I love it how not only does he talk about what happened, but he also gives a short action packed game analysis

@jimkeats891

4 ай бұрын

He does the BEST recaps...as he will show the plays that resulted in the actual penalty calls. HOW is this NOT a "thing"!?!

Also the Avalanche commentators were awesome. I was laughing when he said "there handing out to many men penalty like popcorn tonight boys"

This is great game analysis! Five minutes is just enough time to get all of the important action in, as well as the interesting, unusual, and funny observations that you always seem to make. Nicely done!

when the colorado player touched the puck coming on the ice to change with his teammate he was changing with, that colorado teammate had both feet still on ice, while the 6th boston player was being called simultaneously.

@twerps1

4 ай бұрын

Its close but I believe he did have one skate of the ice. In any case, it doenst matter. Boston's 'Too many men' should have been called when they touched so that following 'Too many men' from Colorado normally never could happen anyway.

@tcrowley2973

4 ай бұрын

But…..he was actively involved in the play, Boston with 6 skaters was

@tcrowley2973

4 ай бұрын

Not actively involved

@wfoster2968

4 ай бұрын

I dont have the exact verbiage in front of me but I believe there is a rule about players at the bench changing out not counting towards too many men. I'm saying this as a bruins fan, I dont think the avs should have caught the penalty here. maybe the exact verbiage would clarify though, where kiviranta gets on and has the puck while the other player is still technically on the ice

@IcarusLP

4 ай бұрын

Avs shouldn’t have been called on it. It should’ve been called when bruins touched the puck with 6 guys just on the ice

We were at this game last night and it was an awesome crowd. The Boston Fans are to say the least very loud and vocal, but it was all tasteful and in good fun. Ribbing each way with lots of laughs... The double too many men on the ice was such a weird call. Seeing the replay here, I agree, the Refs were... well, they were Refs! Great Game. Glad the Avs came out on top of this Gritty Hockey Win!!!

@therealten8090

4 ай бұрын

The ground was great! Flat crowds are noticeable and great crowds never get the credit they deserve!

@planeandsimpleaviation

4 ай бұрын

As a hockey ref, sometimes we miss stuff. It's best, though, not to blame it on us. We're watching in a much more limited field of vision, watching the game from 5 feet, versus the 50 feet you all see it at. We definitely miss stuff, and we all hate it, but referees are human.

At the 1:55 mark on the video the wide angle shows that neither referee is calling a delayed penalty for too many men. They hadn't noticed yet. So when the Bruins touch the puck they are not going to blow it down. They don't notice until the Colorado too many men occurs.

@12369ja

4 ай бұрын

Too many men penalty is typically the linesmen that c as lls it not the refs, do the linesmen will tell the ref too many men, then the ref announces it

@dalegarraway9865

4 ай бұрын

@@12369ja Who ever sees it first calls it. Since the linesmen did not whistle the play dead they clearly did not see it either.

That was the absolute laziest penalty shot by Pasta. Dude is either red hot, or the turnover machine with zero ambition. There’s no in between.

That Pasta shoot-out "shot" was brutal!

This channel is better than Eck. Just sayin'

@crusDbumcheeks

4 ай бұрын

who cares?

I seem to remember a call when someone tripped on his own stick and got a call for embellishing.

Happened during the world juniors a few years ago between Canada and the US. Believe it was the gold medal game too

As a linesmen i find the to many men one of the hardest to see. If you lose focus on the puck for just a second you can miss an offside, icing, high stick. So yes. The game is sometimes a bit to fast :p

The first penatly would be against Boston. It should have been called when it happened and the second one shouldn't count.

@Redmenace96

4 ай бұрын

That's the way I understand it.

@dalegarraway9865

4 ай бұрын

The ref crew have to notice that there were too many Bruins on the ice before it can be called. Which happened first is irrelevant. They didn't notice it until after the Colorado call, that is why both teams got called.

I really think the game is moving too fast for the refs.

@stevenking9357

4 ай бұрын

Good point.

@clanechelon

4 ай бұрын

it's been moving too fast for the refs for years. No wonder there is so much inconsistencies in penalty calling. It really should just be video replays and sensors in this days and age. Have some people handy to break up fights and do face off. If we are afraid that consistency will mean more penalty, then its about time to modernize the rules so that it makes sense and can be applied as written and consistently.

