I love the smug energy draining from Max's face as he's like "Yeah, negative edge, I know this!" And then the guy kept talking

@Just_Keep_Ronin

Жыл бұрын

And talking, and talking, and talking

@themetalmario77

Жыл бұрын

@@Just_Keep_Ronin compared to mario 64 speedrunning calculus is nothing

@mario_gabriel

Жыл бұрын

@@themetalmario77 more like compared to "super mario 64 a button challenge"

@terry-

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha, great one!

@Tequilaselaii

Жыл бұрын

@@Just_Keep_Ronin in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one had a chance to interrupt, it was really quite hypnotic.

Now I understand the "I'm four parallel universes ahead of you" joke in the Melee Fox vs Speedrunner Mario animated video.

@ghastlyanarchy1720

2 ай бұрын

Goated video

@Zel-Veraan

Ай бұрын

The fact that we have the SM64 Speedrunning community, the Fighting Game community, and a couple of Terminal Montage enjoyers in the comments of this video is incredible.

@GenericProtagonist118

2 сағат бұрын

Every bit of TerminalMontage lore is built on the premise of broken gameplay mechanics and lore taken to the most literal extreme.

Good news: Watch for Rolling Rocks got brought down to 0x A presses. And it only takes six minutes now.

@psymar

2 ай бұрын

wait seriously lmao

@DanielAlmeidaGS

Ай бұрын

Need a link to it, please. (Video name also counts)

@alaeriia01

Ай бұрын

@@DanielAlmeidaGS uncommentatedPannenkoek has it

@NYKevin100

20 күн бұрын

The TL;DW is that they figured out how to clip the moving platform out of bounds, and that turns out to make things a lot easier. These days, most of the crazy tech is in TTC, especially for Stomp on the Thwomp. Those stars will probably never be simple to collect, because TTC has such a vertical layout.

Max : We play fighting games with frames, input tricks and mechanics! SM64 Speedrunner : Parallel universes

@r.f.switch5847

Жыл бұрын

SM64 Speedrunners: Quantum physics.

@TheAndroid732

Жыл бұрын

SM64 Speedrunner: You cannot fathom the boundless knowledge I possess. We are not the same.

@wonkerz2050

11 ай бұрын

I can assure you nothing about this run is speedy

@faultyvideos2215

9 ай бұрын

​@@wonkerz2050yeah but even actual SM64 speed runs have shit like phasing through walls and going so fast that you break through barriers.

@leoshi8453

4 ай бұрын

@@wonkerz2050the world record tool assisted speedrun managed to do it in under 5 minutes using some absurd parallel universes

The best part is that it's not a shitpost. We're talking about parallel universes in Mario 64 and it actuallly makes sense.

@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225

Жыл бұрын

And it isn't as glamorous as you may think!

@junior1388666

Жыл бұрын

Watched this video a while ago and I felt so dumb. Halfway through it I was just listening to meaningless words the dude might as well be speaking Russian. Glad I'm not the only one🙂

@yurifairy2969

Жыл бұрын

@@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225 Really it's just glitched level geometry that spawns far away from the map, kinda like the far lands from minecraft. Still has an eerie sorta backrooms vibe to it tho.

@flimermithrandir

Жыл бұрын

@@junior1388666 Same here. I just went Brain afk. Kinda at least. But i still think its really interesting honestly. Its just... so much... lol

@SmartassEyebrows

Жыл бұрын

@@yurifairy2969 Well... no, it isn't far off geometry or anything like that. Remember, these cartridges and the N64 had very very limited memory. What's happening is that locations of the map can be represented in multiples due to floating point conversions. So basically there is a mathematical space where there _theoretically_ exists many copies of the map, but this space reduces down to one true space, and only one true map. However, other aspects of the game, such as collision detection, do not do this reduction, so they span across the "theoretical" space. By manipulating speed, what is going on here is he is moving through the Modulo map space while being outside the bounds of the collision detection. This is also why he must REVERSE his parallel universe course to actually get the star, as if he doesn't then the collision to touch the star will be missing.

“I just wanted to play Mario 64 for the first time and now am stuck in the prehistoric era” is the best isekai I’ve ever heard of

@zeeoh5466

Жыл бұрын

​@@TippyHippy can't help being a scorpio 🤪

@Scantronacon

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😭😭

@megasenpaiiid8768

Жыл бұрын

@@zeeoh5466 what

@ItsJustAGuy

Жыл бұрын

​​@@megasenpaiiid8768 he's joking about how there are people who act like psychopaths or assholes then go "Oops sorry! I'm a *insert astrological sign*" instead of just not acting like that

@aryanburnwal2371

Жыл бұрын

​@@ItsJustAGuy who hurt you

The dudes voice is killin me too. he sounds so nice and genuinely likes sharing his findings lmao.

@Summer_Tea

Жыл бұрын

"But that didn't stop me! 🤓

@onimaxblade8988

Жыл бұрын

It's a legendary video, and he just put out a new video about crashing the game with Pendulums.

@Bakaridge

Жыл бұрын

I like how as he is explaining, you can hear in his voice "good luck following any of this" almost as if he is laughing.

@gregoryent

Жыл бұрын

@@onimaxblade8988 Absolutely legendary video. I don't think a single person on earth, including myself, went into that video expecting anything but a stupid little test for a challenge run of Mario 64. I certaintly did not expect a college level lecture involving math, physics (fake physics mind you), and geometry. All for a children's game released before I was born. We live in a very strange world.

@RadzPrower

Жыл бұрын

​@@Bakaridge The sad part is that I can actually follow along for the most part.

Max: "He's trying to get the bug to clip to the other room" Oh you sweet summer child

@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225

Жыл бұрын

PK literally got done saying that was impossible just moments ago. Max had officially lost the plot at this point, and he was just along for the ride...!

@webbowser8834

Жыл бұрын

@@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225 I still love the SM64 DS video showing a guy abusing yoshi mechanics to create the famed "Scuttlebug Jamboree". It was great.

Max went from understanding what’s going on to being every college student during a guest lecturer’s seminar

@UfakUfakIngilizce

Жыл бұрын

Daily conversations! ❤

@dez87

Жыл бұрын

​@@TP-pq9xxhe did

@free_live_free-511

Жыл бұрын

Terminalmontage something about Mario cartoons.

@ManateeMentality

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Ugh those memories of sitting in a college class for an hour and a half and at the end of that hour and a half, you retained nothing.

@coffeebean_tamer

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

I love how at the start Max is making connections between M64 and his fighting game knowledge. But very quickly shit goes so off the rails Max’s mind breaks when he can no longer make any connections.

@monstersinthecity

Жыл бұрын

M64 tech makes KOF glitches look like baby piss

@happycamperds9917

Жыл бұрын

Imagine if these types of glitches did exist in a fighting game. Most fgs have incredibly strict physics systems, though, so it seems unlikely.

@matehiqu9905

Жыл бұрын

​@@happycamperds9917 the closest comparison I can make is like, if you did enough Korean back-dashing you'd leave the arena

@happycamperds9917

Жыл бұрын

@@matehiqu9905 You build up enough momentum that you travel across 4 parallel universes in one frame to wrap around and cross up your opponent.

@RandomDude647

Жыл бұрын

@@happycamperds9917 I mean, the black hole glitch in melee/brawl is pretty crazy too

“Let’s watch it again.” After my second watch of the video my take away was, “at least this dude’s happy.”

@JohnSnow-fv6jy

Жыл бұрын

Yeah lol

@gwamhurt

2 ай бұрын

A shame the response to this vodeo ruined the dudes mental health for like two years.

@jeremiahtorrevillas4396

2 ай бұрын

Whqt happened to him? Did he ge harassed?

@SilversTaurus

Ай бұрын

TJ Henry got owned in all universes 😂

@iac9

Ай бұрын

​@@gwamhurtit took a really long time to make and get all the data and graphs to make it understandable and I believe he still had studies to deal with so it just got rid of his motivation to make more a button challenge explanations. He didn't get harrassed or anything tho.

Parallel universes really aren’t hard to understand -Mario is here -Mario goes really fast out of bounds -Mario’s coordinates go so high that they overflow into normal coordinates -Game looks at coordinates, thinks “Oh, he’s standing here” and acts as if Mario is on-top of collision -The result is effectively an invisible copy of the level’s geometry because the game thinks Mario is on the regular map -Mario then does movement shenanigans at his high speed that makes the game realize “Oh, he’s supposed to be _here!_” and puts him back on the level effectively giving him a teleport

I died of laughter when he was trying to comprehend the scuttlebug raising demostration while the scuttlebug yelled every time it phased in and out of reality

@StrongerFist30

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😭😭🤣🤣

@umeinui

Жыл бұрын

lmao I thought that was just me

@TokyMiku

Жыл бұрын

i rewatched that part 10 times 💀💀💀

@gtmaniacmda

5 ай бұрын

The Yoshimitsu Tekken 2 getting hit sound

Max went into the video just wanting to know how to press less a buttons but left with a doctorate in Mario 64

@yurifairy2969

Жыл бұрын

pannenkoek is a college professor irl soo

@ericjefferson7262

Жыл бұрын

And without student loans....

@mrmalbert8864

Жыл бұрын

Maxi my Idol 😂🎉 u are so funny

@joannaalmazan4508

Жыл бұрын

Imagine going through all these instructions exactly just so you can unlock Luigi in 64 from another universe were Nintendo did add him to the game that be some shit right there lol like it all leads up to this moment (also not mentioning the ds version)

@anthonyrodriguez4896

Жыл бұрын

Nah man max failed the course much like all of us.

I love how confident Max was at first about knowing what pannen was talking about. If only he knew.

@ryuzxa

Жыл бұрын

Bro goes from "hey I know this, he's talking about negative edge!" To "parallel universe???"

