Got recently an OG-107 green (M65 OD) Deadstock Winfield 70's M65 Cargo and it feels like having a rare Ferrari.

i found a plastic 65 made for rain wear, Italian surplus. Living in Florida, rain gear is a must for survival in Florida. It has a button in liner. Works pretty well.

nice job

The best winter pants I had were a pair of military chemical protective pants a local surplus store had years ago. They were fabric on the outside with a very dense charcoal impregnated foam on the inside. We would wear these over jeans and kept very warm. The wind would not go through them. Wish I still had a pair. Thank you Blackie.

@antigov7591

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve got the whole suit. It’s super warm.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

i remember those lots of guys used them to hunt

@oni_goroshi

8 ай бұрын

I used one of those charcoal lined chem suits as a base for a ghillie suit. The zippers coming almost up to the knee and the pass through pockets came in handy. I cut some nylon from an old duffle bag and glued it to the front of the pants and jacket to make it easier to slide and more durable, moved some of the pockets around to the arms, and sewed netting on the back of everything to attach burlap and foliage. Even in 95 degree heat crawling around in tall grass it wasn't too hot and breathed unbelievably well.

As simple souvenir from you

Hey Blackie I’m really loving the surplus series.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thanks glad you enjoy it

have always just loved the old school woodland pattern, wore many BDU's because I just liked them.

I was issued these in '79, in '80 we went back to out permanent press until we swapped the camos out. The field pants were to be wore over you regular BDUs like the field jacket.

Blackie , Pershing Missile System, P1A, P2 . the largest nuke missile the U.S. Army had . Thanks Again for sharing. Tim L.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

nice

Thanks for sharing 👍

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

A year after this post - I'm getting the M65 field pants asap! super thanks

Love the channel Blackie..Thanks for your idea of two liners for the M65 jacket. I'm on a blood thinner & it's hard to stay warm so that helps. I still have half dozen sets of my pickle suit greens from the 60s.My last draw was in 70.and the shirts then had buttoned cuffs instead of the wizard sleeves.I can still wear them, 34x29 pants 15 1/2x31 shirt

Here's a trick; long johns, then flannel pj bottoms under those winter weight pants.

I love my field pants!!! With cold weather liners just like the M-65 Northern Michigan

Cool pants

Its interesting that those pants have the same cut pocket design of the later gortex ecwcs pants. Id personally buy the gortex instead for $20

Blackie, you cracked a joke about the different states having the wrong gear. When I left active duty at FT. Stewart, GA I joined the GA Army National Guard. I was issued an extreme cold weather sleeping bag. When I finally returned to Michigan my guard unit in Michigan issued me an intermediate sleeping bag. Froze my ass off in that thing.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thank you for your service i know what you mean some times the logic of the services escapes me

Helikon Tex makes a set. And they go up to larger sizes.

I have them and the matching jacket. 11 bucks but no liners. So I'm looking for liners.

I was 128 lbs with a 28in. Waist and yes sir I did pack a full combat load pack with an M-60 machine gun so we skinny guys were spared no mercy. The pants you are looking at we had them in OD green and they were known as field pants. I was out way before they issued the woodland uniforms

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thank you for your service and as a i side note when i went in for my basic physical i was 5ft 2 123 lbs other medical issues kept me from serving but it was not my size lol

@rickstackhouse9944

2 жыл бұрын

I here ya Blackie. I think they were more interested in a fully functioning trigger finger back in the day and the short and skinny guys got selected to clear out the tunnels. Especially if you were a private with not much say so in the matter

@rickstackhouse9944

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to here you had a profile preventing you from service. I still consider you as a brother in arms reguardless. You are very knowledgeable and a go getting individual who has a wealth of experience to pass on.

I was in an Artic Unit in the early 70s and learned to cross country ski wearing the-- before camo version, with the button-in liners, they were very warm. we also wore the Micky Mouse Boots.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for your service

Blackie , good tip , thanks for sharing ,God bless !

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

Good

Great show Blackie ! The BDUs come in a variety of fabrics/fabric blends; 100% cotton rip stop, 65polyester/35cotton rip stop, Twill (heaviest, not rip stop), 50/50 NYCO Nylon/Cotton rip stop (most expensive). That old Woodland camo was what I was issued in the 90s in case some of us were sent to Central/South America (we never were). That was the best camouflage. The ACU that replaced it was a poor attempt to have a "one camo for everywhere". I was actually looking at the 4 pocket Woodland camo BDU shirt/blouse today and those are knocking on $45+ (I had ordered a brand new German Bundeswer flecktarn camo shirt... but it wasn't the right size so I had to send it back 😞). Fun fact, for a very short period of time, every branch of the US Armed Forces wore these. And although the camo and fabrics were identical, some branches had some differences... USMC had button waist tabs on the 4 pocket shirt/ blouse. USN Seabees & SEALS had pockets on the upper sleeves of the shirt.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

THANKS FOR THE INFO AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE

We had field pants and parkas with the coyote hoods, along with the mittens with the long strings than ran thru the sleeves...

