A lot of people saying the title is clickbait need to watch all the way till the end 🤦🏼‍♂️

@stephenhewitt5835

2 жыл бұрын

Matt, No “DC” has ever been click bait. 🇬🇧

@Revoku

2 жыл бұрын

nice video, if you run into an annoying to fit fanbelt again, try a link belt, worked for years on an old cat dozer we had

@philipcable7518

2 жыл бұрын

Oh that doesn't look happy Matt. I hope it doesn't set the building schedule back too much.

@_n_l_

2 жыл бұрын

I like the titles :)

@christovogelsang473

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I don't know if anyone has said it yet, but bees look for a place to build their hive or even just a small nest in the case of wild bees. I currently have a nest in one of my lugnuts on a project car.

I think all used construction equipment is only serviced when it's bought or sold.

@DieselCreek

2 жыл бұрын

You’d be right for some peoples stuff

@davidtwliew616

2 жыл бұрын

Ha ha 😂

@bombardier3qtrlbpsi

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@FaenumVena

2 жыл бұрын

going by the rending screams coming from the excavator on the massive building site im forced to live next to, I dont think they know how to use grease properly either, if at all.

@kitecattestecke2303

2 жыл бұрын

Only if the owner is dumb Maintenance is the only hope/safety net a machine has from day one, you earn more if you do good service from day one

The fact that the guy knew the starter was janky for 11 years and did nothing say's to me that lots of other maintenance may have fallen through the cracks as well.

@TractorWrangler01

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Who puts up with a malfunction like that unless they never use the machine at all.

@rp1645

2 жыл бұрын

Dan when I got my 1971 SeaGrave Fire Engine for restoration. The place I got it from. I got all the maintenance Records from when the FD got it. It was neat looking through the past maintenance. The shop guys did maintenance on the Engine all the time. Did have transmission overhauled after I got it. But HAY it was a clutch that from record never had had any issues before me. The clutch was just ready for a overhaul. That clutch going for 40+ year's. There's a grease fitting in middle the owner of shop who did overhaul, said for me not to grease her all the time. That was part of problems it got to much grease, got grease in areas of clutch to gum it up. He told me how to and when to grease that fitting. Very little.

@XxPhasemanxX

2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorWrangler01 because it still works.

@firesurfer

2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorWrangler01 It's way too easy to just run it into the ground. Ironic.

@wallbawden5511

2 жыл бұрын

@@rp1645 well Mr rest in piece he was told the starter was what was the word JANKY not my words so would that not say that who ever owned it knew of it and just left it think of what you have written you knew nothing of your prob HE did

The installation instruction of the new starter probably called for grounding of the starter. So dropping it is A-OK.

@pugnate666

2 жыл бұрын

underrated

@bruceclarke2831

Жыл бұрын

Nice One

@Vanbulance89

Жыл бұрын

Exactly where my mind went as well, 😄 You beat me to the comments.

@WhoWantsToKnow81

6 ай бұрын

I C what you did there ;)

20 plus years ago my then young son’s daycare had some construction work going on next door on an empty lot. One day I picked him up after 5:00, and for the next 30 minutes we watched construction equipment do it’s thing. The one piece of equipment that my son was fascinated with was the “sheeps foot roller” (I had to interrupt some man’s work that day just to ask him what piece of equipment he was operating). This man was also nice enough to offer to let my son ride on his lap for just a few minutes while he rolled around the site on that thing. My son was so excited and he remembers that experience to this day. Thanks for bringing back that memory.

@mdemers767

2 жыл бұрын

That's cool that your son got that experience. I doubt today's insurance laws would allow such a thing to happen, and definitely not OSHA. OSHA probably outlawed it back then too, but a jobsite probably wasn't expecting a visit from any inspectors after 5pm.

@nickfrumusa7705

2 жыл бұрын

That is a great story. I grew up fascinated with heavy equipment and could watch them all day. Now I own a small excavation company doing just what I dreamed of when I was little. Pretty often I have little kids watching me from the street and I always go up and tell them you can sit in the equipment if you would like. I would of loved to have that opportunity when I was little and I am sure they will all remember that experience.

@PlutoProtogen

2 жыл бұрын

wholesome, i used to be fascinated by equipment and even like driving our tractor around, its got a bucket so thats always fun to mess with. i grew up mowing our field with an old ford jubilee tractor from the 50's i think it was, ran like a champ, i miss that tractor, we have a similar one in our field i got running but she needs work. i still remember using that tractor when i was 7 or 8, i also remember sitting on the fenders with my grandpa when he mowed with it, i would love to relive some of those memories

@renevanderkraats224

2 жыл бұрын

That's awesome :) When I was young I got a ride in the bucket of a digger. Guy seemed to know my friend. Lifted the bucket with me in it, and made the digger into a slow merry-go-round. Of course, when my friend was in the bucket, he stopped and dipped it into a pool of water :-P

@HuyQuang-kr8rs

9 ай бұрын

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The mill wrights at the place I worked for 37 yrs, used “never seize” on just about every nut and bolt they touched.and over time, it paid off.

