By popular demand, here's the link to my MaA Spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DNpP5ZD-PZQ6ysMlAbuDXlkLMCoIuqDBIdg7BPDmTPo/edit?usp=sharing

@nicholis95

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for all your content I really do appreciate the amount of time you invest into creating quality videos.

@blastedtheking813

Жыл бұрын

Wait does the spreadsheet take the regiment size into account or is it just cost to dmg

@weasel9498

Жыл бұрын

Could you check some type of playtrough with Raska in 867 or something, you literally have 2, 3 mines available in your starting positions

@martinnimcevic565

Жыл бұрын

​@@weasel9498 One cant be built until the third era though

@martinnimcevic565

Жыл бұрын

​@@blastedtheking813 yes

I love how the premise is cost effectiveness when in reality in the last period of the game. No matter what you'll have more money than you can possibly spend so there is no reason to not stack damage with the more expensive units.

@thibeaultdemulder8422

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention that all the buildings are multiplicative modifier’s, so higher damage maa are much more cost effective for the building build cost.

@GewalfofWivia

Жыл бұрын

All my MaA are free to maintain and 1/10 of the cost to recruit at year 1100. I don’t even know what modifiers I stacked aside from Easter Roman Legacy and a bunch of Regimental Grounds which still can’t explain the free recruitment.

@Bolano75

Жыл бұрын

How did he get to 20k gold so quickly? That's what I missed. Is it a Tours and Tournaments thing? I'm playing vanilla on Xbox (when it's not crashing every other month) and I can't get anywhere near that figure by that timeframe.

@erebus1892

Жыл бұрын

@@Bolano75 I know that with T&T came the taxation tour, which gives a lot of gold, especially when you have a large realm. But otherwise, Zieley afaik min maxes his economy buildings (incl. Duchy buildings), uses characters with high stewardship to have more holdings (counties and baronies), and restricts himself to having holdings within his two duchies to gain the maximum benefits. There is probably more, although I can't think off the top of my head. A number of elements of this are still possible with vanilla however.

@linleesin

7 ай бұрын

The problem with his calculation is that he forgot to multiply the base damage by the number of units at each MaA level. For example, the Heavy Cavalry deals 100 damage, but only 50 units per level, for a total of 5000 damage to that MaA. While Heavy Infantry has 32 Damage, but has a total of 100 units, totaling 3200 Damage. This way, his calculation would only be correct if he calculated the Total Damage and Toughness, and not just the Unit value. Why Toughness? Because there are troops that serve as punching bags for other troops to use as damage. Knights have no Toughness, and only occupy 1 unit slot, if you have more units for your knights to take less damage, it is much better, protecting them from being wounded or even killed. Therefore, there are MaA that are more focused on dealing damage, some are more hybrid and others are more focused on taking damage. Remembering that here we are removing 100% of the land bonus, and also the Climatic Period of war, as this would certainly increase even more how much better or worse each MaA is.

Zieley is going hard on the spreadsheet

@fuadlabib703

Жыл бұрын

The hand to Laith spreadsheet shall spREAD

@Fabio-bu9bp

Жыл бұрын

This is why I love Zieley. So practical and clever

@EinFelsbrocken

Жыл бұрын

Mfw Zieley spreads all over the sheets 🥵🥵🥵

Came across your channel the other day. Absolutely FANTASTIC CK3 content, easily the best on the platform. You, my dude, are hilarious. Keep it coming

@Dan-pm4hd

Жыл бұрын

yup, not sure how he is not more popular

@Weiswolfe

Жыл бұрын

@@Dan-pm4hd cause CK3 is a nitch in terms of game popularity of what i can see

Fun fact: they added A LOT of new mines and buildings across the map without even telling us😁 Check the “economy” map mode before starting your next game. But the duchy with Nalanda and Mahabodhi is still the most op)))

@weasel9498

Жыл бұрын

Actually i get the impression Balkans is now better due to how close there are mines in vicinity, like 4 or 5

@nikolaitregouet

Жыл бұрын

@@weasel9498 yeah, time to make Slavia😍 The biggest empire in the game! Although I still love starting as Dyre or in Bohemia (also has a mine). And in Sardinia there are now 2 castles in the capital barony. 1 w the mine and 1 regular😁😁😁

@baron.7284

Жыл бұрын

You should try to capture one or (later in the game) two mines anyways as they give a huge bonus to Siege weapons stationed there.

