it's good to hear these things from a ytber to maintain a balanced view of a product, so thanks for sharing! I passed on this board but tbf, a lot of fomo doesn't hit me in this hobby anymore bc my preferences and what I enjoy are really just not profitable to produce for these companies. but the feeling is very real, and something I experienced when I entered the hobby for sure; it's easy for someone to get sucked into, but more videos like this one can work to help keep expectations firmly grounded in reality and that is super valuable

The FOMO discussion was very interesting - made me step back and reassess my own keeb spending habits. Great vid!

Thanks for sharing your story, Coley. I think there's a lot of people out there that get got by FOMO and hearing someone like you, in your position and reach talk about your own personal experience with it and everything good and bad that comes with it is refreshing and needed with how fast boards are coming out now. Well done and cheers!

Really enjoyed your honest review. In terms of FOMO, I've been feeling it even though I haven't even bought my first mechanical keyboard yet. A big trigger was actually finding out I was several weeks late on the QK65 R2. It seemed like the perfect board for me and I missed it, hence I've been watching out for the next best thing like a hawk. I hope you don't get too much haters for this video, I do like to see reviews that bring up the negatives that most other reviewers don't have time to even encounter as they're probably on to the next product. Unfortunately after getting hyped up over a product, I only find the negative stories later on. Usually when I'm looking up a solution for my specific issues!

Its out! I would hate to have had these problems so thanks for the information. I was planning on getting a QK65 so this was SUPERRR helpful! Great video as always Coley! Keep up the good work!

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

hey if you like the sound tests i say go for it! like i said in the video, its the best in its price range in terms of quality, if you like the aesthetic and sound then do it!

While FOMO was a big part of my QK65 R1 purchase, I’m actually extremely happy with it. IMO, it’s a huge setup up from my KBD67 Lite R3. But I totally agree that the Owl Stabs were underwhelming (I still can’t get my backspace to stop rattling). And the board is definitely quieter than expected (although switching from Alpacas to Tungstens really helped). Thanks for sharing your experience!

@stealthkbd

Жыл бұрын

Boba U4T's on an alu plate made my co-workers really resent me lol. Way too loud with that combo for me.

@lowurcase3238

Жыл бұрын

What foams are you using? Certain foams might kill the sound of the board.

this is my first "good" keyboard. i owned something similar to an anne pro for the last years, and in my case the upgrade and feel is something i did feel and i enjoy. im still tinkering a bit to find a config that i like more, but as i have it i do like it and enjoy, feelwise especially. also now i only feel attracted to weird ass boards (yes im lookin at you libra mini). but thanks coley awesome vid!

I appreciate your honest, awesome video. I've been trying to work on my own FOMO with the community. This was a video I personally needed thank you!

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

You're so welcome - i've found myself taking my own advice too recently - passed on grabbing a JRIS65 this week

my R2 hasn't arrived yet but I'm convinced that I'm going to feel the same as you when it lands. The ISO layout I went for is already compromised and now a looming sense of meh is becoming apparent now that more people have it. I wish I'd have held out for the Ciel 65 instead. Also, amazing points about FOMO that I wish past me knew sooner.

Appreciate your candidness. I’ve recently had the same revelation around my keyboards. Taking a break and will only buy boards that really excite me. Also, what mic are you using?

love your honesty. hope i can get my hands on your coley switches, from what im hearing from soundtests it fits my preferences. more power cheers 🎉

I added the qk65 to my collection 2 days ago. It was worth the wait. I love the marbley sound of it and my clacky long pole stem switches make the best duo for this board. If I get bored of the sound I could just take out the foam and there you go, new sound profile. The build quality of this board is amazing and the potential it has is, for me, unmatched. What I think you would like is the up and coming qk60 if you want to get it. Very great keyboard.

