Here it is! The new 5er - and this time, the electric one! So much to discuss when I talk about one of the most important cars in the BMW lineup and even after an hour I didn’t share everything I wanted to. Thanks for watching our nerdy reviews as always, I really appreciate it ⚡️

@andrewhurstcars

9 ай бұрын

Best EV reviews!

@bavariancarenthusiast2722

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing and reviewing Kyle! This one is on my short list for feb next year! Great. Did you get feedback from the BMW guys regarding the route-planning delay and overheating hiccup?

@trixlee5102

9 ай бұрын

How's the driving experience versus something like the Audi E-tron GT?

@tjts1

9 ай бұрын

Will there be a wagon?

@danimper2517

9 ай бұрын

Your reviews and videos are so good! :)

I’m glad for this review as there are so many people bashing it without actually having the means of trying it or purchasing. I’ve been in the i5 and i7 - and test drove every single EV in the UK market. The i5 is by far the best.

Yes agree about the low speed calibration, finally was able to test drive a mini se (the old one) and it was SO smooth at low speed. Loved it so much and surprisingly felt like a Mini

I still think the i4 makes some more sense since it’s a hatchback. They just need to take away the hump, push the motor a bit further and stretch the seating area by that amount and they have the best possible platform for bmw ev for years to come

@cobrachannel100

9 ай бұрын

Exactly, but it is not possible, since it is based on an ICE platform.

@MaestroWenarto

7 ай бұрын

I hate my frameless i4, the windows shake when I close the door, absolutely hated the hatchback

I miss the i3. That was my favorite! They should bring it back!

@user-longtingfan

9 ай бұрын

Get a Mini, it is basically an i3 with a nicer look

@thedatroxde

9 ай бұрын

no @@user-longtingfan

@peterhammer6915

9 ай бұрын

@@user-longtingfan i3 looks a million times better than a Mini. It's a classic.

Great stuff Kyle. Good looking car.

Route planning in the BMW app is awesome. Set arrival state of charge, destination state of charge, choose charges etc. and better than Tesla app routing. Way more options for getting there how you want - out of spec style. Car should also have similar options. We always use app in the i4. 22:48

I allways enjoy your reviews. Thanks

@OutofSpecReviews

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I definitely want to test drive it! I really like the new 5 contrary to others (so it seems), it really is a modern, more clear and sleek design and since the current BMW EVs are some of the best in the market, the new i5 should be a great car. I'm not in the market for one - I'm young and drive an old E39, but I am very interested to see what now almost 30 years of progress have done to the 5.

@KyleConner

9 ай бұрын

E39 is still peak 5 series but in a modern context, I think you’ll love this car

@The_Stanman

9 ай бұрын

I'm with you. I dislike most modern BMW designs, but I like the i5 inside and out. I'm youngish (32) and considering getting one as a daily to complement my 911 for family duty. With oversupply in the EV market and $7500 tax credit, should be able to score crazy cheap lease deals on one in the next year.

@Iceeeen

9 ай бұрын

I think I could live with this if it wasn't for the stupid screen, at least it isn't a suv, even though way to big. The e39 has hands down a 100 times nicer and more luxuryor. What's even the point of the stuff they load them up with today. It cool for 5 minutes and then you just want to get on with it. Navigation as standard, how lost do you have to be to need it for everyday. bleeh

@The_Stanman

9 ай бұрын

@@Iceeeen unfortunately big screens are becoming the norm as they all try to copy Tesla. I'm glad they at least kept some controls like the rotary dial. It has more physical controls than Audi and Merc.

Can't believe I'm saying this about a new BMW. Looks good!

Love to see your reviews where I usually drive around. Cheers ;-)

Really like the charts

Hi Kyle, out of all the EVs you've had experience with, which brand/model has the best regenerative braking system?

Perfect for driving from San Diego to Seattle on i5!

The home screen could be different things in addition to the navigation. Drag from the right edge to select different home modes

ACC Stop & Go + Active Driving Assistant is standard in the US. Optional is Highway Assistant

@ThatSteez

9 ай бұрын

The Dynamic Cruise control is standard. ACC Stop & Go is a part of the Premium Package. Highway Assistant is a part of the Driving Assistance Profession Package

Since KZread prevents you from including copywritten music in a video when you check out the audio system why not use a simple sound check audio file through the USB port which should work on any car. Just a thought to make it so we can "hear" the audio system and this would improve your video content?