@toddgibson9861

2 жыл бұрын

PS- the field pants and the parka had liners that buttoned into them....

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thank you for your service brother looking forward to the campout

Great information on all the great surplus gear! I love it!!!

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Great video

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the visit

Thanks for the info, enjoy your videos very much. Things changed a lot since I served 66 to 68 U.S. Army and 76 to 78 National Guard. Always froze in my field jacket and had no extra gear and wore what we were told and our duffle bag carried our gear, no back pack.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thank you for your service

@stephenwest798

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackoracle69 You are welcome.

I enjoy your videos. I finished with 36.5 years of service. Don’t plan on camping anymore. How ever I now have a grandson. So it will be much more fun. Thank you

I got a set when I was a kid. Coat, pants , and the liners for both. That’s all I’d have for winter wear. When I started doing residential electrical work I went and got a pair of the pants again. 4 years crawling under houses with a million staples in the pockets they still looked new. Pops stole them from me because he shorter than I am. 😂

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

they hold up better than many store bought work pants today

I have a bunch of the camo bdu pants but I've never seen the heavy winter version. I have about 3 of the long large bdu I never wore because I'm 5:7. I do have some of the pants liners here too and I have a couple of the German wool pants too, super heavy and warm with plastic in the knees. Fun to learn about stuff I haven't seen before but they made a ton of specialized clothing for any climate.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

Blackie, I am a simple man with a simple plan. That being said, I love the knowledge, experience, common sense and simplicity of your videos. I have🖒many but today I subscribed. Keep up the good work.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that

@strawberryfields95

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackoracle69 Thank you, your are welcome. The pleasure. Is all mine. I love your level headed simple approach. It makes it easier for me to relate. God Bless

Had two pairs of them made by polish helikon in woodland and olive drab/green and even that they were specific reproduction of original surplus made for military pants they were great not only for cold weather and also for medium cold and early fall atmospheres.At now i have two pairs of bdus in ripstop made by helikon, one woodland and one 3 color desert and theyre better in my opinion and more universal and of course cheaper than m65 (btw i had 2 jackets too, now using goretex), the material is ripstop and you can wear something under them (in ex pair of pants used to wear at house).Additionaly im aiming to buy woodland bdu shirt to cover my gore tex from mud (its adidas genuine civil version) and the set is completed for me but of course i can advise both m65 pants and jackets, theyre extremely reliable and almost indestructible, they fit most of jeans and/or other military pants as well.Greetings from poland :)

I still have a pair of OD winter M65 pants with the wool liner, they are really warm.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

very true

Thumbs up on those here too. Got the woodland and the OD. Never actually wore them with the insulated liner in them.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

they would sweat me out in bama

I completely forgot that I had them and the liner in my old duffel bag in a old footlocker from my days of being in (1986-1996, 1999-2003). One of the tricks that I learned back then was to take a couple of the plastic stoppers that came on bags and sweatshirts. I put one on each of the drawstrings on the pants cuff to help hold them closed when you tied them up while you were walking in deep snow to help keep them from sliding up. I have to pull them out and wash them and see if they still fit.

I have the first post-ww2 set, the wool CPO style shirt, OD, of course, and matching pants, and the Fishtail parka with removable hood and liner. That was called the M-1951 uniform they came out with for the Korean War and NATO in Europe. I love the wool stuff. By the time I retired I also had the woodland gear. You didn’t mention the suspenders strap when you talked about the suspender buttons. Those were for the elastic suspenders they came out with, way back when. I still find them in bundles at gun shows and surplus stores(sometimes even Coleman’s Surplus, or Charlie’s) in new, unissued condition. They attach with an elongated wire hook, that hooks through that horizontal strap, which is on ALL the layers, including the old Wallace Beery (sp?) and going up to the new pollypro underwear. One suspender keeps all inner layers up. Fantastic idea. Not complete without these. I didn’t like the older button model. By the way, another great thing is that they hook on the sides, easy to do when you gotta go to the bathroom without completely undressing to unhook the button type!

