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@GameTimeWhy

Жыл бұрын

You should talk about repairability in another video.

@Sakthivel2542

Жыл бұрын

Great Video

@cake8480

Жыл бұрын

linus short

@catlee8064

Жыл бұрын

Does the CPU explode on this aswell ?

@DaveVoyles

Жыл бұрын

ROG Ally pre-order link does not work

Whoever came up with the idea to have the pulsing white circle appear on your graphs so people can more quickly and easily reference the metrics you are referring to deserves a raise. It made viewing your graphs and data pages SO MUCH BETTER!

@Foxy_AR

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, I always struggle to find the right stat

@GFBunnyHopER

Жыл бұрын

They should change color to something more contrasty like red, in few cases white color dot was hard to see or find

@SeeOlEe

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I was just about to comment the same 👏🏻

@trafon31

Жыл бұрын

OK editor in disguise we get it you did a good job

@IncorrectYouTubeUser

Жыл бұрын

i see you - smart.. i think they deserve a raise too!

A Steam Deck feature offer overlooked is its console-like sleep function. As a parent with small children, being able to put my game down at a moment’s notice is a must.

@iionas

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you here man, same position and I use this feature absolutely non stop. Two kids and gaming on the go

@gregor2436

Жыл бұрын

The Rog ally don't have such a function? Omg, that's one of the most important functions. Not only for kids.

@edwardecl

Жыл бұрын

A limitation of Windows I suspect. Maybe Microsoft will add the feature, but I doubt it.

@ebouwman034

Жыл бұрын

Not just for kids… any on the go gaming. Does the ROG Ally really not have this?

@EmergencyChannel

Жыл бұрын

That's a Steam OS feature, which the Ally can use.

Glad to see competition in the PC handheld scene. Can't wait to see what Valve is cooking for Steam Deck 2.

@shogakusha

Жыл бұрын

My thought exactly. Plus, the Steam Deck was what convinced me to finally dump Windows all together on my gaming PC. I really have no desire to go back. No, I don't care about the occasional AAA "masterpiece" I miss out on as a result, either. I'm not against the idea of running an updated Steam OS on a portable device from a competitor with better hardware, though, so long as it has a trackpad.

@onlysublime

Жыл бұрын

@@shogakusha a gaming PC without windows... hahahahaha. that's a good one. a linux lurker...

@shogakusha

Жыл бұрын

@onlysublime Bless your heart. Thinking is hard! Don't you worry about it. If you're really curious, you can ask whoever turns the computer on for you.

@Reploidx9

Жыл бұрын

@@onlysublime You must be new to gaming. Linux gamings been about for years. Yeah it used to be really shaky, but it's a lot more stable these days and it's just gonna get better. All while Windows becomes a bloated piece of shit OS (more than it already is)

@onlysublime

Жыл бұрын

@@Reploidx9 and yet the Linux lurker has the need to keep going to windows threads to plead for people to switch

You overlooked a lot of important points: 1- The sleep mode that Valve offers. 2- The Gyroscope. 3- Some games are optimized specifically from the developers of these games to run better on the Steam Deck. 4- The automatic controller layouts for the Steam Deck. 5- The big community behind Steam Deck that offers software optimizations for it. 6- Driver and software optimizations made from Valve developers to overcome some games' issues that are not fixed on Windows. 7- Asus bad reputation when it comes to faulty hardware products and customer support. 8- You can buy Steam Deck for $400 and buy SD card, and it is much cheaper than ROG Ally.

@DenLoken

Жыл бұрын

You forgot they also don’t ship the deck to every country. So these things don’t matter

@ahmedelsayed3133

Жыл бұрын

@@DenLoken You are right.

@henriquecardoso7786

Жыл бұрын

@@DenLoken Neither ROG Ally. I'm on a country that you can't buy both for official ways.

@DenLoken

Жыл бұрын

@@henriquecardoso7786 damn sorry to hear that. Where you from?

@IntergalacticVoid

11 ай бұрын

I don't think specifically optimized games really bring competition against Ally which has better performance anyways.

Every time they talk about these things I start wanting one, but then I remember that whenever go anywhere but home, I'm busy doing things that aren't gaming.

@ookicookiex

Жыл бұрын

I usually find myself wanting to play something while riding a taxi or waiting for a meeting or something. As I don't rll like mobile games in general - SteamDeck is a very good choice for me

@zatramantra8105

Жыл бұрын

@@ookicookiex Until somebody breaks the windows and steals it

@ookicookiex

Жыл бұрын

@@zatramantra8105 Do you know that somebody can break a window in your house and steal your PC too? Robbery is a strange fear to have in excuse of not buying something cool And usually to extra-protect my deck I just have it in my backpack, so it's not a big problem

@Shadowninja1200

Жыл бұрын

@@zatramantra8105 I think I would have bigger problems if some idiot was brave enough to breaks a window of a taxi I’m riding in. The deck or whatever would be the least of my worry. Also weird to use a rare event as a justification for not buying a gaming device. I have used my switch out in public without any worry because i actually know most people aren’t a threat if I don’t bother them and I pay attention to my surroundings. TLDR: go touch grass weirdo.

@damcopter

Жыл бұрын

When I am stuck at my mother in law's house, I can garantee you that a handled PC could save my life 😂

The biggest advantage the ROG Ally has over the Steam Deck for me is that the Ally will be available in my country unlike the Deck.

@SumTheCat

Жыл бұрын

you can get it imported

@udittlamba

Жыл бұрын

@@SumTheCat for a lot of people, that is either too expensive or just not possible.

@kinpact6100

Жыл бұрын

@@SumTheCat Yeah import tax to australia basically doubles the cost for example

@SumTheCat

Жыл бұрын

@@udittlamba well you can do sus stuff

@SumTheCat

Жыл бұрын

@@kinpact6100 sus stuff exists

you know, for a person that used to bus tables just to be able to afford a Gameboy Advance back then, I am genuinely awestruck at how much advance these handhelds are, I was already very impressed with the PSP back then, now to witness this it's mindblowing😮, I don't even mind the nitty gritty ASUS Ally vs Valve Steam Deck, they are both out of this world😅

@tryintomine4363

4 ай бұрын

You are telling the truth!

@notacloutchaser7407

4 ай бұрын

These content creators have to split hairs and stir up drama. Im from the nes / og gameboy era and i feel lucky just to be alive right now to witness this revolution in tech.

@ryansmith2772

3 ай бұрын

Kids will never know the pain of having the little bendy light plugged into the cord transfer power port on the side of the game boy color just so they can play Pokémon under the sheets late at night because you had no other time to play as a kid growing up in the 90s.

@AlexDeivid

2 ай бұрын

When I played Witcher 3 on Switch, already was impressed, remembering when I was playing Zelda LA on my old GB classic in 1994, but now playing games like Witcher 3 and Horizon Zero Dawn on ROG Ally with all settings maxed, it’s like a dream for someone who was born in the 80s.

@ryansmith2772

2 ай бұрын

@@AlexDeivid same, Witcher on switch caused me to buy it for ps5 to take it to a bigger screen and look better. Timeless game. PSP game costs were higher then I expected in hs and cash was hard to come by back then. I worked at a K-mart where I put the PSP on layaway. Times have changed man

I love how you just tell it how it is even when sponsored

No regrets with my steam deck but i'm glad there's competition pushing things along.

@emiliolaurenti5199

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. The size and everything is kinda what I wanted plus love Linux. Will recommend ally and steam deck to those that can’t afford a gaming pc tho

@lelandbatey

Жыл бұрын

It's only half-hearted competition. The $400 SD is unbeatable value and still not remotely touched by this handheld.

@aboveaveragebayleaf9216

Жыл бұрын

I'm curious when valve will make an updated model with a newer apu.

