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@kiyoshilengyel4747

17 күн бұрын

..congratulations 🎉 You'v get you self two more barrel BURNERS..🤪 //🍻🇸🇪🍻

@craigbraswell4269

17 күн бұрын

Arken optics = best bang for your $. I own SEVERAL of them and have been very, very happy with them.

@jimmyholliman7103

17 күн бұрын

I just got my daddy's 222rem. And it's a sweet little gun

@russ3080

17 күн бұрын

I’m definitely going to use the ARKEN code, I picked up a used EPL-4 4-16x44 and dropped on a Ruger Precision, absolutely love it. Will be adding more ARKEN glass to my safe👍👍

@ricktaylor3748

17 күн бұрын

@WHOTEEWHO. The trigger in your .220 Swift is an X-Mark Pro with an adjustable pull weight screw. Someone obviously stoned down the sear. Those triggers won't usually adjust below 2 3/4 pounds. I've never heard of a short action Sendero, they usually came in magnum calibers. 7mm mag. .300 mag. and .264 mag. I've probably owned more .264 Win. mags than anyone in this country. At one point, I had 17 .264 mags in my gun cabinet. 54.3 grains of IMR 4350 with 129 gr Hornady Interbond bullets shot decent groups in my .264 rifles. 38.0 grains of IMR 4064 with Sierra 40gr. bullets works well in my pre 64 .220 Swift. Factory 140 grain bullets don't shoot accurately worth a hoot. I'm glad you found what you've been looking for. 👍

264 win mag vs 300 win mag vs 338 win mag paper plates

The 220 Swift absolutely screams... over 4,000 fps!!!!! A friend of mine had one - a Ruger No. 1 in 220 Swift. We fired a 4-shot group at the 100 yard range, and covered all 4 shots with a dime. The only downside is that it heats up your barrel mighty quick, and the concussion is incredibly loud because of all that speed.

@bartburgess1174

17 күн бұрын

I’ve seen a doe drop at almost 500 yards with one shot from a #1 in 220 Swift. A buddy told us he was aiming at her nose. Guess what? Her nasal area had been cleared!

@wyattarie8905

17 күн бұрын

I originally thought this video would be about a rifle instead of cartridge. And I assumed it was a Ruger No. 1. So I thought it was funny you mentioned it.

I bought my 220 Swift in the early 90,s . Mine is a Winchester Model 70 Heavy Varmint. These guns came with a stainless barrel and an aluminum bedded stock. It is a lights out 400 yard rock chuck shooting machine. The common twist on a swift is 1 in 14 which limits you to 55 grain bullets or less. Both it and the 264 earned undeserved reputations as barrel burners. Mine swift still shoots 1/2 moa with 45 grain bullets at 3,900. Will wait to see the shooting video.

@NC-xk1eg

17 күн бұрын

😉👍

A buddy of mine has a pre 64 model 70 in .264 win mag.If you want an even rarer 6.5 cal, find a 6.5 Remington Magnum.

We all called him "The Preacher" ......when I was a youngster, I went elk huntin' with my Dad and his group, and one of them was "The Preacher" we called him that because he carried a .264 Win Mag, and, as far as we knew, he never missed with it. We'd hear that thing go off, (We hunted the pole patches of Eastern Oregon), and somebody would always say, "There he goes, Preachin' again...Preachin' to them Elks" ...it had a unique sound, kinda a higher pitched "CRACCKK" ....very distinctive....it was a Model 70 Winnie, and we all thot it was very cool......what it did to elk was phenomenal.....very cool cartridge, and your lucky to have found one.....get urself one of BackFire's recoil pads for it...they kick........OnWard.........

The man that taught me to reload was a 220 Swift nut. He had several. The story of the 220 Swift as he told it. When it first came out. Every rancher wanted one because it was so fast and flat shooting. Wellllll, I do not remember the number of rounds he said but was not that high of a number, like 750 to 800 rounds. The barrel would wash out on the lands and groves. Come to find out. The ammo Mfg's just lowered the feet per second to that of a 22-250 feet per second. The reason the barrel would wash out is it was free bored. Meaning the bullet would jump from brass to land and groves. With the powder charge set for 220 the bullet jumps and the powder flash would get in front of the bullet. X number of rounds and that would wash out the barrel. Insure that you can find the lands and groves when reloading. He had to have his re-barreled or shortened and rechambered to remove the free bore. Factory ammo is almost equal to 22-250 from what I remember. Yet once he had the work done on the barrel he reloaded to original powder charge of the 220 Swift and WOW did it preform well.