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thank you for your service

Oh man we were issued these going over seas and we stepped of the plane we were immediately soaked as you said back to jungle utilitilites

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

well they wanted you warm on the flight lol

@tomritter493

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackoracle69 lol I guess

Hi Blackie! A nice accompaniment video to the M-65 jacket episode.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

I was in the Army when they were issued when we first changed over to woodland camo. we were issued three pair and one set of the liners. I was stationed at Ft. Stewart just below Savannah GA. You knew when someone was behind on his laundry because he was wearing them in July Lol. while I was in we went from OD green to woodland camo to Desert. 24th. Infantry Division Military Police, Hooah. Thanks I might just have to see if they have my size.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for your service brother hope to camp with you soon

@toneyjohnson8910

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackoracle69 I hope to camp with you this year as well. I'm off Sat Sun and Mondays now so I will jave more time.

I wore those pants in the military and the winter pants were my favorite. I’d love to get another few pairs.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for your service

I was on on First issue of BDU's yes they were stupid hot and they has some stupid Collar. we were proud when they came out with Summer weight.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

it really does make a difference

Kaufman's in Samson is my favorite place..love those puppies in there too..

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

they are cute.. and friendly

Hey Blackie, I was lucky and found a pair of those same pants at a local surplus store here in Michigan, they were brand new and mine has the liners that were included fortunately! very warm, great pants. I also have the regular winter weights and summer ripstops with the buttons. Yeah, that's weird that you guys have all the good winter stuff down there. I want to get a GI Arctic Canteen set also for next winter. I hope Kaufman's ship to other states. I still have to call them about the M1949 down Mountain bag, when I save up the money for one. Wish Kaufman's had a website to see all there stuff! 👍👖

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

they will ship no problem

@jeffrichards5106

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackoracle69 That's great, thanks a lot!

You found bdu woodland trouser Nice Can you please gave it to me thank you

Up north here, and just paid 40 bucks for these on Ebay. Never saw the Winter part when purchased, till they came in. Huge size. not the waistand not the length, just BAGGEY. Best price there Blackie. Thanks

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

Thanks Blackie

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

glad to help

Up north? Bemidji Minnesota has a small surplus Minneapolis Minnesota has a larg surplus store. But where I've been finding them way cheap is the used stuff places. Thrift shops and antique shops. Other than surplus. This might interest you. Oil lamps camp gear tools kitchen ware .old time coffee pots. And if your looking for crystal stuff. Well go to park rapids Minnesota on the west side or Crosby Minnesota if you antique. Just letting you know. As far as surplus? I'm starting to see Gen one and two on the racks now. And that is the thrift store. Oh. You should try out the air force trousers man's utility. There warm for something with no liners. I think it's the extra pocket on the lower leg. Plus there stretchy instead of the side adjustment. .

As a 40x35 guy, I usually have to shell out for new Tru-Spec Ascent bdu’s. The surplus stores never have my size. I think it’s time to retire that shirt brother!

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

lol oh its just getting broke in now

Yes sir. Couple years ago I happened across a pair of wool and mohair field pant liner for $8.00. Only wore em once. Gotta be single digits to wear em. 😂

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

i have extreme weather sets but like you its rare i get to break them out

@williamgregory6684

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like they would be great motorcycle riding gear for winter.I didn't even know they existed! Will be calling Kaufman's in the near future. Buy a few pairs for my bug out bags.$25 is a bargain compared to what store bought pants cost these days. Thanks again Blackie for passing on some valuable information. I'm 67 and I never fail to learn something new from your channel.

We don’t have anything in Michigan all the military bases are down south or by coast and in the desert. Yes those were our issue for cold wet wether with the liner. Have fun stay safe.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

They should have the built in tie tapes for the cargo pockets as well.

I remember a lot of Marines were passing out at OCS during the summers of 85-87; Corpsmen had their hands full. I ended up in an iced water kiddie pool to cool down. I still have some of those heavier weave "summer" (lol) uniforms; I think they threw the old gear at us, and at the enlisted Boots. Did not realize they were the culprits in the heat cases.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

i am next to a army base and they had guys dropping everywhere

@petesheppard1709

8 ай бұрын

Back in the '70s, we would walk the first week to allow the candidates from the cooler climates to get used to August heat and humidity on the Potomac. Us Southern boys laughed.

I wore the older field pants for working in the mountain country IN SUMMER for several years. It was hot and rough but the tougher field pants could take the brush busting abuse where modern pants would tear. Suspenders and belt were needed. Those snap down pockets could carry a lot more than jungles. They fit baggy but were cooler because there was more air movement. They work well in colder weather as well, just tab down the leg bottoms for heat. As you mentioned, they also had the liners. I have never wore a tougher trouser. I still have two pair, one worn and one newer. They are truly a go to war trouser. I have Belgium wool combat trousers and they are good but I prefer the old US GI field pants. Thanks for the video.