@Conviction454

Жыл бұрын

I think that's the biggest advantage out of anything else mentioned between choosing the steam deck or the ally. This just gives valve and other franchises something to strive towards and improve upon.

@aftdawn

Жыл бұрын

@@lelandbatey especially if you get a 1 or 2 TB SSD for it, king of gaming right there

I love the fact that these handheld devices are becoming a thing. Very convenient form factor.

@jacobmorel775

Жыл бұрын

Yes as someone who grew up using the game boy, DS, psp and ps vita it’s awesome to see handhelds finally make a comeback

@sosukelele

Жыл бұрын

​​@@jacobmorel775 amd apu's look to have a bright future in laptops (due to power/performance efficiency) and are assumed to be amd's solution to low end gpu's (in a few generations). With prospects like that we're bound to see more powerful and efficient handhelds in the coming years.

@classydays43

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if it'll carry over to mobile games. Mobile games have a janky track record and the popularity of these might inspire developers to develop better titles for that.

@egg-roll8968

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobmorel775 Now if only they would bring back user swappable batteries... So much easier to grab said battery than finding an outlet on the go, plus you're geo locked to juice up once you do.

@skyrim2972

Жыл бұрын

Right! I'm just speaking about this I'm happy to see Ally challenging steam deck That push companies to do greater things in their devices

I know they don't often bring up 3rd party stuff when it comes to hardware (unless its the only way to get stuuff working) but i think it deserves a mention that steam deck can install plugins to get aaround some issuues, such as the "searching protonDB to see if your game is compatible" a plugin fixes that by adding the ratiing for the game selected game menu. Also you can improve performance on the steamdeck with tweaks from "CryoUtiliities". Although I know this wiill get lost in the void of comments I think its worth mentioning anyway.

I’m rooting for this and every other handheld to be successful, as competition is great for us consumers, but I’m good with the Steam Deck for now

Not enough for me to ditch my deck, but enough for me to know that the next gen of handhelds will be a must have for me. Time to start saving.

@glebkorniyenko1084

Жыл бұрын

Yep, same here, it's nice to know if I need a handheld upgrade for performance I already have some options

@AdioAurel

Жыл бұрын

Waiting for the V2 or V3. Those will be amazing, especially with Windows, it's a bit too early for gaming handhelds. And I hope they increase the stock storage space.

@doovplayz

Жыл бұрын

Yes, just got my steam deck this Friday and I’m saving for the next one a few years from now

@NL0Gwenster

Жыл бұрын

I`m not switching from my Deck either. I'm hearing way more downsides to owning an Rog Ally than upsides over my SD. For now anything i play on the SD runs just great at 60 fps so i don't need extra performance. The software is so mature on the Deck and even the hardware is better if Linus is constantly running against sticky buttons, that you can't user replace with official third party options (at least for now) -- just hearing Linus talk about his experience with Windows & the armory crate made me cringe. It is good to know however that PC handhelds are now "a thing" and more competition is coming'which is is only better.

@raywilson2047

Жыл бұрын

Keep that deck in good shape lol

Valve already innovates a lot even when they have zero competition, I'm excited to see how this will push them.

@SolidSt8Dj

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, the most likely thing is to get it in more retails stores. SteamOS 3.5 is already bringing massive performance increases, and with minor tweaks such as CryoUtilities or major ones such as undervolting/overclocking, the steam deck handedly beats the Ally in performance for less or the same power draw, even at over 30W (Yes, the steam deck can run at greater than 15W).

@starpencil

Жыл бұрын

The sad thing is it won't. Value tends to release a product then never release an updated version. The index is a prime example.

@nigstar1239

Жыл бұрын

@@starpencil they have developed a new patent Already

@sonichedgehog36

Жыл бұрын

@@SolidSt8Dj "the steam deck handedly beats the Ally in performance for less or the same power draw, even at over 30W (Yes, the steam deck can run at greater than 15W)." Fake news.

@kyellebantog7720

Жыл бұрын

​@@starpencil still hoping for their vr headset deckard to come soon 😅

A year later and the Ally never quite became the hit everyone thought it would.

Its really confusing for me. I live in Australia so the steam deck is much more expensive while the Ally is available. As much as I love the steam deck and its track pads and buttons, the fact the Ally runs on Windows is probably going to buy me over as I'd often have it plugged into a monitor and use it as my desktop.

@fromthebackseat4865

9 күн бұрын

You can run Linux on the steam deck as a desktop too? And it’ll work better because it’s not packed to the brim with Microsoft nonsense.

I'm torn because I like this device, but ever since Asus is being scumbags about their AM5 boards, I don't know if I can back them.

@zapfhahn6130

Жыл бұрын

This is the way.

@zxcaaq

Жыл бұрын

I feel the same way. Won't support Asus anymore.

@nickochioneantony9288

Жыл бұрын

don't feel bad though, ASUS will always be ASUS, and your ROG Ally RMA will have a very complicated and time consuming procedure.

@deuteronomy2749

Жыл бұрын

Big supporter of ASUS here but out of the loop, what happened with the boards?

@Clowninghowler

Жыл бұрын

@@deuteronomy2749 Gamers Nexus has 3 videos regarding this. The last one focuses on Asus' "handling" of the issue.

Based on how ASUS has been acting recently I would be terrified to buy one of these. If you do buy one, you better hope it doesn't break, cause their shady asses are going to be a huge pain to work with.

@mining_steve

Жыл бұрын

Came from Gamers Nexus absolutely agree

@nfleitd

Жыл бұрын

amazing timing for this video lmao

@Rafdao

Жыл бұрын

@@mining_steve Was thinking on preordering but after the recent Asus acting I think I'll wait, I dont think this is going to be out of stock.

@thelith

Жыл бұрын

Yeah better avoid asus, most of their stuff is overpriced anyways and if they don't even honor warranty what's the point. This is also a good way to filter reviewers, any1 still promoting asus after this, better unsubscribe from their channel because they definitly don't care about customers either.

@flamingscar5263

Жыл бұрын

​@Rafacka it probably will be considering only us tech savvy actually know how awful ASUS is, the general public doesn't even know what an x3d CPU is let alone that ASUS motherboards cooked them

Excellent review, definitely appreciate the attention to detail as always!

just preordered it! so excited!!!

Just remember not to enable Expo or the warranty is void. GG ASUS.

@jayhovah5621

Жыл бұрын

Good luck to asus for denying those warranties. They advertise the speeds on the box.

@uncraftbar

Жыл бұрын

Expo? like high performance mode or what?

@azraeihalim

Жыл бұрын

Asus with CS are bad for years now. Nothing has change

@MrGoatsy

Жыл бұрын

If you live in the EU then a company can't void your warranty for this.

@leonro

Жыл бұрын

​@@MrGoatsy I don't think it's allowed in the USA either, but Asus still tries to BS their way into not honouring warranties for their screw ups.

Imagine a Frameworks handheld where you can upgrade the hardware as time goes on.

@handlemonium

Жыл бұрын

Framework 16 first (probably gonna empty my bank account decked-out at $3000) but yeah...........one day! 😁🤞

@dabberdaffy256

Жыл бұрын

Won’t happen then what’s the point of making handhelds after one purchase you’d never need the company again

@dabberdaffy256

Жыл бұрын

I could see separate company’s making parts like motherboards cases screens and stuff so you could build your own like a desktop

@dabberdaffy256

Жыл бұрын

The only components that can be upgraded in a laptop are the RAM, SSD, and battery. Gaming laptops have been around for a long time, but handhelds are far more limited. Until we see laptops with full upgradeability, I don’t think we’ll see it in handhelds.

