You should get a handful of knock off cheap drivers and compare them and see which one is the best for golfing on a tight budget

I think you nailed it at the end, probably not going to see an improvement for you seeing you already smoke the best driver on the market right now. What would be interesting is giving it to a high handicapper and putting it up against whatever he has in his bag and see if he gets a gain 🤔

Hi James, great video. I bought one of those Krank drivers which had similar advertisers claims. It was sold as only for “recreational use”. I have played with it a couple of times and tried it out at my local range. Despite the claims, it is certainly no longer than my current Callaway Rogue Driver. Maybe these things will get out there if club head and ball speeds are around that of the long drive fraternity! Good fun, but didn’t do what it said on the tin.

Thanks for video James, any chance of a review of lynx golf clubs.

I picked this driver up after a car accident effected my game, without draw bias. I needed more forgiveness with the larger head to keep it in the fairway, couldn't hit the middle of the face to save my life - this helped. After several months of physical therapy my swing returned and I abandoned this for the Mizuno JPX900 (smaller 440cc head oddly enough). This is a great example of equipment assisting a poor swing with added forgiveness. Like you said at the end of the video, its for the average golfer that wants to have fun rather than a pro who can swing well consistently already. As in my case, the injured may benefit also.

I actually have one of these James. Used it once, made little difference so threw it in the garage and it’s still there. Good to see Hireko/Nordica on your radar though, my £32 wedges are awesome.

Thanks for the review James, but like most claims of illegal clubs and balls they turn out to be false...

Be interesting with a mid to high handicapper as you hinted that may be tempted to buy it to see if it is straighter?

Hey mate. Loved the review, and yes, that driver is not designed for a player of your standard. I’m a 18 handicapper, and never play comps, only social with my mates. I’ve tried the Sooo Long 650cc for a giggle and we all had a good laugh with it. It was sooo loud. I bought it to try fix my slice and gain some distance. All it did was slice further and sounded like a thunder clap every time I hit it. Turns out my grip was wrong, and after watching a few KZread grip lessons, fixed my slice and gained distance. Funny how the ball goes further in a straight line, running in the fairway. 🤔

James i loved that club when I started golfing. It was a great confidence booster and I did hit it long. I am now a 10 handicap and use a normal driver but I loved that club.

James - put it in the hands of the mark but more importantly a high handicapper ie your swing is going to be more pure!!!!!💪💪💪👍👍👍🙂🙂🙂

Gaz has been struggling with his driver maybe you should let him use it ha ha ha

James looks like you got the Draw model with more offset, I tried the regular model with no real offset but with a closed head face.

Your thinking of Dreadnoughts for battleship. 😂😂

I have that same clubhead but with a 47 inch long Grafalloy Pro Launch Blue shaft and CP2 mid size wrap grip. I built it strictly for fun for me and my buddies to hit on the driving range. I have yet to take it out and try it on the course. I Have a group of friends that play for fun and are not that strict with the rules. It actually helps us keep pace of play. Great video. For the price it held up pretty well.

I think you need to have Mark test this....you’re a stud golfer, probably would make a difference with a mid to high handicap player. Finding the fairway, if it’s really straighter, would be a huge pick up over someone who spins it right/left.

I have an old Golfsmith “1000” cc driver. The shaft is as stiff as a telephone pole. Fun to hit on a driving range every once in a while.

My buddy has this club, I have a terrible slice and I have tried a number of different clubs including the calloway epic , the cobra speed HD, and the behemoth 520cc illegal driver and nothing has helped straighten out my drive . Then I tried this club and WOW this thing has me going straight 90% of the time and increased my distance to 250 on average. I understand it won't help everyone because my buddy can't hit it straight with this club . But if you have a chronic slice its worth $90 to give it a shot . I was amazed!

Ok guys, I ordered a 2017 M1 head and I was hoping to put it on my old shaft that came with my RBZ driver. It doesn't fit.... so now I'm just looking for a good used shaft online. Considering I've never been to a golf shop to test what specific shaft I need, what do you suggest? I know I need x stiff flex but beyond that, I don't know. I hit the ball low and depending on the day it might draw or fade. I know there's more to it than that but just looking for something close to standard that's decent.