@NC-xk1eg

17 күн бұрын

Great story, thanks.👍

I once had a boss with a Winchester Model 70 in .264 Win Mag. That gun was a tack driver and deer/pronghorn slayer. I watched him shoot 2 quarters, one after the other, at 100 yards. He hit both without breaking the rims of the quarters. I was very impressed!

@stever8776

18 күн бұрын

Same here great rifle in a great caliber!

"Oooo, fancy pants!" 😂 Great additions to your collection. I'd like to see your take on the .257 Roberts. I love mine. It was along the same lines. I had wanted one for a few years when I saw one was available. I quickly purchased it, knowing that I might not get that chance again for a while.

You hit a gold mine. Very nice find. The 264 Win Mag is one of my favorite rounds.

I do the gunsmith thing so I built a .220 Swift on a VZ-24 Mauser, 1-8 twist 416 SS Shilen barrel crowned at 27-1/2” (the blank was 28”) and I love that ole gun. My freind used it in the 2023 Wyoming antelope season to take his speed goat at 192 yards with 75 gr Swift Scirocco… I bought myself 9:40 .264 Winchester model 70 (1959 mfg) in 1977 for my 17th birthday from a good friend. I lost count of what that rifle has taken and I gave it to my 17 year old grandson for his 17th birthday. I have built 4 .264 WM’s for my kids and two good friends. I love that round. The 140 gr Bergers are death missiles. I hope you enjoy both of those beautiful rifles! Great video sir.

@tom7719

17 күн бұрын

@raytribble8075 would you explain how you crowned a 28” barrel at 28.5”?

@hk45c62

17 күн бұрын

​@@tom7719 , he must have a metal stretcher.

@raytribble8075

17 күн бұрын

@@tom7719 well that sir is fat fingers and not proof reading first. Thank you for catching that. I bought a 28” barrel blank from Shilen and after facing and threading the receiver end, setting the headspace, I finished out the “target crown” to finish the barrel at 27-1/2”. Thank you!

@brickhammerSS

17 күн бұрын

Haters everywhere

@grantroper2511

10 күн бұрын

​@@tom7719 😮‍💨🤦🏻‍♂️

I'm usually not jealous of what you get , but today you blew me out of the water, two of the greatest gateway cartridges ever. Those are where precision and reach out there, started.

The 264 win mag is basically the same as a 7mm REM mag only the bullets are.264 and the Rem mag is.284. I think the 7mm, Rem mag is a more well rounded cartrige as it can handle a lot heavier bullets for the bigger game?

@randall875

17 күн бұрын

You hit the bulls eye on that one thats why the 7mm rem mag buried the 264 win mag shortly after it came on the market in 1962

264 is an old and “deer” friend! I’ve had a pre-64 for 30 years. Mine tolerates a 120 BT almost 3350 and the 100 BT over 3500. Lightning bolt or whitetail, pronghorn and muleies. Had its bigger brothers for the others 338😎. The swift has its own memories of prairie dogs and hot barrels!! Over 4k with 40-45 grain BT’s. Have fun!!

Had that exact rifle. You will find that the 220 Swift will have a Shorter than normal Barrel life! Other than that, it's a great rifle!! Works great on ground Dogs (Prairie Dogs) That trigger is NOT factory! Far from it! I have not seen or shot a 264 Mag. since the mid to late 80's. Again, a great rifle!

The 264 would be a lot more popular except they came out with that little light, short barreled rifle. Plus they now have better powders and a better understanding of barrel wear. Not a prairie dog rifle, but a decent long range deer and antelope cartridge. Check the throats on both and if they haven't been shot out, use judiciously keeping the barrel cool and you will love both.

In my opinion, it's a slow train coming but I'm seeing a teeny-tiny resurgence of the .220 Swift. I love all of "The Barrel Burners", my favorite being the super-accurate .22-250 with 50 grainers weighing in at 4000 fps. In factory loads, if you so desire, Hornady makes a 4450 fps scorcher in a 35 grainer with the .204 Ruger hot on it's heels. With some common sense & TLC you can easily get 5000+ rounds from these wonderful high speed lasers. I love 'em all & there's several of them.

