Imagine paying 4000$ for a device and Apple is constantly like "No, you not allowed to do that. You better only do what we want you to do on your device!"

@lunaticyoshi1

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, it seems little more than an expensive toy. It's why I've always avoided Apple products. Not to mention, you can get a 49" ultra wide OLED Samsung monitor and an RTX 4080 gaming PC for around $3000...

@three396

3 ай бұрын

@@lunaticyoshi1 and even an actual vr headset

@lunaticyoshi1

3 ай бұрын

@three396 Good point! A Meta Quest 3 with a full-fledged gaming PC setup still comes in at equal or less than the price of the Vision Pro.

@gingervald8601

3 ай бұрын

This aspect of Apple is a prime example of why I always get this mix of annoyance and dread whenever tech companies talk about visions of the future. It's never really about the tech itself.

@riverhurdle8216

3 ай бұрын

Hmmm idk man the thing you just mentioned sounded to me like any apple product

Now imagine if you can play Genshin in actual 3D environment with depth perception. HoYo might want to look into that.

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Yeah that would be cool, though probably not likely any time soon

@IrenHawx

3 ай бұрын

AFAIK that's something they want to do. An SAO-like VR experience is something they have invested money into researching.

@xdragon2k

3 ай бұрын

@@IrenHawx A new game then?

@matoiryuko9444

3 ай бұрын

@@xdragon2k i think it was a recreation of the sao world forgot the name maybe they change the world they create beecause last time i saw it was like 5y ago maybe they change and all idk never check the progress

@badiiin

3 ай бұрын

You can acctually do that with Windows + vorpX + Oculus Quest 2

Playing genshin was 1000% my first thought when I saw this thing 😂 I’m glad someone else thought of it & gave it a try

A GIANT SLOTH ❤🥹

Great vid, but my eyes were glued on that big Sloth the whole time.

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

As you should

it might not be a point of the video but thanks for the bedroom tour

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Lol was mostly a bedroom corner tour

just imagining using this myself gives me a migraine hahah but it’s fun to see you try it out!

Woahhhh, pleasant surprise seeing you! Easily one of my fav CCs. Excited to see more genshin or other games you play!

Fun little presentation! I honestly still struggle to take the vision pro seriously, it feels like a device that 90s techbros envisioned to be the future. But I have never tried any VR like experience myself so I wont judge the use cases or experience. I however could never get behind the whole apple walled garden concept, as you said, they want you to use the device as they envisioned it, not to be free using it like you want to use it. This is an issue of most modern tech though, with maybe the steam deck as an exception. Anyway, the market is open for a full on isekaied VR gacha experience! Probably any Rule 34 content will jump the gun first though ;P

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

If you live in the US I recommend at least trying a demo of it at the apple store. You will probably immediately understand the appeal and potential outside of just a game context

@truce.K

3 ай бұрын

@@Solunerra I am German so it will take a few more months until I will get the opportunity I guess, but sure I am open to try it out.

Your hair is majestic

@Lyney220

3 ай бұрын

Your pfp is majestic

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Lol ty, I still need to take care of it better. Eventually I will figure out a way I actually want it to look

I was actually thinking about this, and then I saw your video lmao

The fact that the Mac’s audio doesn’t come in through the headset is absolute garbage. And they expect people to pay over3k for it?

@banir3736

3 ай бұрын

You don’t even use it. What gives you the right to criticize it, when you don’t even know how it feels to use. lmao

@entegi

3 ай бұрын

​@@banir3736I have worn it and it does give you a headache after some time and a lot quicker than with other headsets. Its a cool device but unless you have a lot of disposable income its in no way worth spending the price of a used car on it

@zura5205

3 ай бұрын

Envy is hell of a drug

@Author_Gamer

3 ай бұрын

@@zura5205 lol, why would I want an priced apple product that is locked to the apple ecosystem.

HAZBIN HOTEL SOUNDTRACK SPOTTED !!!

I play console games by connecting the console through HDMI and a video capture card to my laptop, so you could do that to get a bit more latency and less cables. You can just use the OBS preview to see the screen after you do this

This is the craziest video ever in a good way

It's an interesting device for sure, wouldn't buy it personally but I can see the appeal. The way apple limits their devices is a huge downside to me

You could also side load the iPad version of genshin on the Mac using sideloady or even better play cover (has better game support) and then use the Mac display mirror……To take off some of the latency….it might be possible to side load to the Vision Pro if it has developer options to…not sure though as I don’t have one…

Wow... Your hands are cool!

@justlivinglife6315

3 ай бұрын

Are they 😅

Thank you for sharing, its really new for me, so vision pro it just like you've got mobile monitor everywhere. I think i next invention may e they have genshin in POV mode

i wear eyeglasses. do you have to wear them inside the headset to see things properly? if so, is there enough space inside?

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

There is magnetic prescription lenses that you need to use if you wear glasses (which is what Im doing). They cost about the same as good quality prescription glasses do normally

@marjanferdousi7707

3 ай бұрын

@@Solunerra ahh that makes sense. Thanks!

Do you mean that you can’t connect a controller to Visions Pro for HSR? Because I played it on iPad with controller and it’s okay 👍🏻

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I realized this after the fact when editing and put some text on screen for ot

@sebastiandijk8748

3 ай бұрын

If you can connect the vision pro to an ipad wouldnt it be easier to download genshin on there i think that would run way better@@Solunerra

@killerken2

3 ай бұрын

Ive been using a controller on the Apple Vision Pro for HSR only until some days ago when you switch to controller mode it’s just a black screen infinitely now it’s weird

Would you be able to share screen your iPhone and launch Genshin through your phone?

The funny thing is that you can download and play it on a meta quest (Idk about the original but v2 and up can do it) but hoyo hasn't implemented controller support in the android version so you basically can't do anything. So genshin on native VR is not really a thing yet sadly.

That elephant looks like hed be pinapple, lime, strawberry, orange and blueberry flavoured

You know damn well any man with a healthy plushie collection definitely strapped for the Vision Pro. Lol glad you are enjoying it and I’m sure Genshin Impact will come to the App Store natively soon

@iron_recluse

3 ай бұрын

I’m hoping Timi and Tencent bring Pokemon Unite to the VP and give us controller support.

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Haha wouldnt say Im strapped. I just have a decent bit of money saved from some decent past decisions (buying the vision pro is not a decision that helps maintain savings lol)

Apple hoping people will spend $3500 to be Beta testers so that in 10 years they can charge $5000 for the real thing. Jenshin players are always ready to part with their hard earned money

Thanks for sharing your experience, mind if i ask if that was your brother next to you ? Just curious because i really enjoyed his reaction and you've talked about him quite a bit before in your videos

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Yes it was!

We need a VR compatible version of Genshin

4k....You should have turned them all into Primosgems to spend on the standart banner

Surprised you didn't try using PlayCover on Mac… Is it ARM? Cuz TECHNICALLY you can use that to play on ARM devices like maybe the M2 in the Vision Pro butt… you MAY need to build it. Also Wifi6E would prob be faster than Gigabit wired. MEOW

One thing that you could try, get some IPL glasses or something that blocks light and modify it to just cover one eye, everything you see in the vision pro should be a holographic effect based on which colours are blocked by the glasses.

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

That’s an interesting idea lol

4000$ un vídeo. Este es el contenido que merecemos

Can you do this on Quest 3?

I don't think saying that you have a friend that worked on software side of vision pro is a good idea and how long he worked on it and you impling that you probably know a bit of behind the scene stuff not sure it works on apple too but you should be able to connect a controler to the vision pro and let parsec parse it to the PC so you remove the disconnect between you doing a action and seeing it there still will be a latency but you won't feel it as much I also hope that there will be native parsec app

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Parsec controller connection didnt work for me without extra configuration. I also hope there ends up being a native parsec app (or similar) eventually, would probably help a lot And I did check with my friend to make sure I could say some things or not lol, to make sure it didnt affect him. He’s not given me any specific info that is particularly problematic in general because he knows what he can or cannot tell me, and just saying I have a friend who worked on it is more than fine lol. Nothing much I said this video was directly influenced by what he has told me anyways, I just mentioned it since it was a primary factor for purchasing the product to me

It always surprises me how apple convinced me to not buy a MacBook and now not to buy the Vision Pro i will just stick to windows where i can actually play games on

wow, quest 3 can do that too, even better and cheaper

and my friends called me crazy for spending 70€ on a controller lol /pos

your hands are VERY expressive

face \{eyes} reveal letsgoo

@kagaminelen2652

3 ай бұрын

he showed his face before

@lowresboi23

3 ай бұрын

​@@kagaminelen2652 i missed it then

User: Can i have any ease, to do what i paid 4000 dollars for? Apple: No.

Cloud gaming should be a good way to play Genshin on the vision pro as well

@JPS13Laptop

3 ай бұрын

I mean sure, but people who can actually afford Vision Pro will probably still opt for a local setup.