I think you mean Dreadnought which was a form of war ship from England in the early 1900's. But we digress and getting back to the driver, and older friend of mine in his mid 70's uses something like that illegal which keeps him in the fairway more often and somewhat farther than a regular driver, he plays for pleasure and to keep active at his age. I think that there is a place for most clubs of all kinds, here and or there.

Last week I played with a guy that has a Juggernaut. He even added a 3’ extension. He’s a 15-20 handicapper and he bought it because the other 3 guys in his group were always hitting it 10-15 yards past him. I hit it a couple of times, and was able to get another 15 yards out of it. On a par 4 I hit my Maverick driver 260 and the Juggernaught ~275. I did swing slowly because 1) the damn thing is 52” long, and 2) it had a senior shaft in it. Hit it twice more and blocked one drive average length and on the 3rd I hit a looong drive, but a bit right, all three hits were in play. To me it is a novelty. I’m a bit of a purist, but part of me wants to get one to see if I can consistently hit it long and straight.

I use Karma grips, internet version of Lamkin...... the ones you had looked like Golf Pride tour velvet

I have a M5 and I wouldn't trade it for any other driver on the market, legal or illegal. I'm a 82-90 golfer so I'm not great but I hit my M5 straight and on average 250. My home course has 11 doglegs so you need to hit it straight to get in position to reach the green in regulation. I agree with some of the other comments to review the driver heads that are commonly used on the Long Drive tour.

Play a round with a set of illegal clubs against someone with legal clubs

I can't wait to see how Mark does with it! It might be directed to mid to high handicappers though. I hope Mark sees a difference or else thats 169.00 down the drain lol

I have one with an AccuFlex shaft finished to 47.75 inches.The grip is Boccieri, 92-gram back-weighted. I use this driver with 20 compression Wilson Staff Duo balls because the COR is non-conforming as well. With this club I drive the ball between 270-290. I'm 70 years old. My golfing buddies are way behind me and dumbfounded. The good news is they never ask to examine my driver. In our weekly twilight league and other sanctioned club events, I use a conforming Boccieri Heavy Driver head (460cc) with an AccuFlex Assassin shaft (48 inches) and a Boccieri back-weighted grip. Honestly, I hit the ball nearly as far with comparable control. The Boccieri driver head is unbelievable. Too bad that Steven Boccieri is out of business.

It's not cheating if you are only out there to have fun. It's only cheating if you are agreeing to play by USGA rules in competition. Personal competition can be whatever rules you want/agree to

James it's like swinging a dustbin lid at the ball. 😀

Karma grips are actually a normal grip brand just a little cheaper than winn. My friends dad only plays them. Says they're soft on top like a winn but firm underneath. At least on the dritec style and not the tour velvet style they have.

I took a friend out who has never played golf before.....!!!! He got a Birdie on a 113 yard hole on a par 3 course...!!! As a reward I gave him a Dunlop 515cc Driver..!!!! I brought it, but never used it, so I thought it would be good for him as a training aid on a 485 yard Par 5 hole...!!!!! First time out left him buzzing..!!!! I'm looking forward to him getting out on a long course...!!!! I'll allow him a 515cc Driver to get him ready for the 460cc Driver and give him the beginners advantage...!!!!! My Friend Is Now Hooked On Golf And Can't Wait For His Next 18 Holes...!!!!!! #GolfAddicts...💯🚩🤣🚩🙂💯👏👏👏

I bought a used 10 dollar Wilson Titanium driver and absolutely love it. What does that have to do with anything? Why did I say that? I don't know.

What about one of those KRANK drivers, I think those are still around on WLD.

Juggernaut? Named after my mate who is also 'over' sized!

Any planned Wilson testing James ? D7 driver and Cortex are supposed to be very comparable to the big 4 brands. Also the new blades are gorgeous and the irons are great to. Would love your feedback on them. Also Benross,MacGregor,Lynx etc .