Thanks for this!! I was planning on getting this but looking at some early numbers it might be outta my price range. I currently drive the 530e so was just gonna upgrade to the 24 but hearing that theyre delaying it kinda bums me out.

The sweet spot is $80K lol

@nikolaninkov

9 ай бұрын

"reviewers" are really just advertisers

@thanosianthemadtitanic

9 ай бұрын

i thought eletric cars where suppsoe tk get cheaper over time. guess that was a lie

@justaute

9 ай бұрын

@@thanosianthemadtitanicit has. This is a bmw, a premium brand. Just look at Tesla, Kia, Hyundai, etc…not saying it’s all inexpensive, but it’s trending that way.

@Josh-179

9 ай бұрын

​@@thanosianthemadtitanic, I said from the beginning that electrics would never come down as much as promised. Batteries are inherently expensive no matter how many you make. Just go to the store and buy a pack of AA's that hasn't changed in decades and hundreds of millions of them are made. Yet they keep going up in price. So even when EVs are at full production scale, they'll still be expensive.

@thanosianthemadtitanic

9 ай бұрын

@justaute the hyundai ionic 6 is $30k more expensive than its gas counterpart what are you saying. That's just one example its across the board eletric vechiles are not getting cheaper

I have this car for a week and drove it hard and it never overheated (I5 M60)

I believe its the same i4 powertrain and battery. Pretty similar kWh and internals, probably some minor yearly improvements. i4 uses Samsung SDI NCM prismatics and these look very similar

A friend of mine who owns a BMW IX had a light collision with road debris that punctured the front passenger bumper. It hit some critical electronics and rendered the car undriveable. It was at the dealer for 3 months and cost $20,000 to fix. I understand modern cars are expensive to fix but why BMW placed critical electronics directly behind the plastic bumper is a real problem.

Can't believe I'm saying this about a new BMW. Looks good! Sure, the F90 was perfect, but I can live with this

@KyleConner

9 ай бұрын

F90 was just so damn good. Especially M5 CS, what a car! Hard to follow that one up but this is so much nicer to look at than i7 at least

@buddy1155

9 ай бұрын

I was fine with all BMW grill shenanigans (Okay, last 7-series maybe not) but this grill looks just weird.

@0-Will-0

9 ай бұрын

@@buddy1155 yes, why can't they do more asking the public before putting these designs out!

@buddy1155

9 ай бұрын

@@0-Will-0 They do, they ask the group that buys the most, for the 7-series that are the Chinese.... That is how you end up with a massive chrome grill and LED's that can change colour all over the interior.

@hartoz

9 ай бұрын

Looks good? Seriously? It's hideous.

Please, Kyle, ask BMW is the US version will have amber indicators?

12:50 yes the i40 AWD. I always thought this about the i4 as well. Im a swede and awd would be appriciated. All competitors has that option and for example most teslas here has awd.

I am from Atlantic Canada Love your reviews. Are you planning to do an in depth review on the i5 M60 with a road trip at home any time soon?

Remind the BMW software engineers that it would be good to see the DC kWs coming into the car from the App and being able to change the AC temp. Oh and the Sat Nav is not that great for planning your charge. Needs a lot of work still (I drive an iX 50)

I agree the grill is not as bad, but it still has a large piano black plastic grill and what purpose does it serve? Is it just ornamental? This reminds me of what BMW did to the MINI Cooper design with each iteration. Introducing skeuomorphism into when there was a need to eliminate or replace certain functionalities. Replacing a functioning air intake hood scoop with a fake one (the transition from supercharging to turbo). Eliminating the center speedo but retaining the circular trim and dropping in a rectangular infotainment system with ornamental “spacer” plastic. Maybe the grill will slowly become smaller with each design refresh.

Super cool

It's amazing when you add up the little things that define a product. You have to pull to refresh (PTR) to get the app to update the battery percentage? That's just bad technical design. All these things add up and mean so much more than companies realize. 18:05

Next time in Portugal, I would be honored to meet you! And to talk about intelligent charging systems that actually will allow everybody to charge their cars, without augmenting the public power infrastructure that much.