These sound like the new goretex trousers.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

nope the predate that

I have a pair of these in OD for about $15 and I can hardly wear them anymore because of the value

Small guys usually wound up driving a jeep for an officer. 68-71, 27 months in Germany. I would go into town at night in civvies and a windbreaker with snow on the ground. Dry cold, the wind was something else.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thank you for your service

I wouldnt want my plums in that heavy ink

@blackoracle69

Жыл бұрын

they are great in winter but a killer in the summer

Those are the cold weather combat trousers, you can add the pant liner I have a medium regular olive green dated 1950.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

nice

Yep Germany!👍

Blackie , I've got two pairs of OD Field Pants, also we had terry cloth liners and that was in Germany . I was there from 1980-1982 Neu Ulm , Germany. 56th BG. B 1/81 Pershing . ( Pershing Finest ) . How about the Field Shirt 100 wool a very heavy shirt. Thanks Again for sharing your time and knowledge and passing on the craft. Yes You Are The Master Woodsman and Buschcrafter. Tim L.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

i have a few of those wool shirts and my wife has a set of the pants with suspenders and terry cloth liners for our extreme cold camps

@timlacy2284

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackoracle69 I need the field shirt but I've got suspenders field pants, can't wear them out.

I have three of those pants. Absolutely love them. I actually did find a pair of those m65s in the O.D. Green as well. Unfortunately, I forget what website I purchased them from. Sorry about that. Again, Absolutely bomb proof. They last longer than any BDUs that I have.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

I have a pair with the tie straps in the pockets that pull out through a slash in the pockets for tying them around your legs...great pants i wear them in the winter up here in Canada,,....paid 10 bucks for them,....and they are old i also have a pair of the lightweight ripstop ones..

That's what I need in wisconsin.. Mine are to light

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

they got them at my local surplus place 334-898-1770

I tote Sadf nutria surplus which is in huge supply here in South Africa. I love army surplus.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

Reminds of my Old Mans story when he was in the Aleutians in WW 11 they got some duce 1/2s that Uncle Sam sent them, all we're summer type with canvas tops !

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

sounds like a uncle sam bright idea

We were issued the woodland camo in the 80's but I've never seen that particular version with the suspender loops. Tough as iron, super durable. When the ripstop came out we wanted to love it but they were shit, wore out in no time. They eventually came out with another rip stop that was better. I left in 1988 with a stack of uniforms and over the decades either wore them out or gave them away. I may still have a couple of uniforms in the woodland camo but my old fat ass ain't never getting in those small-regular pants again. LOL (edit) I guess that Kaufman's in Alabama doesn't have a website. Crap! If they do, please post it.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

they do but it will be far better just to call them 334-898-1770

Hadda pair of them,, yup ,,, 2 doggone hot 4 Florida...🔥...

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

you got that right

Lol I have m65 camo pattern and found the ECW pants in desert lol I’ll still wear both…and probably together…If I need them it’s bc I Needed them. Thanks for the contact number to Kauffmans. Blessings

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

glad to help

I am an old fat veteran . Both the jacket and the pants are really scarce for those of us "rounder" individuals . In order to get what I need , I have to go after market . That equates to garbage in my world .

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

i hear ya

My wife hates me wearing them. 🤣 but its my favorite surplus pant so I wear them every chance i get which is only a month or two out of the year but they're great. If the zipper falls down on you a lot like my pair does just take the cord attached to the zipper and pull it over the button before you button your pants and it keeps your pants up. Thought it was kinda cool. I want to get the suspenders idk why i havent bought any yet i saw them for pretty cheap.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

👍

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

I'm from Serbia, and I found here that green model, so good pants. Only thing o didn't like is that leg sleeves are so wide, when u wear it it looks like u wear skirt 😀

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

lol very true

Winter Weight BDU's. Yay. I really hated the first gen shirts with the massive "Elvis" collars, and they did not have the tabs with buttons on the side, those did not show up till mid-80's. I much preferred the Rip-Stop versions. During the first Gulf War my unit received a few pallets worth of experimental 1970's production Woodland Camo BDU's that had much smaller cammo patterns on them. Yes, while in the desert, we were issued more Woodland BDU's. heheheheh.

@gregsmall5939

2 жыл бұрын

ERDL's

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

yep uncle sam strikes again..i had a friend teaching artic survival to marines they were shipped swim trunks instead of long underwear

I'll be spending several days at Kaufmans in about 3 weeks LOL. Been saving for 12 months!!!