@thisonebladessilent1799

Жыл бұрын

And how do you do that on console???

@nickjones1609

Жыл бұрын

@@nikolaitregouet Slavia is bigger than tibet???

A strategy I loved to use to break longbows pre 1.9 was merging Welsh with Nubian to get Land of the Bow, grabbing forest folk and heading up to Novgorod. Land of the Bow gives hunting grounds archer damage and Forest Folk does the same but with Forestry buildings. This probably still works post 1.9, haven't tested it though. Edit: Yeah, the triple dip strategy works even better with this. Forest folk and hunting grounds give 5% per level, stack that with militia camps and the archer duchy building for total stackwiping power. I'm sitting at a whopping +630% stationed holding buff and 354 damage longbows in my capital county.

@milo36gdh

Жыл бұрын

Might be a bit weaker if they haven't tweaked land of the bow extra dmg from hunting grounds :( It's on my to do list to check with getting a crossbowmen accolade in tribal era (han courtier with aggressive attacker if I remember correctly)

Anyone else think they ended up making the game easier with Tourns and tournaments 😅

@justinpayne2654

Жыл бұрын

100% it's easier. Love the roleplay elements of ToT, but it's really put the game on easy mode in terms of strategy. Of course, it's made it easy mode for the CPU too, so it's led to some interesting scenarios like no mercenaries being available in the late game because they're all always rented out due to everyone being flush with cash...

@weasel9498

Жыл бұрын

@@justinpayne2654 Whats the best strategy to focus on 876 start date? Focus on research for extra building slot, build your domain limit and usually whats best combination of buildings for castles? 2 eco 2 military?

@danieljung5862

Жыл бұрын

It's become so easy, it is a joke! Have you noticed the new heavy cavs? They are special like the houseguard, but as strong as knights! I managed to get their power up to 1500 and their defense to 500! In defense they are as strong as a 50 prowess knight and you have 300 of them! Absolutely bonkers!

@blackcitadel9

Жыл бұрын

I dunno how hard or easy the game is really. I don't have the depth of experience you guys have I'm afraid, so I don't know how certain things work, or how to use some things to their fullest. I've watched people take on massive armies many times their size with T&T (and even before) but I still am not able to bait enemies to fight where I want and things like that. I can still win wars or take over massive swathes of land. I usually can avoid succession crises and keep everything together, but I can't pull off crazy development rushes or make oodles of gold or make stack wiping monster armies. I guess I just have to keep learning.

@weasel9498

Жыл бұрын

@@danieljung5862 where do you get those?

I did this but in france with heavy cav for a roleplay. It was glorious. I just wish there were more reasons to go to war besides grabbing more land.

@luisricardolozadaamaya670

Жыл бұрын

If your faith has human sacrifice you can declare war to "raid for captives"

@joshuatoland4228

Жыл бұрын

Yes! I want wars of vengeance. My heir is assassinated by the Fatamids and I can’t invade full force? Come on

@EinFelsbrocken

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuatoland4228 If they balance intrigue around this; it could be fun. Greater base chance for plots; but heavier repercussions when successful.

@ryokiritani4187

Жыл бұрын

​@@EinFelsbrocken killing someone is easy. The hard part comes with the angry families.