Thx for the vid #4

@KyleConner

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

How does this compare to the base Taycan or Taycan 4S sedan in your opinion?

Love it……with NACS!

The eyes lane change is only after the car prompts (ask the driver) for a lane change. Only when the driver looks at the right or left mirrors within a really short time, the car will make the lane change.

Nice, will buy it second hand in 8 years

not a compromise to not have the frunk. I got plenty of friends that owns Teslas, almost no one uses the frunk.

Hmm last year when Bjørn reviewed the i4 it also had a cooling system fault due to a defect which severely limited his charging. Just a coincidence that now another press car BMW EV seems to be defective again.

Yes, the 5 looks much, much better than the 7. And Yes, BMW must adapt the NACS. With a bit more range and NACS I would go back to BMWs and ditch the Teslas in a heartbeat. Great review, as usual, Kyle.

@fazeobama8872

8 ай бұрын

nacs?

@JustMe99999

18 күн бұрын

@@fazeobama8872 Tesla's proprietary vehicle charging port.

As a Tesla owner I would consider a non Tesla EV in the future but I won’t consider a vehicle without NACS and access to the supercharger network. Of course that could change in things pick up in the CCS world but it feels like NACS is the winner and CCS is Betamax.

I love the New vehicles from BMW because they have a lot of cool technology including the hands free BMW voice assistant that you can activate by saying Hey BMW and there’s a lot of commands to say to the car and another cool BMW feature is gesture control which allows you to move your hands in front of the iDrive infotainment system touch screen to do a bunch of different programmable hand gestures and you can move your finger in a clockwise rotation to turn the radio volume up and you can move your finger in a counter clockwise rotation to turn the volume down and i love the gesture control it’s pretty cool what features are in the BMW some of which are hidden in the cars settings on the touchscreen

21:01 With other OEMs targeting 50C, seeing BMW at 25C has me thinking they have the secret sauce

@NIAtoolkit

9 ай бұрын

55:37 I’ve come to the conclusion that they need to expand the temperature envelope. With all the rigorous testing they do, this was likely a technical oversight

I don't think you mentioned your height when showing the interior space and legroom. Would be good to understand from both measurements too (imperial and metric).

Carwow said they could hear water dripping with AC on, on the i5. Did you have the same issue?

Funny that the twisty road where you drove it's pretty close to my parents house, I've driven that twisty road probably a thousand times xD P.S. you turned arround but further ahead the roads are pretty epic also ;) I know you didn't have a lot of time though.

@brunoheggli2888

8 ай бұрын

Wow so nice,you still have parents!

@JustMe99999

18 күн бұрын

Cool story bro.

For information, the review was at Ericeira

I just checked the pricing and in our country this costs almost as much as a Porsche Taycan 4S, which has similar stats. So if you dont need a bigger trunk and slightly bigger backseat, I can't see people buying the M60 model. Of course family with bigger children need more space, so maybe for them. My kids are already out of the house...

What’s the exterior cooor on this model ?

When will it be in the USA?

Kyle have you thought about coming to the uk and testing our EV network or cars you can't get in the US?

Coffee Run video for the Hybrid in electric mode

I've owned a BMW i4 eDrive 40 for about a year now and I wish I would have waited for the i5, if only because of the roomier interior it provides over the "coupe" configuration of the smaller i4. The mechanicals are all the same....precise steering, nice ride (along with the adaptive suspension), fast enough. And the range has been a pleasant surprise, as it is clearly BMW policy to under promise in that regard. On a recent trip, I drove 243 miles with an indicated remaining range 110 miles (far more than the advertised 282). I'm sure the i5, with a promised figure of 295 miles, can easily exceed that. I average about 3.7 miles per KWH with the same drivetrain, which is very good as far as I can tell.

@bavariancarenthusiast2722

9 ай бұрын

Great point, I was hold up taken the i4 because its small inside, but I like the hatch in the back - BMW did not have a longer distance EV for me in the lineup, maybe this one is. Last year there were no i5 available yet - there is always a way to trade "up" :)

@meech3889

6 ай бұрын

Did you think the i4M50 was worth 20k more than your i4M40? I ordered an i5 40 over the 60 because 20k for the speed and HP didn’t justify it for me. I’m just trying to pick your brain and see if I should order the faster version.