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

awesome they will be open for us on sat

First !!!

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

congrats

I use the cold war german NVA winter pants and jacket its lined also and they have the rain camo got it cheap off of ebay the set for 40 bucks

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

good deal

I need to get more

Someone needs to talk to Radar 😂

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

lol

Blackie i found a pair for $7.99 at my local thrift store and they look new.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

great deal!!

I like your hat. Where did you get it?

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

boy scouts EXPLORIERS scout master hat

I got a few pair of those, they must have shrunk I know I haven't put on weight lol 😆 but I have been looking for my gloves for 3 day's and found them yet, 😅 the last time I seen them they were in my hand. Lol

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

Do they have a website. ?? Found several all over the country

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

it will be faster to call them kaufmans army surplus samson alabama 334 -898-1770

Can you talk about your hat. And where to get one.

Jumbo shrimp...

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

military logic

Small regular or medium regular

Ive got a pair of those cold weather field pants and found inside the cargo pockets two straps, always wonder what those were for.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

i know a vet who said to me once he carried his spare socks there

@azhomeboy2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackoracle69 theres two straps about 15 inches long sewn into each cargo pocket. And theres a hole in the corner of the pocket that they can be passed thru. You might have to turn the pants inside out to see em. Is that what he was talkin about?

@nomadmarauder-dw9re

7 ай бұрын

Those straps are to tie down the pockets. Pull through the slots and secure around leg.

@azhomeboy2000

7 ай бұрын

@@nomadmarauder-dw9re Thank you!

@nomadmarauder-dw9re

7 ай бұрын

@@azhomeboy2000 you're welcome. Happy New Year.

Do these have the leg straps in the cargo pockets? They remind me of og-107s.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

yes the do have the straps

How do Blackie.....where can I get one of these Jackets??....thankyou sir

I just looked my pants are 60% cotton and 40% polyester. lol they have burn holes but have served me well.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

awesome

I don't know, I think it depends upon where the mission was? Maybe soldiers from Alabama would be sent to a cold weather deployment?

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

lol yep and we will send the guys from alaska to the tropics military logic for ya

I hated those pants. I always wore the summers. We called these the winters, they took alot longer to dry out when u got them wet.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

they would be slow to dry

@forestchicken3302

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackoracle69 back in my young infantryman days I would just layer some long underwear under the summers worked better.

Question: I have wondered what is the name of your hat; and where can they be purchased. Thank You 👍👍👍

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

search my videos for "the hat question" did a video on it

@rjvcescobar

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackoracle69... Thank you...you should attach the hat to amazon connection so you can get some monies and credit...love the hat. 👍👍👍

i was 150 lbs toting a 120 lbs ruck

The hat,talk about your hat.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

lol i did a video on it called the hat question

Hi from Syracuse NY brother please share the surplus Army and Navy store address and website link

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

fastest way is to call them kaufmans army surplus 334-898-1770 tell them i sent ya they will hand select for ya

You can order any camo pattern of them from Rothco but their garbage not anywhere close to the original real ones they're cheap and thin and have tapered legs with tight ankles one of the things I like the most about the real ones was the wide legs and wide ankles to fit over thick boots

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

these were issue and have the roomy from the knees up cut to them

So I'm running 34x34" (technically 34x33" but they don't make them). What sizes in the regular and winter pants should I get that isn't baggy? I'm in northern California. What mods would you do to them? I'm thinking knees and seat to start with. Plus I heard some people shorten the cuffs to prevent snagging when squatting down etc.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

kaufmans also had medium and small i am thinking the med would fit you better

@robertmauldin4987

2 жыл бұрын

You need medium long. That's what I wore when in Marines in 1980's

The pair i found has some has some web type long straps in the cargo pockets. I think they are probably there to dummy cord something so you can't loose whatever you have. Does yours have them or have they been cut out?

@terrysaunders2026

2 жыл бұрын

Edward: Those straps help take up slack for the pockets. They wrap around and tie on your thighs. The pockets are so big that stuff shifts around, and the straps help minimize that.

@terrysaunders2026

2 жыл бұрын

Plus, the pockets snag on barb wire or anything else you walk by, they can be a snag hazard.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

correct the straps were to be leg ties and keep the loose fit from shifting and snagging when you were walking

Nothing better then a Russian gorka suit.. all the other stuff is so inferior when it comes to comfort durability insect safety water repellant fast drying non flammable adaptability with winter clothing windproof light silent (I managed serval times to walk up to deer 10yards away) good camo options and most importantly cheap and easy to fix...just my opinion

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching