I've read a bunch of the comments and it seems like a lot of you don't like the way we eliminated people based off of the appearance (and not the sound) or the fact that we eliminated people who were using clone keycaps. I can understand where you're coming from, but we did this for two reasons: 1) There were a TON of applicants. We had over 200 submissions and we filtered it down to 64. We needed a way to sort through them and the clone keycap sets was an easy way to do it. The video is already 30 minutes long and the original video draft was over 45 minutes before we had cut it down more. Plus, Hipyo was nice enough to offer his time to help me judge and I didn't want to take too much of his time. The tournament livestream ran for roughly 3 hours and if we had to listen to every sound test, it could've easily been an 8 hour livestream, which obviously isn't fair to him. The biggest feedback from the last tournament was that you wanted MORE keyboards, but we're human after all and that comes with limitations like time, so each keyboard gets judged faster. 2) As creators ourselves, we try to advocate for the original keycap designer's work. A lot of companies will rip-off the keycap designs from the people who created them without offering any royalties or credit to the original design. This is a business practice that hurts the community and is not something I want to support. And it's not about how much you spend, or if it's GMK or not GMK (which frankly I don't support the business practices of either), we mainly eliminated people if these were specifically using clone sets. Plus, there are a lot of great cheaper in-stock options nowadays that aren't straight rip-offs, and I have no problem with that. It may not seem like it, but these tournaments take an insane amount of planning and time trying coordinate sponsors to give away free stuff to you guys, filtering through applications, and organizing the guest judges. This whole tournament is supposed to be about celebrating the community and trying to give away as much free stuff as possible to all of the people who participate, so let's just try to have fun and not get too worked up here. WOW this turned into an essay. TL:DR: Just have fun and don't be a jerk.

@CastleBrookKrew

2 жыл бұрын

it's always hard to please the masses and judging stuff isn't easy when there isn't a set of guidelines you should maybe follow, you went by how you guys felt and I think that's fair.

@ro1real

2 жыл бұрын

I see nothing wrong imo

@peirs3071

2 жыл бұрын

If clones were an automatic disqualification, it probably would have made more sense to just not choose those for the 64 included in the tournament

@crook6218

2 жыл бұрын

Understandable 👍🏾

@HipyoTech

2 жыл бұрын

Big agree with what Betty is saying here.

I think they should've done it the other way around, eliminating based on the sound first before taking a look at the board

@savagefb9307

2 жыл бұрын

And I feel like chat should have voted

@silverrx8511

2 жыл бұрын

fr

@Iced_lattedrizzle

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah cuz they could’ve sounded amazing

@orange7810

2 жыл бұрын

Probably would have just ended with haha thock. Keycult and Rama m60A would have been out first round and it would have ended with some budget pe foamed tape modded build with SA

@altchannel4comments460

Жыл бұрын

@@orange7810 that is probably tru

Hey, love this type of video Btw I feel really "upset" to not listen all the keyboard sound, is it possible to find every sound test in a playlist or a "folder" ?

@savagefb9307

2 жыл бұрын

Same they just like thocc and no clones and ik it takes a long time but it makes it kind of an upset for the people that sent their keyboards and not even getting to here the sound

@King_Koontz

2 жыл бұрын

Why is there twirking at 17:21

@danielleobrien5551

Жыл бұрын

@@savagefb9307yeah that’s what I’m sayin

Why so much hate for the clones? Not everyone can afford to spend $200+ on keycaps

@chiizuu752

2 жыл бұрын

They say it's "stealing the art" yeah bro, copying a basic dual colorway is stealing art. I highly support clones in this hobby because these og sets cost more than what mfs in the US get. Imagine living in a poor country and you get ridiculed for getting clones.

@Ray.F

2 жыл бұрын

@@chiizuu752 Honestly though, I rather purchase clone keycap sets than buying from the aftermarket at a super inflated price. It's really the lesser of two evils. Ain't no way I am going to let some scummy scalper earn money that does not even go to the original designer of the keycaps anyway.