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Жыл бұрын

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This is the POV the hobby needs. Love this take on the whole thing. You got a new sub please keep on keeping it real :)

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Жыл бұрын

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Honestly, I was considering joining the groupbuy for the QK65, but I ultimately passed on it due to me being kinda strapped for cash, never joining a groupbuy before, and not being too sure about liking a 65% or not. I honestly really enjoy the marble-y sound that people tend to strive for with their boards, but I can understannd why people wouldn't be a fan of it. Different strokes for different folks. I'll probably just wind up getting a Bakeneko 65 when I consider delving into a 65% board, since it's readily available and I've generally heard good things about it. Really great review, honesty about the issues you encountered and how you value the audience is appreciated.

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

save your money! I think there will be more marble-y boards in the future (with qmk support lmao)

Very refreshing take. To me, you're evolving your collecting tastes, now that you're intentionally trying to catch and see past your own FOMO, and it's great to hear your transparency on it. It helps me take a step back on my own feelings as a collector, which have definitely jaded to somewhere past what you're describing. Definitely going to check out that split 40% with joystick board now... 😊

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that! My tastes are definitely getting a bit funkier, the longer im in the hobby. Right now, looking for more keyboards with interesting MIDI inputs and weird layouts. Some collectors LIKE having all the same layout, and boards that don't break the uniformity. I cant relate. And yessss get a libra!! they're so cheap and fun >:D

@MarcoCarag

Жыл бұрын

@@coleydotmp4 Agreed, and also can relate. Now that I have boards that I really like, it seems silly to chase after others that only at best are minor improvements. Better indeed to explore what's completely new to me - like your Libra!

That is just unlucky Coley. Your disappoint and frustrations are understandable nonetheless. If nothing else, it's refreshing to hear your opinion as well. I have been getting on 65% besides my kbd67 and gas67, both gasket budget plastic keyboards. To be honest, it just feel good to be back on alu boards again and I have been having fun testing out configs and mats I can use to experiment on the sound profiles I can get out from it. Edit: OWL stabs, I hate to hate on free stuff but these stabs are just a bane. I had issue with it too so I switched mine with Staebies. LIFE CHANGING.

@sainteagle4426

Жыл бұрын

How did you like the GAS67, thoughts?

@lindis8030

Жыл бұрын

@@sainteagle4426 For the price, really good 65% gasket board. Sounds great even without the included silicone sheet. Just be wary though, it's northfacing pcb so you're gonna need some long pole switches.

@tristansurajbali6421

Жыл бұрын

can u compare kbd67 lite to alu keebs you own? i've been looking for something to get me a deep but still marbly sound

I like how you discussed FOMO and JOMO very interesting topic on any hobby we love to participate in. Your Libra mini video got me looking for more chilled reviews from you. Keep it up!

So I just got my R2 same as you, and while I haven't built it yet, I'm very excited to. I don't think I got it out of FOMO, but because it was a good transition from the KBD67lite into the higher end of boards without immediately breaking the bank. I can definitely understand where you're coming from with your perspective though. I'll soon be a part of 3 separate 65% boards though, but I don't feel bad about that at all lol. Best layout imo

@tristansurajbali6421

Жыл бұрын

can you compare how you moved from the kbd67 lite to the qk65? I've been looking at both and don't know which one to get. Currently I have a Keychron v2

@offbrandDavid

Жыл бұрын

@@tristansurajbali6421 Well, as of right now, the QK65 isn't available AFAIK, so your options look more like the Zoom65v2 vs the KBD67lite, or even the Keychron Q2. I really do love my QK65, and I think that it was a great second board. I don't think that the KBD67lite is different enough from the V2 from what I know, even though I don't have a V2 myself. Both are plastic boards that have southfacing LEDs, QMK and VIA, the 67lite just has more color options. If you're looking to upgrade, I would recommend finding a QK65 on the aftermarket or buying into the Zoom65 V2 GB, but the 67lite is definitely not a bad option if you're just looking for something different! Good luck.