@777poco

2 жыл бұрын

we used never seize on every bolt and pin we worked on, saves a lot of headaches

@Familyfleet

2 жыл бұрын

So everything and everyone was covered in it right? I cant take the lid off mine without getting covered in it. 😄

@lonpearson2134

2 жыл бұрын

@@Familyfleet yep. Amazing stuff the way it seems to jump to all kinds of places.

@lonpearson2134

2 жыл бұрын

@@777poco yep. Most of my electricians tools had some on them because we used it at every union on the aluminum conduit.

@breadlowry

2 жыл бұрын

Good stuff! Thread lock is also great for preserving threads and keeping corrosion out.

The one thing I love about your channel is you don’t edit out the mistakes or fails. Working on equipment is never easy at it seems and you bring that Human aspect to it.

@ryanboehm6355

2 жыл бұрын

It's nice that he can laugh and we can have a chuckle too. " it's actually in the manual you have to drop the starter on the ground before you install it" 😅

@Nurgles_Rot_

Жыл бұрын

When he falls back as the oil pours out is priceless!

@joehickey7295

8 ай бұрын

QPl

As a former heavy equipment operator I can attest that our equipment was never serviced unless it broke.

@Debbiebabe69

2 жыл бұрын

Servicing equipment that is faulty but still works eats all the profit from a job. If you can keep it running until you sell it on or someone else takes your work, it eats all the profits from THIER job.

@blaggercoyote

2 жыл бұрын

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Always been my motto!

@profusemoose1488

2 жыл бұрын

You could get the mechanic to take a look at something if you bought him a case of beer on my worksite.

@rainman7992

2 жыл бұрын

that's the south american way. oh no, wait. Have yet to find a complainer who takes the time to put together the numbers to prove that is better to maintenance than it is to let it break.

@profusemoose1488

2 жыл бұрын

@@Debbiebabe69 Until the faulty equipment costs you a day or two of production and you are still on the hook for the wages and/or penalties, it happens eventually and I've seen companies pay out the nose for this kind of shortsightedness.

24:05 Most of those machines are big and yellow - lika a giant sunflower. Maybe thats why bees like it so much 😆

"I picked up a manual and have the wiring diagrams" compactor: "FOOLISH MORTAL, YOUR WIZARDY HAS NO POWER HERE! "

@hectorpascal

2 жыл бұрын

Matt is actually a LOT better at vehicle electrics than he pretends! But like a lot of mechanical guys he thinks knowing about such stuff is a bit "girlie" 😆!

@seldoon_nemar

2 жыл бұрын

@@hectorpascal Oh, I was more thinking "this thing has 40 years of hack job bubba wiring, no about of OEM documentation is going to help with that" lol

Check the top of the lift pump, that little disc is a filter screen housing and I’ve seen some super gummed up because not many people know what it is.

@Porty1119

2 жыл бұрын

This is one of the first things to check on a new-to-you Deutz. Another is the injector pump oil level; they're manually oiled and many/most operators don't know that.

@typrus6377

2 жыл бұрын

The Perkins-powered Cats frequently have a similar issue (4.4, 6.6, 7.1) where they will have an inline fuel screen that doesn't show up under the Filter GP breakdowns, only under Fuel Lines. I've seen on Excavators, Bulldozers, Wheel Loaders, etc where it has never been changed and is stove up with crud.

@samdunn7860

2 жыл бұрын

We considered the inner filter as the safety filter. When dirt is found in the inside filter we consider the primary filter as having failed. We then replace both filters. Only replace outer filter until one of them fails, at that point when inner filter has dust you know the outer one has failed.

@dongrant5827

2 жыл бұрын

@@samdunn7860 I agree. I’m always trying to convince others that blowing out the air filter is not worth it, unless you really need to have the machine operating and can’t get a new filter. But that’s only a temporary fix. Air filters are a lot cheaper than turbochargers, valve jobs, etc.

@fastsetinthewest

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen people not know their filters were jammed up like on the Detroit Diesel. The engine would lose power. Simple problems cause big problems.

I'm a 76-year old retiree in West Palm Beach Florida and Diesel Creek is my new favorite channel. Being from up near Buffalo originally your snowy segments fill me with cold nostalgia. Looking good, Matt.

Matt: from my air cooled VW days I offer this suggestion: since you have TWo belt pulleys to operate the fan. I would fab a mount for the alternator so it runs off of one (or both) of the fan belts. That way if the charging light comes on in the cab, you know that either the alternator has blown something or you have blown a belt. The light comes on immediately if the alternator isn't running and if there is no fan action due to blown belt, it saves you a toasted engine. Even if the hot engine light circuit works, it comes on sometime after the belt failure, and after the engine is critically hot. A failed alternator light comes on immediately and is your "before the lock-up" early warning safeguard. I remember in my VW, the alternator light saved me an overheated toaster one day when the belt broke and I didn't hear anything amiss. Had it not been for that little light coming on I'd have lost my gutless-wonder death trap. Ben

@jimmycricket5366

6 ай бұрын

Or you could built a little frame and mount one of those proximity switches with a wheel like a jockey wheel which runs off the back of the belt.

The old guy I used to work for, would always put a 2nd belt on equipment that was extremely difficult to access.. He would just zip-tie the "spare belt" up out of the way so it wouldn't rub on anything.. Made it super easy for the next time.

