What some people don't get, it's that the target customer for the BMW i5 don't really care about efficiency to prefer a Model Y. It's like saying he should buy a Lexus IS instead of a BMW M5 because it has less fuel consumption.

@drive-channel1834

Ай бұрын

That's like saying that the target customers are stupid. I don't disagree. I know. I'm one of them. 😁😄

@drive-channel1834

Ай бұрын

And that empty long hood sounds kinda like an empty long head. My favorite. 😁

@alexmanojlovic768

Ай бұрын

You mean M5 DOESN'T stand for [ Mpg x 5 ] ?? 😂😅🤣

@thewolf61691

Ай бұрын

Yep we want the barking turbo V8 and that's what we'll keep buying

Why all the shiny/reflective plastics inside and out? It looks a bit cheap to me; I still do not get the BMW front. However, it has very nice profile. I am sure the drive and feel is really good. It is a bit strange it is so heavy with such a long hood and no frunk. It must, as you point out, be due to being used for ICE and hybrid versions also. Personally, I would prefer the new Tesla Model 3 performance at half the price... Good presentation 🙂

@alexmanojlovic768

Ай бұрын

Then you can afford to upgrade Tesla suspension to be even more competitive with BMW M's

Armin, Guten Tag ... He knows the German BMW history. Well done!

Armin pronounced the german Guten Tag at native speaker level and also Armin is a german latin name for the leader of the german free tribes that defeated the roman empire 9ad in a big battle close to Kalkriese . Sounds like he might have german roots even though Armin or Arminius is a quite unusual name in germany nowadays. So good evening to Armin and the Munroe team.

@Matzes

Ай бұрын

Pretty sure the dude is actually german

@Peethiplatsch

Ай бұрын

He said in the video he is a German.

Too expensive. Battery way too small for a "premium" car.

@JM-wd3dk

Ай бұрын

Its not for brokies.

Still not a fan of those fake sounds.

@catch_me_if_you_can1147

Ай бұрын

Then don’t use it 🤷

@drive-channel1834

Ай бұрын

That's a huge fakery. Is there a delete option for that?

@BinaryBlueBull

Ай бұрын

Maybe not this fake sound indeed, I don't like it either, same for other EV's. However if you're a car enthousiast, do check out the Hyundai Ioniq 5 N. It has a mode which emulates an ICE car, not only the sound but the precise feeling of gear shifts including the jolt through the powertrain when it shifts, the rev limiter at redline, the building of boost and power higher up in the rev range, the pops & bangs, realistic engine sound, the whole shebang. At first I thought it was just a gimmick but every serious car reviewer out there (including Doug Demure, AutotopNL, Throttle house and others) have been raving about it non-stop. Doug even made a separate video about just the ICE car mode off that car. And after having driven one a few days ago I can tell you, it's beyond incredible. Not only does it drive absolutely fantastic but they have succeeded in emulating an ICE car to such a degree that you can hardly tell the difference, honestly. And in that case, the fake sound is really, really cool and adds to the experience to a tremendous degree. It is the first truly fun EV on the market and I strongly suspect other manufacturers will start to emulate it in the coming time. It's a benchmark for what a fun EV can be. I would drive around in that mode permanently even though, because they emulate an ICE car, you lost some performance compared to the normal EV mode, because EV's have instant full torque and you can't do that if you want to emulate ICE. It's the first car that really has me considering an EV for my next purchase. Check it out, it's very cool

@JT_771

Ай бұрын

@@BinaryBlueBull Hyundai did do it better. Still sounds too fake on the upper end. Lower end isn't bad.

@BinaryBlueBull

Ай бұрын

@@JT_771 Yup, agreed. You can still hear it. But trust me when I say that you won't care one bit when you drive it. Even though you can still hear it's fake, the sound still does add significantly to the experience and the car in itself is truly fun to drive. Apart from that, if Hyundai is able to approach "sounds like the real thing" somewhat already with this car, you can be sure it will at some point be indistinguishable. The Ioniq 5 N was one of the most fun cars I've ever driven, and I've driven quite a few sports cars and "drivers cars". My expectations were already quite high because of the many positive reviews I had seen but still it surpassed them

Man that hood is gigantic to not have any frunk Lol it must have so much space in there

@raleedy

Ай бұрын

You’ll never know unless you can find a way to get it open.

@JoshuaGrech

Ай бұрын

I feel people are missing the point on the ‘frunk’. BMW is building a lineup that is ‘identical’ bar driveline. You want a 5 series? Here is a diesel, a petrol, a performance petrol, an EV or EV performance, you choose. Other than driveline, everything else is pitched at bmw existing owner (likely an existing 5 series owner who currently doesn’t have a frunk).

@raleedy

Ай бұрын

@@JoshuaGrech Except for the extra 440 kg of dead weight and the limited range.

@drive-channel1834

Ай бұрын

It has fake engine in there, tlto create thet fake engine sound

@Illopp00ify

Ай бұрын

Has a speaker for making fake engine noises:)

Congrats… your guten Tag was on Point 👍

900 pounds heavier than the ICE awd version of the same car.

Is that Jordan's taller cousin?

yr workshop frontage needs a coat of paint Sandy

Makes up for it in power? The S has 1000hp and another 100 miles of range for 4k more.

@drive-channel1834

Ай бұрын

Yeah but Model S does NOT look stupid. I don't want any Tesla. You really miss the point. I own and drive BMW so that people will look and see how stupid my car is, instead of how stupid I am. Why not? I have the money.

In every car video I can't help but obsess over climate settings. 77 for the driver and 67 for the passenger! hahaha

No frunk? No joy.

@drive-channel1834

Ай бұрын

Frankly, you're correct. Hello, I'm Frank, I live in a frunk. frunk-less car makes me homeless.

THANKS!

@MunroLive

Ай бұрын

You're welcome!

14:13 exactly. first few minutes into the video this feels like a standard M5 car and nothing makes it memorable. but then, that could be exactly BMW's aim here. The curves of A-pillar reminds me so much of decade(s) old cars.

1:05 More advanced than an i7 or iX?

solid video

@MunroLive

Ай бұрын

Thanks

Guter Mann 👍

My driving instructor told me: you recognize the bad guys in the movies easily...because they drive german luxury cars. 😅

@raleedy

Ай бұрын

In a lot of UK and Euro movies, the cops drive Audis and BMWs.

@drive-channel1834

Ай бұрын

Very appropriate, they're the bad guys

@drive-channel1834

Ай бұрын

😁

@drive-channel1834

Ай бұрын

Just kidding

Why ist BMW not able to put the chargeport on the driver side?

@catch_me_if_you_can1147

Ай бұрын

What would be the advantage? Don’t see there any

@Matzes

Ай бұрын

​@@catch_me_if_you_can1147you don't have to walk around the car to plug in your charger and it would be compatible with the most common and reliable charging network, teslas.

@drive-channel1834

Ай бұрын

With such a high price tag they should give it quad-charge-port; one on every corner. And capability of charging from two ports simultaneously, super fast charging. 350kW x 2? 800V system? - - - - - - - - - - IMO it'll be a very good spec for an EV: 0-60mph in 5 seconds, 10-100% charging in 5 minutes, range 500 miles.

@DimitarStanev

Ай бұрын

Since this car also has ICE versions, almost all BMWs have had the fuel cap on the RH side for safer refilling if stopped on the road (in LHD countries)

@catch_me_if_you_can1147

Ай бұрын

@@DimitarStanev and with charging at the road it makes even more sense.

Okay so what will be a better car: starting with the battery and designing a car around it or starting with an ICE design and putting a battery in it. They are not even trying to compete.

@turrafirmaguitarchannel

Ай бұрын

Well, they have built their ice car factories at huge expense. They have to repurpose them as best they can to recoup costs. Considering how expensive the factories are, the planning for EV future was required decades ago.

@davidglieder8862

Ай бұрын

They started with both and built a car around it. They seem to succeed quite well with that strategy for now.

@drive-channel1834

Ай бұрын

Build a battery-pack with integrated floor and seats. That's all there is to it, basically. Everything else is just "accessories" , formality, so that you can call it a car.

Thank you very much for the video! How can you (still) use so many reflective surfaces in the interior area near the driver these days? Have they ever driven the car on a sunny day? Furthermore, I cannot follow the impression that e.g., the interior of the doors look good - for me they look like a weird, colorful puzzle, made of many different parts and without a clear design guideline. Too ugly and over-designed in my mind.

It looks like a Chevy Impala low rider from the side.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder: I am not the one holding the bee. They done a good job on the inside.

Very good review as usual Thanks so much Munro Live for sharing this The car itself looks good inside and outside, except for that goofy cheesy "grill"

It is not an ev platform it is basicly a gasoline car with en ev attached. It is a little bit like if you attach a motor to a horse carriage. This is also far away from global optimum, because the driver sits too high that he could look over the horses which he does not need with a motor. Therefore the car must be always designed around the engine and not just the engine attached to a car. Tesla also did this in its first iteration in 2006 with the first roadster. Therefore BMW is now at its first design iteration and almost 20years behind Tesla. 😂

Looks like the new accord.

@drive-channel1834

Ай бұрын

More like a new Yaris

At autobahn speed, that thing only lasting 25 minutes before recharge lol

1:43 Sure would've been nice to insert Cadillac's first use of "#TheKink"

Love the Vid🔥🔥

*Bavarian perspective. They have always been _special_ among whole DACH region

Firstly, I would hate all the finger prints all over the shiny plastic surface. Secondly, if it doesn’t have a large infotainment screen, I don’t see the value in owning the car (for maps, split screen comfortably, etc). Oh and thirdly, the fake sounds are… so obsolete. Why would you want to add sounds instead of having a quiet experience, or have the music play without the noises?

@drive-channel1834

Ай бұрын

Yes fake or not, ICE sound is obsolete, stupid, disturbing Fake ICE sound is really doubling up the stupidity

@DimitarStanev

Ай бұрын

how big of a map do you really need, especially when you have a heads up display? Are you watching netflix or driving?

@marekjustus

Ай бұрын

@@DimitarStanev I prefer large map, and the heads up screen is tiny (personal preference). If I also wait in the car, or am at the charger, yes I want to watch movies or play games and not have to do it on my phone. Cars are no longer tools to only transport you around, they can have (and should have) way more capabilities but the legacy auto seems to be stuck in the old mindset.

Another Infomercial for BMW?

@alamandrax

Ай бұрын

They did declare that intent on this channel a couple of years ago. They have to get revenue in somehow.

You did a U-turn around the right side of that other car and then made a comment about HIM?!??

@abraxastulammo9940

Ай бұрын

A BMW has a builtin right of way (but maybe his blinker fluid was running low, too)! 😊

@jamesengland7461

Ай бұрын

I am confused about that. Why was that other car not moving? Why did he drive around it?

@jamesengland7461

Ай бұрын

As he completed the u turn, I couldn't see that other car, so I'm not sure.

@aussie2uGA

Ай бұрын

Might be a Michigan technique? Like the "California roll..."?

@drive-channel1834

Ай бұрын

That's to demonstrate the BMW-ness of a regular BMW driver 😁

You'd think this comments section had never been in a car before with how much they're surprised by the existence of a piano black plastic interior. That's like 80% of all car interiors these days.

@drive-channel1834

Ай бұрын

The "engineers" (stylists) are wannabe pianists Their childhood dream, our nightmare.

Yoooooo wtf is up with the gas pedal 🤣🤣🤣 that shit looked ridiculously out of control

@jonathanslaughter8542

Ай бұрын

There’s no hiding his facial expressions

Love the music in the video

@MunroLive

Ай бұрын

Thanks

Huge, long hood, with I suspect not much underneath.

@drive-channel1834

Ай бұрын

Yeah, empty, that's really representative of ...

Every Chinese car maker can make a 5250-pounds electric car and they are pretty close, if not on par, in respect to design and materials. But their cars cost much less. I don't see anything worth copying - it's not really fast (for an electric car), it heavy, expensive to produce, average range, technologically on the same level as current ICE vehicles. I know a lot of people will buy it because it's a BMW and looks good, but most people are actually pragmatic. That's why Japanese cars won in the US in the 80s and 90s.

9:40 - When BMW inevitably fails, the fake ICE noises in their EV will go down as one of the primary design consideration causes. Is there anything more ridiculous?

@raleedy

Ай бұрын

The shiny black plastic all over competes for that prize.

Call me inflexible but at this point in time if an EV does not have a frunk it's an automatic fail on the design.

An uninspired design executed with very nice materials. It still doesn't work for me....

I’ll take the model S long range

That’s a steal compared to the 2023 M5 starting price of around 110K.

Kia i5

Just buy a Tesla - awesome supercharger network, great lane keep assist and autopilot, very logical and easy to use software, smart phone as your digital key, great service network and no price gouging car dealers

@chrissykes2720

Ай бұрын

They price gouged when they could...wasn't Plaid $130k 2 years ago and now it's $90k? Competition is a beautiful thing!

@cengeb

Ай бұрын

Service stinks by Tesla, no parts, few and far between.

@waynerussell6401

Ай бұрын

@@cengeb Lowest cost to own of any brand and best customer satisfaction says-other-wise (Consumer Reports, JDPower).

@cengeb

Ай бұрын

@waynerussell6401 wrong,on so many points. cu magazine doesn't recomend any tesla they are poor build,poor reliability, and loose the most value in 3 years. Tesla depreciate more than any car on the road. You think you are saving money,you are blind d. They also eat tires faster than a real car.

@cengeb

Ай бұрын

Tesla is being sued on that false advertising autopilot fraud. There is no such thingcas a self driving car. Wake up

First!

When you can get a Tesla Model S Plaid for roughly the same price with much better performance, range, efficiency and software. This new BMW i5 does not really make sense for others then BMW loyalists.

@alexmanojlovic768

Ай бұрын

And wait for those BMW parts prices to dwarf the Tesla ones...

Carbon fiber interior is rediculous and ugly,put some leather in if you want to be lux.

Unlike Tesla it's easy to see high quality from a manufacturer who knows how to design and produce high quality vehicles.

This presented isn't one of your best. A choppy presentation. Perhaps it was because of a language issue.

I have a friend who owns a i5 M60. To me it doesn’t make sense. I prefer my Tesla Model S. The interior is a complete cluster f@$#. Nothing makes any sense. Design is very loud and ugly. People who buy it want to make a statement; the question is, what is that statement? PS and they were wrong in WWII

@jonathanslaughter8542

Ай бұрын

The statement is “I didn’t buy a Tesla because of my moral superiority” lol. Respectfully to your friend 😂

BMW is over engineered in the worst way. Get a Lexus.

@AndreLeRoux81

Ай бұрын

Be smart, avoid BMW and Lexus.

Another lazy effort by BMW. You can tell all BMW’s choices these days are made with shareholders in mind not customers. They are resting on the laurels of their past reputation and relying entirely on people’s fixation with being seen to own a “premium” brand. This will be a good vehicle for wealthy New Yorkers to sit in traffic with where they can enjoy the quiet interior and have the fine suspension soak up the bumps of their Afghanistan-quality roads. Since they’ll be traveling short distances at a snails pace they won’t notice the car’s many shortcomings. I imagine this is actually the target market BMW has in mind for this vehicle.

@Cloxxki

Ай бұрын

Same as Mercedes. They could do so much better if they could find it in their hearts. Lucid and several new Chinese brands showing them how it's done.

@michaeltrinidad1217

Ай бұрын

BMW and Mercedes are considered short-term ownership vehicles. In the long run, they are endless money pits.

@ethanwelner1230

Ай бұрын

You described the entire luxury car market since midwesterners can't buy luxury cars after spending all their money on meth. I'm not sure what BMW is doing wrong here. Seems like they know their customer.

@gryphon1six801

Ай бұрын

@@ethanwelner1230 yeah sadly you’re right.

Put side by side with a Tesla and its more than obvious which is the quality car. Fit and finish in the BMW is far better than in any Tesla. Sure the Tesla fan club will disagree, most are blind to quality or design after all they believe the Cybertruck is the future!!!

Why are these OEM’s so fucking stupid they putting the charge port in the wrong position nobody’s going to charge anywhere but Tesla charges I have a Rivian and a Tesla and charging anywhere but Tesla sucks.

Me and my german mates made our decission: the design is ugliest.

hi May I know your collab email？