I bought an xreal to do this lmao, and it disappointed me. Beam has horrible software and FOV is too tiny. Also screen is placed too high. Too many wires too. Sigh, I feel like that scene in Ironman where Howard Stark told Tony he’s limited by the technology of his time. We’re definitely in that stage of vr.

so using a VR headset that is only like 600 bucks would be way better

@Bifragura

3 ай бұрын

Does Genshin run on the Meta Quest 3?

@AfterAFashionASMR

3 ай бұрын

@@BifraguraI doubt it but idk. There are some amazing recreations of Genshin spaces and stuff in VR Chat tho. Like 1to1 replicas that you can actually run all around in and try on Genshin avatars. Does VR Chat run on this like it does oculus? If so I’d be so interested to see you go into the VR Chat Genshin worlds and show them to everyone.

not having genshin on the device, or not having the vision pro as a display for the ipad or iphone is a miss. couldve just made it to where you could plug the headset into the lightning/USBC port and away you go. but i guess that just makes to much sense.

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

I don’t recall if I mentioned it but one of my biggest painpoints with the Vision Pro is it not having any port itself on it…

You have the same hairstyle as Asmongold and I'm all here for it.

I wonder if you can travel around and run Runescape, Dofus, or some other mmo on it.

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Runescape is available as a compatible (iPad) app for it, so you can.

I see your problem your on the wrong headset get a quest 3... It does that up to 400inch display

love the plushes

11:39 lmao dude. I really hate that idle sound. 😂🤣 my cousin was playing my genshin using my headset and he was like "why is it sounds like ah, ah," out loud. imagine the stare I got from my family who didn't know the context. 💀💀

Thank you for further cementing how much I don't need this device. Genshin mighta nudged me in that direction but not having native app support on an air-cooled M2 is really awful. I think that's actually more Hoyo's decision but also probably more Apple's fault. They should really have a hard mandate on iOS/iPadOS apps on Apple Silicon Macs and Vision Pro. That they can't get what is likely the only really successful "AAA" game on iOS to run on either one of their other two Apple Silicon initiatives really makes it clear how terrible they have handled third party relations.

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, its a very very unnecessary luxury toy for now. But it really does feel like a matter of time before developers just support some level of compatibility with the Vision Pro type of device by default (at minimum just by running in a 2d window)

@mukiex4413

3 ай бұрын

@@Solunerra I’d be fine with a 2D window and would be floored with a 3D window. Really whenever Apple releases the “air” version I’ll probably grab it for 3D movie watching alone. Would be nice if they took advantage of the neural cores for something like night vision though.

Instead of moving around awkwardly like that, can't Apple make a headset or VR Gear like those in Sword Art Online, so it actually feels you are inside the Genshin world and can run/control your character freely?

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

That is something that is conceptually easy to think about but incredibly difficult into practice to achieve on a hardware level and software level, mostly because of the fact that you’d actually need to cover more senses than sight and sound, and reimagining how we interface with games. I think the tech is getting there, but scifi levels of immersion like with SaO is a ways off still most likely

You can sideload Genshin on MacOS. No PC needed 😅

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

That aspect wouldn't really have changed anything since the PC->Mac through Parsec was actually very good. The problem is in the way the wireless Mac Virtual display feature functions in the Vision Pro. And using Parsec lets the game run at much better quality, I assure you the M1 (fanless!) Macbook wouldn't be running it particularly well even if I went to the effort of sideloading.

@chidorirasenganz

3 ай бұрын

@@Solunerra I don’t doubt the PC works well. I was pointing out that people have gotten it working on Macs and the Air would have ran genshin easily. iPads run the same game just fine with the same SOC and are fanless as well

So the same experience as the 200 dollar head sets

So very Apple. Here is some seriously good tech...but you better use it only for the few things we want you too, and only if we say you can!

This still has less latency than my brain 🧠 I think 🤣.

Crazy

Oh my god your voice is deep

You could use cloud gaming ?

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Yeah thats an option

Even I wouldn't stoop this low.

12:53 u cant tap paimon?

Aren't you the guy who was in the recent WAN Show?

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Yes

Can people with bad eyesight use this device? I guess not 😪

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Yes, you either use contacts or prescription lenses with it (I use prescription inserts)

Playstation with PSVR2: Look What They Need to Mimic a Fraction of Our Power But seriously... That's what I first tried with my PSVR2 but you can't feel that you're in the game, just a big screen. And the fact that you can't play in the dark sucks too...

