I was utterly petrified of snakes my whole life. I literally live in the middle of nowhere, on the corner of lame and boring. Northwestern, Ontario, Canada and all we have is garter snakes 🐍but still would scream bloody murder when seeing one. Even pictures, but then I started watching channels like yours. Everything started to change. Went from peeking at videos, to one eyed watching to now actually enjoying your videos, your channel. Thank you. 😊 I can't say I still wouldn't freak out seeing them in real life, but I am learning and growing. You're amazing and do incredible things for reptiles. Keep up the amazing work!!!

@mrmouse-ol9pw

21 күн бұрын

I promise u have more then garter snakes local. Including a lil burrowing boa😉

Good thing to know if it proves out to be lethal. That way a lot of heartache can be avoided. Thanks Billy.

It's good that you show this and share it with others. Then we know that it could be an issue with that combo. But, hopefully next year it will prove out not to be fatal and you will hit that crypton genetic stripe and will be healthy. Love the videos you guys make and Thanks for all you do. 🙂

@proherper

2 жыл бұрын

Cryptic Gs Dg and Clown Gs Dg has been produced without issues. The combo is fine, this is just bad luck unfortunately :(.

@teijaflink2226

2 жыл бұрын

Hope so because it really looked like something was terribly geneticly wrong with all 3 of them, maybe there's a bigger risk of genetic issues but not with all of them.

@CrowCoded

2 жыл бұрын

It could be genetic illness or problems with incubation. Either way it sucks.

Oof, so sad. I've noticed other breeders having deformities pop up in their clutches this year too, I know Justin Kobylka lost an entire clutch due to shark jaw. :(

Thank you for sharing, it's awesome that people will be straightforward with the bad and ugly side of breeding. Keep up the good work and we cant wait to see the results. Hopefully, this was just a fluke and everything will be fine next time.

Ouch. So far it's looking like a fatal combo.

@johnprior3746

2 жыл бұрын

Have you seen other examples of the combo besides this one that had issues?

You’re stronger than I am because I could never let an animal continue to suffer so that I could show it off on a KZread video. These creatures should have been put down long before this video started. Their deformities are painful I’m sure.

Unfortunate brotha hopefully next year it's better if not atleast you took the time to figure it out and shared the Info. Your a good man Billy, passionate!

No way. I'm from Bavaria and currently looking for my first Ball Python or Cornsnake. That shout-out comes perfect because I don't know any breeder or reptile shop in my area

@Mike007_

2 жыл бұрын

we have a lot good cornsnake breeder in germany, belgium, nl and so on. Look in the facebook groups like "kornnatter striped" and "kornnatter", kornnatter xanthen have a own fb page.

@ilc_mike.2241

2 жыл бұрын

Bruder was laberst du es gibt etliche Züchter

I had to use the cryptic video as a reference to a comment on chris hardwick video on desert ghost clutch. I mention that billy said it came from the desert ghost and another person comented to me saying it came from clown. But thank you for these videos for reference!!!!!!

I read that too much heat, even 2 degrees from a misplaced heat source will cause those deformities

I feel like it is prob a lethal genetic combo... :( poor babies.

If it happens again I'd probably rule it out to a bad genetic combo

@MutationCreationCanada

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely. Hopefully round 2 is successful

@Desolace1021

2 жыл бұрын

@@MutationCreationCanada yea hopefully it was just bad luck cus they look amazing

Very educational, thank you Billy

this is helpful for sure! i just cried watching that poor dead baby ball...

That’s a lot of kinking. I might have a het cryptic or clown in my collection so thanks for giving me a heads up. If it is an incompatible mutation, I’ll know when he’s breed ready.

@Desolace1021

2 жыл бұрын

If you try this combo and get similar issues would probably confirm bad gene combo

@lazarusepoo9220

2 жыл бұрын

@@Desolace1021 I think I’ve heard this through the grape vine before and thought not much of it until I saw the results this time. I remember something about G-Stripe and Cryptic causing an entire clutch to die off.

Thanks for sharing. Keep the good vibez up!

Sry about the deformities. It happens to the best of us.

I don't know if this would make any sense. I've seen you talk about inbreeding, breeding a parent to its children to prove something out. I know this is a bit of an older video, but do you think you'd ever make a video explaining kinks in the snakes, how inbreeding works for snakes, other genetic mutations, stuff like that? That's stuff I don't really understand about snakes and I want to learn more, because I want my own snake. Like can the kinking show up later in life, stuff like that.

