The real question is what car will Dave keep more than a year? Great video.

@scottbreseke716

11 ай бұрын

During this next year, Dave will change cars at least 5 times.

@Harrythehun

11 ай бұрын

Non of the above…

@davidbaker9943

11 ай бұрын

😂

@ulfw

11 ай бұрын

None. Total waste of time and money.

@ronald4life1

8 ай бұрын

lol he swapped this out 3 months later for a Model S Plaid.. I can't even imagine how much depreciation he has paid on these swaps.

The Model S Plaid just checks all the boxes for me. It looks so sleek and aggressive with those wheels.

@Tiernan422

11 ай бұрын

You can’t beat how the S looks. They say they prefer the 3 but it just looks so ugly to me if I had to pick I’d choose the S lol

@kcw9313

11 ай бұрын

Even if the 3 was free, I'd pass. MSP looks amazing, better looking than the Taycan GTS, and the power on tap is unrelenting.

@unknownember7889

5 ай бұрын

@@Tiernan422Comparing a Model 3 to other EV’s, I’d say it’s one of the better looking EV’s compared to Toyota, Honda, Ford, etc.

After watching this channel for a while, I'm convinced that what Dave really enjoys is researching, hunting, and dealing more than the vehicle itself, which is FINE! It's common in any hobby. Enjoying the Out of Spec content, and appreciate that you guys cover the EV world from multiple perspectives.

@nevco8774

11 ай бұрын

Poor man - Dave is fascinated by cars but cannot get them, like Kyle, for reviews for weeks in a row. In conclusion he has to buy them, keep 3-4 months and simply flip them later for others, in search for new experiences. That might be what is attracting viewers to this channel after all.

Dave, love hearing you rationalize needing a different expensive car months after acquiring two other expensive cars. It's like listening to my own brain. lol I wish I could pull the trigger as often as you do!

@wetelectronics7867

11 ай бұрын

The void that can never be filled.

The boring truth is the 3 LFP does all you need

Love the back and forth of father and son, this is what is missing in America, love your videos. This is feel good all the way. All smiles.

Wowza, Dave. I'm definitely not in your league, as I can't imagine ever trying to choose among these top-of-the-line EVs. Well… happy for you!

Keep the lucid. I think the viewers would very much like to see how the car does once the charger surge is fixed and how it lasts and improves over time. Everyone knows what the Taycan can do and there is a lot on the road. The lucid is still special at this point.

So, between the 3 cars you drove and talked about, the model 3 is the best car, which is not in the video and is more than half the price of the 3 cars. Happy I have a model 3 in my driveway. Great video.

I did love the father- son evaluation and respect whatever decision you choose!

I would keep the Lucid and charge at the hotel I stay at! But my traveling preference is different from yours!

Well done Dave & Kyle! Many thanks for the video.👍

Hearing you and Kyle and Coletin just talk about cars is what makes this a great video. You all should start a weekly podcast!

I believe when the national charging network becomes reliable, Tesla will start giving up substantial market share!

You guys are a lot of fun, really entertaining. Thanks.

I think if Dave drove a dual motor Taycan, he would like the acceleration. Due to number of options he wants, a previously owned Taycan is better financially. But it’s adaptive cruise control and interior space may not satisfy him.

Today I was pretty sure I was just going for a new LR Model S. Now I'm just back to being confused and undecided again after watching this. 😂

Plaid is fastest for a few seconds only, it gets of the line faster in track mode for 3 secs in a straight line, that doesn’t mean it will get you to your destination faster because it got off the line quicker. The 3 seconds gain off the line are irrelevant in day to day usage. The Taycan needs 2 secs to really get going and can hold higher top speeds for longer, no track mode needed

This is great content - the debate Kyle is having with his Dad in the Taycan is just priceless 🤣. MORE OF THIS!

Great Video, I always enjoy Dave’s banter, super entertaining! I am a model X owner, can agree w/ the the squeaks and rattles that I have a service appointment for, but love the interior design and it also just feels like “home” for me. Also w/ Lucid, that big vertical screen is so low, out of line of sight, seems so distracting to touch anything on it. But haven’t driven it myself though.

