

2 жыл бұрын

on a 1500 battery

Can you use whatsapp web with this phone?

The real reason why he did this is because of the hate he got on his last video

@PGBlanks

Жыл бұрын

maybe ;)

Christ almighty what is wrong with people. Going on like giving up the smartphone is like a life or death thing. I have an iPhone SE 2nd Gen it spends 99% of time stuck in a drawer because it does my head in. I use the 2720 and before that I used a 12 year old Nokia 6303i. I work in the city and get absolutely pissed at people walking in to me or not paying attention because they are too busy gawping at this shit tick tok etc. I keep in touch with social media I have an IPad Pro 2020 with M1 chip that sits in my bag and I look at it when im sat down not walking down a street and nearly walking in to someone or walking out in front of a bus (im a bus driver happens all the goddamn time). How do you think we got by before smartphones? I started off with a Nokia 5110 no internet no Color screen no camera or anything like that.

I have NOT got a "smart" touch phone and do NOT want one !! I am getting a flip phone with NO apps

can you do whatsapp web from it?

@PGBlanks

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately not as of the time of making this video, it's a real limitation for me as I would've loved to just keep WhatsApp Web on. There isn't a functionality to scan the QR code from within this phone's WhatsApp app.

The dent in his head 💀