@JamesRobinsonGolf

5 жыл бұрын

I would mate but they ignore all my e-mails and messages

Try using the same type shaft in each club head. The shaft in the TM is most likely a high tech, expensive shaft. The shaft in the Juggernaut is a very inexpensive shaft. It would be interesting to see if it makes a difference.

Love my karma grips. They’re knockoffs pride grips but they feel great for half the price.

Certainly cheaper then the newest drivers but picking up a clearance or used newer driver might be a better option for most. Personally I would not use that non-conforming driver. I do however use my Cleveland wedges with “ZIP” grooves. I am not sure they are legal anymore.

I have a used m1 and I painted it because the weights keep sliding around and it’s scratched really badly. I wonder if it’s illegal because I sanded it and painted it lol

Good review on an illegal driver,I couldn’t see myself using though to be honest Now you need to hand it over to Mark to demo

Before the limitations on head size and COR, I had a 505cc driver made for me by an online club builder that used "component" heads (non big-name brand/knockoffs). Longer into the woods. Longer into the lake. If you're not playing for handicap, or competing in any way, use whatever you like.

@JamesRobinsonGolf

5 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@joeperez3520

5 жыл бұрын

@@JamesRobinsonGolf 12 years old and interested to a degree in golf, my first "club" was a hand-held weed-whacker, and the first ball, a tennis ball that I ended up "shaving" all the fuzz off of after my first "round." The hole was one that I dug in the dirt driveway.

I'd be curious to see how the Juggernaught performed when hit by your mid-handicap tester. A guy with a good swing (or pro swing) is going to be helped far less with a shorter club with bigger head. Bring Mark in for the job!

The name comes from an X-Men character that used his head as a battering ram.

Hi James. Nice video. It's not cheating. 😂😎🤗⛳

You are right: the Juggernaut is NOT made for a golfer of your skill level and strength. Note the backspin rate. It is designed for the low club-head speed golfer who has trouble finding the center of the club-face. Period. As for the 'morality' of playing a non-conforming club? The mealy-mouthed purists/moralists need to just BITE me! As long as one does not keep or publish a score, he's NOT cheating - even himself!

@kwacker45

5 жыл бұрын

Agree 100%

@mytube411

4 жыл бұрын

As a fitter who has sold hundreds of these Juggernaut drivers, I can tell you that your assumption about it being designed for slower swingers or less skilled golfers is completely wrong. It is actually a very low-launching, low-spinning head, in fact it's one of the lowest spinning heads I have ever hit. The reason for the higher launch and spin rate in this video is that he's using an Acer Velocity shaft which has a very soft tip and plays almost a full flex softer than the listed flex (stiff CPM is only 245 which is 10-15 lower than most stiff shafts). Also, this driver is a 10.5 where I imagine the M5 is probably set at 9.5 for his swing speed, and it's still only launching 0.7° higher and spinning 300rpm more. The fact that it performed that close to the M5, which is a $500 driver which likely has a $100-$200 shaft in it, while using a crappy $15 shaft that is poorly fitted to his swing says a lot. He needs to swap it out with a properly fitted shaft (ideally the same shaft in his M5) and try it again, I guarantee the results will be a LOT different!

@mytube411

4 жыл бұрын

It's also worth noting that he's hitting the "draw" version with offset rather than the standard version with no offset. And his M5 doesn't have any offset, so he should have done a comparison with the non-offset model.

@granty1954

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly a too 'flippant' review. I've the Juggernaut hollow irons and they are comfortably equal to anything out there ANYTHING!

Juggernaut, it's a truck 😁

If you get sponsored buy them they "might" send you a club with the flex actually Painted on the shaft... 😀😀

@enfynet

5 жыл бұрын

mpc77769 the $10 velocity shafts are dual flex based on trimming. The flex won’t be printed on them.

Give it to Liam at #golfvlogsUK see his reaction 👍

@JamesRobinsonGolf

5 жыл бұрын

💯

I wouldnt play it, because id feel wrong using it. I dont play in competitions but i do have a handicap. Interesting about the offset though, now that could be a game changer for me as i tend to have a problem with an open face at impact.