@andrewk8636

Жыл бұрын

That and an external gpu with its own battery would be amazing

Linus keep the faith! Love ya! I saw your video here and really enjoy my new Rog Ally Extreme. This is a gamer that owned a Timex St Clair way way back.....

I have had no problems whit rog ally. Its been a blessing and it plays everything i put at it smoothly i love it havent used main pc for a while. Recommend it 10/10 im using z1 extreme

The button sticking issue is an actual gamebreaker for me. The fact that they knew about the issue and didnt fix it makes me feel like they wont support this very well... Stuff like that is a huge red flag for me...

@dashcharger24

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't understand why Linus didn't tell more about this. This is awful, more because you cannot replace them, as seen on the Steam Deck.

@benl8962

Жыл бұрын

Probably because they were already in production

@vegeta6555

Жыл бұрын

Not a excuse. It shouldn't of been caught and fixed before production was started.

@damyr55

Жыл бұрын

​@@benl8962 That's literally the problem. It's not an obscure issue, that Linus accidentally discovered. It's one of the main buttons getting stuck, during normal use. There's no way it was news to them, when Linus told them

@AlphaShadowSphere

Жыл бұрын

Your controls matter a lot. Steam partnering with i-fixit was a big selling point that you could replace inputs as they were out.

The best 30 minutes of handheld gameplay you've ever had.

@HarryL2020

Жыл бұрын

More like an hour

@corronchilejano

Жыл бұрын

@@HarryL2020 It's still pretty good. If you're not constantly gaming on max, you can get 2 hours out of it.

@newax_productions2069

Жыл бұрын

@@corronchilejano Handhelds are pointless without a much longer battery life, may as well just play a pc at this point. 1-2 hours is practically useless.

@Calebv319

Жыл бұрын

@@newax_productions2069 its not practically useless to use on a commute to work. 1-2 hours is perfect for that

@minilogoguy18

Жыл бұрын

Sega Game Gear entered the chat.

Thank you for this complete review! ❤

The Steam Deck currently costs "only" ~370€ (cheapest option during summer sale)) and the ROG Ally costs 800€ That is a huge price difference especially since you dont need the most expensive Steam Deck version. In addition, the Steam Deck comes with a case which is a nice bonus. But the most important feature that is missing for the ROG Ally is the quick resume.

@umadkneegrow

7 ай бұрын

​@@SimonWoodburyForgetthey have 2 back button i think

@cyrax3840

3 ай бұрын

But the deck lacks the performance and is limited to certain games

@amassiveclimax

13 күн бұрын

Dude abides.

Asus being less than honest with data with their product seems to be a trend recently. They may say that upclocking their device might void the warranty.

@MrPaxio

Жыл бұрын

bruh, overclocking voids any SOC warranty. its not just asus.

@MrFlayFox

Жыл бұрын

​​@@MrPaxiout updating your bios to fix a critical design flaw does void the warranty at Asus

@Anankin12

Жыл бұрын

​@@MrPaxiogo get Gamers Nexus latest video

@ablet85

Жыл бұрын

Playing devils advocate. Using a 3 game sample to debunk “up to” performance claims is pretty useless as well.

Does Asus randomly invalidate your Ally warranty for updating it to avoid it exploding?

@pulsebear

Жыл бұрын

I hate that we actually have to worry about this on such an expensive brand ASUS. I'm disappointed let's hope EVGA makes amd motherboards now.

@macattack123mattc3

Жыл бұрын

@@pulsebear And maybe EVGA can also make HEDT motherboards, like the new Xeon platform... Not that anybody can afford them, but still it would be nice to have...

@Xtasy604

Жыл бұрын

Did your motherboard explode? Typed from an ROG AZOTH

@unknown-x-1777

Жыл бұрын

LoL I was thinking the same thing. After the corrupt practices it sure is going to be hard to sell a bunch of them. Hopefully nothing catches fire, are you allowed to run XmP or will they void your console 🤔 😂

@NeverlandSystemZor

Жыл бұрын

Right?! As much as I like this machine, I just can't even consider supporting ASUS at all right now...

This thing is insane. It’s crazy the things we can run on laptops and things such as the ally these days while keeping the devices quiet

Literally went to Best Buy and just bought one a couple hours ago. Just got home to charge it. I am extremely excited.

@donniedarko4497

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, definitely didn't sell out immediately

@DanVille1000

11 ай бұрын

@@donniedarko4497 no lie

Just shows you how important software is for the deck punching above its weight. Imagine the Ally’s hardware with Valve’s programming and joysticks/touchpads.

@crackercracker

Жыл бұрын

Nintendo is still performing due to their software not hardware.

@Tkaya460

Жыл бұрын

Touchpads and Valves controller customization software is what makes the SteamDeck such a big win for me from a PC gaming perspective. Games that were never designed for controller controls are made possible by Valve. Even controller based games I find touchpad mouse/trackball controls better than joystick. Fallout 4 for example.

@imrobbinganyonewhotalkstom4881

Жыл бұрын

The watt difference is just Windows vs Linux/Arch. Valve optimizes their hardware directly.

@Steelix371

Жыл бұрын

No touchpad that’s so stupid

@mica7191

Жыл бұрын

Wishing to meet Linus the Genius in person...

Hopefully there is never a problem with the Ally, otherwise Asus will push a new update that voids your warranty.

@Ja3300n

Жыл бұрын

I just love the timing on the ASUS Video from Gamers Nexus. Every second commend is about their shitty behaviour.

@sebastiank686

Жыл бұрын

What?

@oliveprocessor3068

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Valve has been good about their customer support for issues with the steamdeck. I don't think there is enough value here to risk potential problems with Asus right now! I don't want to be out 700+ dollars because they don't think it's important to support their products.

@Snoop_Dugg

Жыл бұрын

@@oliveprocessor3068 valve isn’t amazing either, they refuse to launch in Australia and New Zealand to avoid the customer protections here.

@stitchfinger7678

Жыл бұрын

@@Snoop_Dugg Could maybe be because those are obnoxiously expensive markets to sell literally anything in if you don't live there, and they didn't wanna gamble with this entire new device Unless there's an actual statement that seems like a pretty cynical take

I'm very excited for the future of handheld gaming. Probably still a long way but I will definitely grab the follow up to the steam deck.

i just got mine yesterday. was playing around with it all night. Such a cool device

The Ally LOOKS promising, but with their current track record (see Asus' last debacle with AMD CPUs), the lack of support for repairability, Armoury Crate and overall software (and what that entails), I am not so sure I want to give this one a go. It sure is tempting to go for this instead of a Steam Deck, but given it's an ASUS product, I'm holding my breath to be honest, even if it means having less performance, "worse" audio and a worse screen. At the most, I'll take another look at this one in about 4 months, to see if there have been any actual positive changes.

@dinozorman

Жыл бұрын

haha right, i always try to wait for the second revision of tech. instead of being a product tester.

@Ebalosus

Жыл бұрын

That, and Linus is missing an aspect that the Deck has that the Ally doesn’t: good usability for its OEM operating system. The Deck amongst Linux devices is both really good for both Linux people and for just gamers, while the Ally is good for gamers but not general users; and I strongly feel that’s what’s going to hurt it in sales. Linus and the likes are like _"oh you can use it for all the usual Windowsy stuff as well as gaming, unlike the deck!"_ yet as the likes of the GPD One and Ayaneo show, the only people really purchasing them are either supporters of the respective projects or people whose specialised use-cases the devices serve. The same will apply to the Ally, because for as good as it is at gaming, it comes across as a pretty mediocre Windows portable.

