You really are spot on. I like seeing real reviews and not the fake ones were KZreadrs are flown out to somewhere hot. Clearly giving a bias review so they get more free holidays. Much better seeing stuff like this in the rain. Love the review. 😍

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

I think it’s important to see bikes ridden in the bad weather and the bad roads as well. If they perform well there, then you know they are good. But don’t get me wrong, I would love to be invited to a nice warm country to review a bike but my channel is not quite there yet. Many more subscribers required. The joys of not being an attractive female. 😂. Just joking. Hopefully one day. 👍

I have to say I got mine at the beginning of December 2023 just had it in for its 9.500 mile service been as far as North Africa with no issues what so ever. I’m going next week on another trip to North Africa iv no problem putting my faith on this bike just dose everything and has everything I need in a bike. if it had a higher price I would’ve paid it…

@GillyBikes

23 күн бұрын

That’s great to hear. Still very new to the UK and lots of people nervous about buying so it’s good to hear about how good they are. Thank you for sharing 👍

Hello from Australia. I bought one of the CFMOTO 800MT's that were used as track-official bikes at the MotoGP with 300kms on it. I got it in January and I've popped 6000kms so far. I love it - it's comfortable, fast, handles incredibly well and despite my constant scrutiny, I can't fault the build quality. My 2014 Triumph Bonneville just doesn't get a look in any more.

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

Great to hear. They are still a new brand to the uk so there are still a few very sceptical people that just aren’t convinced by them yet.

Great video. Amazing bike. I think we are going to see a lot of these on the uk roads.

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

I think they are amazing, but it’s a new brand and some people need convincing. I’m convinced though. 😎

Hello again mate from Australia. Mate I really felt for you and the weather, your a real magnet , when last saw you it was raining. Good on you for doing the job and staying positive. Me, I like the entry level model as an all-rounder, the weight is a heft, it is an impressive machine, but I am if those who is not keen on tall and heavy, nor do I need the power. I had a chance on a 450 Himmie, out in the environment I ride in , back roads dirt, forest and trails, nothing to over the top, camping, did it in the weather you just experienced, as a new bike to me, we gelled if you like, so its a matter of horses for courses, so now I have to save me pennies, I am told I should try the 450 M T from CF Moto, so we will see. Once again mate well done, as a long suffering moto vloger, its not all beer and skittles, cheers.

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

Thanks mate. It’s very true. Bikes need to be bought for what you do with them. This is a good road bike. I couldn’t see it being any good for the dirty stuff. I’ve not managed to get a go on the 450 Himalayan yet. Hopefully get a go soon. I’ve heard good and bad things so can’t wait.

100% it is better looking than ANY KTM machine IMHO.

Built in 2022 I’ve been told, no traction control, went to look at one, handsome but HEAVY.

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

I never really noticed the weight. It was quite easy to move around and ride at all different speeds. It’s just very tall.

Good review 👍 Hope you get the chance to test the cl-c 450 too😊

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

I’ve done a couple of the NT’s the 800 and 650. One of those is amazing 🤩. Hopefully get a video out in a week or 2.

Thank you for the content. Nice work. Question: Are any KTM parts interchangeable with this bike?

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

The engine is the same so I would expect if it’s a part for that then yes but the bike was very different to look at. So I would say it depends which part 👍

Picked up my CF 21:21 700MT yesterday, tried the 800 and it was just too tall and chunky for me and what I needed.Tried the Voge 525 and that was just a little too buzzy for me and again my needs. Tried the Benelli 702 and that surprised me and took me into the 700 range however appearance wise it looked rough around the edges. 2 clinchers for me is the silencer down low so as not to intrude on the pannier space and the other a centre stand which for some strange reason the 700MT does not have 🤬

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

What I like about that is you tried them all and bought the bike which suited you. You would be surprised at just how many people don’t ride before they buy. 👍

Nice bike and a great review. I've just seen the details on the new Kove 800. which looks awesome and supporting the KTM 790R engine. These bikes from China are making a massive impact. Cheers

@GillyBikes

26 күн бұрын

They really are. It’s brilliant. How’s the new bike doing?