@DieselCreek

2 жыл бұрын

Ya, no place to zip tie it to on here

@robertkustos2931

2 жыл бұрын

@@DieselCreek does this machine have glow plugs ? If so I think one turns the key opposite to the on position for a few seconds , then start . Anyway all the best from England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

@Porty1119

Жыл бұрын

​@@robertkustos2931 If I remember correctly, only -W (indirect injection/precombustion) Deutz diesels of this vintage have glow plugs. They're necessary.

With these deutz engines it’s important you keep the cylinders clean. I’ve you have an oil leak dust can fill the ribs on the cylinders!

@auriptide

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, I work for a company that's a dealer for numerous engine MFG's and Deutz is by far the worst engine we work on.

@aluminium3574

2 жыл бұрын

@@auriptide I haven’t had a lot of problems with deutz engines. I’ve you do your maintenance on them. Their pretty reliable!

You had me rolling on the floor laughing about the drop the starter comment. A professional comedian could not have done a better delivery. Had the same thing happen to me more times than I would like to admit. Love your get it done never quit attitude!

@DieselCreek

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@Renville80

9 ай бұрын

@@DieselCreekit could be worse… you could be rebuilding a transmission with the gears sitting on a forklift’s forks (like a mechanic in Illinois…) 😉

I can see the limit switch near the pulley. It's must be bypassed. The engine should shut down immediately when the belt breaks. It's the most important shutdown on Deutz's. I'm a Deutz tech BTW.

@tylergraff4818

6 ай бұрын

That unit doesn’t use a shut off solenoid, it’s fuel shut off is manual. The belt break switch only illuminates a light on the dash on this unit.

@waynegriffiths5143

2 ай бұрын

It could easily be modified to drive a fuel cut off.

Need to try get a second belt on there those fans draw alot of hp. There are 2 temp sensors on all deutz motors. One goes to a hooter and the other goes to your dashboard. You need to make sure that the fins are clean so that there is proper airflow otherwise you get hot spots on the cylinders

@Smokkedandslammed

2 жыл бұрын

This guy deutz for sure

@hansselin9131

2 жыл бұрын

And one sensor are on the belt tensioner.

@jp34604

2 жыл бұрын

Temperature Sensor 01173672 for Deutz 913 912 511 1011 2011

@CAPNMAC82

2 жыл бұрын

@@hansselin9131 And, that's the wrong tensioner--it needs two grooves for the two belts.

@charliehill6914

2 жыл бұрын

We had that engine in an Atlas Copco compressor. If I'm remembering correctly there is supposed to be a sensor on the belt tensioner that shuts the engine down if the belt breaks. Deutz guys correct me if I'm wrong.

Fix the warning light switch on the belt tensioner. Believe me, on those engines it is as important as the oil pressure switch. Ken Wheeler Narrowboat Services, Chester, England

@Sjanzo

2 жыл бұрын

My friends 1958 army water pump with an F4M514 has a belt tensioner kill switch on the fuel pump. If the belt breaks, it shuts off the fuel.

I appreciate your respect for the environment. I feel like most people would have left that oil spill right on the ground

@mdemers767

2 жыл бұрын

Or at least not go to the extra trouble and expense of putting pig mats down around the potential splash zone.

The fact that the previous owner had that starter engine problem and didn't fix it for 11 years, is not exactly advertising for how they maintain their vehicles.

I don't know why i had to laugh when you dropped the starter, and then needed a smaller belt for the fan, but Eva came to mind. I can hear your wife from the video where she said, "you're setting me up for failure.". Then i picture her laughing knowing karma was gonna get you lol. The two of you are hilarious when working together. As a girl myself, i have worked on stuff since i was a kid, because my brother is a couple year's behind me, and most gen x kid's i know were free slave labor. I was also a tv remote, coffee maker, cook, house cleaner, lawn mower, mixed drink maker, along with the repair crew. It made me a hard worker in life, so at 51, i can't complain.

@MGower4465

2 жыл бұрын

That's just a gravity assisted kinetic calibration. Its probably in the manual somewhere.

@Flyanb

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a perfect wife! Your husband is lucky!

The Belts we used to fit on those Deutz, were a twin solid belt, and my boss used to get me to fit a spare one past that coupler and cable tie it to the pump frame and out of the way. so when one failed, another one ready to slip on, tensioner is meant to be twin belt. Also those dash panels are pretty useless, all i used to do is rig up that switch on the tensioner pulley to a car horn, a loud one. makes people look when thats going constant. lights on a dash mean nothing to most operators !!!

@Tom89194

2 жыл бұрын

I love the car horn idea for those Deutz air cooled engines, water cooled engines boil over in a spectacular fashion with a bunch of steam.

@--_DJ_--

2 жыл бұрын

We bought a tracked drill right a few years ago with that setup. It had no safety features at all when we got it so I had to rig one up. I ended up tying that switch into the solenoid for the pump, if the belt broke, it just shut the unit down right then and there. I know the guys who run it, and a light would for sure be ignored. A horn is a good idea though, but I was doing a shutdown system anyways so I just went that route.

@dfross87

2 жыл бұрын

@@--_DJ_-- Definitely a good way to go about it. I've set (some of) our equipment up to shut down on low oil pressure, broken fan belt, and if low coolant level is detected. For starting there's a momentary push-button override.

