Correction for the note at 11:19: Though you do plug the external card in via USB-C, Jake DID mean to say UVC! UVC (or USB Video Class) means that you can plug in the capture cards and Windows will support it without any separate drivers.

@solomoncyj

11 ай бұрын

alright

@eliteschw31n64

11 ай бұрын

Could also work with linux, needs to be tested by someone

@eliteschw31n64

11 ай бұрын

Anyways, its great to see that the manufacturers are switching from their own solution to uvc, allows easier control for 3rd party software and doesnt require extra drivers/software :) i will order the pcie as soon as its aviable in germany (i literally waited for a ucv one)

@wateryevents960

11 ай бұрын

​@@solomoncyj 😂 did ..,...

@typerightseesight

11 ай бұрын

high dynamic range on pc.

Remember, no preorders

@LukusMaxamus

11 ай бұрын

@@hotaru25189 learnt that the hard way preordering no mans sky a while back. Not doing that again lol

@zackzeed

11 ай бұрын

Words to live by.

@dthanos4903

11 ай бұрын

Am the only one who thinks that this is a modern warfare reference??

@SleepyFen

11 ай бұрын

We do not pre-order 🎩

@joelconolly5574

11 ай бұрын

People pre-order smartphones tho

Finally 120hz capture devices, now we just need to wait the next 5 years for twitch to catch up.

@peace4626

11 ай бұрын

Elgato has had one for a while

@lumi_arcs

11 ай бұрын

Elgato is a shit show of a company

@jumpierwolf

11 ай бұрын

Twitch has had 120fps streaming for years.

@Spazbo4

11 ай бұрын

we've had 120hz capture before, this doesnt even do 120hz capture but 120 passthrough

@KyberGaming47

11 ай бұрын

​@@jumpierwolfonly to like 3 people though lol, twitch is capped at 60fps and has vsync which can be uncapped but 99.99999% of people will never see 120fps vid on twitch, so the tiniest monority of people will see it, plus its a complete waste of upload bitrate and download for the users, its just not worth it in anyway even recording at 120fps is stupid, i play at 1440 165fps which NO capture card can passthrough so far so its quite annoying tbh, but either way unless your filming slow motion videos theres no point to recording high fps, just record at 60fps and play at highest available

The variable refresh rate part is a huge deal for me, because Street Fighter 6 has ridiculous screen-tearing without it while using the input delay reduction mode.

@Akkbar21

11 ай бұрын

Hmm. That game is locked at 60fps in multiplayer. 120fps is useless imo. Also, on a 3080, it’s not at all demanding perf wise.

@Neoxon619

11 ай бұрын

@@Akkbar21 120Hz still reduces input latency.

@Akkbar21

11 ай бұрын

@@Neoxon619 then just use shadow play on PC or I’m sure Xbox and Ps5 have built in capture nowadays. So I don’t see the use case whatsoever.

@OptimusSatanas

11 ай бұрын

@@Akkbar21 You are the most annoying type of youtube commenter.

@Krynis

11 ай бұрын

@@Neoxon619 this.

Jake leaving little strands of Arlo's kitty hair all over that booth. Well done. Our cats follow us everywhere. Hehe

@minekey29348

11 ай бұрын

Are we sure its cat hair?

I’m so excited! But MJPEG is looking very concerning. This is seeming like a downgrade in some ways

@CptPakundo

11 ай бұрын

And then there's full 4:4:4, which is a complete bag of worms already for those who care about that sort of thing.

@EposVox

11 ай бұрын

@@CptPakundo I see no signs of 444 support in this video, and more concerning yet the pcie card seems to report as a 10gbps usb device

@MizoxNG

11 ай бұрын

it's set to NV12, not MJPEG if you look at the settings

Passthru is always the issue with “cheap” option of capture cards, not the recording. This new product is really nice for the passthru possible with it. Might need to upgrade.

Will be good to eventually see DP 2 used for 4K 120 HDR record with 4K 240Hz VRR passthrough.

Avermedia was in one of my first pc's with a crappy tv tuner when those where fashionable:)Loved that thing. Good to see they are still around and kicking.

For a card that does not do on-board encoding, I am struggling to find a use case where it's better than just capturing your desktop straight in OBS or GeForce Experience. Maybe it's great for using a proper camcoder or a photocamera that has HDMI out to replace your USB webcam. With videogames you'll tend to capture them on the same system you're playing them on (unless you shell out on a separate capture rig and work out the logistics of that). In this light, the marketing is a bit confusing here since it's apparently featuring videogames, but the best gains it provides seem outside of that.

@Respectable_Username

11 ай бұрын

It's aimed at console streamers, not PC streamers. For when the image is coming from a different system than the one that's streaming

@B00M.B00M

11 ай бұрын

@@Respectable_Username That actually makes sense. I forgot that's a thing, but now that you point it out, it's starting to look like a very adequate product.

Line in and Line Out on the external capture card also makes 2 PC stream setups with that so much easier in terms of audio routing too!

@rohithkumarsp

10 ай бұрын

I looked up your channel. Pretty sad, looks like youtube algorithm has screwed your channel. Subbed.

@NanoNutrino

9 ай бұрын

Holy moly, how is your channel not bigger. You should rebrand maybe, name the channel after you since your the face of the channel

Awesome that they let you be so thorough in the coverage! I'd love to integrate this into my setup.

PCIe 4.0 is not overkill, it would allow to use of 1x slot rather than 4x

I have their LGP2 which has 4K HDR Passthrough. It captures max 1080p/60 and that’s all I need but I’ve been wanting to upgrade because I hate the triangular shape of it. Works great with a USB Battery Bank to capture portably. It also won’t break up the files if you use exFat on your micro sd.

@4:40 I've made this exact product suggestion, a TSA-comoliamt length LTT screwdriver, several times here in the comments. It doesn't even need to be a "stubby" short size...just long enough so that with its longest but attached, is under the TSA limit.

i really hope they will have a low profile slot bracket because i use a hyte y60. but then its still a 50/50 if it fits because of the riser cable

To the editor, uvc is correct, thats a plug and play standard for video input devices (primary usb webcams)

@eliteschw31n64

11 ай бұрын

That also means, the capture card could work under linux and mac without drivers

@austinnapier8233

11 ай бұрын

@@eliteschw31n64 you beat me to this, UVC support is big. Not sure if it just works on macOS because it still needs a generic driver for all UVC-compatible devices, but it should on Linux which is cool

@eliteschw31n64

11 ай бұрын

@@austinnapier8233 not sure about the macos part, maybe they have uvc driver? Didnt tested that yet and also cant test it, i have a 2012 mac mini for safari testing lol

My goodness, Digital Foundry must be jumping in circles with joy right now! :D

Awesome! Looking forward to this.

Been waiting for this to happen. Finally HDMI 2.1 support in a capture card!

They need to make a capture card using DisplayPort because I'm running the Gigabyte M27QX 1440p 240Hz monitor.. i cant get the full use out of my monitor through these capture cards

Now there's a name I've not heard in years. I used to have one of Aver's TV cards in my PC in the late 90's.

Now that 1440p 240hz monitors are becoming significantly more popular, I can't help but ask where all the passthrough support is for those.

@Zx7o.

11 ай бұрын

Saaaame, I'm running the gigabyte M27QX and cant get the full 1440p/240hz out of any of these capture devices

@doggydude49

11 ай бұрын

Agreed. No mentioning of it here but hopefully it will support it

@andymiller3366

11 ай бұрын

Same thing i was thinking, got one of the samsung G monitors 1440p 240hz and was confused by the 2.1 support but not 1440p 240hz

I wonder what the latency is between the USB and PCIe version is.

I need to know if these passthgough card shows the image with no latency. I have the Odyssey Neo G9 and if I split the screen in 2 I loose HDR in both devices, so I'd be much more interested on using windows fullscreen and use the capture window to play my console games in that specific window.

Seems that my sleep is f*cked tonight. So much cool stuff! And it's awesome that so many of my fave peeps went to the Computex this year. Jake, Alex, Linus, Luke, curious who else, thanks for your coverage guys. Awesome support team you've got going on, pumping the videos left right and center on multiple channels, mad respect.

Wow, I didn't know AverMedia still existed. I remember them from back in the late 90s while in college. In the dorms I remember someone getting a tv/antennna cable input card from them to watch TV on his PC. It was something amazing at the time.

@very_unique_username

11 ай бұрын

This!

hopefully it has sufficient cooling and doesnt start to stutter after running a while at max resolution/refresh rate

it took them a while. Was looking for HDMI 2.1 capture cards last year to record PS5 games but I'm kinda done with those games now so they are too late.

11:18 No editor, he didn't misspeak. UVC plug and play was correct.

When is thje internal version launching and where can i get one ? TY

Very excited for these capture cards!

How do they record VRR? Do the, accept the signal but then stuff it in a constant framerate stream? Which container formats supports saving as VRR?

@MaddJakd

11 ай бұрын

If it's anything like variable framerate camera footage (I know, but in the end the results are similar) everything should support it

It feels like now that there are amazon clones of these for sub 50 dollars trying to eek out more than 1080 on a streaming feed feels like overkill to me. Most of these new titles are releasing on PC anyway.

My grafficscard do 2160p360 hdr recording with mirillis action! , it does not have changeable scenes but it works for me to stream 4k60 HDR to youtube (OBS drops frames for me when I stream 4k, dunno why).

FINAAALLLLYYYYY, I was hoping for display port, but this is great.

Great if you want to capture higher quality for upload, beyond the stream quality, or just do offline gameplays and stuff like that, and want maximum quality for uploading on KZread. Screen capture in general, like tutorials and stuff like that, would look amazing too. Very nice!

@aclzibi1156

11 ай бұрын

Watch the video, this doesn’t record at higher than 60fps, just has 2.1 passthrough

@KittyKatKya

11 ай бұрын

@@aclzibi1156 Assuming it wasn't a gaffe/typo, 7:33 he claims it's doing 1440p120 recording; It just won't do 4k at 144hz (or possibly even 120?)

What will the Linux support be like for both devices?

so their previous gen was LiveGamer Extreme 3 and the newer upcoming model is LiveGamer Ultra 2.1 ? love it.

i'm happy to finally have a capture card at 1440p 120hz in usb form and barely no screen tearing.

4:58 A perfect Linus moment, right there

I guess the advantage of these is that they don't drop/skip as many frames as obs locally via GPU frame buffer?

This is what I've been waiting on finally!!! I've needed a capture card that can simply pass through the 4k120Hz signal to my OLED while I stream. Literally everything in my chain of devices is 4k120Hz compliant except for my current Avermedia 4k60Hz capture card. Now I will be able to truly enjoy my TV without having to disconnect and reconnect my console directly to my receiver.

what's the bit depth on it?

Hello what bitdepth and pixel discretization except NV12 is presented?

Does this capture card work on a mainstream linux distro like Fedora for example?

Would this work for camera 🎥 4k60 capture to OBS for streaming and recording?

Great & informative video.

Please tell them also, we really need 8 HDMI audio channel capture in addition to 10bit capture!!!

Would a 8k decklink card and a Decimator not work or would the delay be too much

It's been almost 3 years, so yeah FINALLY

Can you this stream it for twitch or can we use this to play ps5 games on our pc? My monitor is limited to a low hdmi output so I’m looking to get around that so I can get 120hz on 1440p

How does one even capture a variable refresh rate signal? Can a video file even change framerates from one second to the next?

Wait, can it capture input less than 1080p? Like 480p or even interlaced?

Yoooo these are sick! I wants one

Literally opposite the AverMedia booth, there's YUAN with a 8k@60fps HDMI 2.1 capture card. YUAN SC750N1-L HDMI2.1. Looks cool.

@MaddJakd

11 ай бұрын

Tell me someone is covering that bad boi 🤩

A high res/frame rate capture card that handles variable refresh rate pass through for $300? That's... actually quite impressive.

Two videos in one day? Awesome!

So can this pass-through, a full hdr 4k signal at 144fps or 120fps?

I actually might have a specific need for a 4k 144Hz video capture card. What are these "professional" ones??

Finally the long awaited successor models are out.

Man the Avermedia C027 was game changing for me in 2010. Then I promptly forgot they existed as a company and I'm sorry, their products still look good af.

So this basically allows you to stream any input device at 120fps onto your stream / recording capture software ? OBS clipping of 120fps for KZread videos sounds doable if that’s your gig right? However live streaming 120!? At 4K ? I wonder

Heavily waiting patiently for Linus to start testing multiple capture cards for the M2 Mac Pro, while using raid cards for the set up

is it correct that on the specifications, one of these cards use an Intel i5-6600?

I haven’t watched the whole video yet so maybe this is a thing already but it’d be cool to have an M.2 capture card. Would connect to a PCI bracket most likely, or you could mod it into the back panel of your case.

As someone who has been using Avermedia cards for a long time, I'm totally ready for this. Still wondering if it'll actually let me use two cards at a time though. Having used both their first PCIe and then upgrading to their 2nd PCIe card. Sadly, you can't use both at the same time.

@taxa1569

11 ай бұрын

I'm very confused by this. I have the original live gamer hd, lg4k and live gamer duo and never had a problem with any 2 being used at once. RECentral can't use more than one at once. But the old RECentral can be installed alongside the newer one so technically the live gamer hd can. But so long as the drivers alone are installed to the right card OBS can use all at once if you can install them in the one system. I have the lg4k and lg duo in my cap PC right now

@_B.C_

8 ай бұрын

⁠@@taxa1569I use the live gamer hd, the 4K and an analog 720p avermedia capture card all at the same time in a music visualization program called Magic Music Visuals and in touchdesigner.

Can't wait for a 16k capture card

Funny, EposVox just posted a short about a similar Asus device. I guess it's finally happening, more than 4K30 becoming standard. :D

First hdmi 2.1 capture card finally 🙌 need that portable one i was so close burying chinese one but i want proper pass through with no limitations and 4k 60 with HDR thats insane! this is it the one ive been waiting for.

where is the displayport 1.4 capture card with vrr support. most monitors still use displayport.

Will this capture 5.1 surround or just stereo audio?

if the max recording options that jake said while checking the software are true it means this is limited to 8-bit hdr which is a bit disappointing, hope it means that the input was at 8-bit and not that it can't do 10-bit recording, it'd be a bit sad but overall still a good product tbh

@aclzibi1156

11 ай бұрын

The big improvement in this is just passthrough, it’s not recording at a higher bitrate

I don't understand..... Previous cards could do 4k60 w 10 bit color. Why are we not getting 360hz for 1080p?

Very nice. Is there a reason why they went with HDMI over Displayport? I'm trying to wrap my head around those two standards and why the various parts pick one over the other.

@Dortchskii

11 ай бұрын

I think it has to do with capturing audio, but then the external one has audio pass through, so now I’m just as confused.

@stevenogbuehi3846

11 ай бұрын

I suspect because none of the consoles have display port which this primarily aimed at. And if you were a dual pc streamer,you could still pass through the video to the capture card via the single HDMI output on your video card and push display port video to mirrored monitors as needed.

@EmoEmu

11 ай бұрын

@@stevenogbuehi3846 That has to be it. Thanks!

Question could this be used with reshade to make a super upscaler

This is assuming that your monitor has g-sync, not say freesync used in g-sync compatible mode through display port.

Given the size of current 4090 line up, I don’t there’s space for capture card. And new dp protocol is coming out, those hdmi ports gonna be obsolete when it enters mass production phase

This is not the first with 4k 120 pass through. I was looking at getting one the other day. The only reason I didn’t is cause it cost $700. I’m glad someone is finally making an affordable one. Been seeing a lot of people making vids at this event and saying “the first one ever” when other companies have them. It might be the first major mass production one. But that’s not the same.

@OptimusSatanas

11 ай бұрын

First to market is all that matters. What the name of the other device you refer to??

