Let's play a game. It's called "let's see how many people read the pinned comment before scrolling down to make their own". We knew we had it, but it was a low priority because Optane's use-cases were few and far between and it faded from relevance shortly after our first video. Intel didn't ask for it back because of the same reasons. Also.. Please... This isn't hardware we bought, nor does it have any actual value. Engineering sample components - especially storage - gets shredded once they are sent back to to the manufacturer anyway. No starving kids were denied access to a 6TB RAM server. The "we forgot" is just a fun hook for the video because I stubbed my toe on the box in the warehouse a little while ago and thought "hey, oh yeah this thing.. maybe it would be a good vehicle for a video on what the heck happened to Optane" In a nutshell: Relax, guy. Also at 2:41 we forgot a zero and should have said 50GB x 120 = 6TB Linus

@SamNolan1

Ай бұрын

Oh 21 seconds ago.... anyways side note. A spring cleaning video once a year would be pretty cool :D

@damustermann

Ай бұрын

I hope you had safety sandals on.

@Swedishchef11

Ай бұрын

So, should I change my spinning discs to cheap optane?

@ramiwen2887

Ай бұрын

hey

@thecrazycat8745

Ай бұрын

it's ok linus, next time just don't stub your toe

I also always forget my $150.000 server

@opposedscroll7596

Ай бұрын

Hate it when that happens

@Jesus-father

Ай бұрын

me too 😔

@DJYoutube312

Ай бұрын

Same, it’s always in my laundry room cupboard

@MasterCraft_48

Ай бұрын

I always wondered why I was in debt

@bknighty28

Ай бұрын

This is how things you don't own get sold at a company. Honestly Linus transparency is nice but just do yourself a favor and avoid the target and leave stuff like that out of the video..

Hi Linus, Intel here: Can I have my server back that we sent and lost three years ago... DM for the return delivery address :D

@aaronrdaniels

Ай бұрын

Intel u owe me a 10900k still, that RMA process was not user error.

@tomihawk01

Ай бұрын

No, I'm Intel. And so is my wife.

@ethanegbertno741

Ай бұрын

Intel you still need to give me that 14900k

@raghavawasthi9593

Ай бұрын

intel, you forgot to refund me my $300,000, when are you going to do?

@Cimlite

Ай бұрын

I am Sparta... _whoops, I meant..._ Intel! Yes, I am Intel.

The Optane Persistent Memory was really good for databases where you had a large amount of random RW IOPS. It was still just WAY too expensive for what it was though.

@fish3977

Ай бұрын

I wonder if the price was an "inherent issue" with the technology or due to economics of scale

@ashtonhoward5582

Ай бұрын

​@@fish3977 I feel like it's always economies of scale. I doubt it's particularly exotic under the hood, just different enough to need new manufacturing lines.

@djordje1999

Ай бұрын

it's cheaper to buy more servers and scale horizontally and you will get much higher IOPS.. ofc if you are using distributed database..

@jp-ny2pd

Ай бұрын

@@djordje1999 When it came out it was a pretty unique thing for a while. But essentially yeah, a year or two later you could just slap NVMe's in a bunch of servers and shard/fragment/split the workload. Optane still good for latency like they demonstrated but I just never saw much of a need for it. I don't think most workloads are sensitive enough to tell the difference between 10ms and 1ms latency. If it is you just throw terabytes of real ram at it now and solve the persistency issue another way.

@TheDemocrab

29 күн бұрын

@@fish3977Partially economies of scale, partially Intel trying the same con they tried once with Rambus again. (Trying to use their market domination to break in a new memory tech with a tonne of patent baggage which means any companies not in on the con are very reluctant to try and figure out manufacturing the stuff unless they have to.) It's a real shame honestly, if it became a true standard free from any single company then it'd have a whole range of uses across the board. Even on my main desktop I wouldn't mind getting a 128GB PCIe drive to use as a dedicated swap device; the latency means it'd be faster than anything else used for swap even much newer NVMe SSDs, the write endurance would benefit that kind of usage and the non-volatility would allow it to remain suitable for hibernation and the like.