Got me reminiscing about the 90's and American rifleman articles

Hey Hooty. I love it when you go shopping at Toliver's. I feel like I'm going shopping with your money! The 264 Winchester Magnum is a necked down 458 Win Mag just like the 338 Win Mag and was released around the same time as the 338 Win Mag. That 220 Swift is a keeper and will shoot fast with the 26" barrel and will definitely hold it's value. Thanks for sharing!

@martyadams3915

17 күн бұрын

You bought yourself a big load of speed in this one. That .220 swift in the remington set off a bell I my mind. Back in the 70's remington made a bolt action pistol called the XP-100. They chambered it in a quick little round called the .221 Fireball. Have you ever done a video on this firearm? I have never had the chance to shoot one but there is still a pretty strong cult following on these guns. If you are looking for unique content that has speed and accuracy I believe this may be a money maker for you if you can find one.

@NC-xk1eg

17 күн бұрын

.221 Fireball. I remember it well. Didn't the Thompson Contender (with multiple calibers) spin- off from that?👍

Jist found the video. My grandfather left me a 220 Swift. He picked it up in the 1950s from all i could learn. Somebody built it. Its on a Mauser 98 action, none stamped barrel. And it shoots ! It prefers Hornady ammo. Old as i am, i can still put 3 shots inside a quarter at 100 yards. Its my yote/varmint rifle. Nice job, i envy your find !

Finally, not one but two remington 700's! Hope you enjoy them brother! Can't wait for the future videos on these bad boys.

@WHOTEEWHO

18 күн бұрын

Can't wait!

AWESOME find. It's good to have friends who look out for ya

Great video. Had a 220 swift (Ruger 77) back in the olden days. Crazy accurate. Burned that barrel out. Hope the barrels on your senderos are low milage. Always wanted a 264 WM. Good luck. I’ll be watching.

That Bushnell elite 3200 is actually a decent hunting scope, I have one on a 338 rager compact magnum…

@michaelficarro2591

18 күн бұрын

338 Ruger compact mag….

Two GREAT cartridges from days gone by . And still do the job . Excellent video !!!

You sound like me when I explain a big gun purchase to my wife… “it’s a collectors item” “you have to jump on these deals cuz you may never get this chance again” 🤠🍻 Way to go WTW!

@WHOTEEWHO

17 күн бұрын

🤣🤣🤣👍👍

Absolutely stunning rifles with the stainless barreled action and that color stock. Plus in two rare classic cartridges that have tons of love from those in the know. Yes a 22-250 vs 220 Swift is a must. If you still have that 6.5x300 WBY Mag laying around your office that would be the more comparable cartridge, but include the 6.5 Creed and PRC too. 😃🇺🇸🦌

I once owned a Sendero in .22-250. Great rifle. Hope your barrel is not shot out as is so common with the Swift.

You could reach out and touch something with that .264! Can’t wait to see that bad boy at the range. Very very nice!

A Remington!! Best rifle made period!!! The 700 can't be beat. It's been used for everything. Has gone through the test of life. It's the goat in firearms. Awesome!!

Been a while since I’ve commented on these videos! Been watching them on my tv and can’t comment as easily. But one thing that is obvious and quite honestly contagious, is WTW’s attitude and general joy. Dude probably gets 1.25 hours of sleep each night and doesn’t let it show with how he acts on camera and interacts off camera. Class act guy.

@WHOTEEWHO

17 күн бұрын

🙏🙏🙏 thanks so much. Truly appreciate you watching. I am working hard at it!

I loved the .220 Swift when I was young and am still very fond of it. I am now in a new universe called .22 Creedmoor and I doubt I’ll ever go back to the Swift. Enjoy that Swift,it’s a very special critter!

That's a jewel trigger. Amazing triggers

Awesome. Can't wait to see how it shoots!!

The 7mm Remington Magnum pretty much killed the 264 Winchester Magnum. With a. decent handload you should see around 3150 to 3200 fps. with a 140 gr Bullet. Pretty flat shooting round. Enjoy. My guess both those rifles have aftermarket triggers installed. The Bushnell Elite is an ok scope. I never own one, but I seen them around back in the day.

Always fun to watch you get so excited! Way cool bing bang Who Tee...Thanks much, stay safe and healthy!