@aclzibi1156

11 ай бұрын

He said it wasn’t the first, but that most cost around $1k

@dayjobnerds

11 ай бұрын

I have 4k120HDR 4:2:0 pass-through from PS5 into an "Elgato 4k60 Pro MK.2" with latest firmware that enables this (like over a year or 2 ago) out to my Samsung Q90R which also was updated a couple years ago to support most HDMI 2.1 spec on some ports. My PC monitor cannot do 120hz but and has worse HDR performance but that doesn't bother the pass-through and streaming.

I'm not super clued on when it comes to this stuff so I have one question. Why are capture cards still a thing when theres OBS or other screen capture software? Are there advantages to these?

@marcioantonho

11 ай бұрын

it's because you can't run OBS on a game console to do live screen capture, for instance

@MaddJakd

11 ай бұрын

Or if your system isn't the latest nor greatest, the card's hardware takes care of the heavy lifting that goes into recording. You get to play at closer to what res and framerates your machine can handle while getting that at better quality compared to downing settings and resolution to "get by."

@FoleyOver

11 ай бұрын

@@marcioantonho Ahhh that makes sense

YES. I HAVE BEEN WAITING SO LONG

Honestly, I just kind of want the BlackMagic card that's got quad capture. Will work with cameras, console, etc. But it's over $500 lol.

I just wanna have 2k 240 passthrough 4k 60 for Recording is more than enouph. Is this working on Macs?

I’ve been waiting for this

Does it support recording surround sound?

I tunes out when he said "RGB really isn't what's Important here" RGB is all that matters.

Where can I preorder it?

Does it support multichannel PCM audio?

Yes. Very good.

Do radeon and arc cards not have hdmi 2.1 then?

Asus has an external one at Computex as well.

Man the internal one seems like such a weird sidegrade/downgrade. Sounds like it's basically exactly the same device as the USB one but put on a PCIe card together with a USB controller (otherwise it wouldn't be able to do UVC). So unlike it's predecessor it won't be able to do 4K60 HDR or 4:4:4/RGB capture.

@FrowningTaco

11 ай бұрын

Do you know of any capture card that does 4k 60p HDR 4.4.4 chroma?

@boomgarden8826

11 ай бұрын

@@FrowningTaco yes, both Elgato and AverMedia's current gen internal cards support 4:4:4 with the latest firmware.

@FrowningTaco

11 ай бұрын

@@boomgarden8826 So they're yet to release a true HDMI 2.1 successor to their current gen capture cards if what OP is saying is accurate?

@boomgarden8826

11 ай бұрын

@@FrowningTaco I think we need to wait and see. They actually took down their press release. My guess is that the *passthrough* will be true HDMI 2.1, but for the exact capture capabilities as far as colour space, we'll have to wait and see.

@boomgarden8826

11 ай бұрын

Also I should mention, UVC support is a seriously good thing, and makes this card a must have for me. It should mean compatibility with Linux and third party devices, which is a big deal and a game changer!

Sadly their old usb capture card dont receive any kind of updates for newer OS's

Happy to see these arriving now. I assume it also supports 1440p 240 Hz then as the Elgato 4K60 Pro Mk.2 can do 1440p 120Hz now, so I can use my monitor at its full potential.

@tango91

11 ай бұрын

Unfortunately it looks like Jake said 1440p 144Hz which is hopefully an error or preproduction issue since that's the same as the 4k

@brusik66

11 ай бұрын

It's not an error, this is an HDMI 2.0 capture card with HDMI 2.1 passthrough. It will record at max 1440p 144Hz, same as existing Avermedia HDMI 2.0 capture cards.

@Alexandra-Rex

11 ай бұрын

@@brusik66 That's at least better than today's cards. I am realky not after recording in more than 60 FPS anyway.

Wake me when someone comes out with a DisplayPort capture card.

I'd prefer a Gen5 x1 connection, because that is what most new motherboards have left in excess.

@MaddJakd

11 ай бұрын

Or 4x2 even. Seems this is cutting corners for the sake of price points I guess. Outside HEDT, feel this thing is half baked as to what ot can capture.

this is such a good computex so far

Gen3x4 isn't enough for 48gb/s input is it?

Wow I saw me walk through in the background of video😂

what is that clock on the pc behind you?