@ATSaale

Жыл бұрын

When he brought that up I was like oh, if it was only that simple

When this dude said, "But that didn't stop me!" I absolutely lost it, and I dont know why 😂😂😂😂

@aimfuldrifter

Жыл бұрын

He could have been a serial killer with that calm but creepy voice. Or a stalker! "She's hired a security to stay away from her...but that didn't stop me!" :P

@BraveryWing26

Ай бұрын

@@aimfuldrifter But he decided to beat a Super Mario 64 level with only a half press. And that's beautiful.

@AeridesEntertainment

25 күн бұрын

It's because that level of tenacity is borderline THREATENING.

Max predicting the solution to be as simple as a regular ass negative edge button pressing only to cry soon after makes this 100 times funnier

@Bone8380

Жыл бұрын

The best part is that he's wrong, with negative edge the important part is releasing a held button to essentially simulate pressing it, with a half-A press, the important part is holding the button down to achieve a result you wouldn't get by pressing or releasing it.

@syrelian

Жыл бұрын

@@Bone8380 I mean sometimes it is just a negative edge release for getting certain actions, but yeah the Almost Has It going on was killing me

@novarender_

Жыл бұрын

​@@syrelian not sure that negative edge does anything in Mario 64

@supermarble94

Жыл бұрын

@@novarender_ the only thing it can do is allow you to drop from a hangable ceiling.

@superbro6413

Жыл бұрын

​@@Bone8380 while not really negative edge, some fighting games have input buffer systems that work in such a way that holding a button down still counts as a button "press" See: Avoiding the Puddle's (Aris) video on Tekken button hold buffering

Wait until Max finds out that there's a several hour long retrospective on the A Button Challenge

@schweepy_g

Жыл бұрын

From Bismuth. Omg what a wild thing to watch. Blew my mind.

@dango2917

Жыл бұрын

@@schweepy_g i still think that video was a fever dream

@Ghost_PM11

Жыл бұрын

I almost looked this up, but then I remembered that's how I got here in the first place.

@redpenguin5837

10 ай бұрын

and an hour of content just on pendulum manipulation

@Meme_Lor

2 ай бұрын

I could be wrong but the was outdated only a few days after it was posted because someone found a new A button skip lol

My favorite thing about this video is that it's a really good and detailed explanation for the trick he did works, but it's so detailed it becomes mind numbing if you aren't completely focused

@JohnSnow-fv6jy

Жыл бұрын

Mathematician here..wrapped my mind in nots. Not going to rewatch and gain understanding...lol

@RanEncounter

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnSnow-fv6jy This pretty easy to understand compared to some really hard math problems thou. Here you have visualizations and everything to show what happens.

@JohnSnow-fv6jy

Жыл бұрын

It's easy to we mathematicians, but I feel you'd have to pause it quite a bit, depending on your specialities The video is for shock factor, but it is still extremely impressive how he or they broke the programming down so fine. Anyways, good refresher course lol. 👍

@HawooAwoo

11 ай бұрын

I suspect the main hang-up for people would be the float to shorts conversion and the programming implications behind it, something they give only a sentence or two to explain before moving on.

@internetexplorerpony

11 ай бұрын

@@JohnSnow-fv6jy I don't think it is for shock factor. I have follow the A Button Challenge for quite a while now and everything in it makes sense. The video is meant to be educational and is not the first one he had ever made (pannen has made more about SM64 oddities and ABC before), you just need to have a bit more context to fully apprieciate what is going on but people not able to follow it is why it blew up in the first place.

14:08 "just kidding!" literally crying here

I was not expecting Max to slowly lose his mind because of Mario 64

@JEFFYjackass

Жыл бұрын

.....It's Max 🤦‍♂️ lol

@kidomaruking35

Жыл бұрын

You'd think the man would lose his mind in re4r but no it's a Nintendo game lol

@theotherjared9824

Жыл бұрын

Mario 64 changes a man

@aRoyz

Жыл бұрын

even bloodborne didnt prepare him this kind of madness

@Crowley7482

Жыл бұрын

@@aRoyz just like in blood borne Max slowly went made after gaining too much insight from this Mario 64 lecture.

I didn't think he would jump into this rabbit hole 😂

@Cool30Comics

Жыл бұрын

Technically he didn't jump into it. He was already holding A before he clicked the video ;^)

@TheMadZocker

Жыл бұрын

We don't jump around these parts, pardner.

@Lunatic89097

Жыл бұрын

@@Cool30Comics Was waiting for this!

@mangaprofilepicture5820

Жыл бұрын

@@Cool30Comics this dosnt take into consideration the parallel universe where he already didnt press A therefore creating a reverse half A press nullifying the half A press in the main universe so he actually didnt press A at all

That's when Max realized he wasn't cut out for speedrunning.

@mario_gabriel

Жыл бұрын

it's not really speedrunning tho, it's the A Button Challenge (ABC) community that is just insane, in a good way of course.

@webbowser8834

Жыл бұрын

@@mario_gabriel I also will note that this sort of PU manipulation is FIRMLY TAS-only tech. RTA a button challenges are... less insane (still insane though).