@mikhailkiselev9869

Жыл бұрын

Armoury Crate is just horrendous, sudden gpu spikes killing my fps in games, even severely overspecced ones (e.g. warframe that had ~300 fps when uncapped dropping to 20 from time to time) Uninstalling all of asus stuff helped a lot. Thank God their 200 dollar mouse has internal memory (but even that refused to work on first try)

@dinozorman

Жыл бұрын

@@mikhailkiselev9869 ASUS is terrible with software. firefox with 15 tabs is competing with their RGB motherboard software on CPU usage. both about 4%. and its literally only running the mb RGB and 2 sticks of ram, the fans are on a separate controller.

@TheHammerGuy94

Жыл бұрын

when I opened my phone today Jayz' video was right next to this one. OOF

the community around the steamdeck is a huge point for me, decki plugins made it super cool to customize my deck

@azenyr

Жыл бұрын

One thing that barely anyone talks about. The ecosystem and the insane community behind the Steam Deck. Being Linux and very open, the target audience has a LOT of developers in it that are very skilled and make stuff specifically for Deck as a hobby. Steam Deck has insane software made by the community and will keep getting more and more stuff. Ally is just a random windows device, just like Aya Neo and stuff. Cool but quickly forgotten. Maybe not, because it's Asus, but still

@dot_rich

Жыл бұрын

@@azenyr ive always thought ASUS have made great hardware but crappy software. they have always struggled in that regard. without a community behind them, good hardware isnt enough. i welcome it though

@FunnyBloxYT

Жыл бұрын

​@@azenyr at the end of the day *personally* I prefer the rog ally. I recently developped a liking for rog products aftwr my revent purchase of the ROG6 phone. I do agree there is some software issues burlt at the end of the day it was easy to fix and I was satisfied with the product itself.

@PhysicsGamer

Жыл бұрын

@@dot_rich Yeah, the idea of an ASUS-brand OS is something that really pushes me away from this thing. And who knows if they'll commit to supporting it long-term like Valve has their Steam Deck?

@948320z

Жыл бұрын

This is exactly why I waited 1 year before buying (that, and the 1yr anniversary sale was a happy accident lol); to see if an ecosystem would grow to support it, or if it's just another niche toy that would be useless after 2~3 years due to lack of support and parts. Classic IPODs could still be easily repaired/upgraded today thanks to a large community willing to support third party parts manufacturers ever after TWO decades, which is what I hoped the Steam Deck situation would be down the road. ROG might have better specs, but I won't hold my breath for this. I'd be more than glad to be proven wrong tho, competition is (almost) always good.

Do you think replacing the thermal paste might yield slightly better performance? I didn’t see anything about premium thermal past or Liquid Metal on the ROG listing. Knowing ROG they are usually proud of there cooling solution or thermal paste choice.

Hey! I thought you guys were gone forever. Glad you’re back!

Valve's dedication to right to repair, constant software improvements plus touchpads making more games playable like RTS and colony sims still makes me prefer the Steam Deck.

@Juice8767

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm super torn, I love the raw specs of the Ally and they've got the gear junkie in my drooling but everything outside of that including linux is a win for me on Valve's side.

@BigBoss7777777

Жыл бұрын

So much cope in the comments. If you’re not into RTS games the ROG Ally is clearly the superior device.

@AstralDragn

Жыл бұрын

@@BigBoss7777777 I dunno, I'm pretty iffy on the buttons if they're decidedly not good on the Ally, And while touch pads aren't 'great' I certainly can find more uses for them in all kinds of situations. Touch screen is nice, I don't think the deck has that.

@bobowon5450

Жыл бұрын

i've tried to play rts games on the steam deck and the experience is an atrocity against mankind. Touch pads are not a mouse and never will be

@xmlthegreat

Жыл бұрын

​@@AstralDragn the Steam Deck definitely has a touchscreen. Right?

Man, lack of trackpads really is the biggest dissapointment. I use the trackpads on my Steam Deck *a lot*. I also was a total cheapskate and bought the 64GB version and stuck an SD card in. Performance and size/weight seem pretty nice for the Ally.

@doc8125

Жыл бұрын

Same, I use trackpad+gyro for all aiming in FPS games and couldn't live without it. Plus they're so versatile in what they allow you to do with control schemes and how to interact with more desktop like elements of the OS

@gugic42

Жыл бұрын

Well, everyone is different, right? I would love to get rid of trackpads on my steam deck in exchange to smaller body size. And trackpads realistically are the only reason why steam deck is SO HUGE. It's mainboard is actually accurately sized by the sceen size. Though ROG Ally is much smaller actually.

@KnexFour

Жыл бұрын

I agree completely, the trackpads are a must. Point n click games, desktop, programs, RTS, MOBAS are all possible and a joy to do on the deck because of those trackpads. To me the Ally is a console, the Deck is a PC for this reason. And I also agree that comparing the Ally to the most expensive Deck is a mistake, it should be compared to the cheapest one. I paid $15 on Craigslist for a 256GB 2230 SSD to replace the cheapo 64GB drive it came with.

@Rugg-qk4pl

Жыл бұрын

I bet it isn't even an option because of amazing patent law :-)

@aboveaveragebayleaf9216

Жыл бұрын

​@@doc8125 same

Your comment about XG eGPU is the gold of the whole review! Wish they have that especially supporting 4090 desktop card.

Seems like a decent start but the Steam Deck has had way more thought and care put into the user experience it would seem. It's like Asus put all the cool features on the whiteboard, but Valve actually thought about how to implement them and how they would interact. If they go for a 2nd iteration, they can probably dethrone the Steam Deck, but by then we'll probably have a new steam deck.

@KLAP_TV

Жыл бұрын

You're very right about that Valve really did think about the interplay between the various functions and -to me this is key- listened a LOT to the community in developing the software. All the functions people see now are for a large part things the community asked for, like Game profiles and more settings in the quick menu etc. Valve also really wants you to go and experiment with the device - it's really your device. Partnering with iFixit is just such a big finger to Apple and their anti-consumer hatred etc.

@idkidk1952

Жыл бұрын

@@KLAP_TVfr bro valve is for the community and always have been. I definitely believe the deck will get better and better cuz they actually listen/care bout their consumers

@AZBCDE

Жыл бұрын

Value didn’t put much thought into the Deck’s aesthetics or its screen display. Both look HIDEOUS, so so UGLY

@travelerofthevoid

Жыл бұрын

@@AZBCDE The screen is fine, could it be better? Sure, but then that raises the price. The aesthetics overall don't really matter in this because that's subjective. It isn't a car or clothes, it's meant to play games. Aesthetics will come in to play years down the line when more companies have products that can compete with the steam deck, giving people more choice, which would be great. But at the moment, everyone is so focused on "beating the steam deck" they don't actually look at why the steam deck is holding it's ground. They made it hella simple to use out the box for (and this is the most important part) even the average person: "Game mode" is the default, here's your games list and if it has a green checkmark all you have to do is download them, and you're good to go.

@Foogi9000

Жыл бұрын

@@AZBCDE Nah you gotta be smoking crack as the design is perfect for what it is.

It wasn't mentioned, but the Ally also lacks game suspend/resume. Kind of a big deal when playing on the go.

@findgod...

Жыл бұрын

Also shader downloading

@inferno7528

Жыл бұрын

It has that feature

@panamike6178

Жыл бұрын

Kind of a big deal all around. Those PC games take a while to start up, not the same as a console game starting up. The auto resume is amazing. I play the Witcher 3 till 1am wake up hit power and leave right where I left off.

The trackpads on the Steam Deck are a big selling point for me, the extra precision helps.