Just watched this again. Excellent discussion of the state of the EVs I would consider. They all have issues that make them not quite what I would hope, and you guys talked about the issues I have with each. At the moment, Lucid is ahead, but the software, charging, and corporate longevity issues are significant. The noise level and poor ride quality of the new Tesla products rule them out for me, even though I love the software and charging ease. Thanks again!

Thank you for this video. This is raw and honest review. I enjoyed the chemistry between dad and son. You guys did great. I am trying now to decide on the Model 3 performance and the Lucid Air. Do you think the model 3 per. will be a great choice? However, i am coming from the camero and i do want to compromise the performances level or feel from my camero either.

I've driven the Model S and the Lucid GT, Lucid Touring, there is no way I would get a Model S over either. Now I need to test the Taycan.

Dave should drive the new version of the Plaid. Bought one 6 weeks ago- much better build quality than the early VIN version. Had an August 2021 Plaid and new one is has no real rattle issues like the early one as well as all the features/ upgrades made. New glass roof, higher thermal capacity calipers, round wheel, tilting center screen, refreshed tail section etc. Besides being almost 30k less. Had a M3P in between the 2 Plaids and much prefer the newer S. Feels like a different class of car.

The Lucid is goooone, looking forward to next vehicle.

I went through this dilemma few months ago when my Air Touring was about to be built. Even with the old pricing, the Model S Plaid got similar range and was much faster. Long story short, I picked up a Plaid and love the thing. It does everything right and is a great value. If I could afford another 70-80k, I would be in a Taycan GTS Cross Turismo, but that's just not in the cards yet

Watching the Model S segment makes me more content with my 2022 Model Y LR. My Y has absolutely no squeaks and rattles. I like the higher seating position. The ride is quite stiff in stock form but I have a Luxury Coilover Suspension kit from Unplugged Performance on order. And it has stalks.

Dave, great video! I have a data point for you. Tesla doesn't like buttons! I have a very nice Acura MDX. Yesterday I counted the buttons. I was shocked. I expected 50. The actual count was 85! This didn't count any controls on the two screens! No wonder my bride can only remember less than 20! Three different nav systems are loaded on the system. also CarPlay as well as Acura's system. For two elderly drivers, this is beyond overwhelming. I'm an old school engineer, trained by experience that less is better, but also deeply into tech. Worse, if I want any upgrade in S/W Acura wants me to buy a new car! These decisions by Honda have to have been made in 1990 by someone a lot older than me! The Acura is a really nice car, but the sunset for Honda is a lot closer than they know!

Could do with O.o.S Mom💃🏼 & Bailey 🐶 back now. Hopefully they will be back soon! Go get them Dave😅

@ALRinaldi

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, need an update on her Y!

Think you should keep the lucid coz it has the drive, speed, comfort, and the software just keep improving - maybe it'll have a dog mode soon once it catches up on all other priorities. Yes infrastructure is still gonna be an issue, but if the new charger network pans out by 7 auto makers, you might just have a fix for that in a year. Besides you'd have to drive 5 hours straight at 80mph to use up 400 mile range. I'd personally rather just charge my car at destinations than having to stop all the time just to juice up. Last but not least you'll be able to make contents with it when model 3 is kind ubiquitous.

49:25 “I might’ve said that”. The moment makes me laugh.

I agree with Kyle lucid is a1 and if you can fix ac problems with a software update they can probably fix anything on car through software man that's just like Tesla.

Coda looks amazing can't wait for video

Loved it when Dad said Kyle knew how to push all the buttons at age three. Great dig, I immediately knew the buttons he was referring too. That said I cant see you being happy with anything other than a Tesla, they do most things right. If you can live with your model 3 for a while longer you will get to see a test of the new version, and decide if its one you can live with. Maybe the model Y is really your car. Get Kyle to put in a softer suspension for a comfy ride, you'd have more room, and could still have Bailey mode too.

I see what your plan is here lol. Im doing the same thing. End of quarter on a Model X Plaid, I think im in

Just started the video, but by the title...I think you are a Model S guy, just for the charging network.

The Lucid is being sold soon is my guess. Public charging network letting everyone down (except tesla)

I would only get the Y or X, because it's much easier to get into than the 3. I don't like to have to bend on one knee and also pivot to get into the car, because I've injured my knee doing that before.

Why did I chuckle when I heard that one of the main advantages of buying a Tesla according to Dave is the purchase process?

Great video. Love your point of view

I really want to have Dave drive a Taycan 4S. Though I agree, the Turbo is faster of course the 4S is plenty of speed and I don’t think he would be so disappointed. I have 62,000 miles on miy 2020 and I feel it is quite quick, plenty quick. 😎 Also, if you're looking for a Porsche, you really can't be overly concerned about price in my opinion. You do have to pay for build quality and the brand. 😊

Glad to I have Lucid as my first EV. Comfort and driving dynamics are more priority to me. Software is adequate can keep improving to maturity with more bells and whistles, but hardware is permanent. As for road tripping, I only had one instance in EA station panicking out of 7 road trip.

Dave, I think you should consider a 2023 Model X, maybe with Enhanced Autopilot. I have had mine for five weeks and I love it. It is super easy to enter and exit, the air suspension is smooth as silk, I love the HUGE front window (and the visor gets out of the way), I got three years of free supercharging, and three months of free FSD. The lane changing works perfectly and changes Interstates like magic. I also love the power doors (front and back), the fantastic sound system (22 speakers), the noise deadening feature, and the auto direction select when you step on the brake. The acceleration is amazing, and there are no rattles, clanks or squeaks. The price was the lowest I have ever seen for an X, and Tesla gave me what I wanted on my Model Y trade in. The X looks so much like the S, but all the extra height and room is real nice. Plus your dog would love to watch Netflix on the extra screen in the back seat with dog mode keeping her comfortable! If you haven't driven an X lately, I hope you will.

@jaa2772

11 ай бұрын

Think he had the X already

@gregorysims3697

11 ай бұрын

@@jaa2772 Yeah, but a long time ago. I'de like him to try the 2023.

@808mode

11 ай бұрын

Exactly. Funny I agree the Model S visor is in the way and feels so small inside vs exterior and no auto doors. But now I’m really impressed how much the Model 3 came up because we first got the Model 3 Performance. Sportiness and visibility is on point while our older 2018 ride on 20” wheels is harsh and noisy. But now I love our 23 Model X Plaid for all your same reasons. We just finished two road-trips and I still want to drive it for no reason. I don’t mind the turn signals at all and love the yoke because you can rest both hands on it unlike a round wheel. Comfy, roomy, techie, and just endless power. It’s no cushy Mercedes but I can add mood lighting and a front camera, custom wheels, and every aftermarket accessory with the extra money. BTW Great long form informative video 😉🤙🏼

My dad used to remember to put on his seatbelt right before going around a sharp curve with low suggested speed. He'd shout out "SEATBELTS" and hold the wheel with his knees while he put his on just before the apex.

I like your videos, they are fresh and informative, greetings from Germany :)

EQE should be on your list of possibles.

Honesly I don't think it matters which car you end up choosing....you'll end up selling it within 6 months anyway.....

I say to keep the channel interesting wait for a Highland performance and compare it to your current Model 3 RWD.

It'll be a shame if Tesla gives up on the Model S. Thanks for the video, you guys helped me decide on new Model 3 over Model S. And imagine, you guys like the pre-refresh Model 3 over the refreshed Model S. Imagine when the updated Model 3 is available...

Can't compare Kyle's model s with the other two, it had an accident, probably broken clips in the back, different wheels and tires. drove my m3p and model s 2023 back to back and its night and day. model 3 feels dangerous at higher speeds, model s just planted and much better, much quieter no rattles, much faster at higher speeds, also 0-60. much better seats etc. its worth the higher price vs m3p in my opinion.

Train was a cool catch, can't believe there isn't at least lights at the crossing....but I guess it's not the New Canaan branch lol

You have overlooked the fact in your video that the Lucid is the only vehicle that can fit 4 adults above 6 feet tall comfortably inside the vehicle, and it also has the most cargo space!

Kyle, get your Plaid sorted. I have a Plaid that I bought new in Sep. of ‘21 and the only rattle I’ve had is the notorious rear seat latch. That was quickly fixed with electrical tape around the latch. Other than that, it’s been easily the quietest of the four Tesla’s I’ve owned. I think you’re doing a disservice to the Model S by making it appear that issues with your specific car are indicative of the entire production run. Setting that aside, you would enjoy the car much more if it was corrected.

Nice video Dave 👏🏻 Over here we call a sedan a ‘saloon’.

i love tesla model S as my next car but not having parking assist with ultra sonic sensor, i am keeping 2019 model 3 with USS. Hard to find next EV upgrade. love the look of taycan but paying more for less just brand.....Lucid oldsmobile EV look..lol.

I really enjoy all of the out of spec video content, I did watch the whole thing ( I need to get a life ) and my take on the video is that now that Dave is into the U tube world he will never keep a vehicle long enough run out of warranty and barely long enough to have to recharge. The CCS charging network will be resolved eventually but still a few years away from no worries. If the charging network were perfect there would be no reason to get rid of the Lucid but I think you would be looking for the next exciting thing anyway so no vehicle is safe for long term with Dave. Looking forward to your trip back home video in the Lucid, look at it as a challenge and your up to the task, have fun and be safe.

Dave, I’d love to see what you thinks about an F-150 Lightning Platinum. I think you might just hold onto the Lucid until the first CCS car available with the NACS adapter is available. I’d love to see you in a truck. 😂

1:27:30 Railroad crossing = Platteville PD parking only

I currently drive a 2017 Model S 100D. Since the 8 year warranty is about to expire and I have 185k KM (115k miles) I went on a testdrive with 3 models: Tesla S plaid, BMW i5-m60 and the Taycan 4S/turbo. I finally decided for the Taycan. The i5-m60 was the worst in about anything: range, charging speed, ugly/unreadable dashboard, worst road handling. In the EU the high speed charging network outside Tesla superchargers is finally good enough to roadtrip without hassle.

I agree with Tesla made model 3 too good. Post 2021 Model 3 is the best car for the money period. It's ride, comfort, suspension, NVH, size, and geometry. I actually think it's better than model Y in geometry because it was the original design.

I had a Plaid and the biggest thing people don't talk about is how badly dampened the suspension is. Might give Vinfast a run for its money!

If I were you Dave, I would get a used Model 3 perf or LR with USS with Ryzen chip. I think it will hold its value well.

@YTYTYTY7

11 ай бұрын

Just get 18 inch wheels if you want it quieter and soft ride. And if you lower it like 33-35psi, it's like best riding Tesla.

Which of these 3 evs does Dave want? None of them. A model 3 P

There’s a 4s on Autotrader for $88,720 white 19 miles and another for $69,995

Keep the lucid. It’s a one of a kind.

You guys are so much fun to watch and listen too.

The Tesla Model S with all the rattles!

19" wheels look and perform better.

Yo Dave! Did we place an order for a Lucid Sapphire? I mean if we’re going apples to apples with a tricked model s plaid it’s only fair if we get the Sapphire.

Wait for the new ID.7 😉

Model S Dave!!

I want Kyle from the BoostedBoiz's Model S Plaid go kart as a toy lol

So from the results of this video, we prefer the Model 3 with acceleration boost. 😆

I'd just go for the taycan TBH

You should compare to Mercedes EQS instead Taycan because Porsche it's more to exotc car than a luxury sedan

It would be nice if they could get rid of the rule that cars need to have sun visors. There should be the option to have a tint that can be turned off and on. That tech is sorta expensive now but if more cars start having the option it could bring the cost down.

You change cars faster than I change pants...

plaid

You’re living my dream!