@joemartino6976

6 ай бұрын

@@meech3889 I have the i4 eDrive 40, which is the single engine, slower version. All of the reviews I saw mentioned that the single motor version was a better balanced car in terms of ride and handling. It's still a very fast car, but I am drawn to a BMW because I wanted a balanced chassis. Paying $20K more for the M50 for better acceleration but a more unbalanced chassis just didn't appeal to me.

@meech3889

6 ай бұрын

@@joemartino6976 Thanks for replying! I was feeling the same way I can’t justify the 20k upcharge especially since the 40 version is fast as well. TBH it feels faster than what BMW lists it as I drove both I wasn’t overly impressed with the 60 version of the i5.

they try to fake a muffler on the M BMW FR?

Kyle you need to start announcing where you'll be participating on events. You've just been on my village, should I've known that I would have gone to meet you and drive you around the city on my model Y.

Do people even use backseat pockets?

Wery awkward backseat fold down ! Was it just a release handle in the trunk ? No spring loaded seat ? Can’t it be released from the cabin ? You have to walk around the car to fold down the seats,,,, what a design flaw !

This makes me miss my E39 540i. If I can get an honest 210- 220 mi in between charges on road trips, I think I'd be good to go with this car.

@pete64041

8 ай бұрын

Just get a PHEV BMW and then no waiting

@trullmann

8 ай бұрын

@@pete64041 They don't have the range in electric that I want.

@pete64041

8 ай бұрын

@@trullmann My X50e gets around 55 miles...Which is more than i do on the daily...Engine for road trips...It's the perfect car...

@trullmann

8 ай бұрын

@@pete64041 I do like the X5 series hybrids. But in line with his video of being a full electric car, that's what I'm after, not a hybrid. I currently have a Hennessy Raptor pickup and love the thing so for me it's not about saving money or mileage. It's about the range for a full electric car and I want a BMW.

BMW could choosen a different design line. in the past they had so nice cars with a low front, which would be good to develop an good, sleek car. just look for 850csi, M1, z1

Looks like you're till in Europe? I thought you were going to the main auto show there in Germany. Where's the videos from that?

Was that about a dozen stops over 2000km (roughly 1240 miles)? Stopping approximately every 100 miles? Not good.

Only the myr 2024 after April 2023 iX will get OTA update for full autonomous driving! I have the bad iX ( 2023 myr)

It’s so interesting how new EVs are always being compared to Tesla which is like the default gold standard for EV execution. So I don’t really know how to justify paying premium for a bmw when they are just playing catch up to a less expensive car

Having owned an 2001 5 series and recently as of last year an i4, I find the rear on the new electrified 5 series to be on the ugly side..like a lot.

@UNLOCKsilo

9 ай бұрын

The front isn't any better

Waittttt the blue Nissan rogue sport behind Kyle 😭☠️ can that come in America LOL

@Fuentes6544

9 ай бұрын

No electric please 💀. Electric vehicles are becoming flops in America and pleaseeeee stop putting a 3 cylinder in the cars 😭😭 and don’t make them so cheap plastic cars from Nissan. LOVE THEM but just 📉

BMW Best EV ❤

Can’t abide the shiny black on the exterior.

I'm not sure why you compare to the i7, which has way more luxury? This seems more like a bigger version of the i4, with basically the same features.

@BogeyTheBear

9 ай бұрын

Because he can't compare it to the i4 since they're too similar. I can see in the future them dropping the Gran Coupe version of the i4 and going with the 2-door coupe model instead, opting to leave the 4-door midsize option to the i5.

Bmw i5 vs Id.7 for comfort which one is better?

@jonpetter8921

9 ай бұрын

Maybe the id7, but the i5 maybe the more sporty

There will be no major change in non Tesla charging reliability until the EV manufacturers start putting pressure on the EVSE providers to improve. It is costing the CCS EV manufacturers sales. Dave’s selling the Lucid is a perfect example. EA and others have little incentive to fix the infrastructure. If my 640i GT had been an EV, I’d still own it.

@peterhammer6915

9 ай бұрын

LMFAO. There are way more reliable EV:s on the market than Tesla. My friends Tesla has been in repair for 3 months waiting for parts. What kind of car company does things like that? In Europe the Ionity Network is great, have been on multiple long trips with my EV, without a single charging issue.

