I Have Been Laying Tiles For 30 Years, But Never Seen Such Technique
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Tile joints get dirty, broken and worn over time. For this reason, a dirty and old tile joint appearance occurs. Therefore, it is important to know how to make a tile joint and how to renew a tile joint. If your tile joints in your home are now dirty and worn, you can learn how to renew and re-make tile joints by watching this video.
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Anyone who has tiled for 35 years would know this is absolutely the wrong way to do grout. What a colossal waste of time.
Во первых технология давно известна, только зачищать швы болгаркой это куча сколов, есть специальный инструмент. Во вторых шарик у нас уже лет как 5 заменили зажигалкой cricket там танец овальный и идеально подходит под мелкие швы, в 3-х лунка которая получается от шарика или любого другого инструмента смотрится красиво на стенах, но вот на полу это очень большой недостаток т.к. там скапливается грязь и ее от туда очень неудобна вычищать, для пола только прямые швы и никаких ямок😊
@user-ve1yq5xz8b
11 ай бұрын
Особенно, когда того пола 200м2. и плитка кривая.
@_DonJoe_
6 ай бұрын
Всё верно
@MelnikovValentin
6 ай бұрын
Да ещё и белая затирка на пол как-то не очень подходит - вся грязь будет видна на ней + думаю со временем белизна уйдет по той же причине. А вообще, как по мне, лучше один раз запариться с эпоксидной затиркой и забыть о межплиточных швах.
@_parfume_bar
6 ай бұрын
@@MelnikovValentinкрасава, все по делу
@sergeyvikylin5338
6 ай бұрын
Зажигалку надо взять на заметку, все время использовал кусок уличного UTP для формирования швов.
you laid tiles for 30 years and you are still skilled like one that laid tiles for 2 weeks
@domo8676
3 ай бұрын
Could have used toothpaste (LOL).
@sunriseboy4837
2 ай бұрын
OK, Luigi, do a video for us and show us how good you are. Frankly, IMO, you comment was not necessary, and it was just insulting. A lot us guys here are very grateful to see this demo.
@luigicirelli2583
2 ай бұрын
@@sunriseboy4837 all I am reading is "you hurt me, you insulted me, others said nice things about this video and they are grateful, your comment is superfluous" easy does it! the clickbait title had to be redimensioned and I took on that task
@sunriseboy4837
2 ай бұрын
@@luigicirelli2583 Better English would have been helpful.
@luigicirelli2583
2 ай бұрын
@@sunriseboy4837 you are not making any sense
Ficou bonito o acabamento. Vou testar em casa. Obrigado.
Tem usar a inteligência para facilitar a mão de obra mesmo, parabéns pela idéia. 👍🏼 Deus abençoe
Time you do the whole floor I'll be finished at home having my dinner. Can't believe just watched it. 😭😭
@karlmccarthy4622
11 ай бұрын
😂
@LarabaLakhdar-wh9lh
11 ай бұрын
Ce monsieur il a du temps pour cela c tres long mon Frere comment tu trouve ton dos le soir
Extraordinaire, cette précision dans le geste et l'agilité du doigt.magnifique.
A buddy of mine use to let the grout set up for a little bit so it was just a little moist, not wet, then take the end of a broom handle or any wooden handle and run it down the grout line the same as this.
Gostei muito das dicas!
Seems awfully risky cutting the seams like that, risking making holes in the water barrier beneath the tiles.
Aaaaaaaa....!!!!!! Perfectooo... !!! Gracias !!! Estaré aplicando esto MAESTRO!!! Tengo guardadas bolillas de acero, justo!
Genera ideas. Gracias por su vídeo. Es didáctico y motivador. Le envío cordiales saludos desde México.
Good technique and quite easy for filling up the joints between the tiles after cleaning up the old joists which have become dirty and weak as well.white cement slurry is deliberately chosen to make the video clip more clear to understand the workmanship which is absolutely perfect. Cutter is used to clear the old joints of cement quickly. Slight chipping of corners is covered with cement slurry after drying and rather joints are more tough as the corners are free of glaze and have become rough.
@vivafranconia7990
4 ай бұрын
Scheiß Fliesen. Ich hasse diese Dinger. Im Frühjahr werde ich sie aus der Küche entfernen.
@UndeadSlayer35
4 ай бұрын
This is a realistic view of what was done. Excellent comment!