FYI: a cryptographic erase doesn't do any (significant) writes: it just erases the key and assumes an adversary will be unable to retrieve the old encrypted data.

@thewiirocks

27 күн бұрын

I think their point is that the system will have to refill that RAM on every boot, which requires a lot more writing than a storage drive that would just keep it around.

00:28 That's a big write off you got there.

@MasterCraft_48

Ай бұрын

The IRS forgot about the 150k server too

@user-fe8hp6jv9f

Ай бұрын

Waiting for another 20 min segment of Linus raging on the WAN show.

@TheCasualSubculturist

Ай бұрын

Fuck.. you got here first.

@Perseca

Ай бұрын

"Why do we still have this server, Linus?" "Take a guess, Luke." "Because you can write it off?" "Because I can write it off."

@Mrmcfastman

Ай бұрын

Glad to see someone else read between the lines

With Motherboard BIOSs it's like with tutorials for port forwarding: "You just open you routers thingie and then I can't help you because every one has a different idea of where to put it"

@sweet.2881

Ай бұрын

SUCH A GOOD COMPARISON

@ChucklesTheChicken

Ай бұрын

lmao so true

@GameCyborgCh

Ай бұрын

or PSU manufacturers uses different pinouts on their power supplies, not even within the same model now

@Smokex365

Ай бұрын

That's also assuming they even still call it ports. AT&T when I worked for them insisted on calling them pinholes. That was annoying as hell having to translate between their stupid kb articles (which any of the untrained techs would adhere to) and the actual naming.

@WayStedYou

Ай бұрын

That sounds like the horizontal shuffle too.

0:58 Doing firefly dirty here... ye may take my home take my land tell me where I cannot stand.. but with this crazy ass PC I will be serenity

The insights about Intel's optane were really informative. It's fascinating how something so remarkable could flop in the market due to timing and competition.

@Raivo_K

Ай бұрын

The pricing did not help either. It was super expensive. Even now the only PCIe 4.0 Optane model you can buy (P5800X) costs you a nice $800+ used for mere 400GB. Not to mention Intel's stupid decision to keep it to themselves and not license the technology out to other manufacturers,. They could be making a buck on every Optane sold for decades. Instead they are now stuck with half a billion dollar inventory most people dont want.

@sbrazenor2

27 күн бұрын

They entirely forgot that Optane isn't actually dead, but now a spun off company named Solidigm.

@Raivo_K

27 күн бұрын

@@sbrazenor2Optane - is dead. The SSD division than intel sold is called Solidigm. Two different things. Optane was the marketing name. 3DXpoint was the technology name and "Phase Change Memory" was the technology itself. Theoretically someone else could develop something based on this technology in the future.

I vacuumed my rug and when I went to clean out the vacuum I found seven of these that I had forgotten about.

@megapro125

Ай бұрын

You won't believe what I found in my basement last weekend. 5 floor-to-ceiling packed pallets with sealed optane drives. That's 3 more pallets than I found two days earlier in the basement.

I almost made a joke about Linus needing to make this video so he could write off the expense.. but I didn’t want to hear him go on that rant during the WAN show again. 😂

@918Boyz

Ай бұрын

if that division is gone and they liquidated inventory then he has to do the vid this fiscal quarter. Now it has a business purpose and likely keeps it from being a $150k gift. 😂😂😂

@Senthiuz

Ай бұрын

HMRC isn't going to let them just expense a $150,000 server, gotta capitalize and depreciate.

@jasenrock

Ай бұрын

Your not that special

@undercatviper

Ай бұрын

We might get cheap screwdrivers tho

@lawrencejob

Ай бұрын

@@Senthiuz it's a bit outside of their jurisdiction

I know a couple of SQL instances that would loooooove that precious ram !!

@trustytrojan

Ай бұрын

love how everyone is saying this 😂 makes sense considering most sql dbs are just huge hashtables

Crackhead idea: what if you use that optane server as a cache the entirety of your video server for a Blazingly Faster(tm) video editing experience? Or a stupidly fast Steam cache for the LAN party center?

