Hi Everyone! Thank you for the great comments! I also received some great technical comments from great technical minds about sound speed. I mentioned that higher frequency sounds have higher speeds Vs. Low frequency sounds having lower speeds, but at the same time, sound speed is pretty much set in a given controlled medium (air, 345 m/s). There is an equation to determine speed of sound based on frequency and wavelength, and it's Speed = Frequency * Wavelength. Per said equation, it would mean that as frequency increases, so should sound. However, one fact that I didn't go deep into was that Frequency and Wavelength are actually inversely proportional. So as one increases, the other decreases. Given that information, as Frequency increases, the wavelength decreases, and the speed will pretty much stay constant. With acoustic dispersion, there is a chance that higher frequencies will travel faster than lower frequencies... but that is getting too deep into this. Sorry if anyone was confused at all by my generalization! However, the impact this has on the sound and the foam usage still remains, so thicker foam is needed to block deeper sounds!

@honghobbies3413

2 жыл бұрын

This is the best video I've seen explaining some aspects of keyboard acoustics. I'd love to have a chat to share knowledge and bounce ideas off each other to help our community understand acoustics even further.

@bradyvilhauer4445

2 жыл бұрын

You are not getting too deep into this!!! I would have read 7 more paragraphs haha but I’m studying audio for a living by passion so maybe I’m alone in that XD

@meh6513

2 жыл бұрын

Now put the clacky switches on the thocc build and thocc switch in clack build

@julesy1x810

2 жыл бұрын

I love he you went into the science of it as a beginner I understand a lot more about foam and modding because of it

@rubenscheuer519

2 жыл бұрын

I love that you explained the science behind it. But what about PE foam (PE-HD)? It seems to be less of a foam but more like a foil. I have heard that some really recommend using PE foam for their builds, but how does it really impact sound? Is it more like a inbetween of regular foam and masking tape kind of?

Please keep up the science! Nothing more satisfying than getting to learn the science behind your hobby and understanding why tings like sound behave the way they do!

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

:) Definitely will!

@AndrewMcDreamy

2 жыл бұрын

Yes yes yes!

@jesseyu9738

Жыл бұрын

lol i just throw whatever i see into a keyboard and i screw around with everything untill it sounds decently ok in a office situation

@wil-

11 ай бұрын

I fully agree :)

@gameboyv1790

7 ай бұрын

@@jesseyu9738lol

The reason I enjoy your videos is because of how objective they are, and are the most scientific in approach, compared to other channels. I especially value the comparisons. This is what makes you unique. Keep it going.

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Matthew! Really appreciate your feedback and it'll help me find my niche and shape the channel :) will keep it up as best as I can! Love your channel!

@nobody-bt7mu

2 жыл бұрын

Matthew's into keyboards?! Nice!

@MatthewEncina

2 жыл бұрын

@@Keybored Thanks! For this video, what was super helpful was learning about thick foam, and how that kills deeper sounds. I was struggling to remove the clacky, high-pitched, sound from my Q2 build, but didn't even think that the culprit could be the thick foam between the PCB and plate (thought it was helping). I'll try this next. Thanks!

@MatthewEncina

2 жыл бұрын

@@nobody-bt7mu 👌🏽

@lone0017

2 жыл бұрын

Second this 👍

You explaining that clackthock and thickthin foam relationship was REALLY IMPRESSIVE. Please share such gold knowledge with us more often.

@errvega2705

6 ай бұрын

Bro you shouldve known from 5ghz vs 2.4ghz wifi

I loveddd the inclusion of the explanation about the foam and high/low frequency sounds. It's really cool to see how science affects keyboarding in general. I personally would like to see more of this in the future :D

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

:) Will do! Will keep working on that

@rlnwvr

2 жыл бұрын

@@Keybored I assume different foam material give out different sound profile. Would be great to know which material affect which frequency.

@AndresGarcia-qk3sj

2 жыл бұрын

@@rlnwvr it depends more on the density of the foam, since there are a shit ton of different materials

This is how I am supposed to be researching when getting into hobbies, not just buying things and spending all the money. This channel is keeping up education as much as hobby. Great work!

LOVE the technical breakdown, it's always so cool to hear what types of expertise fellow keeb enthusiasts have

Not only do I like hearing the science behind audio performance of keyboards from you but it's exactly why I just subscribed. Every channel demonstrates things but given there's too many factors to find your desired build just from observing others learning the underlying concepts is a big help to figuring out the process.

Never knew keyboards could be tuned this much, and I like that you explained how each change modifies the sound. Subbed!

Thank you so much for making this video! I recently got into the hobby and have wondered why certain boards sound a certain way. Your explanation of how sound works was easily understandable and helped me understand how I want to mod my keyboards for now on. You're a legend in this community who doesn't get enough credit. Keep up the videos!