Merece vários likes sem conversa fiada. Mostrando na prática como recuperar um rejunte deixar o piso novo parabéns.
Thank you well done. In many part of the world, they use white cement and mix it with water until it is watery. They pour it, let it dry and clean.
Wow that takes a steady hand!
Muy bien felicitaciones por su excelente trabajo.
Una tecnica da principianti da professionista da oltre 55 anni ancora super attivo
@user-ik7re4cy7r
2 ай бұрын
Excelenye
Certamente isso deve ser algo que fica perfeito. Gostei.
Excelente, se agradece, sencillo y práctico.
A grout blade on an oscillating saw also works well to remove grout and is easier to control the depth and cut than an angle grinder.
@arnoflyOnWeb
11 ай бұрын
But angle grinder is very faster (and harder to do a good job). I tried both methods.
@Fredman2410
11 ай бұрын
I hope they don't have undertile heating! That deep plunge near the start would have destroyed it.
@JT_70
11 ай бұрын
@@arnoflyOnWeb I tried an angle grinder also. It can be faster but I would accidentally nick the side of a cross tile (“T”) from time to time and it’s harder to control the depth of cut.
@alphasigmasezon8597
11 ай бұрын
Aqui no Brasil temos a Saw Marble from Makita
@averteddisasterbarely2339
11 ай бұрын
I bet you learning to do tile all on your own!
Θεός..Μπράβο σου..😉👏👏👏👏
Just now learning about this. I learned this in the 1970s using a circular saw.
You have to be very careful not to damage the tiles with the angle grinder. The step with the ball you can leave out. No professional does that because you go over the joints with the rubber plate and after a little drying you come back with a sponge - as shown. But you have to work diagonal over the joints NOT along the joints. This way you'll get the beautiful shape of the joints automatically. Imagine all the professionals sit there and play with a ball while making hundreds of square metres of tile laying - five head 😂
@christianlemay7494
8 ай бұрын
😅
@user-ni2lp1ky8d
8 ай бұрын
Для профессионалов эта идея наверное не подходит, но я в восторге от этой идеи! Метлах на кухне уже расшатался. Клей высох. Мастер так и сказал: Снимать и снова укладывать. А это сколько проблем! Очистка и прочее. После этого видео я сама справлюсь. Благодарю Автора этого видео!
@sedatkayalar2689
8 ай бұрын
Renovator is better for this work ..
@sedatkayalar2689
8 ай бұрын
I always use renovator
@pmginy
7 ай бұрын
Not to mention the ball leaves a con cave grout joint which will fill up with dirt. Not sure why he didn’t try to match the grout color.
Gostei muito da sua explicação, sou mulher, mas as vezes faço alguma coisa de pedreiro, aprendi o básico pq meu pai era esse profissional. Também pq posso fazer, não precisar pagar ou ficar esperando alguém fazer. Também fazer trabalhos artesanais como vasos de cimento, fontes, aquário etc. Obrigada por passar sua sabedoria
@dalilribeyre4709
11 ай бұрын
👍👏
@user-yr9et2fe7o
8 ай бұрын
انت متزوجه
What’s most impressive is this guys is recording himself doing this
Bizarrely Satisfying & Great Vid!
Always use knee pads when kneeling on a hard floor. (I learnt that the hard way). Thanks for sharing !
@chunkymonkey55555
Жыл бұрын
What was so special about using the ball bearing?
@Esuper1
Жыл бұрын
@@chunkymonkey55555 Try using a basketball, it doesn't work as well.
@chunkymonkey55555
Жыл бұрын
@@Esuper1 Lol I do not know what I did to offend you into saying that Sir,
@axetu
11 ай бұрын
@@chunkymonkey55555the ball bearing just set the grout at the desired height relative to the tile edges
@catclark9488
11 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same. It looks like he has knee pads on but he's not using them to protect his knees. Strange.
I am a Jack of all trades and master of only a couple, but I must say this video was excellent. When you plan out a video of instruction this well, no words are needed. Well done sir!
@Alessandro-ju4ik
8 ай бұрын
Perché nn fa vedere la stuccatura da vicino?? Così si noteranno le scheggiature delle piastrelle dovute al flex col disco diamantato. Esisto soluzioni meno invasive.