@onesadtech

2 жыл бұрын

Great ideas in this thread, cheers folks!

I like the way you explain technical things for people who ain´t dealing with heavy equipment.

Nice to see this old gal run so smoothly. I've actually designed some parts for their modern equipment when I worked for BOMAG here in Germany a few years back. But these old machines are just build different. Very good Video. Keep it up 👍

Matt, your Deutz has a switch that will illuminate a light or sound an alarm when the fan belt breaks - you can see the switch that that tensioner pushes on if the belt breaks at around 23:20. Make sure that is working, it's a great indicator that a problem exists before the engine actually gets too hot!! Another thing about these Deutz engines, although they are commonly referred to as air cooled, they also heavily rely on the engine oil for cooling. They have an engine oil cooler that must absolutely be kept clean!!

@robmosher362

2 жыл бұрын

Your right, I missed that switch in the video.

@mikelwhitlock

2 жыл бұрын

I came here as well to point that out

@Gondwana_Goanna

5 ай бұрын

I can attest to that as well. We have an old Deutz 10006 tractor with exactly this same engine, and you gotta make sure the oil cooler is clean (it’s under the unclip and flip out cowling behind the fan), and clean the piston liner cooling fins regularly. Other than that they’re a great economical engine.

Should change out that single pulley for a double belt. Those air cooled fans can put a big load on those belts.

@majesticskeever

2 жыл бұрын

I love putting big loads on my fans

@haphazard1342

2 жыл бұрын

Needs a dual pulley idler wheel on the tensioner.

@StephanePlaisance

Жыл бұрын

Make the 2xpulley bigger in diameter to shorten the belt and avoid friction on the frame

@williamdodd8660

Жыл бұрын

Ford pickups used to use double V-belts on the fan.

I always assume that with any big equipment bought at an auction there’s gonna a be a $600-$1000 initial ‘startup’ cost to fix someone else’s problems they neglected or caused. Glad to see that just an oil change, new filters, starter, alternator and belts plus some wiring made it a workhorse again. Good job👍🏽 *ps. the instructions for dropping the starter on the ground is only applicable to the Limited Edition version 😉

@yoyo762

2 жыл бұрын

Heck, any vehicle at auction will need a grand in repairs at least.

@blackfox2885

Жыл бұрын

@@yoyo762 correct, I'm a LV mechanic and have a customer that buys from auctions all the time. Just finished his last purchase and it ended up costing him about $6k and there was still issues but at least driveable. Not sure what he paid for the car originally but hopefully he got a good deal.

Brings back memories. I was and am a heavy equipment mechanic. I was told by my Dad when I was about 7 to always work on something like you will be the next guy to work on it. That meant lots of grease, anti-seize, and dielectric grease! Real bear to pull a 13spd and dual plate clutch and flywheel to access the backside of a stuck starter bolt! That's why on every truck we got some things had bolts removed one by one and greased! I built and dynoed lots of Diesels and one thing I learned was that being "good" about pre-filled oil filters caused some priming issues because the dry pump after oil change esp. Hot couldn't blow the air through them to prime. So only 1/2 full now. Every time I check oil i put a drop from the dipstick on each battery terminal or starter connection as well. I remember being 19yrs old and driving a smooth drum over 20 mi one day back to the shop. Took almost all day. Fun tho with the variable vibration hitting the harmonics that made kids and water in nearby swimming pools jump! And a dog following his food dish that started walking down the driveway! I stopped that when I saw a picture window on the verge of exploding 50ft away!

@stevedibiase728

Жыл бұрын

Brilliant idea about the drop of oil from dipstick now why didn't i think of that (head slap) at 73 never to old to learn.

Even if you got burned, you're still well ahead with the other purchases. Keep up the content mate.

The visiting bees in the springtime are scouts looking for a site to start a new colony, they often find that small holes / cracks lead into large void spaces (especially in trees and house walls) which are perfect places to start new hives. When an existing hive is ready to swarm (split 50/50), half the hive moves out so these new locations are an absolute necessity.

@ionracer24

2 жыл бұрын

cool

@CAPNMAC82

2 жыл бұрын

There's 20 species of Terrestrial (ground dwelling) bees native to North America (the honey bee is a European import). They spend spring looking for new or larger colony locations just like the European bees do. It's amazing stuff. The scouts are typically just worker bees as are fairly innocuous, we humans are Just In The Way, buzz, buzz, buzz.

Really cool machine and good job fixing it :). I don't know if anyone else pointed it out yet, but around the 21:00 minute mark, when you start the machine, you can see oil squirting out from the hydrolic oil cooler, so I think that's where your leak is located.

@secretninja35

Жыл бұрын

That was water pooled on top. Thing would be dry in 10 seconds if hydraulic leaked that bad

I know it sounds like BS but I swear it's true: wasps *love* the colour yellow (or anything really bright and flower-coloured), and will happily lurk around big old pieces of yellow equipment as a result. So there ya go, that's why they want to be your friend this time of year.

Matt, the thing with the bees, we get here in the UK too, but usually early in Spring. I was told by an environmental scientist that it’s to do with the yellow colour of vehicle which is high up on the bees sight scale as flowers that contain the most pollen are a similar colour. Apparently the reason it happens most in spring is that the bees ‘learn’ that it’s not of any interest to them. Great channel.