@stevenking9357

4 ай бұрын

@@clanechelon Well said.

@Rosenstock-kz1wj

4 ай бұрын

Agreed, but I think the inconsistency, though frustrating when it happens to your team, is part of the fun of the game. A perfect game loses some of the beauty and fun.

@krakenspectacor

4 ай бұрын

@@clanechelonyou think you want that but you really don’t. Game will end up like the last 5 minutes of a basketball game.

the 6 man call was brilliant: guy comes in and plays the puck while the other one has still both skates on the ice -> too many man and simultaneously the other team is just skating around with 6 guys -> both teams bench minor

@ph1shstyx

4 ай бұрын

The issue is, is that boston technically should have been called with too many men when they touched the puck, but you can see that the stripes weren't counting until they called the too many men on colorado and realized the bruins had 6 on the ice too

Guess we screwed the pooch 😅 haven't heard that in a minute 😂😂

“Best officials” - Gary

Colorado too many men was a blown call he went over the boards for 2 seconds like that doesnt happen all the time. Nice job zebras

This was a banger of a game top notch!

This game featured outstanding play from both teams and both goaltenders, even though both sides had some bad gaffes. Fitting that it was tied after 65 minutes and two rounds of a shootout.

''Stripes'' 🤣🤣🤣

Looks like the Avs got shafted on that call

Never seen that in 25 yrs of coaching. One time I had a player tripped and there was a delayed penalty. We had the puck for over 30 seconds and when the other team got possession play continued for 10-12 seconds and then the ref called the penalty on my team. I didn't finish that game on the bench...ha

That goal by LOC was one of the sexiest goals I’ve seen this season.

Ok, I'm a ref - this was, as you said, the refs "screwing the pooch". If Boston has too many men (TMM) on the ice, and they have the puck, the play should be blown dead. Nothing after that point matters, so you ignore the Avs TMM. (By the way, technically you can have 6 skaters on the ice at the same time, AS LONG AS the player coming on doesn't play the puck before the player he's replacing gets off.) That didn't happen here so technically Colorado had TMM. But, since the penalized team (Bruins) played the puck after committing the TMM infraction, the whistle should have gone to kill the play, and the Avs TMM is irrelevant. This was a case of the refs getting together to try to minimize their mistake. But with all the cameras, the truth is easy to spot. I don't like calling out refs, but when they're wrong, they're wrong. And calling it like it is is what makes a good referee.

@dalegarraway9865

4 ай бұрын

The Refs have to notice that there are too many Bruins on the ice before they can blow it down. The penalty was not being called at that point - they hadn't noticed.

@FactsMatter

4 ай бұрын

@@dalegarraway9865 Fair analysis, but that just supports my opening claim that the refs "screwed the pooch". 4 officials need to see 6 Boston skaters for the amount of time they were too many. There's no excuse at this level to miss that. You should NEVER have a situation where BOTH teams get TMM penalties that don't occur simultaneously, when the first offending team has possession of the puck before the second team offends. They HAVE TO SEE IT.

I’m so mad I fell asleep. But I was reeeeally high mkay. Like two peanut butter and jellies high mkay. Then I laid down and my dog started snuggling. I was powerless mkay. I fell asleep fast, like reeeeally fast mkay.

That rantanen goal was funny

looks like a great call from the Ref

Rantanens goal was just nasty

the ref probably didn't notice until the avs call was made and the linesman advised of the boston infraction. it happens and they can make the call after the fact.

Apparently a double too-many-men call has happened in the World Juniors before, but I don’t know what specific game.

Boston was going to get a TMM penalty but had to touch the puck for a whistle. Meanwhile, the Colorado player entering the ice played the puck before the exiting player was off the ice ... so the whistle happened because Col had the puck. Not an officiating problem at all ... just a freak coincidence that rarely if ever happens.

The avs bruins calls were fucking hilarious

Former lacrosse official here. I've seen co-incidental too many before. It's been years since I officiated a game, so I may be wrong on the boxlax rules but IIRC if the non-possessing team has two many men, its a delayed penalty. But if the attacking team butchers the goalie-to-the-bench swap .... you can see where this is going. Maybe some other Canadian boxlax ref with more recent experience (and a rulebook) can elaborate ....