@chiizuu752

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ray.F Exactly, I also won't buy in-stock keycaps because most of them look basic and cheap and are being sold for $80 and above. I'd rather get clones to save money so I can get better parts for the keyboard

@danny7694

Жыл бұрын

THIS ! This is what I've been talking about. I am not going 180 bucks and 22 months down the drain for a set of keycaps, That is just nuts. If they don't want ppl to clone their sht they should make higher volumes and at the very least half the price and even then spending 90+ on a set is still pretty steep. I hope this hobby will grow to a point where these companies can't really exist because of competition cause essentially what their doing is monopolizing and it's very boring to be a subject to some german company that only thinks about how to empty your wallet as fast as possible and how to stretch the delivery time of their products by as much as possible. I'll be buying clones just as a statement tbh, gmk can suck my left nut

honestly i felt like this competitoin was super subjective in favor of the judges, the chat vote feature from last tourney was better, that way keyboards didn't have to conform to what the judges felt was good ie: "thocky," no clones boards

@gameranters

2 жыл бұрын

Could also be considered subjective based on chat vote. Dr.Pinguu won simply because he had support of team penguin gang.

@savagefb9307

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I like the last one cause all they like is thocc when there is preference so I like the chat voting I kinda got mad at this vid ngl

I could understand some of the distain for clones if GMK sets actually had QC and were available in stock. But as it is telling people they're bad and dismissing them for not paying $500 for bits of plastic they don't even know if they'll like is pretty elitist. Edit: I hear what people are saying about supporting artists, but buying a second hand set from mechmarket for $500 supports the artist just as much as buying clones. It would be great if more artists were able to license their designs for in stock caps so that there was an option which have continuing support.

@Sennenorochi

2 жыл бұрын

You are completely missing the point here. I’m not the biggest fan of switch and click or hipyo, but they both have stated many times that they dislike the current gb format and that they’re not fans of market prices. The point is, behind every gmk set there’s a designer who has gone through the effort of actually designing the set and taking it through the IC and gb phases, only to see their work stolen by some Chinese knock-off. We’ve even seen clones come out before the real gb. I think this is unacceptable. They’re not endorsing the clones out of respect for the work of the designers, not because they wanna gatekeep people from the hobby. Most of their content is also geared towards the budget/entry level crowd so your point doesn’t make a lot of sense in that regard either…

@medi6892

2 жыл бұрын

its not about gmk, its about the independent artist thyat gets his art stolen.

@FitLabb

2 жыл бұрын

@@medi6892 You are exactly right. It’s all about how the designers are getting ripped off without any credit or financial upside for their work when a clone set is purchased.

@manmanda

2 жыл бұрын

On top of that, the tournament was sponsored by companies who put these products on the market, It’s like playing in a Pokémon or a magic the gathering tournament and playing with cards printed from your home printer versus an actual card. In any other context, I understand why people use clones because of financial reasons. I don’t judge those who do, but one has to think about the designers who make those products and how these clones are usually mass made cheaply without consideration and essentially stealing from the og designers

@Nookie94

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sennenorochi I understand but as a consumer I just want nice keycaps, I don’t care about the morality of buying knock offs if the originals are never available.

Don’t think they should have eliminated the boards based off of looks cos some of them could have been sleepers and having them look boring could have been the point

@DoNotPassGO

Жыл бұрын

I agree. If we're going of of sound, that McDonald's board was imMACulate.

Great watch! Since there seem to be some debate, maybe just clarify that clones are a no go next time. (I would also support that decision for the reasons you named.) I’m in favor of you guys deciding and just using chat when in doubt. I’m watching you being the jury and not chat. Also, maybe theme the next one! Like, clean builds only or “creative” or “modded” and so on. Could help keeping down the amount of applicants.

Sorry I missed throwing my hat into the ring here, but it’s fun seeing all the unique & interesting builds people entered into the competition!

LOL, that desk mat is from LTT.

@mrkrill7355

2 жыл бұрын

Whyyyyyyyyy

@DogsAreGods

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrkrill7355 Yeah, my opinion on desk mats is that you should actually search for the most accurate tracking option. *YES, there are desk mats that track better for mice than others.*

@riceoverwife

2 жыл бұрын

@@DogsAreGods such as..? Would like to know

@chiizuu752

2 жыл бұрын

@@riceoverwife gaming mousepads

@riceoverwife

2 жыл бұрын

@@chiizuu752 lmfao i thought he meant as in aesthetic deskmats

I dont think it was fair to eliminate someone with clones. But in the end its out of pure taste. So its the judges decision. Love the vid!!