@JohnSnow-fv6jy

Жыл бұрын

​@@mario_gabriel He had to do this for some masters or doctorates level computer science thesis, haha. Absolutely nuts. I knew what variables he was using, but I just wanted to watch someone play mario 64, lol.

@keystrix3704

6 ай бұрын

@@mario_gabriel Have they gotten to the point of combining the challenges? An A button Speedrun Challenge?

The main takeaway I got from the video back when I first watched it was that the transition towards 3D for video games wasn't as easy most people thought. Nintendo made it look easy, but in reality they're barely held together by scotch-tape and a dream. They still function perfectly fine for casual play, at least, which was considered enough back then. But yeah, coding a 3D gameplay engine from scratch is hard, and the cracks that were found in the early ones can be terrifying to think about. Poor Pannenkoek. He made his video only for the speedrunning crowd, but was randomly blessed by the KZread algorythm and went viral. But even as a complete casual who couldn't understand over half the things he talked about, I'm still glad I watched it just to get a glimpse of how complex a 3D interactive world can be to program.

@329link

Жыл бұрын

Actually, mario 64 is really solid as far as glitches and such go. Most bugs you can find have to be sought out, and you have to do some pretty insanely precise stuff to get anything big most of the time. Honestly, that's true for most of the big titles on N64. Every game can be broken, what's important is how easy it is to break completely.

@wymarsane7305

Жыл бұрын

It's one of the reasons it's still a popular game almost thirty years later. Solid enough that a casual playthrough has no issue while still being broken enough that speedrunners and challenge players can go hogwild with exploits.

@johnelway76

11 ай бұрын

@@329link besides killing king whomp

12:43 the time travel joke. Got me crying laughing.

@benyaminsaki2686

Жыл бұрын

I'm dead

"My Nintendo 64 effectively has turned into a time machine." Quote of the year, and an active summary of whatever... THIS... was.

Can you imagine, after all of the math, the patience, the debugging and the patience..him getting that star for the first time? I doubt any of us have felt that kind of elation.

@BaldorfBreakdowns

Жыл бұрын

Imagine he did all that and it didn't work.

@JohnSnow-fv6jy

Жыл бұрын

I've felt similar, only to come to disappointment. Lol Empty gains. This guy was impressive though. Opened eyes to the vastness of possibilites in mathematics. Absolutely bizarre. Kudos to him, man. In the end,..keep your cogs moving. It helps everybody. 🙂👍

@JeedyJay

11 ай бұрын

@@BaldorfBreakdowns I imagine this happened... several... times before he made it work.

@BaldorfBreakdowns

11 ай бұрын

@@JeedyJay Well yeah, but it eventually worked. I mean, imagine you do all this and it doesn't end up working, ever.

@chasedwards9626

8 ай бұрын

Lol you think that guy has feelings 😂 Stop you’re making my dishwasher laugh

Less than 2 weeks ago he returned to KZread to spin a pendulum so fast that it breaks the fabric of spacetime by moving around dust particles. Also he now is uploading KZread shorts pretty regularly at the moment.

@gogetathegreatestfusion801

11 ай бұрын

What's his channel?

@user-te1fn8cj5r

11 ай бұрын

@@gogetathegreatestfusion801 pannenkoek2012

I like that Max identifies with Pannen's talk on some level because he's also this much of a technical nerd, but for fighting games

@kamariz3153

Жыл бұрын

True

@EinDose

Жыл бұрын

I absolutely love that he completely shortcut past the 'does a half A-press exist' argument by just going 'oh yeah that's negative edge'.

@Emmariscobar

Жыл бұрын

​@@EinDose I especially love the fact that he was completely wrong about it since a negative edge involves you letting go of the button while a 0.5 a press is all about you *not* letting go of the a button.

@Dracobyte

8 ай бұрын

Just like Woolie, he understands concepts better if explained in Fighting Game language.

"But I don't want to cure cancer! I want to decrease my A presses in Mario 64!"

I felt my soul leave my body when max said "lets watch it again"

@ 13:02 words cannot describe how funny and well edited that cry-laugh is....😂😂😂 The pitch, the tone, the visuals...

@aimfuldrifter

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of HIM character in Powerpuff Girls. =)

I like how near the end of the video Max just broke. Dude started laughing like someone would at an asylum, laughing at walls n' shit

Watching this live actively made me question reality.

@Numster_

Жыл бұрын

@travis Rm we could have uncovered the secrets of the universe.

@spreadthevegemite8064

Жыл бұрын

I agree, the time and maths in talking about this Mario 64 ,i just play it for fun

The funniest part that went unnoticed is after all that t1-t6 advanced explanation, he says, "so finally, for SIMPLICITY..." 😂😂😂

Narrator: "Walls are really just rectangles that push Mario out perpendicularly" Max: *listens intently while chat's brain is melting* "What was this even for again? Oh right, so we don't have to press that A button that much, OKAY!" XD

11:27 reminds me of the "But I don't want to cure cancer, I want to turn people into dinosaurs" spiderman meme panel

Never in my life did I ever think I would see Max react to Pannenkoek, and yet here we are. The greatest timeline.