@mikelyon01

26 күн бұрын

@@GillyBikes all good mate. Can’t wait to get it on a long weekend run. ABR sounds about right 👍.

@GillyBikes

26 күн бұрын

@mikelyon01 I’m still gutted I can’t make that. Have they put dates out for next year. I need to make sure I’m available for it.

@mikelyon01

26 күн бұрын

@@GillyBikes we can make our own festival. Me you , Taf and big Dave. A getto blaster and a large gazebo 😂.

@GillyBikes

26 күн бұрын

As long as Billy Dykes doesn’t come I’m down for that 🥳

Nice looking bike. Here in Canada, they are priced the same as the 800 V Strom, the 750 Transalp, and the 700 Tenere. I don’t think they will sell many here until they’re sit around, become non current models, and then offered at a deep discount. The non adventure CF Motos here seem to be priced lower than their competitors so maybe they’ll have more luck with those.

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

That surprises me. Over here they are cheaper than all of the ones you’ve mentioned.

Nice bike! But I’ll take the Vstrom 800 RE! 😊

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

I’m going to try that soon. So I will let you know if it’s better 👍

I can't get used to it having lived in Australia for more than half my life... but the size of those registration plates.... 1hp drag right there!

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

Yes. The uk 😭. Smaller plates look better but over here you can fail your M.O.T and if pulled over fined.

I looked at this bike and really liked it. But I got myself a 900 tiger rally pro I the end. The only thing I didn't like was the lack of dealerships in the UK 😢

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

I think that might grow now. A few of the MotoGB shops have started selling them. Hopefully more will follow.

Looking at it dead on from the front, it reminds me a lot of the latest gen Triumph Tiger.

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

They do look similar 🧐

That looks really big 🧐.

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

Just like every other adventure bike. It was nice and light to ride though 👍

Nice review. Nice bike, no doubt. What strikes me, however, is the remark at 12:50, about the u-turn. You seem to make the capability of making a u-turn to be a function of body height? Sorry, wasn't the essence of u-turns that you do not touch the ground. How then would height matter?

@GillyBikes

2 күн бұрын

For test purposes yes the idea is not to touch the floor. But in reality performing a tight u-turn with a heavy bike can often cause people to drop their bikes. I’ve seen it happen quite a few times. Being small is definitely an issue for this. If you happen to lose balance and go to put your feet down to steady the bike, it’s much more difficult to do on tip toes it’s very easy to lose it and end up laying it down. If you’re taller and flat footing a bike with both feet you are less likely to drop it.

@momaassen2516

23 сағат бұрын

@@GillyBikes Frankly, am I daft? What you describe, is an apparent lack of technique, which makes you paddle through the turn. Obviously, the inseam-challenged may face a problem, or two. But making a proper u-turn is exactly what those people should learn to make their lives easier. At 6'7", I never have a need to paddle my way through a u-turn. Side note: isn't riding circles and eights part of standard motorcycle instruction world wide? Why then are so few people capable of doing so?

@GillyBikes

21 сағат бұрын

Yes, you do it for a test. yes you should be able to do it. But I’ve seen a few drop them whilst losing balance.

looks good, sounds good and hopefully doesn't have the same top end problems the KTM version of the engine has

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

It’s the same engine, but I would imagine it’s been tuned differently so hopefully not.

Went to have a look at the 800MT and was very impressed with the level of equipment and the quality. I just found it too big and tall for my little 5ft.7in 62kg frame. The 450MT was on the radar but has been slow to be released so I've ended up with a new Honda NC750X due to the 800mm seat height but you get nothing with the Honda. Not even a usb charger!!!

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

That’s the joys of buying a Japanese bike. You get nothing extra for free. Voge, CFMoto and Benelli give you all the extras for nothing.

@graemetaylor629

Ай бұрын

Your going to get a really reliable and long lasting bike though

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

True. These bikes are new so no one knows how long they will last, however I’ve seen the really cheap and nasty Chinese bikes last for 1000’s of miles because they have been looked after properly. I don’t see why these more premium ones wouldn’t last.

Like it,but would never buy a new bike.Will wait a year of 2 and get a used one

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with that. Let someone else take the financial hit.