How do both teams have possession of the puck at the same time ?

Unless the changing players are involved in play, the too many men call is at the discretion of the ref, so Boston getting the puck does not automatically stop play (or maybe it was not really an infraction initially because the leaving Boston player was within 5 feet of the bench). But, no icing. The leaving Boston player seemed to never leave the ice. When the Boston defence-man played the puck forward and Boston still had too many men, the ref was like okay, that’s it. Unfortunately, Colorado also had too many men at that point as well (the Colorado player that entered the ice played the puck before the player leaving was in the box so that’s an automatic penalty -the 5 foot buffer is not even considered). This is my reading of the rule, but maybe not the only way refs could handle this sort of thing. Considering the waved-off icing, I suspect the refs got the penalties right, as strange as it is.

Stayed up till midnight to listen to my Bruins lose (can't watch it cause its "out of region") great game though

I was reffing a girl's AAA summer tournament and I had to call too many players 3 times in a row on one team because the dad running the door couldn't handle his duties... my partner and I even tried to help but no dice lol

The irony of mutual 6-skater calls resulting in 4v4 play.

Icing call/no call is just bizarre at this point

@snows12152

4 ай бұрын

It’s one of the simplest calls in the league too, you’d think it would be pretty easy to see if it’s a whistle or not

@Asymmetrical-Saggin

4 ай бұрын

@@snows12152 Go apply to be a ref if it is so easy. You won't, you'll just continue to complain like everyone else. Refs are bad. they make bc calls. nothing new.. get over it

@InchFab

4 ай бұрын

The rules specifically say that if the referee thinks that it's a legitimate attempt at a pass and not just a huck down the ice, or if the goalie comes out to play it, it can be waved off.

@johky

4 ай бұрын

@@InchFabthat’s not the rule at all, but there are many OTHER reasons it could’ve been waved off. This includes but is not limited to: goalie leaving his crease, the defending player completing the icing doesn’t appear to be making an effort to beat the puck to the goal line, the puck was deflected by the defending team at some point after the offensive dump in, the referee deems the puck was playable by the defense team but no attempt was made to play it.

I was at this game yesterday and we were all so confused lmao. The referee's mic wasn't working last nightbut I could VERY clearly read his lips that said "too many men on the ice". He then pointed in only direction and yet both teams ended up in the 4v4 lol.

Nothing is more crazy than the refs calling “Every player on the ice has a 2 minute penalty”

That’s just funny. Reminds me of Slapshot.

I've been watching hockey for 55 years and I can't remember ever seeing this happen. Pretty odd. They to make too many men reviewable.

@RoyalMela

4 ай бұрын

Would not work. There is no clear line where player can be and where can not. Would be way too much scrutiny.

@stevenking9357

4 ай бұрын

@@RoyalMela I disagree, there are two distinctive lines on an icing call. And BTW, most all penalties are subjective.

While this is really strange indeed, they messed up when Boston had possession and they should have whistled. Although... if that happened, Colorado doesn't have the time for that line change and they don't get caught in that penalty too. They messed up...

Nope, never saw that in over 30 years watching hockey.

I appreciate you very Mu…

If you watch the ref wearing number 9 he’s pointing to both benches saying “I got both of them for too many men”

what was that shootout attempt by pasternok?

@kevinallenberg6408

4 ай бұрын

He's already scored two or three times this year on a similar move.

@Redmenace96

4 ай бұрын

I'm with you. He was going up the center and wanted to carry the puck into the goalie and then into the net?? wtf. He got crossed and his brain stopped working. simple.

I'm glad Marchand didn't pull off the Ovi "hat trick"

I was at this game it was insane

I was at this game and the entire sequence was super confusing to witness. It didn't help that there have been audio issue with the refs mics the last couple games at Ball Arena. In this case, the ref was completely muted so we knew it was too many men, but figured it was just on Colorado. When it was on both teams I remarked that I bet that's never happened before in the history of the NHL.

I'm pretty sure the refs this year made slamming each others heads in the door before taking the ice their pre-game ritual.

I'm new to hockey but it confuses me... Why the goal at the beginning was so special?

This happened in our bantam game once

as an official. That should've just been icing, no penalties.