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

:) Thank you so much! I'm glad the content is helpful and I'll keep it up!

Absolutely love the approach to sound! A lot of mods that come about come simply from trial and error, and less so scientific approach with how sound travels through certain materials. Its great to see someone in the community explaining the certain aspects of sound in a more detailed way

The best kind of thock is the thock that's backed up by science.

What a really great in depth video! I love the scientific explanation for it! Love this man

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was enjoyable! Hope it's helpful for many!

I LOVE the science thats hidden in the background. Not only does this allow me (and other people) to understand more about keyboards, but it also sets you apart from other youtubers! Explaining the science helps me understand and remember the mods going into my keyboard. Having a background in aerospace engineering makes you a special yter that can explain the science better than anybody else.

Thank for bringing reason and logic to the possible mods on a keyboard thus allowing us to make an educated decision on what to do (and more importantly why) depending on our goals. Great content. The difference between the two setups on the same case is mind-blowing, personally loved the thocky one but the middle option was surprisingly pleasant as well

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

:) glad it was enjoyable!

Getting deep into the science/physics of how/why things work the way they do is the best way I learn, so I appreciate those little tid bits. This video was very helpful largely because of that. Keep it!

please don't stop doing the scientific explanations. it's really enjoyable to know why something acts the way it does. love your content and specially the modding videos. the creativity is just unreal in my opinion.

#1 keyboard KZreadr imo. Another great analysis and breakdown, especially with the acoustics and foam. I have the Wind-X, and even with Gat Oil Kings, it's a bit clacky. I'm going to try some thinner foam now. Thanks again!

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

Hope it works out!

Thank you so much for explaining it this way. The fact you explained it with science but also used the same keyboard for both builds gives me hope!

I absolutely love the technical portions - please keep including them in your videos! This video was also incredibly informative and definitely has helped me to figure out how to go about my keyboard modding! (I'm a newbie to the hobby haha)

I think learning about the science behind the hobby will help fine tune your board to what you want it to sound like. I for sure had a takeaway from this video about foam and sound and what I should do to make my next board sound great. Keep up the good work man!

This is just great content for someone looking to get into the hobby but doesn’t know where to start. Please make this a series!

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

:) Great to hear that! I'll keep working on bringing out more content like this!

@reillocb

2 жыл бұрын

@@Keybored humbly requesting a video on lubing, I still don't really understand the motivation for the mod

@tazzoholic

Жыл бұрын

@@Keybored if this is going to be a series, I'm waiting for the more in depth explanation on which foam material to use like PE, poron, silicone etc... like when you explain why you chose certain foams to use when making it thocky

Hands down one of the most informative videos on breaking into this new hobby. Thank you and keep up the great work!

Giving people the foundational tools to understand how things work and create new constructions that achieve their desired result faster/in a more creative way is just incredible. I have no doubt it will also inspire some future scientists in the hobby. Thank you for being such a unique channel in the keyboard space :)

give this man a degree in modding keyboards! You are the only person in this world who was able to scientifically explain how to make the sound thocky or clacky in modding your keyboard. my guys is so underrated.

Your content has been getting fantastic recently! I love the skits you've been doing and please continue your use of more scientific explanations. I think a lot in this hobby is extremely subjective and hard to portray, so i think having some objective measurements and explanations really helps. Keep it up and I look forward to more videos!

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I'll keep it up!

just started into keyboard hobby, and randomly hooked with your video. As gamer and also Aerospace engineer, i really like how you approach the details how sounds behave and explain it thoruoghly. Thank you for this great content!

In love with this Thock build! Simply awesome!!

The section about explaining scientifically in great details about how thickness of foam affects sound is definitely welcomed! For ages I have been seeing keyboard contents "guesstimating" what foam does for your keyboard, with the myth of more foam = Deep Sound, which you have debunked scientifically. That also explains why my ID67 sounds fuller and deeper if I use lesser layers of foam. Bottomline is, most of us aren't knowledgeable in the scientific side of things, so your input is really what we didn't know we needed in this hobby. Thank you and keep it up!

Finally glad to see some science in this hobby. I feel like a lot of mods are just "this works" without any evidence or reason so it's interesting to see why. Great video!

Wow. I have been into this mech keyboard life for a little over a year and a half and am very much a novice but you have continually expanded my knowledge with every video. You did it again with the Mill-Max hot swap sockets. Have always avoided soldering boards up to this point because of the semi-permanence of it but that is a game changer for me for and will get me into some boards I avoided because of it. The explanations of the sounds and the uses of foam, on point and excellent! Great work as always and much appreciated from this keyboard and Keybored enthusiast.

Absolutely loved this video. It gives me insights to how to achieve the sound that I want, without experimenting much!

Loving the technicality! ❤️ Well done.