@SwitchandClickOfficial

Жыл бұрын

thanks!

all of the builds in this video are 10x times better than every Hipyo Tech build

@geonatikon9987

Жыл бұрын

lmao 💀

@bear_the_pear1963

Жыл бұрын

cap

That whole thing is scuffed, let the viewers decide

I honestly didn’t like this tournament compared to the last one. I feel like the judge system creates some weird takes. Definitely liked the chat vote from last time better.

@savagefb9307

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they just like real GMK and THOCC like I want chat to vote since they have diff opinions or Randy should have judged instead of Hipyo imo

@savagefb9307

2 жыл бұрын

@michael brown nah ik its for fun BUT THERE IS MONEY ON THE LINE.

@wiehanvanwyk8701

5 ай бұрын

Agreed. It also felt very rushed

How is Hipyo going to sit here and bag on people buying clones when he has holes in his shirt.

@abhrajitsaha5215

2 жыл бұрын

😂North Face aswell (That he flexes)

Is sick how fast your channel have grown, I remember I subscribed too you when you had like 10k subs.

We need more of these

that shark keycap was the single best keycap I saw in this video. Justice for Shark!

Why do they disregard keyboards that have clone or replica keycaps? I mean they look good and the original ones are overpriced.

@certifiedbruhmoment85

2 жыл бұрын

Because people consider it as art theft. I'm not saying I agree with this type of behavior, but even colorways are considered to be art theft. I can understand the ones with designs, but a simple color pattern? Just my opinion

@voiddragongaming154

2 жыл бұрын

Fax

@beaverbob3596

2 жыл бұрын

@@certifiedbruhmoment85 okay, yea that's more understandable, but when a gmk set is 150$ and a clone is 50$, but they look the same it's kinda stupid.

@debishvebishwish4839

2 жыл бұрын

Because there's lot of original keycaps that's cheaper.

@certifiedbruhmoment85

2 жыл бұрын

@@beaverbob3596 yep and i agree. only difference between real and fake is that some of us want to spend less money to leave more budget for the keyboard, and are impatient

Fun tourney. Thanks for hosting it!

I support everyone who buys clones. If these companies really cared about a small niche community they wouldn’t price basic keycaps at $120+ when there are better looking keycaps for wayyy cheaper. But hey every artists is free to charge whatever they want just like we are free to buy clones. Also, waiting a year to get keycaps I WANT NOW? No thanks.

@placeholder3863

2 жыл бұрын

yes I agree because a big company mass-producing keycaps care more about our community than individuals involved with the community

@chiizuu752

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget that there are idiots that ordered GMK Redacted, basically a BoW with black markings on some keycaps AND they waited more than 2 years

@lasercrafter4408

2 жыл бұрын

Kekw

i love these bracket style videos as it gives me inspiration for my next builds. amazing vid switchnclick!

@SwitchandClickOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Not seen ur vids for a lot of time now they have gotten better :)

@SwitchandClickOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

you know the community is struggling when the immediate reaction to Beam Springs is "I hate it"

@chunkymilk1288

2 жыл бұрын

That part of the video was depressing

@sonicase

2 жыл бұрын

i call it modern or gen 2 keyboard enthusiasts ... they're definitely not fans of retro boards and everything has to be either linear or tactile and can't be loud at all. ... the feel of modern keyboards is a different vibe from retro boards. but it does come down to preference.

@torchiereful

2 жыл бұрын

@@sonicase MX blue is fun and games until you spend 3 figures on something you can't take to an office :(

ive been waiting forever for this

Nice contest, but thought the winners weren't as good as many contenders... 🤔 Maybe you could make a colab with the guys so that each choses 10 keyboard on it's own and you guys decide toguether the best! Would be easier to get sponsors too!

Appreciate the use of the Galdin Quay music here. I was jamming to it and only realized halfway through the vid. Complements the thocs nicely.

@SwitchandClickOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Watched the first one Watched it twice so good and this one was good too ty

@SwitchandClickOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

hey umm since u have done reviews on some redragon keyboards could u do a review on the redragon k617 fizz

3:06 I have that deskmat! It's the Linus Tech Tips northern lights deskmat and I love it!

looks fun. hopefully i can catch the next submission and try on of my boards

the super clacky holy panda sound test! music to my ears!

Seeing so many keyboards not even having the chance to show what they sound like is super upsetting. There were so many beautifully designed ones that you didn't want to listen to just because... reasons. Older version of this contest was much much better.

This is so cooolll I'm happy this video idea is back again !! I love these videos 🤩

@aresaurelian

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. It is inspiring and gives such a strong community vibe. Love it.

@SwitchandClickOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

It’s funny that two ppl from the last keeb competition (gambol and dr pingu) 😂😂

Hi, I like your videos and the way that you show an give the information really I appreciate. So someday I saw a keyboard e-yooso z 11 RGB AND z88, do you have videos about that references? are they good? If you have information about them will be great if share. Thanks for your job!!!

2 of my favorite keyboard yourtubers

THE LTT DESK MAT CHANGES THE GAME

Yess finaly a new video

My only concern is that Hipyo talks about how much he hates group buys and promotes trying to find key caps in stock. Then in this video he’s like “oh its a clone uhhhhh” just seems a little backwards to me

@wanf872

2 жыл бұрын

clones are not licensed in stock products. there is a difference between buying a nicepbt set of either an original design or a licensed collaboration with the designer and going to aliexpress and buying some clones of an original design.

@nonguccighost5771

2 жыл бұрын

I think the issue of “supporting clones” publicly is due keeping the peace. Nowadays the elitist will literally rip you piece by piece (especially on Reddit) for using or supporting clones, but I also think it’s important to respect the artist especially because of how big of an audience they reach.

@vectivuz1858

2 жыл бұрын

​@@wanf872 so the different miami/midnight themed caps are licensed? I don't think so. They just have the same colorway.

@chiizuu752

2 жыл бұрын

@@vectivuz1858 lmao i just realized Akko, HK Gaming, and Domikey have miami nights

@chiizuu752

2 жыл бұрын

@@nonguccighost5771 as much as i want to support the artist, im not gonna waste half of my budget on overpriced colored plastics when that money could've went for a better keyboard or switches

Hey, loved the video! You said that drop i running buy one get one, can you give me a link to this or something? I cannot find it on drop website and I am planning on buying some accesorries for my keyboard so it would be good to use 😁

Very cool! if you ever host another one, ill be sure to join ;)

I find it interesting that something meant for typing gets so much attention for the sound.

This is so sick, love the collabs.

@SwitchandClickOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

What do you need to do to participate for the next keyboard tournament?

Say an all-black keyboard is "boring" Make an all-white keyboard their grand prize winner.

@certifiedbruhmoment85

2 жыл бұрын

How many all black keyboards have you seen? Give them a break, the person could've chosen any unique colors but chose the basic black. On the other hand, only mechanical prebuilt keebs are mainly white. Please stop

@elijahbyoun7719

2 жыл бұрын

The irony lmao

@sofiakuminek3784

2 жыл бұрын

Legit fax though

@savagefb9307

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it just says so much about them

@chiizuu752

2 жыл бұрын

Bruhh no way, I ain't even finished with the vid but wtf

ayo i see that vainsz entered the competition and he makes insane custom keyboards (he defo has the budget for it loool)

Justice for my shark artisan! Lol

What are the keycaps of the 65% keyboard in the top right at 5:42?

Eliminating people based on whether they're using replicas or not is lame, especially when in stock options are only now coming into popularity

@dextrition

2 жыл бұрын

fr

@medi6892

2 жыл бұрын

copying this from my reply to another comment that saiud the same as you: its not about gmk, its about the independent artist thyat gets his art stolen.

@MDLZero

2 жыл бұрын

@@medi6892 This doesn't really hold when the artisans aren't always being cloned though. It's a case by case thing.

@dextrition

2 жыл бұрын

@@medi6892 yeah but like just the colours arent exactly art

@medi6892

2 жыл бұрын

@@dextrition novelties are though

1:28 wow @Switch and Click , wow.