Since the Apple doesn't fall far from the tree,kyle changes cars all the time, just like you. But as he says in almost everyone of his videos, the one car he always comes back to is his Rivian. And with Rivian also committing to switch to NACS, just order yourself the R1S. And now with the newly available dual motor With a few less HPs, It sounds like it may be the perfect car for you considering all the arguments you brought up in this video. Hope to catch up with you next time you're in Marco

"May Keep it" = Trading for a Porsche Taycan! :)

Love the Lucid but lack of a charging network is a killer

I feel like I live in crazy town. I've been on three road trips with a CCS EV of 1,500 to 1,800 miles to Florida, Outer Banks, and Boston, and it's been . . . fine. Once I had to wait because it was busy, maybe twice something was slow. The other 30 or more charging stops were just fine. Maybe we charged at 80 instead of 200 a few times, but I don't care if I'm charging for 30 minutes instead of 15. I'm not rolling in at 3 percent, I don't care to maximize the charging game. I've never been stranded. For 1 or 2 road trips a year, CCS is . . . adequate, and maybe it costs me an extra 30 minutes per day of charging time. I'm not making KZread videos, and I don't care.

LUCID is the best EV

So, I just finished the driving portion. Id like to add: Your S and likely Kyle's S are "Production Ramp" cars. Elon has always said that cars made during the Production Ramp would be lower quality and have more issues. Hes always suggested to wait until the production is at normal capacity. Kyle has always had issues with his S, so I wouldn't let that drive sway your decision. Lucid has made it clear they will NOT partner with Tesla on charging, and that makes it useless to me.. I tried to road trip my Rivian and id much rather have a Tesla... but the only reason im keeping my rivian is because they ARE partnering with Tesla. Id go test drive a brand new Model S, and see what it is like now that production is where it needs to be.

Whether a car rattles or not is more important than acceleration? Also, Elon is a tall guy and finds the Model S to fit him fine. Not a typical case, because Dave is 6 foot 5 inches tall.

Asked SIRI for the definition of FICKLE and it showed your photo!

PLEASE REVIEW THE LUCID✨️ SAPPHIRE WHEN IT RELEASES THIS YEAR THANK YOU! TOGETHER AS ONE LUCID✨️ FAMILY 🙋‍♂️❤️🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉🎉🕺🕺🕺👏👏😁😉👍

Hearing Kyle in the background lol

Get the Porsche Dave

Yes the ccs network I would run aways from it if Yu can I been telling reps if they don't get it right ppl are gonna start switching to TELSA just FOR THE CHARGING NETWORK

I'm halfway through the video and am already certain Dave is buying a Porsche.

@ronb4633

11 ай бұрын

One may think, then it all goes wiggy because he’s driving a rear wheel drive Taycan. A 4S may have swayed him. But he’s too price conscious for a Porsche.

Cadillac Lyriq all day

The styling and appearence of the Telsa to me is superior to both the Lucid and Porche. Plus the UI is far better. The navigation and huge screen really stand out compared to the others. Plus the Tesla can be used for entertainment as well. I think you need to get the hyland model 3 performance so we can get some great videos on that one.

Why don’t you bring the Tesla Model S Plaid to a professional audio shop and give it a stage 3 demping? Makes the car a little heavier but it fixes so many unwanted noises. I have it on a Audi A5 convertible from 2012 and it fixes a lot of noises because it has not a stiff chassis.

@Floridos

11 ай бұрын

Spoke to a Audi RS e-tron GT owner a few months ago and he is so much happier with sound demping. It is also a big plus for the standard sound system.

Tesla, Tesla, nothing compares to you.

This isn’t a fair comparison, you don’t have the lucid air sapphire which is currently the fastest production sedan on earth

@mr.boombah6511

6 ай бұрын

….. lol sapphire at 250K sorry that’s ridiculous in the current EV market. The Lucid GT performance is the sweet spot 90 K used and the Tesla plaid at 70K used both great choices

Also have you considered an Audi etron GT? Gives you taycan 4s performance at a RWD price plus they are offering some good incentives this month. Might be worth checking out

CCS DC CHARGING ISSUES will make ppl switch from a CCS car to a NACS car , if they don't fix it this will happen

can i get them all 😂