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

As a fellow engineer (mechanical for me), I really love all this technical info you have been incorporating into your videos lately!

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

:) Great to hear! Science!

Keybored, this was such an awesome video! I loved the skit in the first part of the video, and I really liked how you used your background to give us a very nice detailed scientific way to explain thock and clack! 😁👍

Keep up the science dude! It's what makes your channel more unique and educates viewers to experiment their own builds

I do some audio stuff for a living, this so far has easily been my favorite keyboard mod video hands down. Absolutely keep up the science & reasoning & strategy. This is phenomenal

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Brady! Good to see some great technical minds gather here!

Great video. There's definitely a lot of conflicting information regarding what affects a keyboard's sound, all of it with little to no citation. This is really helpful, I hope you can detail more stuff like this, would love one on stabiliser rattle/ticking and what actually causes it/how different fixes work.

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds good! I appreciate the support!

I LOVED the science, please keep it coming

Love the science in the video. First definitive video I've heard about sound and how it's shaped. Keep up the good work

The profile of the keycaps makes a huge difference too, I noticed you had the SA's on the thoc and cherry profile on the clack build. Learned a lot though, thanks.

Insane. I love the aerospace engineer background take. It’s refreshing to see actual objective science behind sound profiles vs guessing. Subscribed for sure.

what a great breakdown. Thanks for the side by side examples... so helpful!

I love the science in the videos please keep doing it, it’s great!!

This video is fantastic! It also helps me understand why my Tofu65 build sounds the way that it does. I have StipidFish foam in it and it's my clackiest board by far.

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

:) Glad it helps!

Keep up the detailed explanation. This kind of content is desperately needed in the keyboard community.

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

:) Thank you! Will keep trying to incorporate some objectivity into this hobby!

This is the most helpful and informative keyboard video! I watch tonsssss and this is the only breakdown I’ve seen like this. More please!

THIS IS SO SATISYING TO WATCH. Thank you for explaining this all step by step! Appreciate it!

Something interesting to note about the clacky builds, the all-foam build was not necessarily higher pitched. I'm hearing a lot of higher mid frequencies, hence the "clack". the no-foam build added a lot of bass and low mids, scooped the higher mids, and allowed the highest end frequencies to be more noticeable. It sounds both higher pitched and deeper at the same time. I'm also specifically referring to the alphas; the spacebar sound really skews your perception of the overall sound unless you're actively trying to ignore it. I'd love to send the alpha sounds through an EQ analyzer and see exactly what frequencies I'm hearing.

Thanks for the very interesting information! One thing though: since you didn't use the same switch for both the "clack" and the "thock" builds, for all we know, maybe the switch IS the most important for the sound? I don't think it is, and I believe what you showed us, but I think it might be interesting to test this with a "neutral" sounding switch (whatever that may be) in both build variants. :)

@Random-oj2yr

2 жыл бұрын

Switch does play a role, however even if you were to put the gateron inks into a clacks build, it would still sound clacky a little bit deeper but still clacky. I tried this on my kbd75 because I had the same doubt xd

I made my first build around 2 weeks ago and I was very happy with everything but the sound. I'm so glad I came across this video

If my professors were like you, I would have not failed some of my classes. I just found out about this channel and after watching 1-3 videos, I'm hooked. Subscribed!!!

Great informational video! When I originally got into mech keyboards, everyone kept talking about thocc. But I realized I liked the "creamy" sound better which seems to fall in line with the muted clack sound.

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

:) I know exactly what you're talking about... That smooth velvety sound

did the thock build have plate foam?

Scott please keep the science part in the videos, it’s really informative and brings the keyboard videos to a higher level. That being said, I was looking for a way to make my aluminium Tofu sound deeper, thinking adding more foam would give me that. Thanks to your explanation I now know what to do.

Love the science-based component of this video! Please keep it up. Huge differentiator over other keyboard KZreadrs and I learn a lot about how to make my own builds and videos from yours.

@Keybored

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I appreciate it!

I love how you're using science to explain keyboards! It gives us enthusiasts a deeper understanding of how everything works, and it's very useful!

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

:) Thank you!

The BEST video anyone would need to understand how to shape your keyboard sound. Thank you!

thank you so much for this video! i've just started doing research on making my own keyboard which led me down a rabbit hole of different switches, then different keycaps, then lubing switches, then lubing stabilizers, then modding stabilizers, then the tape mod, and then the foam mod- and at this point i knew i loved the thocky keyboards, but saw how many people suggested the foam mod and i was planning on doing that despite wondering why those keyboards sounded much higher pitched. but thanks to this video, it helped me realize what i need to do by clearly explaining the science behind it and a night and day comparison between thock and clack while also showing what you did to get the results. i can't thank you enough!