I tried the Rem 700 for competition shooting. The safety gets in the way when you are stressed for time. I build Win M70 and Savage 110 for my shooting needs. If you like the Rem 700, you have been sold on a dream. have fun!

Love the 264, deer slaying machine!! Wife has a swift and loves it. Happy for you. Cant wait to see them on the range!

Congratulations on the find can’t wait for the videos on them

WHOTEEWHO... The Sendero's were chambered in long actions, Short Actions were named Varmint Synthetics. That's the true differences between the two brother.

Love the 220 Swift. I have one my dad bought in 1950. Kind of rare…….it’s a Husqvarna. One of the most accurate rifles I own. Welcome to the 220 club!

Take that 220 swift, pull it out of the stock, clean it really good with copper solvent and re-insert in stock and torque the action screws at 65inch pounds. It is in fact a VSSF (Varmint Stainless Synthetic Fluted) II not a Sendero.

@davidmcgrath9581

16 күн бұрын

Spot on, I had the exact same one VSSF back in the early 90s in Ireland☘

Cool. I remember the first time that I ever seen a Remington Sendero was many years back when Ol Bill Jordan on Realtree Outdoors use to carry one of those chambered Iin 280 Rem..I always thought that fluted bull barrel looked pretty cool. Thanks for another video buddy. God bless you and your family

Hey from Sugar Land TX. I bought a .264 from a fellow about 6 years ago. I absolutely love that gun! He said that it was real popular in Louisiana in the late 60s, but then hunters said that when it went through heavy brush or tree areas, the bullet would go off course pretty easy. Hunters went to 30.06 or 30.30. But he said if you have a straight shot and clear line of sight with no brush, it’s a beautiful gun. And I have to agree. It is just a pleasure to shoot. And I mean it is dead on at 100 to 150 yards. He even gave 50 rounds of ammo miked to that rifle. Can’t wait to see what you get out of yours!

2 great calibers. I can’t wait to see the videos.

My brother and I each have a ruger m77 target in 220 swift. Both are 1 hole group rifles. Funny part of the story we bought them from different stores 2 days apart and neither one knew the other was getting one. They are identical except the brand of scope but both are 6x18x50

The trigger on my 700 custom is tunable down to 2lbs. I have it tuned to 2 3/4 lbs. You probably have a target crown on the sendero. Mine is a very similar profile to the sendero. I would go ahead and get a trigger pull Gauge and adjust it up to at least 2 3/4 lbs. That's the lightest I feel comfortable with and not slam firing. When mine goes, it breaks like glass. I have no reaction to the kick. It's done. I have an older "7 year s" Lyman. Works great, and a buddy that has an adjustable trigger can come over and get used to it or adjust it. It's honestly good to use a snap cap for your caliber. It saves the shoulder of your firing pin from the abuse of repeated dry firing. There's arguments for the " it's ok to dry fire it" . But I've seen a few not so old rifles the firing pin looked like it had been thru a war. Safer not to worry.

Congratulations on your new additions Adam. I have been a long time subscriber to your channel and always wish you the best, so my comment is not in any way meant in a negative light whatsoever, I'm sure you know that. What I am asking/stating, is that although I am not the most knowledgeable firearm guy, I have always been told/warned that many traded-in .220 Swift rifles have burned out barrels and that's the main reason they are traded-in. Of course, I hope that's not the case for you, but as someone that has your best interest in mind, I hope you have checked the barrel or will have it checked out in the near future, as the .220 Swift is known as a barrel burner due to its incredible speed. As a WTW long time subscriber/friend, I'm sure you know that I am only commenting with your best interest in mind. Again, congratulations and best of luck. God bless Adam. 🙏 👍 WTW..............

@WHOTEEWHO

17 күн бұрын

Always appreciate you watching. We will find out!

@notsosilentmajority1

16 күн бұрын

@@WHOTEEWHO 👍

These were 2 of the hot rod calibers when i was growing up in the 1970s. I have shot both, owned a 220 swift and a couple of friends had .264 win mag. These were the desired calibers for western hunting. The swift was the best coyote rifle I ever owned. I also took pronghorn with it. Barrel life was the down fall of these guns back then. Needless to say I am envious.

Congrats wtw, on the Remington score, my very first centre fire rifle was a Remington 700, chambered in 270 win., tack driver, but, momma needed some silly stuff ,like food n such, so, I parted ways with that tack driver, oh well, shakyjake out.