@bernardduchez9096
5 ай бұрын
😊😊
@vanrepchinsky313
3 ай бұрын
This is junk there is way too much water in the grout therefore there is no strength in the grout. DONT DO THIS
@MrDakidddd
2 ай бұрын
I agree starting off in the concrete trade this looked way to watery, cement should not flow so easily.@@vanrepchinsky313
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Caramba! cada dia eu aprendo alguma coisa diferente. Essa do aspirador de pó, a colocação do rejunte, o uso da esfera para dar acabamento. Genial viu! Precisava gravar isso pra não esquecer. Obrigado amigo!
@dicasdeconstrucaoereformas3170
11 ай бұрын
Pra mim é simples, mas pra quem ñ é da área se impressiona
@deebodigital
6 ай бұрын
😂😂
@JorgeViana-px3ut
4 ай бұрын
Pega aí uma residência de +ou- uns 50m² pra substituir o rejunte, use a esmerilhadeira com uma só mão, aspirador na outra e, claro "confortavelmente" de joelhos! 😂
@JorgeViana-px3ut
4 ай бұрын
@@dicasdeconstrucaoereformas3170Faço com um cavaco de chinelo velho, rápido e perfeito! Kkkkk
@rogerbritus9378
4 ай бұрын
Sugiro que desaprenda tudo o que viu nesse video, exceto o uso do aspirador para limpeza (mas SEM a serra de diamante).
Trabalho limpo. Parabéns.
Nice skill with that trowel, looks great. Is that sanded grout?
@davidcurtis5398
7 ай бұрын
No dummy, it was white cement. And why white cement and not grout?????
the ball bearing technique is new to me but brilliant...will add that to my grouting process.
@smerchly
8 ай бұрын
wouldn't a spoon do the same thing as a ball bearing ?
@grumpyolddude439
2 ай бұрын
@@smerchly spoon, broom handle, bic pen cap...
@smerchly
2 ай бұрын
@@grumpyolddude439 The bricks behind my fireplace was done by my fingers , no tools required . That was 35 years ago and still looking great .
У него просто был шарик красивый, и он решил его показать всем.
@krasnonosov51
Жыл бұрын
У меня тоже был, нужно поискать.
@botapetkov1329
Жыл бұрын
@@krasnonosov51 а ты знаешь какое значение слова на грузинском твой ник ( чатланин?)что-то вроде проститут или точнее пидор. 😁. Так что подумай.чатлак звучит правильно.
@user-ew2hf7ev1k
Жыл бұрын
У меня было два, но один сразу закотится куда-то, а второй сломался...
@krasnonosov51
Жыл бұрын
@@user-ew2hf7ev1k Вы, наверно, на него наступили. Он вполне мог продавиться внутрь подошвы... Когда обувь износится поищите его шилом в маленьких отверстиях, он обязательно выкатится, если не запропастился куда ни буль...
@user-bd5tn5hj4b
2 ай бұрын
утром на подушке шарик нашёл....
Use a parte sem ponta de um lápis cilíndrico grosso que fica ótimo.
Estupendo!!👍🏼
That's a very good trick to apply tile grout!!! It really works!!! 👍
@wotviewer
8 ай бұрын
it may work, but grout is not intended to be that runny.
@davidcurtis5398
7 ай бұрын
Was not grout.
@deanspencer13
2 ай бұрын
When i do our tiles ...it's a problem with the spacers...that are all still in ..would it be best to try and scrape them out
Para 4 baldosas puede ser, pero si es una superficie mas grande lo dudo y ademas del riesgo que hay si se desvía la amoladora dañando la pieza
It's a lot of work man I just found epoxy and re- colored my groutand spend 10 years and last and it looks beautiful and it doesn't stain because it truly truly seals
Интересная техника! 👍
Super Arbeit. Wir sind nach dem Tod meiner Mutter in mein Elternhaus eingezogen. Im Gäste WC waren die Fugen zwischen den weißen Bodenfliesen ursprünglich lichtgrau. Da ihre Putzfrau scheinbar mehr zu ihrer Unterhaltung einmal wöchentlich erschien, wurden die Fugen allmählich unansehnlich schwarz. Ich dachte zunächst auch an deren Erneuerung, habe mir aber dann ein Herz genommen und bin die Sache mit Kunststoffbürste und Scheuermilch angegangen. Jetzt strahlen die Fugen wieder in schönem Lichtgrau. Trotzdem ein tolles hilfreiches Video.