@Tungil90

Ай бұрын

Well for 4k video 6tb probably is not enough, as I suppose they have multiple editors working at once. But the steam cache is probably a good idea! However networking will limit the speed substantially, I think... And latency is not a benefit if you just want to grab 120gb of the newest cod...? Hm just thinking out loud. What do you think?

@tanmaypanadi1414

Ай бұрын

floatplane cache....

i found two of those lying around in my garage yesterday

@urmom1144

Ай бұрын

same found a couple in my cats bed

@EkiToji

Ай бұрын

I should check inside my GameCube.

@G89-

Ай бұрын

Yeah, my dog sniffed one up too Don't know how he trained for that though...

@Melovi

Ай бұрын

Accidentally choked on one while eating breakfast

@reililithbob5541

Ай бұрын

I can’t go to a yard sale without tripping over a couple

That one guy at optain tryign to save the incoming closure "I swear LTT said they will be making a video will give us the exposure we need just wait" ...

@ChristianStout

Ай бұрын

RIP in peace to that guy

@nocturn9x

Ай бұрын

​@@ChristianStout Rest In Peace in Peace? LoL

@Alejandro192011

Ай бұрын

​@@nocturn9x Don't you mean lol out loud?

@nocturn9x

Ай бұрын

@@Alejandro192011🤣

@lnfinyx

Ай бұрын

yea, lol= lol out loud, so that means lol out loud out loud which means lol out loud out loud out loud, etc etc etc @@Alejandro192011

That Firefly joke is cruel and unusual. Time to go rewatch it I guess

now that you mention youtube thumbnails, one of the best things i ever did was download a browser extension called de-arrow, that essentially changes every youtube title and thumbnail to either a community submitted frame from the video and title or just a random frame and removes all caps from it.

Yeah sure, i just store my 200k servers in my attic. Forget them all the time I feel you linus

@LinusTechTips

Ай бұрын

we are kin -LS

@misamsy3482

Ай бұрын

no other reply let me fix that

@abyananas6227

Ай бұрын

No other "other" reply, let me fix that.

@NarikGaming

Ай бұрын

No other "other "other"" reply. I will fix nothing

@norpse9370

Ай бұрын

Must be nice to afford an attic after buying one of these, I could only afford a basement. Fml

That cruel firefly reference opened some wounds... not shiny

@shaikhulud1989

Ай бұрын

Gorram verse is too cruel

@GPHawaii

Ай бұрын

Browncoats unite!

@richardsteiner8992

Ай бұрын

Doubleplusunshiny

@PhilRennie

Ай бұрын

It's still too soon for that

I love linus (or the editors) ability to explain complex high tech stuff in such nice and simple way...underrated skills..good job guys

Postgresql database server with caching enabled. There's some optane benchmarks I want to see.

It's crazy that just such a short time ago Optane was praised as this "holy grail" and desirable thing. And then suddenly it disappeared and now no one is talking about anymore.

@Derpalerpa

Ай бұрын

Kinda makes me sad honestly.

@AndyMitchellUK26

Ай бұрын

It didn't help that like Linus mentioned, they locked it down to only making sense when paired with their top tier CPUs. It didn't make sense having 1TB support when like mentioned, you could easily just buy 1TB of server RAM anyway. They also didn't help themselves in the consumer space by locking it down to only working on Optane approved motherboards (which meant it locked out AMD CPU users from using it as it was intended). Proprietary tech is not always good and this proved it, even if it was good.

@WayStedYou

Ай бұрын

Another on the pile of dead intel promises

@tanmaypanadi1414

Ай бұрын

there are other 3d nand alternatives that got way more support from the OEMs. I think it's called CXL

@FTreba

Ай бұрын

like Linus said, it was too little, too late. It was the coolest sh*t at the time of its inception, but by the time it showed up on the shelves, you could buy all the RAM you'll ever need for $200 and gen 4 SSDs that will outlive the heat death of the universe at about the same price. And as such, there is simply no point.

2:41 that math ain't mathing

@urgay1992

Ай бұрын

Only off by one order of magnitude, I call that close enough.

@TenForceFalls

Ай бұрын

I was making sure I also wasn’t insane. I even opened my calculator

@phoenix9531

Ай бұрын

​@@TenForceFallsThe insert is wrong. He says it correctly 10 seconds prior.