Definitely keep the science! I love your stuff, especially because of the scientific breakdowns. You are my favorite keebs youtuber ^_^

Yes more! Love the explanation / science stuff

Love the technical, more scientific approach, makes it easier to understand for me. Great video!

I love the science you include wit your vids! Big fan since last week

I was also playing bard in lost ark. Also thank you for sharing the science behind how foam effects the sound. I love the innovation your channel provides

I'm new to the keyboard hobby, and I really really loved the science part. It definietely helps you understand what you can do to adjust your keyboard according to what you desire. Please keep the science! Also I loved that you used the wind x65 for bot h the thockiest and clackiest keyboards. It was like a controlled experiment lol. Love the channel btw, keep up the awesome work!!

Awesome to include the science behind the modding. Really learned some interesting things! ThNk you!!

This is very informative, the science behind keyboard sound profiles was pretty interesting as well. Good stuff.

love that you went into the actual science of the sound. This was a great video

i have watached my share of video on keyboards but you are the first to explain foams in a way that i properly understood, great stuff

This helped way more than I was expecting thank you for this video! ❤️

MAN the effort and background study you put in these videos is outstanding.

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

:) Glad it was helpful, and if so, I'll keep trying to incorporate more!

Really love theese videos where you scientifically explain something that comes from keyboards! Keep it up

This is what i am looking for in a video, thank you! ❤❤❤

I love these technical deep dives, please do more of them!

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Will do!

Please keep up the science! I know I'm late to the game with this video but I just discovered your channel and I'm getting deeper into this hobby and your videos are a Godsend!

I love all of the information in your videos. Please keep doing it.

I absolutely absolutely absolutely love the science!!! Keep it up!!

This was by far the most informative and digestible tutorial on keyboard modding

omg i love that scientific explanation part, just straight up explained the reason. i always thought thicker foam = good but now i know thanks to you. superb video man 👍

Brilliant! This is exactly what i was looking for

This is really great info, few will have the expertise to explain this. Definitely make use of your knowledge to add that extra detail wherever applicable.

this.video.is.incredible. One of the best content about custom keyboards for sure ! everything is just... explained but... the right way ! I don't know ! it's just... YES !

Yes yes yes! Please more science! A video like this helps to demystify the way certain keyboards and combination of mods sound.

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

I hope so too! Will keep trying!

This is a terrific video! I loved the technical information you included and the you presented it made it accessible. It was great to see it applied and in context as well

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback! I appreciate the sentiment :)

Loved the video and the dive into the science! Even before you said it, based on this and some of your other videos, I was thinking, Scott seems like an engineer! Will definitely be referencing this as I think through future sound modding. I feel like your keyboard modding videos really are the peak example of what any content creator I’ve seen is putting out, and I’m always looking forward to the next video!

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

:) I went to school for engineering, but ended up doing something entirely different now... that's life for you!

You never disappoint, your videos are always entertaining and informative. Thanks for making my days better 😁👍

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!

So much info packed into 1 video. truly love your content.

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

:) Glad to hear that and thank you for the support!

Thanks for all the effort you put into this video!

That’s the best tutorial for creating any board you want, great job 👏

Beginner; the concise yet technical explanations really helped understand a variety of concepts that appear throughout so many other enthusiast videos; ace efficiency. Thank you!!

I love this video. Please, never stop including the science behind what makes keyboards tick.

Actually learned from this one video than certain other channels watching tens of them and having it seem like almost random trial and error without any idea (from them or myself) why their mods have the effect they do. Kudos!

Loved how informative this was. Thanks for providing such useful and more objective info. Its so refreshing to see this kind of thing

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

:) Glad to hear that!

I really like this type of video. Thank you so much!

Your clip has helped me understand more about clack and thock sound. Thank you very much

This was amazing for me. Loved this video and I prefer Thock but clack has a weird charm to it too. The science take was nice and I appreciated it and as long as you keep the science simple, in other words dont go to deep and lose your audience and the goal of the video, I think this is great. I have been struggling trying to understand when I get a board what I can do to actually achieve the sound I want, or think I want and of the many videos I have watched so far this is the most objective and helpful!

Huge fan of how you incorporate technical information and as much technical reproducibility as possible to your videos. Keep it up!

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

:) Thanks! More coming!

Love your videos man ! Really enjoyed learning about the science of how it all comes together.👍 Hope you can make more similar entertaining and educational video. Amazing video!!

thank you so much for this video, I recently bought a royal kludge rk68 and now they come with foam in the case and under the pcb. it kept clacking but I thought it was primarily because of my interfering cherry profile keycaps. after watching your video I removed the PCB foam, and voila ! it finally thoccs !

These intros are getting better and better 🤣 I now get really excited when you upload, Scott! Awesome video!

@Keybored

2 жыл бұрын

:) Thank you so much!