Forgot to say soory about your bad luck in my other comment!! I know its part of the learning process and part of what its like to be on the leading edge of a lot of genetic projects. But I can see it still affects you and that's part of what shows me what a good guy you are and the care you put into raising quality, and well cared for critters for people!!

Same thing happened to my pied clutch. Looked just like the cryton with the kinked neck.

That's a bummer I am sorry Billy hopefully it's not a lethal combination good luck next year on that pairing again 🙏🙏🙏

Would be interesting to know if the issue is found in all males or all females

Thank you for sharing!!!

I agree its very strange that the criptic combos have issues and the others are fine I would think if it was a incubation prob they others would have been affected in some sense and form but wtf do I know lol your the expert ...better clutches ahead boss... #teamMC

I appreciate you showing the good the bad and the ugly!!!!!

@MutationCreationCanada

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully I am not the ugly part hahahahahahaha

@romeoaquino4097

Жыл бұрын

​@@MutationCreationCanada Thanks for showing the reality of breeding. Not always sunshine and rainbows. Im a first time breeder. hopefully everything goes well.

Thank you for showing this.

Thanks for Always being honest with us on the good bad an not so good appreciate it and hopefully it's not lethal mix

So when it comes to the emhancer gene? Do we now know if it is dg? And if so which line of dg? Now that testing is avail as a community can we all agree to pick 1 name and stick to it?!? Frustrating to newbies Lookimg back do u think it was an incubation issue? Would be my assumption Do u have a video on pithing these?

Sorry they came out that way Billy, hopefully it doesn't happen next hear when you try again. Glad she proved out though!

Our first clutch ever will be hatching 2 weeks tops. I already explained to the kids the good bad & ugly side of this.

@crystaltripi7574

2 жыл бұрын

Sending positive vibes and warm wishes that all the babies are healthy and sassy ☺️

Hello great video information Billy

awe the poor guy is still alive

Billy has lost weight! Looking trim

I'm still slacking on the back as well bro lol.

Do we know if the crypton/ genetic stripe , is compatible with life, genetically speaking could it be a terminal combination genetically????

It seems like the more you play with the genetics the harder it becomes to manage. I'm interested in finding a plain Pied snake with one or two genes

Keep trying man that was a fire 🔥 snake just absolutely beautiful

Sorry to hear the loss of your 2nd clutch, but at least few of the babies have made it out okay.

What causes the deformities? Heat or genetics?

Nothing goes to waste it just becomes the waste

So sorry 🥺 those babies would have been awesome 🥲. The others r very pretty also. Ty for the good, bad, an ugly, hopefully that helps others. 🥰💪🙏🙏

I love your videos and snakes

i wonder if there is something lethal about Cryptic combined with Enhancer/DG?!

It is sad but it is reality too. Hopefully it proves to not be a genetic combo issue because they are gorgeous.

Poor things, but would make a fascinating wet specimen

Hey Billy wondering if you have ever had any of that vermiculite tested for contamination. I have had perlite before that has wiped out plants due to unwashed finished product.

@nathanfleming1051

2 жыл бұрын

I make sure all the time now whether it is for the snakes or for the plants that it is washed 4 times and completely dried again before use.

As real as they come. The stuff the others don't show!!! Thank you

@MutationCreationCanada

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate that 💯

@jimtheyid

2 жыл бұрын

@@MutationCreationCanada No worries. I've just hatched my first ever Ball python. Been Absolutely going mad what I'm doing wrong ,And the answer was really nothing. Your real insights are so helpful

What ever happened to the last one?

PLEASE PLEASE PLEAE an I please have the name of the music in the background

Dang!! What a shame thats the one that didn't make it.

That little guy is so cute 😍

🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💪🏽

Billy you said do do 💩 lol

Seems that if two of the animals with kinking and issues were Cryptic and only possibly het for G-stripe that if it was a problem with het cryptic and het g stripe that the mom would have similar problems if she proved both het g-stripe and het cryptic? Unless its a specific lineage problem and the male is het for a different line of G-stripe, and thats the line with the issue once combined with Cryptic or het cryptic? There could be more to it, and maybe it only affects a certain percentage of the cryptic to g stripe animals, but I would venture to say its just an issue with the clutch and not necessarily crossing genetics, and probably that its just a coincidence that the het cryptic animals are the ones that have issues in this specific clutch. Definitely a great discussion to have though. But I would bet you don’t get the same issues the next time around.

@limitlessreptiles8494

2 жыл бұрын

Unless that is of course the issue is when combining het g-stripe, het cryptic, and het clown all in one.

I don’t believe in coincidences. 3-3 is definitely not one!!!

Wow Billy, I'm sorry. I don't know about cryptic and g-stripe being the issue. I got a crypton from Matt at Olympus Reptiles and went shopping for a future gf for him. Fireball had a little girl who was g-stripe dh cryptic dg so I got her. I was looking to add in some g-stripe to some projects so I couldn't pass it up, which means he's been working with g-stripe and cryptic together. I don't know anything about enhancer though. Might be worthwhile to reach out to him and see if he's experienced anything like this. Thanks for sharing and sorry for the loss of the babies =(

Sorry bud it's part of the breeding it happens to the best of us.

👌❤️

Uh oh… 😕

Is there a Spyder Gene being magnified and bounced with the het clown : ghi enhancer ?

My uncle was killed by his Python in Brampton back in the 1990's

Fuck ...I knew this is what the video would be...sorry billy!

@MutationCreationCanada

2 жыл бұрын

It happens

Sorry

Is dg and enhancer allelic?

@SplicedSerpents

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@johnprior3746

2 жыл бұрын

They're not allelic, they're the same mutation.

Cryptic gstripe dg has been made Jeremy fireball has sold a few

@MutationCreationCanada

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I know. Meant Enhancer G-Stripe Cryptons and Enhancer Cryptons

@nsaneclownpythons6372

2 жыл бұрын

@@MutationCreationCanada whats even more strange imo is that clown and cryptic act as visual, and clown gstripe enhancer has been done, but yeah thats something that really makes your scratch your head...

@MutationCreationCanada

2 жыл бұрын

@@nsaneclownpythons6372 We are always learning

Bummer. Hopefully it doesn't happen next time.

"BUT". Stop those spoilers :D

The amount of movement from the camera was starting to make me sick. There was a lot of trying to get a look at the snake and then being pulled up. We are still paying attention even if we aren't looking directly at you. I know your doing a lot and the education is there. Its just hard to focus when I'm getting sea sick from the camera.

Anyone else think he talks to everyone Like crap and he's always right 😅

I see this first

Imagine hatching just to be thrown around by this guy and handled with so little care. These are living creatures. You really dont seem to care about these snakes, just the profit.

@kandicephillips2445

2 жыл бұрын

Literally his entire way of holding them. Just watch someone lime snake discovery and you'll see the difference between someone who cares and him

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Damn I’d still buy that dying cryptic 😭😭

50% this ---66% that. Just let God make the animals

FYI there is no such thing as "100% het" and "50% het". Heterozygous means having one copy of a gene. I am assuming when you say "100% het" you mean two copies of a gene? When an animal has two copies of a gene it's called HOMOZYGOUS....NOT "100% HETEROZYGOUS"....this just doesn't exist....this term is an oxymoron. Any animal, if it has one copy of a gene is heterozygous for that gene. And if it had two copies of a gene it is homozygous for that gene. Homozygous means it will always pass one copy of the gene on to it's offspring. Snake breeders, who go around spouting info about genes, should go take a course in basic genetics. Also, any animal can't have a 66% chance of having any gene. They can only have 100%, 75%, 50%, 25% or 0% for EACH ANIMAL. The way snake breeders do chance percentages is, to be frank, ignorant. The chance for certain colors is per individual offspring, NOT divide the percentages by how many ever there is in a clutch/litter. Extremely incorrect understanding of how genetics work and are (or can be) passed on. Genetic inheritance is the same across all animals....so there's no special "solution" for snakes. I have enjoyed watching your videos, to see the beautiful animals, but because of the incorrect information on how genes work, are passed on and the incorrect terminology prevents me from watching them.

@MutationCreationCanada

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the lesson LOL

@samanthaperez4277

2 жыл бұрын

So if 1 parent is 25% n the other is 100% the offspring aren't 66% maybe you need to give up on generics and go back to basic math dear? Anyways Billy awesome video as always keep um coming!!

@ivyrose779

Жыл бұрын

I’m not into snakes but I enjoy watching these videos for some reason and have always wondered about that the xx% het thing. Are they saying that that’s the chance that particular animal will be het for that gene? For example, if you breed a homozygous to a heterozygous, would you say the babies are 50% get because the babies have about a 50% chance of being het? And, if that’s correct, do they do it this way because genetic testing isn’t practical?

@ivyrose779

Жыл бұрын

Also, if my previous comment is correct, I would guess that numbers like 66 come from estimating the chances of the genotype of an offspring who was produced from parents with unknown genotypes. So, kind of like a probability of a probability? I don’t know; I’m kinda confused on that one.

Fireball has posted Cryptic Gstripes before