@-lolus-

Ай бұрын

@@phoenix9531 well, the text shows 6TB soo still incorect

@Preske

Ай бұрын

you expect math from the same people who forgot a 150k server?

I bet Wendell would do some really weird homebrew AI with it, if it got lost down in Kentucky...

@tanmaypanadi1414

Ай бұрын

Wendell has access to boards of optane. Moore the merrier.

6:00 I don't know how to do this, but... it should theoretically be possible to write a small C library you inject yourself to override how malloc works. Then you just do your own malloc on the octane drives, and failing that, forward to the base implementation. A mate of mine did something similar using an OpenGL extension to use VRAM as RAM.

0:57 Oh, that hurts. I'm a leaf on the wind.

@VivienFRENOT

Ай бұрын

Whatch how i soar

@KenS1267

Ай бұрын

Browncoats unite!

@black8ight

Ай бұрын

I will annualy leave a new comment there ... just for the sentimental value.

@A-Parently_Gaming

Ай бұрын

"Watch how I---" *squelch* *thunk*

@BennyColyn

Ай бұрын

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal

0:58 Oof, that Firefly reference cuts deep.

That's actually impressively good for databases. Also, it fits surprisingly good to the lean Enterprise environment, where you don't yet need the distributed side of Enterprise, though having all the requirements on persistence.

10:23 Listen up thumbnail complainers! Your fate is in your hands! My money is on status quo because humans are predictable.

@time-alinge

Ай бұрын

Jokes on them I use dearrow to change my thumbnails so I don't even have to complain as my thumbnails are never bad. So do something about it if you don't like the trends. Also are there that many complainers

@jajssblue

Ай бұрын

​@@time-alingeJust check out the LTT subreddit. It's often a cesspool of people who hate LTT for some reason. I feel like this topic is brought up constantly. Also see many comments on PCMR and Gamer's Nexus subreddits.

@Raivo_K

Ай бұрын

@@time-alingeSame. Also DeArrow user here. It also changes the video titles. I hate having to open a video to find out what it's about. Only to find out im not interested and close it. Honestly i could live with the thumbnails but i hate non descriptive/clickbait video titles. Imagine searching for a video on specific topic only to be greeted with clickbait titles.

@n_core

Ай бұрын

@@Raivo_K For me it's the opposite. I used that extension before and it actually made me open each of the videos to find out what it's about. Because the thumbnail usually summarizes the whole video for me instead of a random frame from the video. Kinda counter productive you might say.

2:41 the writer forgot a 0 :D

@benwu7980

Ай бұрын

50GBx12 = ?6TB oO , pretty basic fail.

@inherentlyflawed

Ай бұрын

@@benwu7980it’s a typo…

@inherentlyflawed

Ай бұрын

Also read the pinned comment, it specifically mentions you

@fish3977

Ай бұрын

engagement farming /s

@tanmaypanadi1414

Ай бұрын

​@@inherentlyflawedThe original comment was 6 hour ago while the pinned comment came later so 🕳️

One use case that actually is engineered for the pmem mode of Optane is Aerospike, and you generally only use Aerospike in very specific industries but boy when it’s the right tool for the job it’s killer over other nosql solutions

I'm sad that Optane is gone as their Xpoint drives with their insane latency and endurance makes them a really good OS drive and seems like no one else has achieved those I/O speeds since and the crazy new innovations they came up with are really cool too

Imagine linus dropping the $150,000 server

@CanIHasThisName

Ай бұрын

It probably happened, they just didn't show it. Now, years later, it started working again mysteriously, so they made a video.

@GameCyborgCh

Ай бұрын

it's solid state, it'll be fine

@hubertnnn

Ай бұрын

@@GameCyborgCh Linus: Hold my beer

@79huddy

Ай бұрын

Him and the crew should get a couple bat's and go full office space on that server just for the giggles

I’m so glad the intros are back for good!

Since it showed up as an option ROM its likely a separate card that has that portion of the BIOS on it. Option ROMs are kinda like plugins but for your BIOS. Cards and periferals can supply an option ROM whenever they need to add functionality your BIOS doesn't have built in.