@philkim8297

6 ай бұрын

​@joshuatoland4228 there is a mod called rescue and vengeance that allows you to do just that

I've been messing around with the tournaments a bit and I think the reason you won all those recitals with a pretty low chance is that the chance is actually relative to all the other contestants in the tournament. So if there are like 5 people in the recital than that 25% you have is actually added with the chances from the other 4 contestants - so you might have 25%, and the next guy 20%, and ect ect adding up to 100%. In that case 25% may seem like a low chance but its actually the highest out of the contestants, so you end up winning more often then not. I've won recitals now where I only had, like, an 11% chance - just because there were so many other contestants. Seems to be the same for archery contests and really any contest where you have multiple characters competing at once rather than one-on-one competitions

@johanneswitt5499

Жыл бұрын

Makes sense. Not only the player is enslaved by RNG but the AI too

@Zieley

Жыл бұрын

This makes the most sense to me. I had noticed it for the archery contests as well

@betoh7140

Жыл бұрын

That's not quite how probability works, but sure

@PhelanVanFloof

Жыл бұрын

Others having relatively lower chances doesn't change your own chance of winning. You could have 25% chance alongside 750 dudes with 0.1% chance, but you should still only win 1 out of every 4 times if these numbers are actually showing the real values.

@lucasdwright

Жыл бұрын

@@betoh7140 amazingly over 75 people liked his comment...

The county of Glouchester is by far the best county to hold for an English playthrough because they have forest terrain which helps buff Archers, it’s coastal so you can build 2 different mills building and a tradeport

One thing to remember when starting a game as Alfred. You start with a claim on London, so as soon as your brother hands it off you can go to war for it from your fellow vassal.

always love the peaceful openings you do. very pleasant for some reason

You're becoming one of my favorite CK3 creators! great job man, keep it up

zieley, the trebuchets are one of the best unlocks now cause the building it unlocks along with the longbowmen just leads to absolute chaos

Why are the Anglo-Saxons lacking the Longbow tradition?

I’ve done this with heavy cav. Reached almost 400 damage on two units, and making super op siege units and when I reached bombards you can do a whopping 71 siege tick! I started playing as count Werner Habsburg and ended up creating the Roman Empire in 1300 on Ironman mode which I have never done before. You can conquer the world because of this new dlc.

I have found that Just is really no big deal for Intrigue characters. Since you're so great at rooting out secrets, you can just rat out all of your neighbors' sins for instant huge stress relief. Keep a few secrets in your pocket and then drop them before/after a big scheme.

You can form the english culture, which also has the longbowmen innovation in 867 start date by being the ruler of england and having a frankish heritage culture.

@keyos4398

Жыл бұрын

The english lose Herds which is kinda sad so i rather make my own Culture

@Kelso540

Жыл бұрын

@@keyos4398 Herds is terribad IMO; the hit to Cultural Fascination is brutal.

@mussyeg

Жыл бұрын

im pretty sure you can reform anglo saxon and add longbowman

@keyos4398

Жыл бұрын

@@Kelso540 its a big hit but you get the best Units in the Game. Besides the Konni in my opinion And if you keep the Culture small i your High development area lessen the Penalty

@keyos4398

Жыл бұрын

@@mussyeg Yeah thats how i do it most times

Really love the direction you've taken your videos, bought the DLC using your link as a way to pay back. Keep up the good work!

Seeing the MASSIVE bonuses to the Longbowmen from this video reminds me of the_miracle_aligner's Old English cover of Pumped Up Kicks. "Sċulon betera rinnen, cwicra þon mín boga" indeed. Thanks for sharing this project with us, hopefully we will make good use of the lessons learned here!

Those Watermills are insane. In my Empire of Tibet I decided to settle the western Ganges area for my capital Duchy. In holdings without Watermills the level 7 buildings will cost you upwards of 1200 gold, but where there's Watermills all around... 98-130 gold 0.0 Also, they could've renamed Elephant Cavalry to "Tanks with Tusks" with the bonus stacking. 100 of them just melts everything.

Seeing Metsänvartija being near the top of the chart is some nice validation to my experience. They always seem so smash when stacked.

@PuskasMarton

Жыл бұрын

Having +10 damage in taiga/forest is what makes them great, having pursuit is what makes stacking them and only them a viable strat.

Nothing makes me happier than seeing an hour long Zieley video

I have followed u for a while now, and let me say huge progress with the video quality, keep up the goodd work :)

As a diehard Slav player, the new mechanics with Konni raiders is amazing. I used Stables, Jousting Training, Hillside Grazing, etc. And had my Konni doing so much damage they would wipe out armies 50% larger than them.

@PuskasMarton

Жыл бұрын

They are also meat grinders with that 60 base pursuit. You only need to win once.

@matheusexpedito4577

7 ай бұрын

​@@PuskasMartonthe equivalent of medieval wood chipper

I love that Earl Uhtred is leader of Lunden, just like he is in the Saxon Series books and the TV show the Last Kingdom. That is definitely a shout out by the devs

@philkim8297

6 ай бұрын

Is it really?! That's awesome. I've been binge listening to the audiobooks

I don’t play CK3, don’t know how it works, and don’t plan on playing myself. You randomly popped up in my recommended. But I’ve been enjoying binging your vids, very relaxing :) I’m in the last few weeks before getting my Bachelor’s and having your videos play in the background while I study is the best 🫶 thank you! Super entertaining and great editing

Really broken method to destress yourself as just/honest characters: expose secrets you know

One of the first things I tried when this DLC dropped was give a retry to the good old Madurai only tall game, by the time I stopped playing I remember having 1.6k damage elephants stationed in the one jungle tile Madurai gets. Men at arms can get absurdly strong with these new buildings.

The really weird thing about CK3 is making out as if elephants were a great military unit. They probably were in India, sure. War elephants have been useful, but historically easily countered once their opponents have met them more than once. Also, they rampage and wreck your own lines half the time.

@caesarg.9270

Жыл бұрын

In CK3 only Indian cultures normally have access to War Elephants and afaik the buildings that buff them are mostly only buildable in India so I don't think there's anything weird with that. As for their historical effectiveness, it's really not fair to say they're "easily countered" if you're primarily basing it on western/middle eastern history. There is a significant difference between Indian kingdoms' use of war elephants vs. powers like Carthage and Persia. Not only did the Indians have way more elephants, the fact that elephants are more integral to their military doctrine means they'll have more infrastructure and support units to support the war elephants. Not to mention the different terrains would hugely impact what units would be more effective.

Love you content been in the hospital and its helped keep me grounded. Got a friends labtop showing up tomorrow cant wait for a new campaign tomorrow.

Can we see a playthrough where you rush ALL of Britannia to 100 developement as fast as possible? Any start

Hi Zieley new sub, recommended brought me to a older vid (playing tall to world conquer the world ck3) and really enjoy your content keep it up

I feel like it’s German panzer Devisions disguised as bowmen

Gymnopedie. Good pick for the music. I’ve tripped on lsd listening to this song on repeat

Zieley - "I just figured where all the fun from this DLC is going to come from ..... TAXES!

@katanah3195

Жыл бұрын

Ahh, Paradox games. The only time taxes are fun.

Another great vid from old mate Zieley ❤ cheers for all the great content

Holy shit that is so epic. I gotta admit I didn’t really understand how stationed units worked until watching video. Can always rely on the GOAT to bring the wisdom. Excited to do a new game now :S

One could even say that Alfred is great.

I'm pretty sure the "Progress to victory" bar is just added to your roll at the end of the event stage, because I usually have ~40-50% progress to victory in either the melee or recitals yet end up winning more often than not. That said, I have had times where I was at 90% progress to victory in duels or wrestling and still been eliminated. So if I rolled badly on the final check, and the opponent rolled well, I think it compares them after that and spits out victory/defeat.

Finally! I play your videos on my 2nd screen during ck3 games :)

I love you zieley and your vids, always and forever.

Stacking modifiers for siege units is insane bro try it out. With canons you can bring down a county in literally 3 days, it was insane.

Best Ck3 youtuber without a doubt. Keen to watch

honestly your content is so entertaining CK3 can be really slow and boring to spectate but these literally make me lmao

At the end there it must have been like your longbowmen having machine guns 🤣

24:12 I was thinking he was going to pull a full Henry VIII early here with another divorce or killing her off after showing off his lack of sons 😅😂

I love how even when you have thousands of ducats you still go for construction cost bonus 😂

@mortache

Жыл бұрын

Because it also affects vassals and even barons

Ah yes, Crusader Kings. Where you kill stuff to get rid of the stress of killing stuff.

@katanah3195

Жыл бұрын

But it's different, during a hunt animals are stuff you're *allowed* to kill.

@Amyante

Жыл бұрын

That's not what my Spymaster said...

Siena has a special university, giving more dev growth without any dev requirement. You might want to check it out. Great video, as always.

A much lower-stress way to regain your counties is flip to Norse - Ango-Saxons don't start with the tech allowing title revocation; however, the Norse do. Plus, if you want to form English with Alfred you'll need to flip to Norse then Norman --> English anyway. And the counties your brother grants away give you a claim by default. tl;dr - Flip to Norse and just revoke the counties.

23:07 HE CAN’T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!!! 😂😂😂

Bro u had me at "as soon as you click off this to start a gane as the might welsh" Lmao i waa literally thinking that

Yeah its insane. Got 250 Dmg with Heavy Riders in a really early stage. I am exited now for your Video!

Im glad im able to watch hour long videos bc i know some people can barely watch a 10 minute video

nice reload for the culture formation xD

The most dangerous troop types to fight against are usually heavy footmen, heavy cavalry and mounted archers, all of which get countered by Crossbowmen, which is why they probably are the unit with the most bang for your bucks.

You should try only using one men-at-arms regiment for the whole game, but you stack bonuses as much as possible.

Knights are the real deal this patch. I did the ultimate culture with Norse, Anglo-Saxon and French plus Only the Strong. You can hold 3 duchy titles to have 3 Military Academies and maxed out Blacksmiths around all baronies, on top of that, go direct to Graceful Aging in the Dynasty Legacy, getting 2º Legacy from Glory and 3º Legacy from Warfare is pretty good as well. Try to get the Accolades: Mentor, Blademaster and House Paragon (4º Legacy from Kin) and, last but not least, research Knighthood, of course. Now you have the most powerful House of Warriors. All my wars were done with full Huscarls as well, so I don't know if the Knights by itself were insane OP.

I wish that Paradox remodels the baronies, I would love to see province slowly fill with buildings, towers and crop fields

@brucesim2003

Жыл бұрын

Search the workshop for a mod called 'Holding Sprawl'. I think you'll like the results.

@MichusubPl

Жыл бұрын

@@brucesim2003 you need dlcs for it to work

@brucesim2003

Жыл бұрын

@@MichusubPl Ah ok. I have them, so I never noticed.

Darling, wake up! Zieley have posted a new video! The husband: HELL YEAH

It doesn't look like you've accounted for unit size which is a shame as that inflates heavy can figures although >I could be wrong as i can't download a copy on my device, I can check later on PC. Considering its not that difficult to max maintenance reduction and maximise gold, it would be good to see what is best overall - especially considering the role toughness plays in the fights.

@martinnimcevic565

Жыл бұрын

Damage is much more important if you have a decend amount of levies that will soak up most of the damahćge.

Ngl was a little disappointed you didn't use a Geralt of Rivia clip where he says "How about some Gwent?" When you said you needed to take a county in Wales

Please do a 2 part series with part 1 playing tall with that county in India from today's play through and part 2 doing a global conquest with that character.

Nice vid 👌

You should try a tall shrek game in the swamp (also mountain/taiga/desert would be fun too)

Omg you’ve infected my mind so much that when your heir came without any trait my first thought was wait till you get a new one and start a murder scheme on the trait less one XD

Another banger!