A properly adjusted “Walker “ trigger can really be nice , light and crisp!

220 swift is loosely based on the 6mm Lee Navy and will exceed 4100 fps with a 40gr bullet the 264 win mag is the father of the long range hunting cartridges same case as the 7mm mag with a 6.5 bullet but the 264 came first I've killed 2 of my 3 best bucks with my 264 win mag and my longest kill to date at 502 yds. That was a fine score my friend!!!

Great finds man!

Bud I am really jealous of the 220. THE best groundhog getter anywhere......AND groundhog is THE best wild game you will ever put in your mouth. :)

Nice find. You got some great hardware! Enjoy it!

Very cool. Nice pair of freedom flingers. 👍👍

Great fun video! I love the old .264 Win Mag. too.

Brother!! You absolutely gonna love the .264!! I had a Winchester model 70 in that chamber. Absolute beast of a round. I wish I had never gotten rid of it.

Really fun video! 😀

Pretty sweet finds!

When he showed the caliber on the 220 swift barrel how many of ya'll angled the phone and brought it close to your face to see hahaha

I've owned a Ruger M77V (26" bull barrel) in 220 Swift since the '70s and it is still one of my favorites. The old ones have a twist of 14" so won't stabilize the heavy bullets of today and my most accurate (and favorite) bullet is the 52-53g BTHP Match bullets a few companies make. I have other varmint rifles in 204 Ruger and .223 so save the swift for special shoots and alternate the rifles to save the barrels. No factory ammo is as accurate as my own handloads with those match bullets, in the '80s my first outstanding group was 5 shots into 1 3/8" at 200 yards. A rare zero wind day.

I’m curious of these rounds. Awesome find man!

Unfortunately, the 264 WinMag is a heavy barrel eater. About 1500 shots on a barrel, and thats if you take very good care of it... If I were you, I'd do handloads with the 156Gr Berger Elite Hunter bullets.

220 Swift😍 My first centre fire rifle was a Ruger M77V in 220 Swift and l still have it. The one I have loves Nosler 50g BTHP projectiles. Only issue Ive had was with the semi rimmed case when loading the mag in a hurry. Look forward to the sighting in video.

I've thought a lot about the 220 a lot myself... But then that damn Creedmoor came out. But you nailed it, need to find the damn rifle first!

IRON-HEAD would be proud of ya!! I believe that was his most favorite deer-hunting cahhtridge😅😅😅. Congrats!!

wow, definitely some rare ones. Yea that .220 swift trigger definitely isn't stock...man that's light! Love the looks of both of these, man they're just beautiful! Congrats on the finds. Look forward to seeing some range time with these fellas. Hope you're having great week brother!

@WHOTEEWHO

17 күн бұрын

Hope you are having a good week too. Can't wait to get these out

well done on that find man. I am working on my collection and would love to have found those.

Man you did good. I have been wanting a 220 swift. I think im gonna get a 35 whelen though first. Great video. I'm excited for you

Man!!! Love the old school! Can't wait to see the win mag up against the prc. It would be cool to get an update on that old scope too. If you like it or what not. Glad to see the old guns going to someone who will appreciate them not just throw them in the safe

I love Arken Optics so much that I would put an ep 5 on a peanut butter and jelly sandwich...oooohhhhweee.... best damn scope on a market

With the velocity of a respectable 4040fps... if you don't get that round to the Target and you so much touch a blade of grass it will not make it to the Target it will incinerate❤ great varmint round

Correct Adam VSSF the long actions were called Sendero's. They were accurate rifles. Looks like a Jewell trigger. They can go down to 2oz depending on the model. The detachable mag on the 264 is a Wyatts box mag. Both are high performance cartridges you will have a blast with them. Dont over heat the 264 when shooting it or you can torch the barrels. The 220 Swift is close to a 22-250AI.

WTW I LOVE YOUR NEW PURCHASES !! Who wouldn't be RIGHT?? Super excited for you! I'll never be able to get one a money thing but I can appreciate yours! And the 264 Win Mag too! Me well I'm on the Lower end side of things. And Savage Rifes suit me just fine!! Nice one WTW.

Now that's two very cool guns you found there. The 264 should be an extremely effective deer sized game getter and the 220 swift a great long range varmint round (you could catch some deer with it too). I love those stainless Remington's.