I have this driver and its quite good. for me its longer with less effort. very good club for seinors looking to get some lost yards back.

Why don’t you get any roll on the launch monitor? I have noticed that with all your videos.

I've never seen a driver with this much offset

@mytube411

4 жыл бұрын

This is the "draw" model which intentionally has a lot of offset to help people who struggle with a slice. He mentioned that his natural ball flight is a draw, so I'm confused why he would have purchased the offset model rather than the standard one which has no offset.

The same driver is available as non offset.

Whats the difference between an amateur using this compared to a metal bat in baseball? When you go out and play in the office baseball game do you adhere to MLB rules?

No i would not use it, im waiting for the 1000cc head lol.

I still gave my 500cc biggest big bertha. I bought it only for it to be made illegal 3 months later grrrrrr

I suspect this club is designed for slower swing speeds and shorter hitters. I would think you’d tend to balloon the ball with this club.

6:57 mark...insert "That's what she said" joke

@JamesRobinsonGolf

5 жыл бұрын

Always

I have a 520cc driver called "Green Monster", the ball flies off that thing.

Looking forward to seeing it in the hands of a mid handicap golfer

If you want a good illegal driver do what I do get some shaft glue and glue wheel weights on the bottom rear of the driver as weight low and at the back helps with MOI. It looks much better than lead tape and you can paint the weights the same colour as your driver.

I'll only take it out on the 13th hole .... "longest drive" competition..

Wonder how long a good club manufacturer could make a golf ball go and what materials they would use

@njamesthomasl

5 жыл бұрын

Taylormade MOAD

So you compared a driver with a low-end $13 high-launch/high-spin shaft (Acer Velocity), to one with what looks like a hihg-end $250 low-launch/low-spin HAZRDUS Smoke shaft? Try putting the same shaft in both heads and try compare them again. I put one of these up against a Krank Formula X, with the same shaft and same loft in both, and the Juggernaut was a good 30 yards longer with better ball speed, launch, and spin numbers.

James, much as I'm sceptical about many of these "specialty clubs"? Was this a true comparison? As someone else has said, is it the same loft as your Taylor Made? Also, what difference will the shaft length make?

@JamesRobinsonGolf

5 жыл бұрын

Shaft length exactly the same and loft the only loft offered in the club John. As “true” as I can make it.

@jleonard711a

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesRobinsonGolf Except for the fact that the shafts are about as different as can be - one is a cheap $15 high-launch/high-spin budget combo-flex shaft, and the other is what looks like a $250 low-launch/low-spin HZRDUS Smoke shaft. How can it possibly be a "true" comparison when the shafts are massively different?

Juggernaut should be called illegally short.

To tell you the truth James it looked like you were swing the M5, harder than you were the Juggernaut.

@ayarzeev8237

5 жыл бұрын

You are correct, the average was 1 mph more for clubhead speed

@JamesRobinsonGolf

5 жыл бұрын

I was trying to swing them exactly the same, otherwise the whole video would be redundant I would have wasted 6 hours of my life lol. Swing speed will be down due to the mass of the head

@ayarzeev8237

5 жыл бұрын

@@JamesRobinsonGolf you did a very good job, 1 mph isn't going to make that big of difference. Keep making high quality content :)

@mytube411

4 жыл бұрын

@@JamesRobinsonGolf The head being 515cc doesn't mean it has more mass, just means it has more volume. But the actual mass (weight) of the head is 200g which is exactly what most drivers are (heads tend to range from 195-205).

i don't understand, how do you only get like 3 yards of roll on all your drives?

@johnp8131

5 жыл бұрын

I agree, please clarify?

@JamesRobinsonGolf

5 жыл бұрын

It’s always been the same. I generally just work on carry numbers as no launch monitor can truly predict roll

Juggernaut is a Marvel comic book character

You know with armatures does it really matter if we conform with pga regulations it’s not like we are going to play in competition every week armatures are lucky to play 3 times a month now i don’t think it should matter if we don’t use the same things the pros use that’s just my opinion

I’m still laughing. You really didn’t hit it further than your normal driver.