Absolutely no one, Linus we were going to do spring cleaning, but we found my missing $150,00 server, now for our segway to our sponsor.

2:40 Somehow I don't think 12 floatplane exclusives times 50GB = 6TB... more like 600GB

@jperoutek

Ай бұрын

stick says 512 gb on it

@fallenone4108

Ай бұрын

Later in the video it says 512GB per stick which equals the 6.144T there are talking about.

@swiit1

Ай бұрын

@@fallenone4108 I think they goofed in the script and just claimed each floatplane exclusive is 500gb (500*12 would be 6tb which would fit the "fit 12 floatplane exclusives in system ram" statement) All while showing text on the screen claiming each fp exclusive is 50gb not 500gb. confusing to say the least, but surely a single fp high bitrate exclusive isnt 500gb? then again, never watched one so for all i know theyre 8hrs long.

@ElNeroDiablo

Ай бұрын

12 x 512GiB Optane sticks + 12 x 32GiB DDR4 sticks. That's 6528GiB (or 6.375TiB, since 1024 GiB = 1TiB) of memory.

@jeanotzubler2477

Ай бұрын

​@@jperoutekI'm talking about the floatplane exclusives that he mentioned, not about the memory capacity

Rookie numbers. I forgot my 500k Nasa Computer in my basement. Found it today👍

If only you had demonstrated this tech right after receiving the hardware. LTT might have single-handedly saved Intel's Optane Division. /s

@MikVision

Ай бұрын

They are pretty irrelevant in the enterprise space. I can tell you as someone that worked in the data center.

@supersuede91

Ай бұрын

Bruh LTT is for gamers and noobs like me not professionals

It'd be fun to see more videos like this about products and projects that for one reason or another just didn't pan out.

Died just when it would have got useful. LLMs and image generators need huge amounts of memory. To the point where it is semi common practice to just set a swap file on SSDs and just replace it every few months when it runs out of writes.

@cartoonhead9222

Ай бұрын

That's pretty much why it died. People just resorted to using much cheaper storage as 'RAM'.

@hubertnnn

Ай бұрын

@@cartoonhead9222 In other words, it was too expensive for what it does. The question is, was it so expensive to manufacture, or did intel just want too high of a margin.

@morosis82

Ай бұрын

​@@hubertnnnit was actually a tricky tech to manufacture, I think the problem was it never got popular enough for it to hang around long enough to get the improvements that take lots of time. I wouldn't be surprised to see it come back once someone figures a hack to the manufacture that gets it a lot cheaper. It is still a cool tech, just too expensive and too niche to have taken off in a huge way like Intel and Micron wanted.

Oh, I did that too last week!

I not even disappointed this is late. I've been wanting a comprehensive breakdown of what happened with optane. ( I'm only to the Segue so far. Can't wait)

This makes a lot of sense for use cases like APFS allow where the storage can be used as swap memory.

16:45 Sounds like Intel needs to "write off" that Optane inventory.

Loving the Firefly season 2 joke

I got an Optane drive and found it quite good at holding my hard drives index data on my TrueNas box. Great at speeding up the hard drives slow random reads and writes. I wish intel stuck with Optane longer, felt like they did not give it a long enough chance to penetrate the market. Also opening it up would have helped a lot.

I have a P5800x as my Windows OS drive. Snappiest computer experience I've ever had, can basically never kill the drive, and can literally open 100 programs at the same time with not a stutter. Optane is wild, and still worth it.

8:15 That call out to Emily.. I miss Emily, I hope She chooses to return in front of the cameras again sometime. She was such an amazing LTT video host and seeing these technical videos without her knowledge and input just isn't the same.

@TheTom951guitar

Ай бұрын

2nd'd!

@ExarchGaming

Ай бұрын

she's probably afraid of the more reactionary parts of the LTT audience. Which makes me extremely sad. We all miss Emily.

@3800fiero

Ай бұрын

I will shout for joy if I see her in another video! Great host, knowledgable and humble. Overall great person.