@DavidYoungism

2 жыл бұрын

Came to say same thing. Anything painted so it reflects UV light (mostly yellows) tell insects to expect to find food there.

@christopherconrad4156

2 жыл бұрын

Drove yellow delivery truck bees and hornets loved it..

@CAPNMAC82

2 жыл бұрын

We have about 20 different species of terrestrial (ground-dwelling) bees here in North America. They seek out holes to build into nests. That's why the worker bees are always out looking for crevices and the like.

On the fan belt tensioner there is a switch that trips when The belt either comes off or gets too slack. Depending on application it can be wired to either turn on a warning light/buzzer or shut the engine off.

@thehardway406

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, we had a similar situation happen with our Bomag and the operator almost blew up a freshly rebuilt motor. The factory light/ buzzer are not the best on those machines.

I really enjoy watching how you fix the equipment. You explain it so well without swearing and carrying on. It is a breath of fresh air. Plus your ecological. I also like the land you are on.

Diesel Creek: people usually say they can't get back the time looking at a video; but I enjoyed every minute of this video; my father was an iron worker and I used to go on the job and was awed by how they run and the people who ran them. Thanks for the education.

I worked on Bomags professionally for a number of years, and 2 things I spotted right off that are wrong. Belt tensioner pulley is supposed to be a double pulley. Drain pan is on incorrectly. It looks like you have a steering orbit valve leaking as well.

@AsitShouldBe

Жыл бұрын

And why the roller has stucked now? There is a common failure?

@bigsmoke6189

Жыл бұрын

Orbitrol steering units always leak at the shaft when they are left outside with no cover and rust works it's way below the dust seal then the pressure seal.

@Porty1119

Жыл бұрын

​@@bigsmoke6189 Agreed. I just redid the seals on my underground haul truck's orbitrol.

Its a common problem with thode Aircooled Deutz engines that they eat the blowerbelts We have several wheelloaders with smaler Deutz Aircooled engines in it and they all eat up the belts every now and then. Only difference ,they dont wanna run after that happens,a safetyswitch prevents that

@Sjanzo

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, my friends 1958 ex army water pump has that too. You only know if a warning light works, if you dont see a warning when yo do know the engine is in distress... which defeats the purpose of a warning system. If your engine shuts off for no reason, you know its time to fix the safety system, thats ultimate failsafe 😉

Watching this video took me back to my first job maintaining equipment for a construction company. I was19 and no clue what I was doing but learned fast lol. When you were changing those filters I was having flashbacks of dropping filters and taking oil baths haha. Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure we had a Bomag compactor there may be a reason that filter scene gave me flashbacks haha.

ever since i am buying used stuff, even before that, my dad always says, that "when you buy something used, expect to spend money on servicing it straight away" you never know what the previous owners did to it

@williamdodd8660

Жыл бұрын

Good advice.

As a guy that has bought, rehabbed and used or re-sold a bit of equipment myself (tho on a MUCH smaller scale than you!) it does my heart good to see you FIX things whenever possible rather than patch and jury-rig.

Good enough, that seems to be a lot of people's attitude with older equipment. They use it occasionally and let it sit most of the time, so if it will start and do what they want it's good enough. Like you said, it might be overkill for most of your jobs, but when you really need it, it will pay back more than you've invested.

@scottcol23

2 жыл бұрын

seeing as the rental rate at United is $500 a day or $3,700 monthly for a machine that size, you can get the much smaller 47" 9.5 ton bomag for $320 / $2,000 .... id say he is in a win win situation. id be surprised if Matt looses any money on this thing when hes done with it.

@johnkruton9708

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’m thinking of him using it to roller his long driveway.

@CAPNMAC82

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottcol23 especially with the absurd prices /working/equipment is selling for right now.

Had a Duetz on a drill rig I ran. The only way you could get it to start at anything under 40 was some ether. Also, it was fun to tell the new guys to check the coolant on the Duetz.

When a seller says "its been like that for years" you know they went the absolute cheapest for any maintenance on it. If it didn't prevent it from running it probably wasn't done, or a band-aid solution was used.

On these belt driven blower untis its very important so keep the cooling fins of the cylinders clean, and the belt tentioner switch working. Pretty much the only way you can kill one of these engines is heat seizing. One of our customers ran a 4 cylinder 912 Deutz without oil until it seized, started right up after filling it with new oil, piston rings were toast of cause, but he could finish the season of using his mobile aggregation pumping.

Hey ! Hello ! What a nice surprise to see a Sunday video from Diesel Creek! Thumbs UP to you Matt!!

I've been trying to find a padfoot for a while now, youre exactly right when you say the world is crazy. Stupid small junk units are selling for absolute huge amounts. The metal on metal sound could be the cleaning shanks being loose. Also the hydraulic filter could be restricting for the vibrate. There could also be two settings for the vibration, the slow vibrations are good for wet materials, and fast vibrations are good for dry material

Great video Matt! I'm always impressed with your ability to understand and fix problems on practically any piece of equipment. I would have never guessed an engine so powerful could be air-cooled! Very interesting.