That looks obnoxiously huge and ridiculous. I would love to give that a hit ahahaha

Juggernaut is another term for an articulated or huge truck!

Jugernaught was a battle ship, also a film with richard Harris on a cruise liner, and 'used' to be a term given to the larger trucks.

There are enough decent drivers out there to fit everyone these days ,I dont think there is much use or need for it.

Also, isn't the legal COR .0830?

Just goes to show you cannot believe everything companies sell.

It did look like you were swinging the M-5 harder.

I have this club with a better quality shaft. its longer than normal . there is also a non offset model . it will add 10-15 yards to a mid-high handicapper.

My name is George ok what is the website for this driver golf club

Hey I’ve built a few of those 😎

@enfynet

5 жыл бұрын

You probably should have upgraded the shaft to match the M5

If it helps you hit the middle of the club face more, then it obviously will help.

Is there a rule about how long the shaft of driver can be?

@mikebest634

5 жыл бұрын

Yes , 48 inches max on golf shaft ,for proper golf and long drive .

Did I see that 2nd to last m5 hit right? 6,000 spin with the weights forward!?!

No. I have a GBB Epic, and a 2014 Big Bertha for a backup. I use the Fubuki shaft from the 2014 BB in the Epic because there is something about the way the two work together as opposed to the stock shaft the GBB Epic came with. I also have an extra Fubuki I bought from Callaway just in case the unthinkable happens. Both are excellent drivers. The 2014 is in 9/10 condition and so could go back in the bag if needed and the club is very forgiving. I don't see where I'd use an illegal driver. I'm a mid-high handicap player. Git gud.

@pgmuhammadpghjdamit8188

5 жыл бұрын

Its not about the driver or the club itself..Its depending on how you do the correct and right swing to release the club :)

Even though I don't think I will ever get into a competition I still want to use a legal club.

@oldguyrulesweyerman6955

5 жыл бұрын

There fore I picked up a driver from my boss, it was dirt cheap with bag thrown in. Its the Calaway FT-i is it legal? Everyone I golf with says it's not, so I just play around with it on the range. Any insight on it I've searched on the internet but not asking the right question I guess. Thanks

Really never used Karma grips ? Been around forever in the US ( home of golf ha ha )

Callaway ERC

Well i scooped on up.. I'm a mid handicapper.. Should be fun.. 119$ in the states so why not

The biggest take away is you got almost identical performance out of a 160$ driver vs a 500$ one. Big brands charge you for the name nothing more.

thanks James but whats the point of it ?

@JamesRobinsonGolf

5 жыл бұрын

Fun Mark :)

Name is George again sir is there 3 different types of krank driver heads sir

bigger club slower swing speed.

If you dont want it send it to me

Dreadnought is the battleship term. It also is a large acoustic guitar.

I play with guys that hit 3 balls OB off the tee, then 2-putt and mark down par. "Cheating" seems to be subjective. Its your scorecard, do what you want.

Juggernaut: noun (often lowercase) any large, overpowering, destructive force or object, as war, a giant battleship, or a powerful football team. (often lowercase) anything requiring blind devotion or cruel sacrifice. Also called Jagannath. an idol of Krishna, at Puri in Odisha, India, annually drawn on an enormous cart under whose wheels devotees are said to have thrown themselves to be crushed.

Yeah, now try it with a guy that plays a couple of times a year and trying to work out a slice with a 20 year old driver.

juggernaut : is basically an unstoppable force or object of any kind. i'm certain you've completely missed the point. the average weekend warrior doesn't hit a 270 drive, doesn't have the tm m-5, and he doesn't have his own indoor range. in fact - everyone here knows that playing under 90 is not the norm for the masses at your average golf course. if you want to see a REAL result - give the club to some average guy who drives the ball about 200 yards with an 18 handicap and see if it improves his distance and accuracy.

*Puts the weights all the way forward in his m5 to get the most distance out of it

@JamesRobinsonGolf

5 жыл бұрын

*if the 515cc had weights to put forward I would have done the same... but it doesn’t and that’s how I’m gaming the m5 atm. Why not use the technology it offers?

I wouldn’t use it