@saschameier1984
2 ай бұрын
Säuregel zum absäuern von Betonflächen und eine Zahnbürste und etwas Wasser und die Fugen strahlen wieder wie am ersten Tag !!! 👌
Muy chingon tu trabajo pero sobre todo muy limpio
there is coloring for the grout. No need to redo the grout
i love all your tricks. Do you have a video or can you make a video of easier methods in removing paint with sand in it? i moved into a house that has it through the whole house. when i was a kid i remember it being tedious
@matginmon
11 ай бұрын
If your paint is water based the best solution is to use steam, like to remove wall paper.
Very good thanks sharing
30 лет класть плитку и не набраться опыта.. вы это имели ввиду?
@igor32645
Жыл бұрын
30 лет почти в пустую...
@ALEX-yc9zz
19 күн бұрын
Да врёт он, блядь буду. Тут и дураку понятно для чего он папиздел название ролика, чтобы срубить побольше просмотров 😏
Шов пропилен глубоко, а новый цемент пролит лишь по поверхности, а не на всю глубину, что приведёт к провалам после эксплуатации. Шарик сформировал паз, а затем полутёрком его снова испохабили. В общем, халтура, а не работа.
@G.A.V.136
Жыл бұрын
Он сделал уплотнение шва. Так что все по уму
@QR-kod_Danetot
Жыл бұрын
@@G.A.V.136 Это с ваших позиций. А по мне ХАЛТУРА, а не уплотнение.
@user-dt8dx6do7t
Жыл бұрын
@@G.A.V.136 чистить швы болгаркой большого ( ума) человек
@ya-Master
11 ай бұрын
@@G.A.V.136 Он просто запилил видос, ради просмотров. Где, и в какой инструкции, по применению затирки, вы увидели чтобы её заливали как воду?
Bravo impeccable !!
تمام ممتاز جدا .طريقه رائعه للترميم .شكرا جزيلا
@luigicirelli2583
2 ай бұрын
what?!
Don't want to be negative, but I spent most of my working life in the flooring business and all of my crews used the grinder/vacuum combo, and the ball bearing thing was cute but the same concept as the gadgets they sell for smoothing out caulk. I'm not sure what you thought was the new technique? Regardless, well made video and it may help out some diyer or homeowner, assuming they are experienced with using a grinder freestyle like that. You can make a mess of the tile if not. But again nicely done.
@kalleklp7291
11 ай бұрын
My thoughts too. ;) If one is not careful that diamond disc will chip the enamel on the tile
Grout is not to be mixed at that consistency. It will likely crack or have pin holes. Also i don’t believe it would bond nearly as good as traditional method of pressing grout into the joints and wiping with a rung out sponge. But looks like a great way to shallow the grout joints tho 😂
@reloadrefine
11 ай бұрын
Not to mention time consumption.. I bout fell asleep watching the video😂😂
@grrinc
7 ай бұрын
Agreed. There is no guarantee that the grout actually ran deep into the gaps. Personally, I push grout in deep as I go, scooping off access, and working in, continuously.
Wonderful! At my point of view, instead of using the steel ball, I use a piece of white cloth to fix the line. With this, the work will be faster and cleaner. Thanks so much for your clip.
Me encantó!!
Looks nice, but adding too much water to grout weakens the mix (similar to concrete) and won't last too long, unfortunately. Would like to see what that floor looks like a few months later.
@UZBEKISTAN-79
11 ай бұрын
На верно бухтел плитка и пополнили под плитку
@dannythorpe1425
11 ай бұрын
who told you too much water weakens concrete? unless you put 1gram on concrete in a 1000 litres on water lol, concrete can, and does, set (completely) whilst under water, and is still extremely strong, so how much is too much water if it can set under water?
@williamsnyder1205
11 ай бұрын
I'm with you, grout to loose, I've never had to use ball-bearings on any of my grout joints, just trowel then wash, I don't get it?? 35yrs in the tile trade
@russs3001
11 ай бұрын
@@dannythorpe1425 When excess water creates greater spaces between aggregate materials, the voids fill with air after the moisture evaporates. The resulting inadequate compaction reduces the concrete's strength. Concrete with trapped air levels as little as 10 percent experiences reductions in strength of up to 40 percent.