@LycanWitch

Ай бұрын

​@@ExarchGaming yeah this has been my worry as well. However, I have a feeling Emily isn't the type of person who is easily phased by bullying or any transphobe, as Emily to me has always seemed like the type of individual who's immune to bullying and above hate. Rather, I hope that the reason they've been off camera is is she is focusing on transitioning, such as waiting until she has some feminizing procedures performed before returning to the limelight (i.e. laser/electrolysis, or even surgical procedures like FFS and breast augmentation, not to mention, the subsequent recovery time), so that when they do decide to return in front of a camera, they can be and project the self-image they wish to share with the world :) Either case, I hope she returns, and her staying away isn't a permanent. As someone who is transgender, seeing someone prominent within the tech media space as Emily was, is so inspiring not only to me but likely countless others who too are trans, gender non-conforming, and allies within the tech sphere.

@Smykeify

Ай бұрын

I miss seeing Emily on here, definitely a noticeable void in the LTT videos since her departure, I hope it isn't because of the loud minorities comments and hopefully she is just working on herself but seeing all the horrible comments on her announcement video I wouldn't blame her from not wanting to be on camera again. All the best to her either way she is an invaluable part of the team and I definitely miss seeing her present.

2:41 : 50GB x 12 = 6TB? Erm...is that why you always need new storage servers?

@fallenone4108

Ай бұрын

Later in the video it says 512GB per stick which equals the 6.144T there are talking about.

@Scarlet_Soul

Ай бұрын

@@fallenone4108 2:41 is them saying the size of their floatplane videos

I use 16 GB 2nd gen nvme optane SSDs as the boot drives in my single board computers. They work nicely. I also built an Optane thumb drive with a 2242 module and an enclosure.

He makes it a vision to new people to do crazy stuff and having that speed allowed people better understand the power and the idea it’s possible

3DXpoint was insane , it was and still is the best for your boot drive as the latency is so good.

@GameCyborgCh

Ай бұрын

sucked that they never made them for consumers. Small harddrive accelerators or enterprise grade (with a price tag to match). Sure there was the 900p but that retailed for 400 bucks for a 280 gig drive, when that came out you could have probably bought a 4TB NVME ssd for that price

@nocturn9x

Ай бұрын

​@@GameCyborgChConsidering you can buy a 4TB NvME for about 300 bucks now, that sounds about right

@Raivo_K

Ай бұрын

​@@nocturn9xAnd they only made enterprise PCIe 4.0 Optane (P5800X) that even today costs a cool $800+ for mere 400GB model. It's very competitive with PCIe 4.0 NvME in performance, even in sequential performance where 905P gets destroyed but it's so expensive that last summer i could have bought nearly 16TB worth of PCIe 4.0 NAND for that money.

So annoying when I leave a revolutionary 150k worth of server in a warehouse for 3 years

@1armbiker

Ай бұрын

Intel hasn’t made anything revolutionary in 15 years.

@GeekProdigyGuy

Ай бұрын

​@@1armbiker optane absolutely was, and tbh still is, revolutionary -- even the best SCM today only comes to a close second to 2nd gen optane from 2020... they made a series of stupid business decisions all mentioned in the video.

@nocturn9x

Ай бұрын

​@@1armbikerimagine being so stuck in fanboy land to cope this hard. Not trying to shit on AMD btw, their stuff is amazing. But Intel has done a lot of cool stuff too. They just sat on their laurels for too long in the consumer space

I mean, 905Ps are selling, they're often in the hot-items list for enterprise storage. If optane had been priced reasonably, and not been vendor locked, we'd probably all be using it by now, for root/boot, with nand for game libraries.

Too soon hitting us with that Firefly reference there. Now all the misbehaving around LTT makes scene...... Ye are all Browncoats.... SHINY!!!

6:28 but it would be a tax write off

KZread has what now? AB Testing thumbnails? Hold my beer

@samwalker7567

Ай бұрын

Yeah, that was just casually dropped in there and it's a huge deal that LTT/LMG are using it now.

@hubertnnn

Ай бұрын

I was wondering why thumbnails keep changing every time I refresh the page.

@morosis82

Ай бұрын

​@@samwalker7567 they've been using it for a while and have talked about it a fair bit.