Not so much burned as lightly grilled Matt. It hasn’t taken you long to get this machine repaired, serviced and running albeit with a couple of issues still to address. Just highlights your ability to get stuff going. Very enjoyable watching it happen 😊

@DieselCreek

2 жыл бұрын

Just wait it gets worse…..

@juliesoane7399

2 жыл бұрын

I see what you mean! Matt, I am very much an end to end viewer but must have missed this bit today. Can’t wait till the next instalment 🤨

@StofStuiver

2 жыл бұрын

@@DieselCreek I saw at the end bit... Looks like the vibrating shaft (?) locked up the drum? Broken maybe? That happened on the smaller one aswell, right?

@michaeldanielallen

2 жыл бұрын

@@DieselCreek I was thinking you accidently grabbed a hot manifold when I read the title! I think maybe the next video should have had this title if it ended up having issues with the vibratory assembly. This video just showed normal maintenance.

At the 35 minute mark, a diagnostic light bulb went off in my head. As I do nearly all of my property work on my own, there are things I just don't see and hear as the operator of the machine. When you wrote "can't hear that metal on metal sound in person..." I thought "Aha! I should video 30 minutes of hard work and varied movement on each unit". Thanks man! Love to see you work through things and get 'er done!

Such an obscure piece of machinery for most people, but essential for almost all our needs, and infrastructure we use every day; roads, airports, shopping malls, highways, the interstate, railroad beds, ....

It always amazes me how easy it seems to be to get parts for these old machines, it's really good. Is it because the US is so big and loads of people are still using them or are modern machines still using the same parts? great video as usual.

@G33RTJEH

2 жыл бұрын

This is because these 40-50year olds keep running with minimal maintenance and can be serviced by a horse-shoe technician :)

@j.sargent9172

2 жыл бұрын

Both reasons you named, newer stuff uses a lot of the same components and also a lot of people keep older equipment because it runs better, less technology more mechanical, and emissions on the newer shut keep people from buying new stuff. No one wants emissions on equipment, it's terrible for engines

@Iaintwoke

Жыл бұрын

Also those engines were used in so many things for so long there's still loads around...

The ring gear is separate from the flywheel and should be able to heat with a blow torch dropped & flipped. On the F41011F Deutz I had to flip a couple.

@G33RTJEH

2 жыл бұрын

Correct, but getting at the flywheel is not that fun.... I would chamfer the teeth with an angle grinder, and it'll run for another decade

A small plumbing torch with mapp gas is one of my most useful tools - sometimes more useful than oxy-acetylene torch, drill bits, and tap and die sets.

@bills6093

2 жыл бұрын

Those no longer use the original MAPP gas and aren't as hot as they used to be. Those small cylinders are now filled with propylene plus a little propane as a MAPP substitute. True MAPP gas production ended in 2008 in North America,

@AlGoYoSu

2 жыл бұрын

@@bills6093 even still, it burns hotter than just propane. Great for sweating copper among other tasks.

You don't grunt and cuss enough when the job goes bad. It's a great frustration fixer. My grandfather taught me the finer vocabulary needed when I was a kid.

@DieselCreek

2 жыл бұрын

I do in the cameras aren’t around. I try to keep it clean for KZread, I know a lot of people appreciate it

I spent 13 years working in a rebuild shop and one of the first things I learned about starters is the part of the starter that most call a "Bendix" is actually called a drive. In the old days one of the major manufacturers of starter drives was a company called, you guessed it, Bendix. Imagine calling oil filters a fram. It's a very, very common mistake. Also, starter drives only turn one way, when they work correctly. They have sprag bearings inside the bell part to make them work that way. They do that so, obviously they to not turn or slip when the armature is causing them to rotate the flywheel, but they then spin when the engine fires up so the armature is not over rotated and the windings explode before the drive can be withdrawn from the flywheel.

@tuck6464

2 жыл бұрын

I never heard anyone say bendix, without saying bendix drive . Also, I've never actually seen a bad/ replaced a bendix drive. It's always the solenoid or what ever activates the bendix drive that is broke/ bad. Also I've never heard of any other brand of that particular mechanism It would be wild if Bendix never had any competition ,in manufacturing that mechanism..

One of the very best engines, we had a Fahr combine and two Deutz tractors on one of the farms I worked on here in Scotland and all three were the most reliable bits of machinery, they were over 30 years old at the time.

@paulmallery6719

2 жыл бұрын

And easy on fuel

My guess is the tensioner is aftermarket, such a crucial thing for the cooling, the belt should have a backup.

@davidnull5590

2 жыл бұрын

I think the tensioner is original. Look closely, there is also an electrical switch there, that switch is/could be used to alert the operate of a broken belt or even shutoff the engine if the belt breaks.

@SHarris64

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidnull5590 that’s exactly it. The second groove in the flywheel pulley and the blower fan is the backup belt, it doesn’t need to operate the shutdown/indicator switch.

@Thermoelectric7

2 жыл бұрын

@@SHarris64 A backup belt only does you any good if you actually maintain the machine and catch the first belt being broken. Going by the condition this was in, and what other commenters say about maintenance schedules on construction equipment... The switch is the fail safe, the second belt just extends the maintenance interval.

Always remember to de-bounce your starter before installation... There's two types of tensioners for the Deutz fan, one with a single grove, one with a two grove.

@midixiewrecked7011

2 жыл бұрын

Grove????