3 on 3 OT is the most exciting aspect of the game. Why not make it for 10 or 12 minutes, then 5 minute intermission if needed then another 10-12 minutes 3 on 3, etc. I suspect only one OT will be needed in 99% of the time.

2006 is the last time this happened (From THG's Video)

Refs aside this would be a great cup series

if you don't see it, how do you call it?

TWO Many Men

nah nah nah! there where still 6 boston players when colorado was called for it, u see the 6th player bottom right when the call the avs. =)

Anybody else saw the very obvious cross check in the end of the 3rd on Boston that wasn’t called but it caused nichuskin to fall and hand touch the puck?

@robertherrmann4823

4 ай бұрын

Hand pass when both hands are still wrapped around the stick?

Do any of you beauties know why val doesn't do interviews? I have noticed it a lot this year watching the avs.

@squeejus1767

4 ай бұрын

I think he's just shy or doesn't speak proficient english but I could be way wrong, I'm pretty sure someone was able to interview him a little bit at the beginning of the year

@cal8362

4 ай бұрын

He’s not a good English speaker. I seen his last on ice interview, he just wished everyone a happy new year and skated off

@BracownReclidobo

4 ай бұрын

@@cal8362 I saw that too but wasn't sure bc his English "sounded" fine.

Me being a huge bruins fan I don’t really like how he mispronounced Marchand which sounds like Marshawn and I also don’t like how he said PAHsta it’s pasta, but anyways love your vids. Keep it up

Refs messed up

Any loss for the Booins is a good game.

It seems like the referees should have blown the whistle before the Avs got too many players on the ice. The B’s were caught with too many players but the referees delayed the penalty, which is correct. But once the B’s got ‘possession and control’ of the puck, the whistle should have ended the play. That appeared to have been BEFORE the Av’s had too many players on the ice. But it was tough to tell just from the video.

@dalegarraway9865

4 ай бұрын

The referees didn't notice the Bruins too many men until later. That was why it was not blown down

@cohoanglervancouverwa6755

4 ай бұрын

@@dalegarraway9865 Okay. That makes sense.

Imagine having a functioning power play 😅

I'm guessing embellishment or charging.

Crosscheck and Slash as much as you want, but god forbid somebody falls down or there are too many men. 😂😂 this league is an embarrassment for everyone watching.

@radovanbabjak7903

4 ай бұрын

Not all crosschecks are illegal and some level physicality belongs into the league even if the refs have problem calling it

@garymuhlenforth7251

4 ай бұрын

Don't watch it if you can't understand it or don't like it.

@Esper320

4 ай бұрын

Do your parents know you're this gay and silly?

@user-nw4ln6gr5v

4 ай бұрын

@@MrRapeyou1 Completely unrelated 🤣 But we all know when something is being forced on us ;)

@user-nw4ln6gr5v

4 ай бұрын

@@MrRapeyou1 thats a hilarious name btw

I think the lightness of the blue in Colorado's uniforms is ugly ... but I like it

Avalanche did not have too many players. I’ve been playing hockey for over 20 years, since I was 4y/o, and that’s just how you do a line change. There is always a bit of overlap. If they’re gonna call that, they better call every single line change in history

@DerMef

4 ай бұрын

The reason they called that on the Avs is that the guy who came on immediately played the puck before the player he replaced was off the ice, but yeah, this sort of thing is usually not called, since players that are going off the ice aren't expected to nosedive into the bench to make the change as quick as possible.

@xStretchz

4 ай бұрын

@@DerMef So like Mr dank said,bullshit call lmao

@DerMef

4 ай бұрын

@@xStretchz No, it's correct according to the rules.

@tj_mcdonald21

4 ай бұрын

the bad thing is, is boston played the puck with six guys out there. Even before col had the line change. so it was a missed stoppage and the avs suffered because of it

@anthonyfaccaro7118

4 ай бұрын

​@@tj_mcdonald21Typical avs fan, still whine about the call even after you won the game. Refs suck, we know this, sometimes it benefits you sometimes it doesnt. You won the game let it go.

usually the 'too many' also have to be in the play... colorado definitely did not have that... Bruins had too many for an obscene amount of time..

I think this year more than any we are seeing some pretty bad calls. This is harmless and funny but the state of reffing seems to be in bad shape. Never seen an offsetting too many men call before lol.