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Sadly I found the PSVR extraordinarily uncomfortable, and for viewing 2d content I dont even think its close to the Vision Pro. But its still obviously better for games by nature of controllers and being made for that lol

Wow I didn’t know you could buy a vision… 😅

Final line in the vid : The cry for help :v, i mean ur pretty funny just transition into something that shares the audience. I know ill watch ur vids if u change to other game related i mean coff coff Wuttering waves coff coff.

Oh who is that cute chubby guy? 🥰

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

My brother, and he is married lol

That could have been 2-4 C6 characters and a VR headset that can actually do VR, but instead you bought Apple garbage 💀

Dualsense doesn't work with genshin wireless, you need to connect it via usb to work.

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Odd

@aos10

3 ай бұрын

@@Solunerra yes, and xbox s controller works wireless on PC via bluetooth and work on genshin, for some reason in honkai you can alter between keyboard controller without going to the menu, wish genshin do this.

@EthanObi

3 ай бұрын

…yes it does??? Long time iPad and iPhone user, Native Dualsense support was added in iOS 15.

@aos10

3 ай бұрын

@@EthanObi i was talking about windows, did you watch the video?

😂😂😂 nice idea

I had 4,000$. I had a choice a couple months ago. Ball out and buy a new pc with a sweet RTX 4090 or buy the Apple Vision Pro……………… I believe I made the right choice buying the pc. It was a tough call at the time but telling me I bought 4,000$ computer and I can’t use it how I normally use it is BULL.

play nikke on vision pro

'Bwuuut'...

Can't wait till Elon's cyber implant works so I can see if Genshin is playable with brain

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Yes can’t ever disconnect from the gacha that’s the dream!

so basically you bought a $4k equipment to play genshin in your PC directly to your face with a bit of latency.......... Wow I'd rather get some good life insurance with that money.

bro watches hazbin hotel

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Watched, yes. Was a decent show lol. “Watches” implies I actively rewatch it for some reason, but rewatching stuff isnt really something I enjoy (unless I really like a show, but I think the number of shows Ive rewatched can be counted on one hand). I say that mostly because your comment (and a couple others Ive seen) kinda feels like it may have been intended either playfully or insultingly to indicate that Im a fanatical about the show or something, simply BY watching it and adding a song to my library lol. Too many people in the current day are obsessed with labeling everyone as “one of us” or “one of them” when I dont align myself with any group related to said thing. I just watched a show that I thought was pretty good lol, it goes no further than that. I dont even care enough about it to critique it

@Storm_o_48

3 ай бұрын

@@Solunerra oh I didn't meant to insult you.I meant in a way that it's a very popular show that wherever you go you will see it and I also do rewatch it from time to time

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Haha you are all good. I didnt think you were being insulting or anything, I just used your comment to clarify that its not something Id consider myself part of the fandom of or anything. It and Helluva Boss has a weirdly dedicated set of fanboys and haters from what I can tell, and I dont like being lumped into groups I dont believe I am part of is all. Apologies if it sounded like I was upset, twas not my intent

I was only able to watch just a few minutes of this. It made me so dizzy and nauseous. I can't imagine what actually wearing one would do. Ugh.

I forgot that you have long hair 😝

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Me too sometimes

Could've just played Star Rail instead...

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

I couldnt get star rail to launch with controller on it for some reason

@andris404

3 ай бұрын

@@Solunerra you can still play it without controller, right?

HELL NAAAW

Paying this much for 30 fps experience on a monitor-like resolition? Nah, without coherent gaming this is a dead product.

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Yes, because every VR/AR product must be a gaming device /s I agree that Apple overlooking this kind of use case is silly, but they clearly didnt intend the product to be used in this way, and its not a dead product because of it. I dont recommend anyone buy the thing right now to be clear, but its not something that should be evaluated just from a gaming perspective

@princessochka3690

3 ай бұрын

@@Solunerra The point is, that it costs 3.5k. This functionality for this price = dead product.

xbox controller is best, i said it.

The tech is honestly amazing. But Apple is such a bad company

I thought ur wife's bf gifted to you

wow i can actually see gacha gamers play their multiple gacha games at the same time on many small tiny floating screens next gen multi screen setup made for gacha gaming WTF🤣🤣

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Truly the future we need!

You should get a haircut

@Solunerra

3 ай бұрын

Maybe someday

@ahgwsn

3 ай бұрын

no, bro's hair is gorgeous