@webbowser8834

Жыл бұрын

I'm more of a Pannenpaper fan myself, but this is great too.

@King_Luigi

Жыл бұрын

In order to explain how this Max Reacts was possible, we need to talk about *P a r a l l e l U n i v e r s e s*

@crowevil4658

Жыл бұрын

After posting this video, the would-be-spice-inhaling-doctor was sued by Nintendo and sent to a PU. Moral of the story, press the A button and play the game as intended.

@Saxdude26

Жыл бұрын

I think you mean the greatest QPU

@crowevil4658

Жыл бұрын

@@Saxdude26 lmfao

"I pressed jab with a delay timing on wakeup to option select versus meaty and throw." "No, a jab press is a jab press. You cannot press half a jab."

I never thought I'd see the day where someone as technically gifted as Max dive into the world of pannenkoek. It's a rare sight for me to see him absolutely baffled by someone that wasn't just wiping the floor with him in a fight. Great vid, thanks for sitting through the entire thing.

@SaviourV

11 ай бұрын

More like pannenkoek wiped out Max, from an intellectual perspective. 😅

You know, as genuinely impressive and hilarious as this was, I can't help but wonder just how much of this kind of amazing stuff will forever remain undiscovered in less popular games.

@halkon4412

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Everyone's always like "wow, [x game] is so brilliantly designed that there's still secrets to discover decades later" and I'm just like "nah this means every game has stuff like this"

@metalsonic8888

Жыл бұрын

I mean, this isn't really "undiscovered" in the way that a secret or easter egg is, it's just using weird side effects of how the game was coded to do something the developers never even considered. And while it's easy to think that all games might have crazy stuff like this if you scrutinize them close enough, Mario 64 really is in kind of a unique situation for this stuff to occur. It was a pioneer of 3D platforming and because of that no one had a damn clue what they were doing when they made it. It is full of programming quirks that no one would ever use again even just a couple years later because understanding of how to do things better had progressed leaps and bounds in that time. It is unlikely to be the *only* game that could be manipulated so expertly and in such unexpected ways, but the vast majority of them are going to be from this era of very early 3D stuff

@CyclonSilver

Жыл бұрын

@@metalsonic8888 That's sound, though at the same time it doesn't have to be movement based per se, and there are quite a few counterexamples in mid 90s 2D games (such as Mario World in this very video). Furthermore, games have also become more complex, and with that, there's much more room for glitches in the code. Completely random example, I went a bit deeper than I really should have with Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 of all things. I found cancels, weird damage formulas, positional quirks, obscure mistakes in tooltips, pseudo-infinites, etc. So stuff nowhere need the level of what's presented here. I went out to the internet to compare my data with what had been out there already, and... well I didn't find anything to compare too, and I searched for a while. It's a DB game so guides were aplenty, but all the ones I found were simplistic and/or mistaken in some way or another(just to be clear, they all had distinct mistakes, confirming an unexplored metagame rather than me just being wrong). And that wasn't even an unpopular game or anything, it sold millions. Chances are all of this stuff is common knowledge by now, but I do think it's kinda telling because it took me, a single regular person that bought the game a year late, about a week to find. What are the odds I found it all ? Other example, people are still finding new advanced techniques in Smash bros Melee to this day (also Ultimate). Do you know how many advanced techniques are being found in Smash 64 or Brawl ? To my knowledge, zero, because they're barely played anymore. Does every game out there have Mario 64's parrallel universes, definitely not. On the other hand, are the Pokémons, the Marios, the Zeldas, the Elder scrolls and the FFVIIs (aka ultra popular games) somehow the only ones to have an incredibly deep array of hidden mechanics ? Doesn't seem too likely either. Edit : Probably didn't need to write all that, but I don't know if you're into speedruns or not and I didn't want to assume. Just in case you're not, a fairly quick glance at that scene shows a very strong correlation between popularity and amount of "deeper" sub-mechanics.

@metalsonic8888

Жыл бұрын

@@CyclonSilver Well, while I agree with you on some points, I think my main point of contention is the scale, spectacle, and function on display here that sets Mario 64's weird code apart from other games. But I recognize that is just my opinion. That said, if I concede that other games like those you mentioned have tech at this level, then I don't think you give speedrunners enough credit. I remember watching a speedrun of some godforesaken DOS Alf game that had weird tech in it. Browse the awful games block for any one of the GDQ events and you'll probably find at least 1 game with some bonkers movement or manipulation. Unpopular and bad games do get worked over too

@CyclonSilver

Жыл бұрын

@@metalsonic8888 To be honest I give speedrunners all of the credit, I respect their work a ton. But there needs to be interest in the first place, and regardless there are things that only years of meta refinement can bring out. We certainly didn't get there with Mario 64 in a day. Same as you, I could be wrong. We're talking about the undiscovered after all.

Now he has the knowledge to follow TerminalMontage's Mario lore

@raheem7632

Жыл бұрын

I never saw the video before and I literally said out loud "Ohhhhhh THAT'S what Terminalmontage was referring to!"