@cobra02411

2 жыл бұрын

@@midixiewrecked7011 typo... Groove.

@midixiewrecked7011

2 жыл бұрын

@@cobra02411 twice??

@cobra02411

2 жыл бұрын

@@midixiewrecked7011 Yeah, and? I don't know who's worse here, you for being that interested in my spelling mistake or me for continuing to respond to you...

I tighten oil filters by hand...and I tighten slightly more than light pressure...easy on and easy off by hand only. Aircraft oil filters are required to be safety wired to prevent backing off in flight. The aircraft oil filters come with built in small rings to safety wire from. Blue Sky's.

I've seen damage like that from a mismatched pinion to ring gear pitch. I normally say "open a can of worms" but, you have earned the use of "opening sack of snakes (probably poisonous)"

I occasionally use heavy duty aluminum foil as a makeshift custom-sized 'form-a-funnel' for an easy clean-up when finished.

Awesome video. I like the fact that you somewhat explain what and why you are doing things. I'm a trained but novice equipment operator. I will be doing stuff for myself in the future (retired veteran) so I'm looking to learn from others.

My ex wife serviced the heavy equipment where she was employed, but it was just fluids, and visual inspection. And the supervisor.

24:50 i have seen such Bomags, the oil pan is the wrong way around mounted, bolt holes align either way - you should flip it 180 while you drain it after done watching you done did the oil change and i doubt you gonna drain the clean oil out again , catch it in a clean pan and then flip the oil pan, and remount it the right way

That was some mighty fine Appalachian engineering on the old wiring.

@mikes78

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not a wiring perfectionist, more like an amateur hack, but even i was getting a nervous tick looking at the horrible bodge job the previous owners had done on the wiring.

The best execution of a "form-a-funnel" on KZread. Bravo Matt!

Even if you don’t have vibration, it will still be fine for compaction of soil, just keep the lifts really thin and roll the snot out of them. I worked in construction inspection for a number of years, and there were more than a few times when the roller quit vibrating. They were still able to finish the job, but we would make them reduce the lifts down to four or 6 inches and just roll the crap out of them, and that would usually do fine.

Nothing fills me with more confidence about a machine than the guy who ran it for 11 years saying they never changed the starter despite having trouble with it for all those years. Maintenance schmaintenance, am I right?

@mdemers767

2 жыл бұрын

"Pencil Whip" those maintenance issues!

FYI…..I found a solution for keeping bees, hornets etc. from messing with equipment and storage buildings. I buy medicated ear tags from the local ag supply store. I hang them in storage areas and on equipment and they keep those pests away.

@bobd.

2 жыл бұрын

I've been using wasp spray and every Spring I just hit a few spots around the motor or where ever they try to build a nest. That seems to sour the area and they stay away. Mice don't like it much either.

Diesel fumes can confuse bees’ sense of smell, making it harder for them to find food. The nitrous oxide in diesel fumes can chemically alter the compounds within flowers. With their scent changed, flowers are harder to find for the bees, who can then starve.

Head 'em up, move 'em out, Rollin', Rollin', Rollin' !! Good job, Matt !! Thanks for sharing !!

Matt one of the things that fascinate me is your Knowledge of engines and equipment. I can’t imagine many people would know if there was an O-ring missing from the filter. Good luck with the shop Bird

When you fired it up after installing the new starter, I noticed some trash (mouse house) exiting the oil cooler fins. You can't keep a Deutz too clean when it comes to the cylinder fins and oil cooler. I appeciate you taking us along on your projects!

@Irishrebel092

2 жыл бұрын

yeah that deff was water coming out, not trash. you can even see the rust stains on the fins in the same place it comes out.

24:05 The bees are either leaf cutter or mason bees. They go into the holes because they are identifying (or already have) suitable holes to lay their eggs into. They pack the hole with mud, an egg, and a food source for the bee to grow and they put as many egg chambers as they can in the hole they chose.

I had repair manuals on all types of construction equipment of 40 years working on them. When I retired, I gave the manuals to a Library 😁

Yes, not many people know…. But dropping the starter on the ground before install is the best way to seat the new brushes. Well done!

@frankagent7472

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 Walmart service guide rule...

At 20:17 I like the ground strap that appears and disappears from frame to frame. Shhhhh , I won't tell anybody....

@brianworley7705

2 жыл бұрын

I wasn't the only one who noticed it. LOL.

Work for a rental company and all comments are true. we don't service our equipment until it breaks or a customer states that it's not working right

You're not as bad at electric as you believe Matt. You diagnosed the issue(s) correctly, and made upgrades. One thing I've learned in doing this kind of work for 30+ years: you never stop learning. Keep up the good work, and maybe get some wire loom to protect those new wires and neaten it up a bit. Oh, and the newer style solder on terminals with the build in heat shrink are far superior to the stak-on crimp terminals. They will last much longer and not corrode. A bit more expensive, but worth it IMHO.

I've never seen any clickbait videos from you. Your honesty in showing the good and the bad, great repairs and mistakes, is one of the main reasons I watch your channel. NO BS!! As always, thanks for bringing us along! JW

I wish there was a diesel creek video everyday. Can't wait till the next one

"thats great just drop that on the ground" thats soo mood,dude

That is a pretty nice locking compactor you have there! The starter motor on my 1952 Massey Harris tractor does the exact same thing that the one on your compactor did before. I have to agree that it is rather annoying to be trying to start something and all it does is make nasty grinding noises. Great video as usual!