@titoriano1

Жыл бұрын

Crazy I know, but it’s a deal breaker when others don’t have them lol

@azenyr

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget the touch sensitive joysticks. Amazing to make certain functions and controls only activate while you are actually touching the joystick. I use it to turn on and off "gyro as a joystick/mouse" in many games when I want precision control. After experiencing how flexible the steam deck is with all its hardware, all other handhelds seem dead to me. And btw 80% of the target audience of these handhelds are people who are playing old triple As, indies or emulation. Steam Deck power is already overkill. I play Read Dead Redemption on it all medium-high with FSR at 40-50 fps, perfect. I've seen comments about "cant run COD Vanguard on the steam deck!" And im like seriously dude? Play COD on the PC or big console for the love of god.

@lelandbatey

Жыл бұрын

The SD costing $300 (~40%) less is the biggest selling point for me.

@SilvercreekAnimations

Жыл бұрын

@@azenyr I completely agree.

@azethegreat958

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget the gyro as well.

Unfortunately, I lost my stream deck due to my kids being a bit wild one morning during drop-off. This is a nice brightside to that because I was going to eventually buy another, but this looks like a decent hardware upgrade. Now I just need to get the wife to okay dropping nearly a grand again (Canada prices) 💀

@pixelpatch

10 ай бұрын

Gah I have the same issue

@brunoar4886

7 ай бұрын

Sell your kids

@spike178

7 ай бұрын

Lose the wife then buy whatever you want.... Glad I not married what a nightmare.

Your issue with the ally will be fixed with the next fw update (beta), but it's also likely removes your warranty is your turn on a non default feature (like 120Hz)! -Asus

@charlesm.2604

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the heads-up we appreciate ya, boss! 👍

@connor040606

Жыл бұрын

Killed it!

@Sigma1

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if they will start shipping it in a bundle with a fire extinguisher

@auzanasyraf4551

Жыл бұрын

LMAO

This just makes me more excited about whatever SOC Valve builds for the next Steam Deck.

@Eskoxo

Жыл бұрын

not to mention they did not lie its actually custom amd chip this one isnt

@shi-woonyi2605

Жыл бұрын

@@Eskoxo Valve did lie, didn't you watch? They promised 400 nits, but it's over 500! !!! x)

@azraeihalim

Жыл бұрын

​​@@shi-woonyi2605 remember valve say about their deck targeting for 30 fps gaming? It turn out can run 60fps+

@npcimknot958

Жыл бұрын

agree! this is a positive for us no matter what it will push valve

@oatsaredelicious2521

Жыл бұрын

Didn't they say it won't get performance improvements for the next revisions.

Just got mine today. Its pretty sweet. And I got it a day early

This is so cool, if this were integrated into a book along with your other ideas I would read it on the spot

I'd be really interested to see what the ROG Ally's performance looks like on SteamOS. You don't have to worry about Asus' software if you just change the OS :)

@FoxyDrew

Жыл бұрын

The Ally runs Windows not iOS lmao, if you want to remove ASUS's software, just remove it. No point in flashing an entirely different operating system and running every game through a compatability layer just to remove ASUS bloat.

@bionic-beaver

Жыл бұрын

​@@FoxyDrewYes but what if you want to remove Windows telemetry?

@TrueThanny

Жыл бұрын

@@FoxyDrew SteamOS is a flavor of Linux, not iOS. And you don't "flash" an operating system. You install it.

@theuprising2216

Жыл бұрын

where are people getting "ios" from can people not read he said OS not IOS lmao

@lexkek5625

Жыл бұрын

​@@theuprising2216 people that can't read or have no clue about what they're talking about

The future of heldhelds is so exciting! I'll be sticking with the steam deck because the user experience is just so nice, but I'm glad to see other big manufacturers stepping in.

@dzenacs2011

Жыл бұрын

You know you ruin your eyes playing on small screen watchin on little details ? Its not even ajusted to mobile gaming you are just playing pc games on small screen.Really Unhealthy

@Freakmaster480

Жыл бұрын

@@dzenacs2011 You do understand the the distance from your eye to the screen is different right. While the screen is smaller it is, at least in my experience, much closer to my eyes.

@mrmeadowsiscool

Жыл бұрын

@@dzenacs2011 you mean you didnt ruin yours already playing pokemon on a nonbacklit gameboy color ?

@FalkFlak

Жыл бұрын

afaik that's an urban legend. It's the long time staring into low brightness of screens that's killing our eyes (that's even so in low light apartments). We're build to walk in the bright sun light. That doesn't mean we should Play from a 10cm distance, though.

@RossNerdyScotsman

Жыл бұрын

Top steam deck is 570 pounds, the rog handheld is 700 pounds so the rog is 130 pound more

For the same price i wouldnt be sure which one to take but the steam deck for 400$ + 50$ for a bigger ssd is still the much better value i think

The battery test only used KZread loop, other tests in real life gaming scenarios with lower spec games on vids from other creators seem to show the steam deck having the edge to a more significant degree than this video outlines (from what I’ve seen anyways!) - this is probably a fairly big deal depending on how much you play unplugged :) For AAA I think it’s a lil more shaky

from what i’ve seen i think i’ll stick with the steam deck. I know that the steam community will have my back with repairability and support

@weldsj8847

Жыл бұрын

I did get the $400 64 Gig. I do intend to put in a 1-2 TB SSD. I don't know that the Ally will have other options for more than 1/2 TB, or as much support as Deck users get in upping their storage. I'll be happy with it for the next 5 years by which time, who knows what will be out and at what price.

@ghostlegit

Жыл бұрын

Steam deck is mid now

@StueyTheWiz

Жыл бұрын

I'm sticking with my deck for now too i only play less demanding titles on it if i want to play the latest and greatest I have a pc for that

@Ja3300n

Жыл бұрын

Yeah after seeing Gamers Nexus Video about ASUS from today, I will stay away from their products for a while.

@m.g.a3481

Жыл бұрын

@@ghostlegit Software optimization is the key. What brings u double performance when ur game runs still shit. The Ally will get 2 years support and then their will be a new one and the old ones won't have a support like the deck

The missing Trackpads are a deal breaker for me. The additional extra height of the screen of the deck is nicer for emulation. With the deck you can set the refresh rate of the screen and the fps target using a single slider. 45 fps on 45 hz = money The Steam Deck console-like sleep function is important on the go.

@fadeeeed

Жыл бұрын

i agree, after running windows only on my deck for few months, I cant imagine dong it without trackpads.

@DroBoww

Жыл бұрын

I completely agree with you, also the fact that valve will probably make a lot of new models of the steam deck and will support it for a long time whereas I doubt the ally will get the same support.

@bcav712

Жыл бұрын

@@fadeeeed how is running windows on it? I’ve been thinking of switching to it.

@m11kan

Жыл бұрын

@@fadeeeed there is touch screen that you can use

Thanks for your versus post. Your video is wayyy more informative than any other post on the same topic..

@notacloutchaser7407

4 ай бұрын

Way more boring and annoying

I love that they’re calling them out and they’re not afraid

Reminder that the steam deck has haptic trackpads, the unique analog sticks etc. and the base tier model can be upgraded.

@SWOTHDRA

Жыл бұрын

The upgrade in ssd is ba slow version, so not really an upgrade

@JeffR110

Жыл бұрын

Right? Im glad theres finally some competition that is reasonably priced, but those trackpads are amazing and *most* people would be fine getting the cheapest steam deck and putting a cheap 500gig sd card for storage. At least this steam deck killer doesnt cost twice as much, I really hate seeing those videos of machines costing twice as much trying to compare themselves to the steam deck. Id certainly expect something that cost that much to be better then it

@WhiteRaven___

Жыл бұрын

@@SWOTHDRA not really an upgrade? Lol you can put a much better SSD in the base model steam deck than what comes on the high end model for less money.... besides the screen protector that's the only difference between the models

@Later_Nerd

Жыл бұрын

@@SWOTHDRA honestly SSD speeds are so overrated. You can stare at a spec sheet all you want but in real world usage it really doesn't matter. I have a Samsung SSD in my Steam Deck and a Samsung MicroSD card. Honestly, unless it's a huge open world game, I don't care where I install the game. The MicroSD performance is completely adequate. So maybe you have to wait an extra 4 seconds when you first launch the game. Who cares lol. SSD speeds just don't matter in a real world scenario like the specs would lead you to believe.