@djpegao

Жыл бұрын

but before that _he needs to talk about parallel universes_

@guigondi7671

Жыл бұрын

I discovered this video with Max. I was SO surprised when i retroactively understood how accurate to speedrun, The mario from that animation was XD

@jimmyjohnjoejr.9020

Жыл бұрын

0.5x mating press

@trident042

Жыл бұрын

And so should everyone here now. Everyone should follow TerminalMontage's Mario lore.

I absolutely love Pannen, and I always feel so badly that they aren't always taken very seriously, but _goddamn_ was Max's perspective on the extreme techno babble _hilarious._ The time travel bit made me bust a gut.

What I love the most out of the entire thing is how hard it actually hits to see it all work. That man just spent 20+ minutes explaining continuum-bending math to us, then he just... Does the trick in a fraction of a second. All of that explanation for a microscopic moment.

He's just so lost, I love it; this rabbit hole was totally unexpected but I'm here for it.

@knox7945

Жыл бұрын

I think we're all lost.

@MilkyCao

Жыл бұрын

@@knox7945 admitedly i've been folowing this for years. A Button Challenge community has gotten to the point where not only is the tas that low a press wise, but people have been speedruning the ABC, getting some CRAZY records in the process.

@ShinkuDragon

Жыл бұрын

He went from "chat this is just negative edge" to doubting the fabric of the universe

@theinimitablejora522

Жыл бұрын

And the fact that he was so close at the start, he knew his stuff on negative edge and was applying the knowledge, only for his security to be senselessly ripped away...

@ShinkuDragon

Жыл бұрын

@@theinimitablejora522 well, i'm sure now he knows why SM64 is the GOAT.

"Lets watch it again" Omg The unspeakable horror of a cackle that left my vocal cords and scared the shit out my cat at 7am in the morning is something that I think I will remember for the rest of my life 😂😂😂😂

I love the watch for rolling rocks video so much. There's the inherent hilarity of the premise of the whole parallel universes thing, Pannenkoek throwing in a little bit more humour between the actual in depth stuff, and honestly a really really good explanation and visualisation of pretty complex stuff- like, all jokes aside it's a fantastic way to explain what's going on. It's a shame that from what I heard Pannenkoek didn't appreciate the video getting memed as hard as it was, but it's legitimately incredibly informative and very funny, well worth checking out in full.

8:14 just want to say that it's not at all like Mario 64 PU stuff. The PU stuff is due to variable overflow like the video mentions. The Super Mario World stuff is due to tricking the game to write values beyond their intended allotment in the games memory space, and then again tricking it into trying to run the game starting from that memory space.

Seeing Max slowly descend into madness made my day.

@aimfuldrifter

Жыл бұрын

That's the perfect summary of this reaction.

Whoever edits these videos, needs a raise this is god tier editing

@MariusBoss11458

Жыл бұрын

You can feel what is going through his head

@Brunty023

Жыл бұрын

@@MariusBoss11458 Editor here... You're not wrong! 😏

@badventist-petite

Жыл бұрын

@@Brunty023 thank you for all that you do, I was dying laughing pretty much the entire time 😂

@killerking2346

Жыл бұрын

​@@Brunty023 that Yakuza bgm, not only of side quest brainrot, but SPECIFICALLY an NPC introducing something new to you side quest brainrot, is just..... Chefs kiss.

@LetterBeginning

Жыл бұрын

Master-tier, please don't use God in that term.

Imagine you meet a time traveler but the time traveler is so overwhelmed they just laugh uncontrollably at you

I got real excited seeing that Max was gonna watch this, and him devolving from "yeah, I get these concepts" to "What year is it"

I think most of the speed and PU shenanigans can be summarized as "you build the correct amount of speed so that when the game checks where you should be next, it will instantly teleport you to where you want" with some caveats of course

@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu

Жыл бұрын

It's true. But he explained the calculation used to find the correct speed and launch angle as well as select the right slop triangle to sync the speed and get enough height.

@thedarkemissary

Жыл бұрын

@@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu "It's true. But he explained the calculation used to find the correct speed and launch angle as well as select the right slop triangle to sync the speed and get enough height"...... so that you don't have to press the 'A' button.

@gildarmesh3809

Жыл бұрын

ah yes "some caveats" like checking every 4th speed to make sure you align with parallel universes during and calculating the variation if you ever are to hit a slope on the path to these parallel movements because that will desync your overall speed requiring more speed in order to get these things to align AND then finding out how to get the 1.21 gigawatts so that you can time travel and forget mario existed to stop this madness

@lebushymustache3999

Жыл бұрын

What fucking alien language is being spoken in the replies right now?

@tenooky

Жыл бұрын

@@thedarkemissary Yeah of course its arbitrary but the point is it basically turns the game into a programming puzzle. Takes a certain kind of person to like that kind of thing but I think it's pretty neat.

"The scuttlebug is the key to the multiverse."

That Everything Everywhere All At Once ref in the thumbnail is gold

"I just wanted to play Mario 64 for the first time and now I'm stuck in the prehistoric era! Get me the fuck out of here man! Help me!" I laughed so hard

It's actually kinda funny how 7 years ago I barely understood the video but now halway through college in CS it's simple enough to understand. The things you can get away with in SM64 are pretty amazing.