I just hate 3 on 3 and shoot outs completely takes away from the excitement of games. The best team on the ice does always win. I really wish these would go away make a team sport back to team sport.

Soooo, did they have 5 on the ice after they sent 1 to the fridge for each team? 🤣

I'm not gonna lie, I'm surprised so many Boston fans were in Colorado. It's one thing to see a bunch of their fans in eastern conference cities (not any less annoying but I digress) but Colorado is pretty far from Boston. That city must suck the big one to live in with all the people liking their teams moving away from there.

Too many men on the ice. The Avs go to play. I surprised it wasn't 7 men on the ice

"March-ie"? Don't you mean Marsh-ie?

Come to the UK mate. The Refs here make new shit up every week!

the officiating in the league is a joke and has been for years

@TCHrulez

4 ай бұрын

Its been awful officiating in all the pro leagues (NHL, NBA, MLB and NFL) for years

@SticksWithPicks

4 ай бұрын

​@@TCHrulezadd pro racing and pro soccer to that, too. A sports world outside of North America exists and bad officiating is a global issue 😅

@Waffle_stomp

4 ай бұрын

@@SticksWithPicks There are sport outside of north america????? I never knew that wow so cool!!!!!!!

@krakenspectacor

4 ай бұрын

The fans are the joke for believing this but here we are. Do refs miss things? Yep from time to time. Is it as bad as everyone who cries about it claims? Nowhere near

@TCHrulez

4 ай бұрын

@@SticksWithPicks I didn't mention other leagues because I don't know them, their spot and don't care but yes, I could only imagine how bad the officiating is for a sport that has players overexaggerating and flailing around on the field in agony to get penalties called on the opposing team and then standing up and continuing to play

Its very simple. The bruins aren't allowed to be on the pp. The bruins are also getting penalties for doing legal things. They got a penalty for delay of game when the opposing player very clearly deflected it.

The refs have been absolutely terrible this season and seems like each season it gets worse and worse!!?? It's absolutely absurd how terrible they've been!!? There's 0 consistency at all!!?? They'll let blatant penalties go that r done right in front of them but then they'll call the weakest shit ever especially if it's a hooking or holding call!!? Some of the ridiculous shit they call as hooking is just unbelievable!? They're calling guys for hooking just cuz he was reaching to try to knock puck off guys stick and at some point in the process the guys stick shaft happens to nick other guys glove and they call hooking!!? They see the smallest bit of stick to glove contact and they'll call hooking even when there was 0 hooking happening at all and the guys stick isn't up in the guys hands it just touched the backhand part of his glove!!? They really need to go back to school on what is and isn't hooking and holding and stuff like that!? With holding too they'll call a guy for holding but all guys doing is putting his free hand on other guys back for a second while they're pushing and shoving in a scrum along the boards!? I've seen them call a few guys for that and guy didn't even hold guy at all!? And other times they've called guys for holding,when there was no hold, just cuz they happened to have one hand off their stick and r trying to fend off (kinda stiff arm) guy going at him!? Some of the shit they've called is just complete shit!!? And there's times where a penalty will get called but it's not the ref who was right there with best view of play that calls it it's the ref that's furthest away from play and couldn't have seen what really happened and they'll let it stand for some dumb reason!? You'd think in situations like that the ref who was right there and saw what happened and didn't see anything worthy of a penalty would get other refs together and say "hey no there's no penalty on play cuz I was right there and saw it...and whoever called it obviously was mistaken!" But instead for some dumbass reason the ref who was right there and saw everything and knows there was no penalty on play just doesn't say anything and just let's other guy make a call that I'm sure he knows is completely wrong!!? It's ridiculous!!? That's whole reason there's 4 officials out on ice so they can get together and talk over anything questionable and get call right!!? It's absolutely fucking ridiculous that we're still having to deal with shitty officiating effecting the outcomes of games and sometimes very important games at that!!? We have the technology and video replay and stuff so there should be no reason to have to be living with terrible wrong calls, sometimes they even know call was wrong but they still uphold the call!? It's ridiculous and there's no reason y we shouldn't be able to make sure the right calls r made!!? I say they need to add 1-2 more officials,but not on the ice!? I think they should add 1-2 officials and have them up top, like up near where broadcasters sit, and give them access to replay and have it so they can radio down to officials on ice. And those 1-2 officials up top can kinda do same kinda thing that the video coaches that each team has does!? That way when games going on they can be watching too and if anything questionable happens they can quickly look at replay and radio down the correct call for officials on ice to make!? And like anytime there's a penalty called the guys up top could quickly look at replay and just double check that the correct call was made that way if ref on ice that made call was mistaken, like say a high stick was called but guys up top looked at it real quick and saw that it was guys own stick or his teammates stick that actually hit him!? Then they could inform refs on ice and they could correct the call!!?? It wouldn't really add that much time to games and personally I wouldn't care if it made games an hour longer as long as they were getting the calls right and calling a fair game and we weren't having terrible wrong calls effecting outcomes of games I could care less really!!? Who cares if it ads a lil more time to games really!? Hockey games would still be faster and WAY more exciting than Football is and Football is like the biggest sport with tons of fans!? Football games r really long and boring with lots of nonsense with nothing happening but plenty of people still religiously watch it!!?? So doing something that may or may not add a tiny bit of time to hockey games but will definitely result in the correct calls being made and will make it so games don't end up being decided by wrong calls then id be all for it!!?

Every team is trying to get 1 on or over on their opponents,

Great video apart from the Nikki Haley ad in the beginning

Go Bs

AVs beat the fix

Lol Refs not knowing how to do their jobs, and making calls to benefit the Bruins. Typical day in the NHL.

Shouldn't that be "offsetting fouls"? GG Av's. Come on B's...do better!

Officials definitely waited too late for the initial TMM call on Boston. Colorado should have a had a power play. It was 6 players for Boston for far too long... way before the ever-so-close TMM on Colorado.

2006 or 2008

1.2K likes 78,829 views posted 10 hoiurs ago thanks you did awesome i am a subscriber but will return more offen well done I am from Boston I feel this is our year

Bro, why aren't you covering the most exciting team this year? The Canucks. Highest scoring team and fun to watch. Like you are sleeping on them.

@nextmanupNMU

4 ай бұрын

I’ve absolutely covered them! kzread.info/dash/bejne/nmZ7y8Ojo7qYaaQ.html , kzread.info/dash/bejne/nXuIp6d7c9vUirw.html , kzread.info/dash/bejne/douY3JWPn5DPhLA.html . But I can also only get to so much as a one man team. Specifically for the Canucks, after finding @nuckingaround, I have left some stuff related to the Canucks simply because his channel is great and he does a good job covering the team. I'm sure I'll have more Canucks content coming down the road though as well. Thanks for watching!

@BaronBoar

4 ай бұрын

@@nextmanupNMU ok. I will have to check his channel. I watch your channel though, I like your coverage.

@nextmanupNMU

4 ай бұрын

I really do appreciate that, thank you!

I understand that there were too many men for Colorado, but they both were within the 10ft rule for changes. How is that too many if the players were 10ft to the bench and neither one was involved in the play?????

@Asymmetrical-Saggin

4 ай бұрын

Its 5 ft not 10

@asphotographics

4 ай бұрын

5 foot rule only applies if neither leaving or entering player is in the play. If either player touches the puck or makes a hit while the other has skates on the ice then it’s too many men. And in this case the Colorado player entering the ice did play the puck.

Way too many ads. It's much to over stimulation causing no attention to any of it, besides it being annoying. Ads on the ice, boards, helmet and jersey.

Not that hard. Delayed penalty for too many men against Boston. But then Colorado committed their too many men while in possession of the puck so play is blown dead and offsetting minors are called.

what a waste of a shootout attempt from pasta

Go avs

Bad refereeing doesn't get enough attention

@davidgray3294

4 ай бұрын

It gets hushed or the players get fined same is happening in other sports NFL - they have made the game so soft and things we made fun of before when European players would keep touching their chin or lip looking for evidence of blood just to get a penalty. They have tried to speed the game up but have made it worse

@mr.e8432

4 ай бұрын

Nah, bad officiating is all the average fan talks about. Literally every game.

@dantran9962

4 ай бұрын

@@mr.e8432I think they mean the league itself doesn’t give it attention.

@JosephTMeiroseIV

4 ай бұрын

or enough accountability! Look at MLB and balls and strikes.