I still fundamentally believe that one of the biggest "pros" for the deck is the trackpads. No other handheld has either replicated or competed with this at all and it's such an invaluable feature for people who play lots of strategy games for example.

@chromesucks5299

Жыл бұрын

Steam owns the patent for those type of trackpads,

@Klldarkness6008

Жыл бұрын

Makes the Sims series, Simcity, City Skylines, etc etc all completely playable on the Steam Deck. Accurate mouse controls that don't rely on a joystick, or switching what kind of control said joystick offers, is a huge plus in my book. Add in that I just find it hard to believe that anyone is going to spend so much money to play high end games, when they likely already have a gaming PC, and I don't know that it will be as successful as Linus hopes. You can get a refurbished 3080TI for $700 most days of the week, and if someone already has a gaming PC, upgrades seem more likely. The Steam Deck sold very well in the beginning, with preorders and sales since, but that was also because the bang for the buck was really there...I'd imagine the people that would buy a handheld gaming PC have already bought one. The Steam Deck. Personally I hope I'm wrong, and that it sells like hotcakes. That'll convince other manufacturers to get into the space, and that can only ever be good for the consumer.

@legostarwarsrulez

Жыл бұрын

The steam controller r&d is finally earning its money back

@glub1381

Жыл бұрын

You're right. All 4 people who play those games will only buy steam decks.

@azenyr

Жыл бұрын

Glad someone mentions the trackpads. Ofter overlooked, and a big mistake not talking about them when he was speaking about how hard it was to control the mouse in windows with rog ally's joysticks. I play many games exclusively with the right trackpad instead of joystick for camera. No Mans Sky is a big example. I love steam deck hardware input devices and flexibility, it's literally perfection

Just bought mine, excited to get home and try it!

When i see the Ally it definitely catches my eye when i see the better performance, but the way that valve treats there user/customer base is what will keep me around with the SD its just a better experience..What would be a huge W was if when valve came out with the SD2 is if they allowed people to send in the OG decks as either a trade in or if they allowed people to send in the OG deck and pay a price to upgrade the orginal on to the new specs....That my friends would be a HUGE W

@notacloutchaser7407

4 ай бұрын

Isnt going to happen.

@astr0void

3 ай бұрын

Lmao this guy

I'm still watching, but I LOVE the visual cues you're adding to the performance charts to highlight the numbers as you talk about them. It's already much easier to follow along without needing to pause (and I can still pause if I want to explore the numbers in more detail). PLEASE keep doing this - I'm a big fan!

I think this is a good case for how going Linux works in Valves favor. The modularity and opensourcey-ness allows Valve to customize the OS and get around Microsoft's mobile UI failings. So happy to see more competition. I want to see a future where mobile gaming PCs really take off.

@jfolz

Жыл бұрын

It was pretty funny how "use Steam Big Picture mode" was the suggested fix for the shortfalls of ASUS' software.

@seshpenguin

Жыл бұрын

I wonder how well the Ally would work with one of the SteamOS ISOs.

@Gfirex

Жыл бұрын

@@seshpenguin Depends on the hardware and if it's supported.

@seshpenguin

Жыл бұрын

@@Gfirex Yea, it's a customized SoC among other things so it might be up to the community to write and port drivers for Linux.

Great vid. Pre-ordered Ally and D-brand screen protector because of it. 👍

Cool review and comparsion! Thanks for the video

Im happy to see more competition in the handheld pc market i bet it will sell a lot but what i adore more with my steam deck and valve is the massive support they have for the device you can tell valve wants it to succeed hearing that linus himself told asus about the button issue and seeing the production model still has the same problem is very telling of its future support from them

@Kmodoe

Жыл бұрын

Look at there motherboards and JaysTwoCents newest video... Seems quite common for them

@petmach

Жыл бұрын

The support probably wont be as good but TBF your example isn't that relevant. By the time Linus told them about the buttons, like a month or two ago, the hardware was very probably already manufactured.

@MaNameizJeff

Жыл бұрын

I really want to support the linux (no pun) push, too. The more power I can give with valve in getting games working on linux the better. I was really hoping the popularity of the pc handhelds and steamdeck would finally get that ball rolling where we can ditch windows.

@mars_12345

Жыл бұрын

Changing something like that doesn't take weeks. It takes months. But I can believe that they didn't care enough, given what they did with their motherboards for AMD platform.

@damyr55

Жыл бұрын

​@@petmach Sure, but that would only be relevant if we were talking about a very obscure issue, that Linus somehow discovered. But this is one of the control buttons. There's no way that this was news to them, when Linus told them

I will stick to the SteamDeck and save for the next VALVE product. I do like that more options are coming out though as this will ultimately benefit us as consumers.

@portanrayken3814

Жыл бұрын

the extra cost is not worth it for me at least

@MechanicaMenace

Жыл бұрын

Tbh the increased performance is a bit pointless to me without a Steam Input style solution to playing mouse and keyboard centric games.

@JohnnyCagewins

Жыл бұрын

And in true Valve fasion, the Steam Deck 2 will be amazing everyone will be anticipating the 3rd variant years later but sadly it will never come😅 All jokes aside I love my Steam Deck but it seems like the ROG ally will fill a nice void for people not interested in strategy or older PC games. I want handheld gaming to take off

@gorukooo

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyCagewinsThat’s the valve curse. However they are probably more likely to update a console rather than a game series. Steam deck v1 is only gonna be viable for a few more years.

@samnite3

Жыл бұрын

@JohnnyCagewins I honestly don't want Valve to rush out the next model too quickly. Let them perfect the experience of the current model and listen to community feedback like they have been already. When technology allows for a better screen AND better battery life for a reasonable price then come out with the next model. I can see Valve offering a higher tier model for a higher price since the most popular model was the 512gb version.

I have a Deck and i just got the ROG Ally. I love Ally so much. Use it every day

I’ve been waiting for a steam deck for a long time. It was sold out for for a long time so I was able to buy it fairly recently. As soon as I bought it, a couple weeks later the Ally was released. Happens every time, I want the best gaming device but I ain’t rich so now they release the best hand held! Thanks

Nearly every review has mentioned the buttons. I don't know how anyone can deal with buttons getting STUCK under the body. That would drive me nuts during gameplay.

@m.g.a3481

Жыл бұрын

Buttons from ally or deck ?

@YousifFiras

Жыл бұрын

@@m.g.a3481 ally

@majikarus

Жыл бұрын

@@m.g.a3481 The ally.

@pathway4582

Жыл бұрын

To be fair some of the earlier Steam Deck models also had that issue, but it was an easy RMA. Idk if I'd trust Asus with that.

@majikarus

Жыл бұрын

@@pathway4582 In this case it seems like a design flaw since every review mentions an issue with the buttons. Even if you get a replacement it's the same just as Linus even points out on his retail model.

The fact that the Deck is actually $399 + 50-70 bucks for a 512gb SD card still kills everything else for me.

@horacegentleman3296

Жыл бұрын

Smooth brain take.

@animesh2217

Жыл бұрын

It has emmc storage instead of SSD in base model

@rafaelpinhaosantos

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but the decks hardwares is old school, can't handle most games

@pascha4527

Жыл бұрын

@@animesh2217 emmc is still quite fast and every games I tried running from an SD card were just fine.

@Aremisalive

Жыл бұрын

​@@horacegentleman3296 How so? Its sooo much cheaper

I bought a Steamdeck. I love it. Maybe if the ROG had the dual touchpads I would have gone for it but those Steamdeck touchpads are amazing. As far as performance all my favorite games play really well on it.

@JosephJoestar888

11 ай бұрын

what are your favorite games?

@mobaby1979

11 ай бұрын

Last time I heard so much about pads, my kids were younger and needing me to run to the Walgreens

@mike-ws3jl

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I got a steam deck during the spring sale for like 20% off change out the 64gb to a 1tb ssd, all together about 470

@serpercival2018

10 ай бұрын

Which version of the steam deck - I just wanna play baldurs gate

@mike-ws3jl

10 ай бұрын

@@serpercival2018 well my friend says it plays very well on the deck with very little fps glitches, but the install size is like 120gb

Amazing job at reviewing both products and not being biased making sure to list major pros and cons about the both 👍🏿 and a sub don’t worry I made sure to put on the 🔔

@panamike6178

Жыл бұрын

He said the Steam Deck Sucks at the beginning of the video.

I think this shows why valve decided to go with Arch, instead of windows. and im happy they did, and are actively investing in linux gaming. the ally sure has great performance when juiced up, but if you have to be tethered to the wall in order to use it, you might as well get a nice laptop and a controller. im not sure how i feel about it, it is great that there is competition from some of the big bois, but for now the deck seems to be the better option overall

@xgab0320

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Arch is just better

@DownUnder43

Жыл бұрын

No you don't need to be hooked to an wall 😆🤦. Stop with this garbage argument about battery because the Deck Baterry life is completely garbage gaming also. Nearly every owner I know has a power brick of 65W therefore you don't need to be hooked to a wall 🤦.

@Thewaterspirit57

Жыл бұрын

The Ally still has better performance compared to the deck at 15 watts. So no, you don’t need to be tethered to a wall to be able to play the dumb thing. Also windows was never built with devices like these in mind, with such puny batteries. Majority of gaming laptops have a 99.9 watt hour battery, that still gets a good battery life even in something like a mobile RTX3050ti/4050 or 3060 mobile. Plus valve also made their “steam OS” really customized, and I guess free to use for any device, so they could’ve had windows and Steam OS on the device. Cuz Linux still stucks with gaming, especially outside of steam.

@NatrajChaturvedi

Жыл бұрын

I hate that neither Asus nor others like Aya Neo want to invest in touchpad that Valve has been innovating on since they launched their controller.

3:40 That really is incredible when I remember I had a GTX1060 at release, and it struggled to do 60fps at 1080p medium.

The pcsx2 nightly build with this is Dream come true.

This feels a better console to play AAA games, but I believe the steam deck customization layer with the touchpads, 4 rear buttons and an incredible UI to create and share control schemes will be much preferred for playing actual computer games on the move.

@GeoStreber

Жыл бұрын

I agree, but that just means that Microsoft needs to pull up a new UI for a mobile version of Windows 11, or, alternatively, Valve needs to publish SteamOS for 3rd party hardware as soon as possible.

@ThompYT

Жыл бұрын

@@GeoStreber dont think that'll bring touchpads to the ally

@Natsukashii1111

Жыл бұрын

Nah steam deck is limited to single player game. If you want to play real multi-player games, well ally is way better.

@ThompYT

Жыл бұрын

@@Natsukashii1111 No it isn't lol

@zachc4451

Жыл бұрын

@@Natsukashii1111 I guess "real multi-player games" all have the same anticheat, and none of those multiplayer games that DON'T have anticheat, or have SteamOS (or Linux entirely) white listed are not "real multi-player games".

The Trackpads on steam deck are a game changer. I didn't realize this until I started using them. They also allows you to type with both thumbs instead of conventional taping the directional pads/thumbstick. They also allows you to use the mouse in desktop mode seamlessly, making it truly portable than to attach to a dock for ease of use. This brings to the point linus mentioned "have to wait for proton to support games", to that I have never faced such issues. Even Diablo 4 is playable on the deck now, using the trackpad if you prefer using a mouse. I would have bought the ROG, but steam deck community and valve support has been super solid and very active. This is also part of the reason i don't buy those Chinese handhelds because they lack the community support, which the ROG seem to lack at this point.

@Imafoolforresponding

Жыл бұрын

Its not released yet so it's kinda hard for a device to have a community when the community doesn't own it yet.

@silentmat2029

Жыл бұрын

People have been creating programs that support controller input on PC for many years now. It’s not like there is no workaround to it, but I will admit that having community layouts is amazing. For starters, DS4 is an amazing program for games that don’t have built in controller support.

@reklom2334

Жыл бұрын

not just the physical but the level of customizable/programmable control layouts for all the buttons, sticks, triggers, and pads makes a world of difference. esp in the realm of pc gaming

@chdreturns

Жыл бұрын

A mouse attached to a handheld pc is miles better than a trackpad which have ALWAYS sucked on EVERY device a trackpad has been on. Valve's idea to add a trackpad was completely braindead. Its time for trackpads to go the way of the dinosaur

@chdreturns

Жыл бұрын

Aya seems to actually have community support... OneX and GPD tho... Worse than Dell

I already have a steam deck and honestly none of these things sound that great to me. All I hear is less battery life. What's the point of I can only play plugged into the wall? I have a PC for that

I just hope this become a trend and we will have tons of selection for handheld pc later in the future

If you can eventually get the Steam Deck's OS on this thing, I think it would be an absolute FORCE. That being said, it doesn't really do anything that my deck doesn't, so I'll probably wait for the next generations

@jclosed2516

Жыл бұрын

Question is how the SteamOS version, that is specially made for Steam Deck hardware, will behave if that hardware is nowhere to be found. Do not forget that the game optimization is tailor-made for the graphic capabilities and input hardware (as well as pads and haptic feedback) of the Steam Deck. I think the generic SteamOS for PC's will run somewhat fine, but the Steam Deck version will have some problems...

@blunderingfool

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't that just be Big Picture Mode? (With some limitations.)

@yippy7951

Жыл бұрын

​@@blunderingfool that is an application Steam Deck OS is an operating system

@azenyr

Жыл бұрын

​@@blunderingfool that's like getting a half baked SteamOS or SteamOS from Wish, but with a HUGE massive hog that is Windows and all its thousands of useless apps like Teams, OneDrive and Office all running and installing themselves in the background quickly making uour 16gb RAM feel like 8. I also agree that Linux (SteamOS for example) is the best OS for handhelds like these where every little point of performance vs battery life matters.

@theobserver4214

Жыл бұрын

@@azenyr office doesn’t run in the background, otherwise it would be truly dire 😂

It would be nice to see something like a 1 year later video to see how they sand after the ally has time to mature.

@shibeguy8660

Жыл бұрын

That's what I'm waiting for but at that point I suspect a deck 2 announcement and the deck has proved itself to me already

@aceywacy5156

Жыл бұрын

Sand

@joshjlmgproductions3313

Жыл бұрын

@@shibeguy8660 Valve has said they don't plan on releasing a Deck 2 for many years. And if they ever were to do so, they would focus more on battery life and other QoL features instead of more performance.

@adultlunchables

Жыл бұрын

I'm waiting another 10 yeras for the weight to drop. Everyone glosses over the fact that all these PC handhelds weigh like 3x more than a Nintnedo Switch. Fuck that shit. I already put my Switch down in tabletop mode during long play sessions. For how much these weigh, just get a gaming laptop and a wireless controller.

@aa-yt7wo

Жыл бұрын

Probably another year and a half we'll have one with Strix Point and 32GB memory. 16 RDNA3+ CUs

I'm looking forward to trying Asus Ally outside on a cold day in Toronto

I haven’t used the deck but just preordered the ally. I like using Macs for work, productivity, etc and parallels runs all of my RTS games but shooters are rough, and games like Diablo are strictly direct x 12 these days. Not to mention a need for serious processing power so you need a pro model to jump the gap (only to find out the game probably won’t run great anyway). The ally is the perfect calling. It will take care of my racing games, shooters, and RPGs. Even better it can practically be played in the car and charged via usb. I have zero expectations for gaming on the go so battery life isn’t much of a concern as much as portability and the ability to play direct x 12 games. A small gaming laptop I’m sure won’t even make it an hour so we will see how this goes!

I think it just goes to show how impressive the Steam Deck really was

@codyrap95

Жыл бұрын

Is*

@alemem

Жыл бұрын

@@codyrap95 Steam Deck really 'was' when it first released. I wasn't wrong

@Yonggbaek

Жыл бұрын

Was and still is.

@griffin955

Жыл бұрын

@@Yonggbaek Was, because the Ally and other competitors are here now. It's not impressive anymore.

@MegaMinecraft901

Жыл бұрын

@@griffin955 Software is still ahead, so it's still impressive.

The Steam Deck still looks like a much better option to me. Valve will be supporting it far longer that ASUS will the Ally, since ASUS doesn't make any money off it after purchase. Also the Steam Deck is repairable and will probably last for 10 years or more if you treat it right

@Soal-el2dy

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't make any money after purchase??

@tykendrick800

Жыл бұрын

It can't play newer games. Redfall don't play well, farcry 6 have bad input lag. If we are honest. It's really lacking when it comes to playing AAA games. But it's still worth the money.

@zachc4451

Жыл бұрын

@@tykendrick800 Redfall don't play well for many people regardless of handheld or not. Also, input lag has a direct relationship with framerate as well as the display itself, and can also have other factors that can be *fixed*.

@Khaostheory1980

Жыл бұрын

@Tyrone Kendrick I don't think Redfall should be used as a yardstick for anything 🤣🤣. Redfall doesn't work well on any platform.

@stitchfinger7678

Жыл бұрын

@@Soal-el2dy Buying a SteamDeck is a portal into the Steam ecosystem, where you can then give Valve more of your money thru games and other hardware purchases. Buying an Ally just...buys an Ally. They can't really further monetize the project after everyone has one.

as a steam deck owner i don’t think it’s acceptable to not have trackpads like the steam deck has, it seems trivial at first but as soon as you have first hand experience it’s just essential

@jammo7370

10 ай бұрын

especially when you're running windows on the thing and you HAVE to use a mouse given the meh touchscreen support.

@Chronon88

10 ай бұрын

GPD always has a a track pad and even a keyboard on every device because they know Windows is Windows >. (At home I would have a wireless mouse at hand for Ally, maybe even a keyboard for login screens.)

@jammo7370

10 ай бұрын

@@Chronon88 if i wind up getting an ally i might do the super scuffed move of using a steam controller with it for any mouse stuff lol

@Chronon88

10 ай бұрын

@@jammo7370 not a bad idea. I might recommend the cheapest Steam Deck + a big SD card, for the best deal on the market though. Get it second hand for even less if there are enough people moving onto these devices.

@HK1_11

7 ай бұрын

Better screen, better performance, better cooling, lighter >>> trackpad 💀

I got a customized Steam Deck with a 1tb swap and I just got my Asus Ally yesterday. I enjoy both, but the Ally has some great visuals on the screen. I'm keeping both.

The main reason why I don’t think I’ll ever be replacing my steam deck is the controls. The trackpads, the gyro, and the back buttons are essential to me. I’d literally be unable to play certain games without these things, especially the back buttons. For example, I play deep rock galactic. I have one of the back buttons mapped so that when I press it, it brings up the chat, and when I long press it, it brings up the on-screen keyboard. I use the gyro and trackpads in tandem for better accuracy in shooting games. These features are so nice that I can’t imagine living without them.

@krystianmazurczak3965

Жыл бұрын

Rock and Stone

I nearly sold my Steamdeck for an Ally. Then I thought about the support the Steamdeck gets, especially from the community. So I decided to keep it over the Ally.

@Eskoxo

Жыл бұрын

thats a big plus valve has replaced at least 3 things from VR for me out of warranty and even ships 1st

@raccoon2276

Жыл бұрын

sell your steamdeck and get a lapto

@applehazeva2739

Жыл бұрын

@@raccoon2276 Brother in Christ, Laptops are not as portable like Handhelds

@hahasamian8010

Жыл бұрын

@@raccoon2276 I like analog sticks and being able to stand up and stuff :>

Sounds good on paper, but there is no way I'm changing Valve's amazing software they made for the Deck (Steam Input mostly) and better overall support than questionable ASus. Also the touchpads and gyros are amazing.

If I didn't already have a steam deck, I would definitely get this, but I use my Steam deck for mostly indie games or less demanding games. Big AAA titles I us my desktop for, so the extra power on the ROG isn't as big a deal to me.

My problem is that with Asus way of managing the blowing up motherboards Idk if I could trust their support to fix devices. Steam Deck has godly support

I like what the Z1 Ally’s trying to do but, as someone who has a Deck I cannot underestimate the ability Valve gives you to customize your control schemes. Being able to do so much with all buttons, triggers and trackpads on the deck is so nice. I have a feeling a Deck 2 or a Deck 2.0 is going to likely be the Z1 Ally with better I/O.

@stankbuddha

Жыл бұрын

you have a deck but no pc ? ? ? that feature has been on the pc client of steam for years

@kareemelbrashy1478

Жыл бұрын

valve said that the deck 2 wont have better peformance

@mephisto5856

Жыл бұрын

@@kareemelbrashy1478 pretty sure it will since ASUS bumped up the competition. The Ally is the only competition that the Deck has at this point. The million dollar question for all is that what kind of support that ASUS will give to the Ally since everyone who knows ASUS well knows that they have terrible customer support and now experiencing issues with their mobos.

@ykiikii

Жыл бұрын

​@@stankbuddhaWe're talking about handheld vs. handheld. A PC is not a handheld.

@glebkorniyenko1084

Жыл бұрын

right? also the trackpads, admittedly they aren't as useful in games but I couldn't imagine navigating desktop without them, and that's not something they would be able to just patch in

I fixed the button sticking issue by taking the cover off and getting a fine grit sand paper and ever so slightly sending it out a little more.

Would it be possible to revisit the ROG Ally review now that they've put out their launch day drivers/new software? I've heard it significantly improved performance among other things

I’d love to see how the ASUS would work with the Steam OS installed

@LockonKubi

Жыл бұрын

True, how much of Valve's wizardry is Proton and the highly customized OS is a good question, the ROG ran Windows.

@ThomasNosey

Жыл бұрын

Install it then :D

@chuckstrut

Жыл бұрын

I would like to see steam os installed on it and more manufacturers coming out with handheld console running steam. Hopefully the other game launchers would come to the table.

@F1ll1nTh3Blanks

Жыл бұрын

I think it's high time Microsoft and Valve offered a Steam/Xbox gaming mode for these tablet/handheld systems for the more casual consumers anyhow. I don't see why they wouldn't, they'd be able to sell more products under the OS without even necessarily having to build the hardware, given that well others are doing it anyway.

@psiah9889

Жыл бұрын

​@@ThomasNosey probably isn't that simple. Wifi drivers, controller drivers, screen drivers, etc. Often don't get solid linux versions. Open Source community might eventually get them working but new laptops and wot generally take a while to work properly in Linux, and some of them never really do. Granted, Asus themselves could release blobs for those drivers with little effort and just have it work great from the get-go, but I'm pretty sure Microsoft is subsidizing the device so there's essentially no chance of that.