@noobofalltrades9766

Жыл бұрын

But what is the point of the video at the end of it all, that just to show there are things you can break in the game? Or is this an actual strat to collect all 120 stars at the most optimum time for a speedrun or something?

@SuperMarioSwagger

Жыл бұрын

@@noobofalltrades9766 It's a challenge to finish the game with the less amount of a press possible , there's a great documentary about it made by Bismuth if you want to see more

@paulj6805

Жыл бұрын

​@@noobofalltrades9766It's a strategy to finish that particular stage with the minimum number of A presses.

@matthall7359

Жыл бұрын

Why did you need to take college level computer science to understand plain English? The only slightly math heavy thing is floating point integers, which he explains very simply

@noobofalltrades9766

Жыл бұрын

@@SuperMarioSwagger I like speedruns and all that but does the game even show that at the end of the game or something, like how many A presses did you do? Or is there a tool to mod the game to show that? Because when I was watching Max I didn't notice any data like that. Also this seems like a very niche kind of challenge. Genuinely curious.

Holy shit seeing Max laugh like that immediately cures my seasonal depression

@kounurasaka5590

Жыл бұрын

I've never heard Max break that hard. He usually kind of stays "in character" but this felt like a man nearly broken by the eldritch knowledge that was being absorbed by his eyeballs. Eyes on eyes, praise the old blood.

@Evilriku13

Жыл бұрын

he does have a great laugh!

@lightup6751

Жыл бұрын

@@kounurasaka5590I dont think max ever plays a character tho. Dood is so genuine

@eebu620

Жыл бұрын

I do not know! But whenever max laughs, it feels like it's a fake laugh :D

@kounurasaka5590

Жыл бұрын

@@lightup6751 I meant he's normally in streamer mode, kind of "performing" but this felt more like a genuine WTF from him. Didn't mean it as insult or to imply he's fake or something.

As a mathematical physicist who has studied computing and loves Mario speed running and Max, this is the nexus of all things great in the universe to me. Thank you 🙏

@jpconley5618

Жыл бұрын

Max’s descent into madness had major Walt in the crawl space vibes.

@Dracobyte

8 ай бұрын

Nice!

That man turned Mario 64 into a multiverse conversation better than any movie company

Major kudos to the editor, this was a fantastic episode between Max's commentary and the visual edit gags. Will be watching this one again with friends!

@heidibenner1577

Жыл бұрын

I've watched this video 3-4 times now. Just legendary

Nothing breaks a man more than watching how Mario could get 1 star using parallel unirverses.

The editor deserves a raise lol. Also I don't think I've ever seen Max laugh so hard XD

Pretty impressive. By himself, Max got to that point where if you're with someone, you both just can't stop laughing. The high pitched realm.

"this man could be a doctor"

I liked the part where he said "For simplicity...". Glad he simplified that

@cinamynj

Жыл бұрын

"For simplicity" shows an image of 100 Parallel Universes

Max losing it at a Mario 64 tech video has honestly made me laugh the hardest in a minute omg

Gotta love how he went from sort of understanding the video to complete confusion when the subject of "parallel universes" came up.

Fun fact: the original video creator's brother is a Super Smash Bros. Melee player named Borp. Borp is known for playing with 0 advanced techniques and still performing decent, so both the brothers are just trying to use as little button presses as possible.

This man is literally 5 parallel universes ahead of everything.

@dexterwilliams2520

Жыл бұрын

That’ll create a QPU misalignment and crash the game…I think. Mario 64 A Button Challenge terminology might as well be the language of some sort of pseudo-Italian Elvish Gods, I can’t understand shit.

I love how when the video is explaining the first part Max is like, yeah negative edge, easy stuff. Then when it start talking about parallel universes and shit, Max face changes completely into wtf mode

I made the mistake of taking a drink at 16:00 and spit my fucking water out across my entire table, but the big ass belly laugh I got out of it was worth the mess.

6:45 To answer that, we need to talk about parallel universes... The terminal montage is strong in this one, yet again he's playing the one mario game that can actually feel like one big terminal montage video

"I took everything mario, koopas, blocks, bowser, pipes, mushrooms. Everything max, and put it in a bagel" "Hey max, bagel"

I love this fucking video. Makes me remember that time my dumb ass decided "yeah, i can sleep through half the math class in my math degree."

You guys remember that video where Max confidently explained to everyone at the beginning how the runner was using negative edge to press less 'a' buttons?

My buddy showed me this years ago, we still make jokes about playing games with half an A press.

He should see the version with no commentary that cuts down on the fluff so he can fully experience how crazy this actually is

Panen's original video is unironically one of my favorite things in the world. It's just total mastery over a microscopically niche system in a way that's both ridiculously impressive as well as adorably charming.

"Using what I taught you, you should be able to follow along" EXCUSE ME LMAO

I love how this video goes from typical Mario 64 speedrunning to time travel and parallel universes.