You must be the first person Tolliver's calls whenever any weird stuff comes in.

The 264 is great for elk and deer 🦌🦌👏👏👏👏 but in California you can't find amo for it 😢 and we have to have copper but it is a great caliber 👌👌👌👌👏👏👏💪👌

The trigger on 220 Swift--would scare me. Other than that---=beautiful Rifle--Congratulations!!!

26 nosler walks all over that 264 win mag yes the 26 nosler has a bigger case yes it was the first 6.5 magnum so ill give it huge historical bonenesses for being good in 1958

That's Awesome! I have that same 700 in 308. It's easily the most accurate thing i own. Three touching at 100 with hand loads. I've put a hole in a dime at 100 without tearing the edge. Got it second try. I can't wait for the review on it. Also on the 264 i would check the chamber throat if you have a borescope. They have an extremely short barrel life.

Couple of great finds. Enjoy!

You hit a good vein in this dig. I have the 700 VSSF in 308 I bought in 1994. These have a fantastic H-S Precision stock. Nice.

@johncmitchell4941

18 күн бұрын

The stock did look familiar and not a Rem product. Awesome feature of the model.

@WHOTEEWHO

18 күн бұрын

Right on

My Remington 700 Sendero is in 7mm STW! I put a Shilen trigger in mine & set it at 1.75 lbs. Have had mine since 1999. 1 shot Whitetail deer kills at 383, 426, & 529 yds. I've got a custom Interarms Mark X in .264 Win. Mag. It's deadly accurate.

That 220 looks like my Winchester Extreme weather 300 wsm. Great looking gun. My cousin has a .17 Remington that he brought home from the military. It is crazy accurate with a big casing and a lead that a bb won’t fit down into.

That 264 win mag is a bad dude. You are gonna love it

We all share your excitement Adam

True Story: WTW replaced his staircase with a stack of rifle cases. Next, interior walls getting replaced with ammo boxes.

@WHOTEEWHO

12 күн бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

If you keep the Swifts loads under maximum & don't let it heat up much you'll get much more throat life out of the rifle

I have that swift myself and it's a tack driver. Looking forward to seeing a few videos on it.

W D M Bell used his .220 Swift for deer in Scotland, neckshots mostly ,zeried at 150!yards,mscoped the Winn.,wrote a article about it, and reclaimed some of bullets used .

You got two gems. I look forward to the vids on these.

You found some nice pcs wtw can’t wait for the vids on them

Another great video Arken Optic i think make is one of the best for the bucks

I have an old Win Mod 70 in 220 swift. Best predator/groundhog/prairie dog gun I've ever had. I saw where one said it's a barrel eating cartridge and he is spot on. That round is a throat eating machine. Mine is on it's 3rd barrel but this one has lasted a lot longer since I don't shoot it near as much as I used to. I'm sure I don't have to tell you to hang on tightly to your brass and definitely reload for that cartridge. Factory ammo is nowhere near the performance you can get out of that particular cartridge. Although that Hornady advertised speed is on the upper level of what you can expect. Tons of good varmint bullets out there so you shouldn't have any difficulties finding one that barrel will like. My model 70 with that Hart barrel was a bit picky. Took me a minute to get a load that it liked but once I did, lets just say a dime at 200 yards is in serious trouble.

At 2:22 I thought you were imitating Ric Flair! You got a couple of nice bing-bangs there. 👍🏼

@WHOTEEWHO

17 күн бұрын

Wooooooooh!

I have the exact same rifle as the .220 Swift you got but mine is in .22-250 Rem. Bought it in 1998. I don't think it was called the "Sendero" in the small calibers. It was called something like the Varmint Stainless or something like that. Mine is extremely accurate. I think I paid around $600-$700 for it new back then. Interesting to hear that they are not cheap even when bought used.

Awesome video!! I just got done doing a 264 win mag build! A 26” stainless shilen barrel 1/8 twist on a savage 110 action! Just gotta put my scope on it and work up some hand loads!

Super cool! The 700 is legendary

The 220 swift is the king of small calibers. I have the last year Ruger MII Woodstock. Tried all ammo if you can find it skip Remington Hornady get Winchester 53gr sp. It will put 2 through the same hole and the 3rd touching. With the Hornady mine didn't even want to chamber it. After talking to gunsmith with 40 years experience he tried and said Winchester better suited the chamber and lands.