Hey Matt, the tension pulley has a switch, which should be connected to a horn. That should inform you when the belt breaks.

@DieselCreek

2 жыл бұрын

Ya the wiring is a nightmare

@edwardh2444

2 жыл бұрын

@@DieselCreek You do pretty good Matt for a mechanical guy.

@larsandersson4126

2 жыл бұрын

yes we have o horn on our deutz engine to

@CAPNMAC82

2 жыл бұрын

@@DieselCreek Wes would probably agree with you on this one :-)

Starter test drop and the professional funnel system made my day. Thanks Mat, go ahead with this type of videos. Cheers from Argentina.

Nice work Matt! Thanks for sharing!

Your video quality and subject matter and setting and videography are so perfect every time. Just perfection.

Sometimes auction goodies are death by a thousand paper cuts

@808v1

2 жыл бұрын

and/or sometimes you just buy a lemon - the problem then is realizing when to stop trying to fix it.

@GuysPlayingWithTools

2 жыл бұрын

@@808v1 True, but when you have a fair investment it's hard to let go and you can't really pass it on without disclosure that it's a lemon

@GuysPlayingWithTools

2 жыл бұрын

@Al Pha I do a lot of auctions, any city auction usually means buyer beware. If they don't want it, you prolly don't want it either

@emmarandom9609

2 жыл бұрын

@@GuysPlayingWithTools good point, they're not selling it off because it was too good to keep in service.

@GuysPlayingWithTools

2 жыл бұрын

@@emmarandom9609 Yup. I love auctions but I have given up on city auctions.

FYI... dielectric grease does NOT conduct electricity... the word dielectric means insulator. It's main use is to keep water and schmoo away from the conductors (pins) in a connector. The force of the socket against the pin pushes the grease away and creates a good electrical connection. Putting a film of dielectric grease on the starter mount _will_ help prevent corrosion, but will NOT help grounding (the bolts will provide plenty of ground).

@typrus6377

2 жыл бұрын

False. Categorically false. It goes dielectric after it burns. It conducts perfectly well before that. Literally TENS of thousands of connections made personally with dielectric grease and ZERO resistance across the connection say you misunderstand the usage.

@TheCheffydave

2 жыл бұрын

@@typrus6377 Could have said the last 10 words better!😟

@typrus6377

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCheffydave You are right, and I corrected it. I was heated earlier, and I apologize.

@TimIskander

2 жыл бұрын

@@typrus6377 google dielectric grease and read what the mfg data sheets say. I know that for some reason this is an internet hot button, and I am not going to get anyone to admit they were/are mistaken, but truth is truth.

I may be naïve, but it seems to me, that if you want a piece of equipment to be maintained properly, make the maintenance tasks as easy as possible, i.e., easy access to all replaceable filters, not have the oil pan drain discharging over the pumpkin, etc., etc. A lot of the filters on that piece of equipment are just onerous to deal with, and I think the comments below about if the previous owners put up with an iffy starter for 11 years, what else did they not deal with? In spite of all that, Matt, I think you get a great deal of satisfaction in resolving all these issues in the equipment you get, otherwise, you wouldn't keep doing it. I'm with you on electrical problems-hate 'em- and I applaud your perseverance in dealing with them - they should all be so simple as just reconnecting a ground wire!

It’s the yellow color. I have a yellow f-250 I bought from Peter Keweit construction company in 1975 and bees have always been attracted to it. The brighter the yellow, the more attraction to the bees. Now that it’s half rusted out, it doesn’t get as many bees in the summer.

The large Deutz engines I have seen run dual belts - since it is cooling, and force air cooled engines overheat very quickly might be a good investment to sort it out

23:15 I think that a shorter belt would have changed the angle of the belt and would have stopped the rubbing. Just looks like the tensioner is almost at the end of its travel.

@DieselCreek

2 жыл бұрын

Ya I changed it to a smaller one and it’s fine. I know I recorded a clip of that running after changing it again but apparently i forgot to put it in

As a certified electrician I can guarantee you one thing about dielectric grease - it's an insulator, and a very good one at that. It sure won't help you improve the conductivity of your connection, since it's designed to do the opposite of that. If you want good connection, clean the surfaces nicely. Worst case scenario, if nothing else works, you can try the sin of using some conductive grease. Regular grease is also a pretty good insulator as well.

I realy love the way you are dealing with the old machinery. Again a nice clip to watch

That cooler next to the starter has a big hole in it. As you start you can see it puke a little coolant. Even left you a little rust spot. Bees like heat. When you warm a building or machinery it holds heat all night long.

@boudewijnwitvers4006

2 жыл бұрын

It can’t puke coolant there’s only oil in it

That "metal on metal" is vibration... timed exactly with the shaking of the roller frame up and down. Whether you like or dislike it, you are married to it.

@davidnull5590

2 жыл бұрын

Did you watch the last 5 seconds of this video?

Them GM 1wire alternators work on EVERYTHING !!! 👍 We replaced all our drain plugs with a valve.. No more Mess !