He did not watch the Pannen video… EDIT: OH NO HE DID

Just when I thought that Max’s production quality couldn’t get better, his editors put in all the comments! (Real time.) and the memes where to die for! Thank you!

imagine the programmers that actually had to conceive this process on paper before putting into the game. that blows my mind too. its like unseen wether this was all for keeping mario in bounds or the devs messing around

@webbowser8834

3 ай бұрын

Programmer checking in: Nothing about PUs were intentional. This is all the result of converting floats (a fairly large number type with a wide range) to a short (a very small number type with a limited range) and the issues that arise from converting floats that don't neatly fit into shorts. In normal play, you will likely only encounter some rounding weirdness because shorts are only whole numbers while floats can have decimals. This really is only relevant if you manage to build up enough speed to cause a short overflow, which simply does not happen in normal gameplay. Frankly, the fact the game doesn't literally crash from this is a minor miracle of type safety in itself.

Reminder that this was 12+ hours for one star for a half A-press. That’s like spending 12 hours cooking a burger trying not to spend a teaspoon of propane.

Max's journey was so much fun to watch, and then this video was just a cherry on top of it all. It was so hilarious watching him go from understanding to being so lost

This man could have been the most brilliant scientist and instead decided to be in Mario 64 speed runner.

@SpaceLanceFTW

5 ай бұрын

For all we know he already is BECAUSE he's a Mario 64 speedrunner.

@dannyboots

3 ай бұрын

Worth it

Best part is without all the theory behind it the trick comes down to Mario moonwalking against a corner for 12 hours, constantly teabagging on a moving platform, then pinballing his way to a star.

I feel like the perfect culmination of Max's Mario 64 journey would be for him to watch Terminal Montage's 100% Accurate Fox vs Speedrunner Mario.

@djpegao

Жыл бұрын

*HAIYAAAA*

@rodrigomarcondes5857

Жыл бұрын

@Verbal Learning It won't be possible because even though that guy uses copyrighted Nintendo characters, he puts copyright blocks on his videos and doesn't let anyone react to his videos on twitch or other streaming platforms. I think the only way it would be possible for Max to react to it is if he personally reached out to that hypocrite and ask for permission, which imo is so not worth the hassle

Can we please, PLEASE get more videos with this kind of editing?! x'D I was crying from laughter!

4:32 Max's brain is doing overtime lol

These old games really were held together with spit and a dream with how broken they can become. Like the first two gens of Pokémon. It's crazy.

If you thought this was complicated, then I’d recommend checking out the multi-part documentary on the A Button Challenge by Bismuth. It goes over all of the tricks used for the challenge in-depth, and goes over some things that are even crazier than what’s in this video

@Sonicstillpoint83

Жыл бұрын

That would be awesome if he gave some exposure to that level of thought-provoking/crazy content.

@jobowisheshewasnomo4171

Жыл бұрын

...crazier than this? what is crazier than this?

@MrDibara

Жыл бұрын

​@@jobowisheshewasnomo4171*Dare we thread the forbidden knowledge?* 😐 *Wouldn't it be better... if we didn't know?* 😶

@gregoryhayes7569

Жыл бұрын

@@jobowisheshewasnomo4171 Goomba engineering, spawning displacement, the incredibly convoluted series of exploits needed to get to the Secret Aquarium without an emulator, whatever the hell is going on in the latest Tick Tock Clock runs...

I can't remember the last time I laughed this hard. The pure insanity of the explanation, Max's confusion, the editing, and then the time machine bit slayed me.

All jokes aside, the fact that Super Mario 64 is THAT optimized is awesome, no wonder how the SM64 speedrun and TAScommunity have achieved some incredible records

This topic strikes me as something you learn via a casual question, and just dive into the abyss by coming across an already finished guide that doesn't have any supplemental material with it, and you immediately start asking questions about what everything means and get completely lost in the sauce until you emerge out of the other side like 3 months later with a college-level amount of research under your belt completely proficient in this one hyper-specific topic. You come back to this video and can finally understand all of it with ease, but then you realize when you try to explain it to someone else, that you've become an eldritch horror of SM64 Speedrunning knowledge. Lmao. I imagine this experience is similar to those who study Quantum Field theory or Fluid Dynamics. It's just an ever compounding knowledge check that leads to so much understanding that you can't actually explain it to a layman without a series of lectures and a 600 page textbook complete with color code and diagrams.

Someone should link Bismuth's 6 hour video on the entirety of the A button Challenge, I wanna see Max's mind meltdown

@zeeoh5466

Жыл бұрын

seeing him watch bad_boot's vid on getting to the aquarium 0xA would be a blast i'm sure

I found it amazing that, thanks to all that explanation, the bit at 15:11 is so fast that don't even cause a reaction from max.

The part I always laugh at is something I think Max misses because he checks the time and there's still 5 mins left. Right at the moment the person says "for simplicity..." and then shows like 200+ parallel universes lol

Max's reaction was just absolutely priceless! He went from okay I get it to WHAT IN THE WORLD!