Bro the sound at 8:30 had me on the floor

What do you need to do to participate for the next keyboard tournament? Bc I want to

vintage keyboard racism

Hey, just wondering is there a consolation prize for this tournament? Thanks.

what's your opinion on the gateron oil kings?

I’m making a gmmk pro build! After watching this I am even more hyped

does anyone know what the keycaps set at 10:08 is?

I see the theme here....next tourney will be a $2000 tourney right? wahooo!!!!

@jaeshim_

Жыл бұрын

Hi!

Not anyone can afford GMK. That's why it's called custom kb. They customized they kb based on their taste. So if u have High end kb with original keycaps thock auto win

23:08 BEST TORTILLA CHIPS THANKS HIPPEO

can someone tell me the keycaps on the re65/rainbow cats keyboard? theyre adorable

Given the utter mess I made of my Machenike (resulting in a daisy chain of soldered jumpers) simply attempting a tape mod, I would never dare enter this kind of competition 🤣

3rd round top right what keycaps are those?

Will you do another keyboard tournament?, that looks awesome and I have a keyboard to submit!

This was great! Inspiring. Thank you. ☺

If you can’t buy the original gmk, buy something else with original with a lower price point instead of clones. How hard is it to do that ?

how dont u have a mil yet ur one of thes best tech creaatores out thsere

the penguin one kinda sounds like he out a tshirt under the keyboard to make it sound better

These vids are too good

@SwitchandClickOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I wasn’t really a fan of this tournament, to be honest. I found some of the comments made by the judges to be a bit tasteless and performative in a way that kind of reminded me of high school mean girls, if that makes sense. The judging criteria also seemed to be a bit… inconsistent? I think that having the chat votes implemented in future tournaments will allow for a more balanced and fair round of judging. I will say that I loved the builds that everyone came up with though! I’m not a huge keyboard person but I watched along with my brother and we had a great time seeing everyone’s handiwork. A big congratulations to the participants, we were very impressed! 🤗💖

@potatofuryy

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the ridiculing of people “not having money” was quite off-putting IMO.

bruh that soleniod one sounded like a freaking pinball flipper

that IBM chonk board is my favorite. ;)

i just watched your $500 tournament 7 minutes ago 😂

I really like the new upload shedule tbh

@SwitchandClickOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

i am surprised someone entered the mc65 into the tournament. it's not really a fair fight between that and ikki68s and tofus. was that actually darian or did someone impersonate him?

@chouwachan

2 жыл бұрын

Someone impersonated him but tbh the sound test for that board wasn't anything special either

How to win any Keyboard contest: Cats

McDonalds build thumbnail. Savage 😂

can you make a video on how to make a custom keyboard on a budget

hey switch and click do you think you can make a keyboard with holy pandas? I'm 12 and I cant really do anything like that but I would love to see you make one so can you?

The comeback of dr pingu!!!

I think u guys should have made it a little more cleaner because most of the times I couldn’t tell which keyboard won , so yeah just a little opinion of mine

Wot wa the mouse pad with the fish? Reminds me of yin and yang

Mine didn’t get even get heard at all cause y’all thought it was from the other round Sadge😭

love these videos

@SwitchandClickOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

damn.. religeous leaders are less biased

Hey Betty! When I saw the Notification That You uploaded, my Mood turned from Bored to Happy 😄 Keep Making banger video's!

Literally the first one u eliminated I loved :(

Love the vid! I know its purely based on personal opinion but it would’ve been nice to have some of the clacky builds to be push through the next round. That’s just me tho

10:22 that the best one for me

If u were supposed to make these but idk the 1st round the top left one I got on amazon

You should try to improve the magic refiner mk14

It’s 6 am where I am and I woke up just to see this

whats the board on the bottom left at 9:05 ?

I just finished pooping and I come back to a new video!

Sheesh!!everythings so good

What timezone do these uploads originate from?

Honestly, the off-hand dismissal of the Model F, practically a unicorn in that good a condition, is saddening. I get it, you guys like small, quiet, cute pieces of plastic, but damn, could you at least try to get out of that wheelhouse?

"No matter how good you are you will be judged by your looks"

I want to hear spicy kitty rolls sound test