Optane was a technology that I always hoped would eventually come down in price and become common for consumer use. After Wendell from level1 showed how it affected operating system responsiveness in a video, I was hooked. I check every few months to see if the price of a 1.6tb p5800x come down, only to be disappointed to see that they still go for $3000 on Newegg. I feel like this will be a technology in 10 or 20 years that I will be able to get at a recycling center by luck and finally get to experience its greatness long after it’s obsolete. What a bumber

6:20 a dubious ROI? Nah, just write it off! 😅

so optane requires normal ram? why not put both on a single DIMM and get benefits form both types?

@hubertnnn

Ай бұрын

I think it requires a paired normal ram only in RAM mode. In HDD mode it does not need to be paired with RAM.

What a great 150k write off 👍

now with the closeout deals how about a video on how to set up and use optain for some home user situations? home server, gaming, NAS, and any other weird use situations along with how to set them up.

7:12 THANK YOU! I have been complaining about how motherboards in general still feel like the wild west. It’s insane that we still don’t just have a standardized plug for front IO or that menus are always so drastically different.

It's a shame LTT killed Optane by ignoring Intel's last ditch effort to build hype for the product by sending $150,000 worth of hardware to a popular youtuber to showcase. Hope it was worth it Andy

In a different timeline, Optane + 3D V-cache cannibalize DRAM entirely. With the combined capacity of V-cache and speed/latency of PCIe5 Optane, DRAM would be rendered unnecessary.

@DigitalJedi

Ай бұрын

There's some dark future where on-package HBM, 3D cache, and 3D X-point (optane) would make a ram monster. You could have 10s of MB of cache, a small pool of HBM to feed the iGPU, and then a big pool of optane storage that is basically both the SSD and main ram.

@nocturn9x

Ай бұрын

​@@DigitalJedithat sounds awesome tbh

@ChristianStout

Ай бұрын

@@DigitalJedi The latest Xeons now have HBM on package, so I bet that feature will trickle down to Core CPUs before the end of the decade.

@DigitalJedi

Ай бұрын

@ChristianStout We'll kind of see it later this year! Lunar Lake will have all of its lpddr5x on-package, but won't have any external additional channels.

I’ve roasted you guys enough and Billet has had their day in the sun over on GN. The subtle nod to forgetting is hilarious.

3:15 what also increases it's endurance greatly is to keep it offline in a closet

THE RICER PC BAIT IN THE BEGINNING AAAAAAAAAA FINISH THE PC LINUS

Give it to Jeff at Craft Computing, he's been on a bit of a bender lately buying weird servers that no one else wants.

@nickloper2542

Ай бұрын

Absolutely this!

I had an Optane chip in my i7700k era PC, which did a pretty good job speeding up my (at the time) 2T hybrid Hard Drives. Sadly (or not depending on your view) its been gone for a couple of years now, as NVME drives got cheap enough at a high enough capacity to swap out the old 3.5" drives.

Saw the pinned comment, reminds me of a time when I was browsing through a pile of IT return at my company, and there was a dev kit for Intel Denverton. Opened, but never removed from the packaging, it was just a black cooler master PC case

That mainboard and chassis bending at 0:18 😵‍💫

You can use the huge amount of memory to run the largest possible large language models.

@nocturn9x

Ай бұрын

You think 6TB is enough for an LLM with trillions of parameters? Hah, you're funny.

@swcommander1661

Ай бұрын

​@@nocturn9xRiiight 🤔

Hi guys, as a vfx artist, would love to see some houdini simulations on these videos, Ocean or pyro sims will easily scale up to fill up memory (and compute) tasks at hand. and as someone who mainly uses off the shelf consumer hardware, would be lovely to see how high end servers would perform.

Someone I know uses Optane in their desktop PC. When it was built about five and a half years ago, 1TB SSDs were still uncommon and expensive. It gets used as a storage cache so the spinning HDDs he has stores and retrieves data to and from the Optane module. It's really bizarre stuff. Neat but bizarre.

This server costs more than my entire college education.

@TheChemizzle

Ай бұрын

You got lucky, it's almost half the price of mine lol.