I see they add STEERING WHEEL PEDAL!!! Assuming the New 2024 i4 will have it too? If not, I would be sad.

How does it work guys? Do you buy a new and new car every time and then sell it after a short time?

I met a group of MB big camouflaged sedans last March winter testing in Sweden , charging at 800V and >200kw, assuming faster charging coming

@KyleConner

9 ай бұрын

That’s exciting!

@bullshitbingo2259

9 ай бұрын

That's the Mercedes CLA and has been known for a while now. The CLA concept was revealed at the IAA in Munich in September. Except for the head and backlights, the rims and the all-glass roof the outside styling will be identical to the concept. At the inside they definitely keep the pillar-to-pillar screen on the dashboard. The revealed stats of the biggest battery CLA model are 4,75m length, 250kW max charging, 465 miles of range with a 90.x kWh battery. The CLA launches early 2025 with a starting price of slightly under 50k. Big battery model will most likely start around 60k. They will also bring a station wagon version of the CLA called CLA Shooting Brake.

@bavariancarenthusiast2722

9 ай бұрын

Yes that must be the new next gen platform for next year! :)))

@larserikpettersen6658

9 ай бұрын

@@bullshitbingo2259 That make sense , could not see much of the car under the camouflage, headlights on this car looked like they came from some old S-class

That tan/greenish color interior on the M60 is merino leather, not veganza.

That's a good looking BMA. It has mercedes vibes in its design DNA

Is it just me, or does this look very generic next to past generations of the car? The Passat, ID.7, Accord, and now 5 series all have the same back end. I’m all for taking chances, but where’s the BWM identity in the back? The hoffmeister kink is barely implied. I do appreciate that the grille is not scaled up to 400% like other recent models, though.

What about the cop version?

Will tjere be a rourinf vrsion ?

@Knnnkncht

9 ай бұрын

2024

I want a BMW EV, but the lack of NACS is a big deterrent for me.

Over an hour… I will need to circle back when I can set aside that kind of time.

Why don't they make the floor in the rear flat, being that it is an electric car, such as Tesla, and Lucid.

Marketing dept:"We could fit a frunk" Engineering dept:"No way"

i4 Hatch Back is way to go, they could just make this Bigger Size and Better interior i4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sooo....the i5 M60 or the Lucid Grand Tour????

@peterhammer6915

9 ай бұрын

Lucid?? the most unreliable EV on the market?

These cars at these prices and current interest rates , make them only watchable on KZread

Love the content and would love to hear all the details. Unfortunately, ANOTHER HOUR long video I don't have time to sit down and watched. Liked what I saw as I fast-forwarded through the whole thing. Kyle does great work, just need to cut out some of the repetitive rambling to get to the point faster. Likely would end up with a lot more views. Just my 2-cents. Looks like a great car. But any car pushing over $80,000 should have a bare, bare minimum of 300 real world miles in range.

Glad you told them the need for NACS access. Come on BMW (and Porsche) make a NACS announcement. Until then I’ll stick with Tesla.

Appreciate how thorough the review is.. Would be interested to see your review on the ICE too even if its just the 530 to see how that feels to drive too! To me this 5 series design almost looks a little like BMWs version of an American muscle car so it'll be interesting to see the M5.

23:09 it felt good because it WAS leather😂

Well the site here, your site, has caused the search feature to disappear. Hmm? Why? So.., only a person with nearly infinite free time could find the particular review. This observation is made for your benefit really.

The hideous grill is gone😂

That sensor in the kidneys is ruining the whole front. Couldn’t they put it somewhere else? Goddamn!

The obvious reason for the E40 to weigh hundreds of pounds more than a Model S P85 is to be really quiet. Missing that is disappointing. At least they dropped the tall grille and avoided the i7's stacked healights.

The power delimit after you driving hard for like 1-2 minutes is ridiculous. Remind me of Teslas from 5 years ago. Currently Teslas still do but you have to really cool them

alwsome video good job

"the dark headliner is absolutely epic." Really? Epic?

Somebody should call the BMW design department and tell them that they're all fired because they've absolutely lost the plot.

You can get a Model S for that price. A lot more car for the money

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They still haven't fixed the Navigation? That's awful, BMW.

This car is so long but the back seat is so cramped, the leg space is horrendous