I think I had the same thing with the recital it seems like a bug now that you say it because I have won it probably every time and my characters have just been terrible at it.

"Jarl Ajvar" 😅 gonna get spicy

Sorry for the late reaction but thanks for making these consistent video’s zieley! Love from me and my friend owen❤

I managed to get 781 damage on some Gendarmes heavy cav in fully upgraded Lunden too

I also highly recommend going hard with heavy horsemen. The accolade lancers start at 200 damage. With the percent damage boosts from buildings and others I was able to hit 1800 damage with them in the high medieval age as Sicily .

@GewalfofWivia

Жыл бұрын

You meant Late Medieval. 1800 at High Medieval is mathematically impossible I’m afraid.

@andrewclark3740

Жыл бұрын

@@GewalfofWivia Yes I did, my bad

I feel that the best way to form England with the early start is picking a viking character (or making one). If you conquer Normandy you can form the norman culture and after that if you conquer england you can form the english culture which has longbow from the start.

Does other way around works still? i mean the strat of having over 100% screen with that getting negative loses (almost like you generated units) after a combat, guy i saw was using Caballeros (seens the easier to pull this off) there is Shomer with are cheaper but have less building and cuture sinegy maybe try to get Konnis with the Caballeros, i would say Archer Horseman but if not mistaken they are considerated skirmishers

Great Video

54:38 this whole 1 minute segment was painfully hilarious

Welsh Norse hybrid is my go too. Veterans and Longbows.

There's clearly no need, but you could have boosted the damage even higher with the workshop building chain that is unlocked with advanced bowmaking.

Tip, break the trinkets and artefacts for gold.

I didn't know Alfred being this arbitiary lol

Nice vid

Best sound effects

My dude, I don't know what to tell you, but you could've gone even further beyond and I don't just mean by going to Late Medieval, you see, there's yet another building you unlock with technology in High Medieval.....the Shooting Ranges, which gives siege progress to anyone stationed there, increases the efectiveness of Siege weapons by a lot and the damage and toughness of archers and skirmishes by quite a lot. Then again, if you want to get the absolute highest numbers possible, you start Norse, hybridize the Welsh and hop on to India varangian style, there's a new Wind Furnace building that's absolutely goddamn crazy for everything, it's ridiculous

Bro I'd much rather take the tyranny from revoking the mine county than the stress and negative traits from doing murders. Way faster and less consequences, especially for such a small realm.

Do the bonuses still stack if they changed it to “increase to stationed unit”?

Tradition tier list could be cool video

what was the song you just for the intro background?

"Hey mr pope I accidentally gave a bunch of kids a bunch of vassals, plz fix"

I haven’t been a subscriber for long but all your videos I’ve watched but I will ask if you decide to do another video maybe you will do one in a 867 start and help newer players learn to maximum there gold that can’t raid! Maybe say England but start as a count? Anyway love the videos bro keep up the great content looking forward to your next video

my first game in the update i have been trying to max out cataphracts to the max possible damage and have gotten them to nearly 500 damage (140+350) though im sure u can get it higher

Zieley the Wiljum of ck3 xd

Nice video

Love the sicko reference

Hey Ziely I have a question for you and anyone else who could help. Do you know if for last gen console users (Xbox One S) who play CK3 through gamepass would get access to the content if they purchased the DLCs for the game. If I buy chapter 1 though I’m not able to own CK3 on my generation of the Xbox would the game acknowledge I own the content and give me access to it even if I play CK3 through cloud gaming?

Did you account for eastern roman legacy giving a discount to Cataphacts? Since you need ERL to get Cataphacts anyway?

The is a slower start but once u snow ball with power in mid game its even more power with these updates

Ahhh... I have waited, so very long

Whenever I see Hasting i remember Koisfishs addiction to him.

You missed the workshop building that boosts archers an cultural fascination