@kaspersergej

Ай бұрын

Wait, you guys pay for education? 😂

@avonbarksdale2506

Ай бұрын

@@TheChemizzleyou got scammed then lol

@MrScorpianwarrior

Ай бұрын

​@avonbarksdale2506 Someone with 2 - going on 3 - degrees here, all college prices are a scam 🙄

@ohioplayer-bl9em

Ай бұрын

My house

Very nice job! This was so good I broke up with my girlfriend, ghosted her, disowned my parents, and quit my job. I burned all my belongings.I soon got evicted for not paying rent, but had the cops force me out. I then became addicted to fentanyl. Now I watch this while tweakin.

I'm honestly not even sure what I am going to do with the 1TB of ram in my newest server that I acquired for cheap. While the obligatory "Please send" would be fun, most people outside of large companies that could have bought it anyway wouldn't even be able to come up with proper use cases for a server of this caliber. Would make a fun project for a super low latency Minecraft (or other game with large maps to load) server. Chunks would load faster than people could traverse them.

you can probably use MMAP with storage mode and get super high performance persistent storage for stuff like LLM inference with llama cpp

Shout out to Emily for coming in clutch for the video and this amazing project.

@BravoCharleses

Ай бұрын

We miss you, Emily, and hope you're doing well. :-)

@stragen0013

Ай бұрын

Need to see some Emily vids again. They were always my favourite

@Jacob-my4fj

Ай бұрын

So glad to see someone else bringing Emily up. I miss seeing them in videos.

@mattboje6747

Ай бұрын

Emily was great, miss seeing them in videos, nice for Linus to shout them out!

@supersuede91

Ай бұрын

Based Emily

Only Linus can spend $150,000 and forget it 😂😢😢

@Fitnessdickinmymouth

Ай бұрын

$1,000,000 1PB SSD server project?

@C0mmanderX

Ай бұрын

they were given a sample to review. he didnt buy it and they didnt want it back

I'm really liking the intro being back on the latest videos.

Linus' voice: It could change our thumbnail practices! Linus' face: It 100% won't, because we absolutely know what the testing will show

Praise be to Emily nice job!!!

8:17 Ayy, Emily mention! Glad she's shill with y'all last time she want in a video a bunch of people were assholes and I'm glad they didn't scare her off. ❤❤

ive seen so many of those 16gb Optane sticks failing or causing issues with PC's and laptops. I used to keeps them and had about 30 at one point.

Funny that, I just rewatched the unboxing video yesterday and wondered where the 2nd part is.

Is this you writing off Intel's write off?

8:00 true enthusiasts go through every single setting in every sub menu. Just like they do with games, dram overclocks, their router or even a bios. Not going though the entire bios on something worth $150k is ridiculous. And I'm saying this as someone who has done over 5 dozen server builds since epyc gen 1

@julkkis666

Ай бұрын

Exactly this. This was the first thing i did when i got my fujitsu system.

Man, I hate forgetting about my 150,000 server. Knowing I'm not the only one makes me less embarrassed, thx linus😘

Dcpmm is really interesting now that compatible servers are on the used market. Would love to see a video about how that memory works for truenas caching

10k views fell off

@acornexpresspro230

Ай бұрын

Malek it hasn’t even been a hour yet

@prodbymalek

Ай бұрын

@@acornexpresspro230 joke

another Emily mention at 8:14 !! cant wait to see her in videos again if she chooses to!!

Love Linus! LOL great vid as always

Emily lives!!!! Mentioned at 8:14. I hope things are going swell for them! Also, I think this might be dope for like a Redis cache but, I have a hard time coming up with better use cases.

@shortboard_89

Ай бұрын

I hope Emily can make a regular return to the screen soon but I understand why she might not want to.

Yeah, those 16G nvme sticks are perfect for zfs write cache in your DYI NAS.

I would love a server like that for our indie game dev team. Would make a lot of tasks so much faster omg.

hate when it happens. Last week I found my 200k server that fell behind by bookcase and I completely forgot about it. I know your pain, bro in all seriousness - yesterday YT recommended me to watch unboxing of this device, so I was really surprised to see part 2 today

Ahh, yes, casually forgetting about a $150.000 server, like forgetting about the $40 order from Amazon a week ago.