@dannythorpe1425
11 ай бұрын
@Russ S that's not from too much water, that's from adding aggregate. Concrete will fully set underwater. Also adding aggregate and preparing the job properly won't have that effect. If the aggregate has no where to move the water won't displace it. Aggregate is not concrete, water doesn't weaken concrete.
The grout mix is too loose .It needs to be tighter because just like concrete mix ,when the mix is too loose ,,then the finished grout will be weak.That means it will more than likely crack and then pop out of the joints especially if there is any deflection in your floor. You have to stiffen the floor with 3/4 plywood sub floor and stiffen grout mixture by not adding too much water. You should never be able to "pour" your grout. Much too loose.
@treatseaweed
6 ай бұрын
Epoxy grout is recommended for stain resistant strong grout
Perfeito.
Muy buena esa técnica con mucha paciencia felicidades, lástima q ya no hay colocadores con tanta dedicación solo quieren acabar y cobrar y vámonos
Muito bom! Quero ver essa técnica funcionar com rejunte acrílico, epóxi! (De qualquer forma! Parabéns 👏)
@lazielopes293
Жыл бұрын
E com junta 1,5 mm.
@franciscoroza
11 ай бұрын
Cada instalação tem sua técnica.
@brunodesouzadutra5278
11 ай бұрын
@@lazielopes293 disco de cortar ferro é sucesso
Жду ролик с названием "Путаны держат это в секрете! Удивило даже 60 летнюю Снежанну" 🖒😁 в остальном спасибо - дельные вещи показываешь
@serggorovets9019
Жыл бұрын
Занимаюсь укладкой плитки,почти те же 30 лет,ролик прокоментирую так:когда собаке делать нехрен,она яйца лижет.
@Agent_Smith777
Жыл бұрын
@@serggorovets9019 Коту.
@huevlozkin
Жыл бұрын
@@Agent_Smith777 Но не отгрызает.
@user-zd2em4tt3o
Жыл бұрын
@@Agent_Smith777 Собака коту?
@Agent_Smith777
Жыл бұрын
@@user-zd2em4tt3o Всякое бывает. 🤣
Çok güzel olmuş ellerine emeklerine sağlık 🍀 🇹🇷
Браво Молодець!!!
Já faço essa mesma técnica com cabo de vassoura, e fica top.
@jacqsontubepv4226
11 ай бұрын
ELE E BULITAÇO VC E CABAÇO.KKKKKKKKKK
- что делаешь? - шары катаю)
Your smart guys thanks for showing
I can see this technique used to caulk the seams on teak boat decks. The polysulfide caulking is very difficult to handle and everyone wants a pretty seam.
Es evidente que tiene un muy buen pulso. No creo que astille baldosas ¿Ven como se hunde el disco de corte? Creo que ocurre porque el suelo de apoyo de la baldosa es demasiado débil en algunas partes. El disco se hunde sin que se ejerza una gran presión. Idea: un accesorio unido a al cuerpo de la herramienta y que reemplace a la mano que sostiene la manguera permitiría agarrar la cortadora con ambas manos. Ganaría mayor seguridad para evitar accidentes y mayor firmeza para cortar y evitar posibles rayones en las baldosas.
Още един откривател на топлата вода ! Искам да го видя на 150 /200м2 с тая сачма ...
Une bille d'acier d'accord, mais quel diamètre la bille et pour quel largeur de joints . Merci.
Nice one I've try it many times especially when you are inside of a house that is finished , the diamond disc you should put in other way ...
Бред какой то. Теперь покажи как обои лобзиком клеить, или шпаклевать ведром
you must have a steady hand or chips the tile
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Жыл бұрын
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Qué bien 👍 perfecto 👍
Sensacional !!!
Right after the grout is se and dry between the tiles, why aren't the tiles and grout both sealed against discoloration using some kind of polyurethane like we do for wooden floors? I don't wanna spend significant time cleaning when not necessary. I'd rather leave the grout a dark color and make future stains a part of them permanently (as not to draw attention to them.)
Risky using a cutting or grinding wheel, the slightest touch on the edge of the tiles could chip the tile edges and whilst pouring the grout in might look good initially I would expect the excess water to cause cracking and shrinkage as well as weak/soft grouting, finally I don't get the point of the bearing if you're going to run over it again after whilst still wet.
It takes a skilled hand to take a chance like that with a grinder. I’ve done this before with a lot of success, but one slip and the floor is done for make sure there’s a spare tile if you decide to use this method. On a different note, what kind of grout float is that?
I’ve been tiling for over 26 years and this is absolutely something straight out of a comic book ..!!!
Bonjour, très bonne technique. Une autre technique que j'utilise pour tout les joints silicone ou autre c'est d'utiliser l'arrière de la cartouche de silicone pour retirer le surplus. Ça fait un joint parfait.
Для расшивки швов ушм лучше использовать отрезной круг по металу.Так безопаснее для плитки.
Не укладываю плитку 30 лет, но слышал ещё лет 20 назад, что так же плиточники проходили закруглённым торцом зажигалки по швам. Смысл тот же, выходит так же.
Бомба!!! Очень круто!!! Спасибо!!!
В следующем видео ждём засекреченную технологию великих рукож.. пов вселенной, как можно сделать 5ти минутную работу за 24 часа! 🤔 Действительно - уникальные технологии))
@diy1
Жыл бұрын
тем не менее это видео 2 ляма)
Didn't that wheel say "wet cutting only"? Can we assume that was nonsanded grout? Doesn't mixing grout that thin compromise its strength and durability?
@tof3275
Жыл бұрын
Yes, that was my understanding, the grout is there as a bonding and sealing of the joints. As an experiment - - I would like to see a "plan view" showing two tiles and the now-supposed protection
@pavelzvacek5832
Жыл бұрын
Chtěl bych vidět jak by neporušil Tuo rozbuškou hrany té dlažby,cha,cha
@beanieweenie9543
Жыл бұрын
That wasn’t even grout he was using it was white cement.
@laserall
Жыл бұрын
It wasnt grout, it was white cement.
Great, learnt, thanks sharing.
❤Bardzo ciekawy rodzaj wykonywania takich prac .
ДА ОН СМЕЁТСЯ НАД НАМИ! Быстрое движении камеры (и предметов) создаёт настроение непринуждённости. Медленное - наоборот напрягает, кажется, что сейчас что-то вот-вот может произойти. Но ничего не происходит...
Vc limpou com a esponja azul depois de secar, certo?
Brilliant 👏 👏
белая затирка на полу, нет слов...
Здравствуйте дорогой, это хорошое дело , но мне кажется лутше шприцем отлично получится , желаю вам удачи. Черкесс с Кавказа.
@krasnonosov51
Жыл бұрын
Если шприца нет, я пользуюсь целофановым кульком, как кулинары выдавливают крема на торты.
good job sir👍
we tried it but the ball bearing leaves behind metal that rusts later so doesn't work so good with white grout.
Ez egy faszsàg,aki így szeretne fugàzni ,javîtani hàt sok sikert hozzà😊😊
This would be harder to do with the new tile ready pans and kerdi foam pans. You would have cut the water proofing barrier and the pan would then leak.
@billytheman
11 ай бұрын
This repair was not a shower floor, but watered down cementious grout will not cure properly.
Not gonna lie, that's too much work for me lol. I'd just paint the cracks black or brown.
Esto lo recomienda para cuando están flojas las piezas de cerámica ? No es mejor quitarlas y volver a colocarlas ?
I don't get why you have to furrow the grout anyway. That just gives a place for the dirt and grime to go and build up. Why not have the grout level with the top of the tile. So much easier to keep clean. Someone please explain the need to furrow the grout.
@Macomac
Жыл бұрын
I am a builder and I can say there is absolutely no reason to do so, in fact it creates a void for water to sit in only to slowly disperse to the substrate in wet areas, it’s also a great to create lipping if the tiles are slightly out of level as laid.
@JanusDillermand
11 ай бұрын
you must be a builder from spain ,thailand, or usa, who dont know, that the furrow have to be in level with the tile edge, and the tile edge are bent, slightly down. THIS is the right way to do it. if you lay the furrow over the edge, which is glazed, it will loosen over time.
УКАЗЫВАЙТЕ пожалуйста какие материалы были истользованы! Спасибо.
@user-gd2qc6ib5v
Жыл бұрын
А что не видно?
@user-zd2em4tt3o
Жыл бұрын
@@user-gd2qc6ib5v Вижу сметану! 😁
@user-gd2qc6ib5v
Жыл бұрын
@@user-zd2em4tt3o смент три кулька написано было)))