@bodziobsz

14 күн бұрын

Its not only that. If you planning to commute to work every day like over 60miles trip then 4 years warranty on these bike are quite tempting acctualy.

@GillyBikes

14 күн бұрын

Yes. Thats much better than most.

Does it have the same chocolate camshaft as the KTM

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

I hope not 😁

Geeez, does it ever not rain over there?

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

Yes, but I’m normally at my day job. Rain waits for my days off. Everytime I get chance to ride. 😭

I like these bikes for the value and style ,but what worries me is the beating heart.... I've seen lots of cam shaft issues with that engine and not been much revelation as to what the cause actually is ... I know the warranty is very good but KTM and the basic parts to repair the chewed up head and camshaft ancillary's are only discovered when it's first valve adjustment is due or it dramatically fails prematurely. Like to see a long termer of these models to see if this issue carries over to this range of bikes ?

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

I do get to go on quite a few older bikes as well. If I get the opportunity to get on one of these with a few years and miles on it then I will definitely give it a go.

looks great brand new bike with all the stuff just wait till they go to 50,000 miles and see how they realy are

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

That’s very true. We can look back in a few years and see 😁

@solidsnake3861

Ай бұрын

@@GillyBikes lets hope it will be good

I think CF is tends the top of the pile when it comes to bike design. Many an established brand should take a slice of them. I especially love the 700 sports and the 800 NK. A small niggle with this one though. From the rider perspective the display seems to be mounted on a sort of shoebox. Very un-CF. 😁

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

I’ve just had a go on the 800 NK. Wow that was fun. 😍

just the longevity like regular japanese bike i will wait a few years but i would buy this brand new or maybe the voge 900 dsx but like mt800 a bit more

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

This was really impressive. I’m really looking forward to having a go on the Voge. I’m told it should arrive next month. 👍

@solidsnake3861

Ай бұрын

@@GillyBikes great let us know

Being a better looking bike than a KTM is saying much😜😂😂. MT800 is a good looking bike but until they get more dealerships involved it will only ever be a niche bike. Interesting reading the comments about how bad Chinese bikes are reminds me of the mid to late 60’s when we heard the same comment thrown at the Japanese. And look where we are now.

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

MotoGB have put them into 4 of their dealerships I really hope they go into more. It’s history repeating itself, I’m sure in 10 years everyone will have one.

how you do this?i cant get it.riding in the rain?you miss all the pleasure

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

That’s very true. I do it so others don’t have to. 😂. If it rides well in these terrible conditions then you know it’s a good bike.

@thodoris3790

Ай бұрын

@@GillyBikes so,is it?

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

Yes. Even though the weather was shocking it still performed really well. I still had fun. So it gets a 👍 from me.

@thodoris3790

Ай бұрын

@@GillyBikes thanks!

I'd like to see what it will look like in 10 years time with 60k miles done.

@GillyBikes

20 күн бұрын

Me too. Only time will tell how it holds up. All I can say is new they look good / well made.

Sport mode out of the question, in the uk

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

😂😂. Except for that 1 week of sun we sometimes get 😂

I went to see one. No where near the quality of the main manufacturers. But that's the price point, so OK. Huge gamble buying one, and the resale value here on just a 2 year old is half the price. I brought a 2nd hand F750GS fully optioned and very pleased.

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

It’s just another option. I bought a new Yamaha it lost 50% of its value in less than 12 months. And I got it cheap. Infact at full price being around £16,000 after just less than 1 year and 5000 miles the same place offered me £4500 for it !!! I never thought buying a Yamaha would be a gamble but we all live and learn 😭

Awesome. 😂 ...if u do disagree with me...your wrong!😂😅

@GillyBikes

23 күн бұрын

🫣

"We have GS at home"

@ralliant5941

Ай бұрын

But they cost 3x the price 🤣🤣 and are even more heavier

@marton_horvath

Ай бұрын

@@ralliant5941 You are not familiar with the meme then, and I'm not sure that's a bad thing.

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

Nice bikes. Very expensive for the new / nearly new. These are less than half the price! But certainly not half the bike. 👍

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

@ralliant5941 the GS is heavy but because the weight is really low down it feels surprisingly light. But can’t argue with the price. Stupidly expensive

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

Now I have to search Google 😂

You get a lot of bike for the money.

@GillyBikes

7 күн бұрын

You really do. If it had a Japanese badge on it, it would be 50% more expensive

China is doing what japan did in the 70s cf moto are getting better at building motorcycles

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

Yes. There are a few of them. CFMoto, Benelli and even keeway have really improved their standards but keeping prices low 👍. Great for us buyers.

China is really making some awesome bikes, it's going the same way as the awesome Chinese car market.

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

They have really upped their game with the bikes. Seen a few decent electric cars over there as well. Just a shame by the time the arrive to the Uk their price doubles 😭

How can you review a bike at 30 mph after 5 min and say you can drive this bike all day ???

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

Good question. Simply put in the last couple of years since starting my channel I’ve been on hundreds of bikes. I’ve toured all over Europe and on some days ridden for 15 hours. I now know from a very short ride if the seating position is one that I would suffer with or not. If the seat, legs, foot placement and back are in a good position I know. The same way I know a sports bike I can ride for about 30 minutes without getting wrist ache and back ache. I now exactly what riding position suits me. However I will say we are all different shapes and sizes so what I find comfortable may not be for someone else. I’m at an age now were I find the riding position of adventure bikes just suits me.

I test rode this bike a few months ago, I really wanted to like it but i found it one of the worse bike iv ever ridden, the fueling was awful to point of being dangerous in town traffic, that was in sport mode, I just found trying to change the mode was a real faff, so i left it in sport, the quick shifter wasn't great, seamed like i was forcing it to change. Such a shame because it is a lovely looking bike.

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

It is a bit jumpy in sport mode and the quick shifter is just like the KTM to be honest I just didn’t use it because I’d seen a few comments out it being bad. I just rode it like it didn’t have one. The bike itself is just like the 790 Adventure but looks better. To save your time I wouldn’t bother testing that if you didn’t like this one. 👍

@geertwanten1841

Ай бұрын

The new mapping solved this issue. I have the new explorer model and it’s a total different bike. Not jerky at all.

@index6738

3 күн бұрын

Fuel map update helps but may also require throttle remap procedure to completely solve snatchy, jerky throttle. Combined throttle inputs linear and smoother.

That is one overweight bike! Try testing a 3 year old one and you will see why loads of people ar not buying them.

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

I will try what ever they put in front of me. If it’s good I will tell you and if it’s rubbish I will tell you. All I can say is this appears to be a very good bike. Hopefully they last for thousands of miles.

@geertwanten1841

Ай бұрын

😂 yeah and that’s why they sell so much bikes these days… because loads of people are not buying them 🙈 Show me what bike you’ve got then. I have a 22y old suzuki bandit and the weight is the same as the cfmoto. I also own a cfmoto 800mt explorer since last month and I like the flexibility and the comfort of the bike. At the end it doesn’t feel heavy.

@dsmpampis

Ай бұрын

This is what I am afraid of… I was shortlisted one but after seen a lot of videos I decided to go with a F850gs…

@firestorm755

Ай бұрын

I think they look great. I went to my local dealer to pick fault with one😂 but the quality of components looks too be the same as any other bike in the showroom of euro and jap bikes. It felt comfortable too, not ridden one yet though. Also bear in mind that CF Moto have been building engines for KTM for a long time, it's not a new thing. The only thing I'd be concerned with is that one KTM guise the 790 suffers lubrication problems to the top end. Saw a vid recently, an owner has only done a few thousand and needed new head and cams. KTM refused warranty claim too

@maskedavenger2578

Ай бұрын

Like all bikes it will depend on how well they have been serviced & looked after by their owners ,as to what mechanical & cosmetic condition they after 3 years ownership & use . A heavy bike can be a good thing , it will be more planted on the road , especially in strong winds & motorways . Also it can mean the frame is made out of proper strong steel & not light alloy which can crack easily & also go oval where the steering head bearings are seated on lighter alloy frames . I suspect that the only reason people may not buy them is more due to their misconceived snobby pretentiousness , & their need to be seen to be riding a big brand name like their equally snooty pretentious peers .

Every bike looks better than a KTM...

@GillyBikes

Ай бұрын

That’s very true. It’s a very low bar 😂