Thank you! This made me rethink a purchase of a QK65 R2. It's a beautiful board BUT as you were starting to describe keyboard FOMO, I definitely feel it with the QK series of boards especially with all the hype around the QK75. I jumped on the Zoom 65v2 bandwagon and you reminded me that I should be satisfied with that purchase. I really appreciate your honesty and your reviews, they always sound genuine and unrehearsed. KEEP MAKING THESE PLEASE!!!

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

tbh i'd definitely get the zoom r2 over a qk65. I really like the look of that one plus you get a really clean knob +bluetooth (and they made it better than the r1 overall). The QK boards are great for their price and quality, but to someone who already has quality boards in those layouts, it might feel redundant. And thanks for the compliments and for the support!

@Yaxie

Жыл бұрын

Remember is all personal preference. I love my QK65, but it's okay if others don't like it.

@hakavillon

Жыл бұрын

@@Yaxie Definitely something I've found in this hobby, lots of different boards, switches, keycaps and mods. It is a very personal experience.

What do you prefer over the qk65?

im in love with your vids omg

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Жыл бұрын

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Have you looked at the bigwig switches from keepfront like the doom tactiles they have a hdpe top housing but they also have a pbt bottom housing and are hand lubed at the factory

A great video with many good points. Some of which I wish I could have convinced past me to acknowledge before I bought stuff. The first is FOMO. It is so real in this hobby. I made multiple purchases where there was at least a little buyer’s remorse and at least very redundant buys. I want to attribute part of that to the group buy model. How else can I explain the nine 65% boards I own. I have learned over time that each one has their own little personality and my habits of not using the same switches twice and a variety of different keycap picks. Still, when I look at the latest 60% and 65% offerings, it has (thankfully) become a tough sell for me and something truly unique has to be on the table to get me to consider shelling out for these form factors. Firmware and the pain it brings. I do not pretend to be an expert on QMK or the intricacies of the USB interface. Based on my experience with coding and troubleshooting other microcontrollers and hardware, my guess is one of three things: 1)The software USB implementation library 2)Some oddball code state the microcontroller gets into. 3)A hardware silicon level design bug inherent to the microcontroller. What does make it odd is how rare the occurrence is and how tough it is to reproduce. In terms of sound and feel preferences, I have nothing to add. It’s your board, your preferences, and you can and should tune it to a configuration that does it for you. As for flex cuts and extra thin PCBs, I have my own issues with these things. My hope is that KZreadrs will just stop horsing on their boards to show how much flex there is. Just. Stop. Pushing. Last up, did I buy this board / want one. For me, no. I have not been excited by Owl Labs after watching the disaster that was Mr. Suit (round 1) Are their designs bad? No. However, the connection of the QK65 to Owl was one reason to skip it. The other more pragmatic reason is that I really did not need the board. I have comparable boards and also much more fancy ones as well. I am not the target audience the QK65 is shooting for. As for unique boards. The 40% crowd are the ones who always seem to get my attention (such as the Libra mini and boards by a designer that makes a lot of different FR4 skeleton boards). So many new and weird layouts. It always feels like there’s something fresh, even if I don’t like the design. I respect the 40% community's brand of crazy a great deal.

I have had something similar happen to me just by having a switch with 1 bent pin, I don't remember on which board, but maybe you can check if that is the case with yours too

I had something like this happen to me but not with the QK65. It was due to bad leaf in a switch I had installed. It was causing that switch to activate itself over and over non-stop.

I like your honesty!! Personally it's worthwhile for me since it's going to be my 2nd keyboard, and my 1st custom one hehe so im pretty excited to finally get a premium keyboard

Thank you! Keep doing all the things!

do you think you would have felt the same if you had the qk65 first and had bought the bakenoko and other keyboards after?

Hi Coley, just wondering if the r1 pcb fixed your issues? I am experiencing the same thing and qk offered to send one to me. Thanks :)

I hated my qk65. it just didn't feel right. hopefully they improve with the 75 I ordered recently.

Did the R2 board ever get working? It sounds a bit like the board was signaling a Windows button combination… so maybe it was a signal error on the PCB due to a manufacturing issue, or something in the MCU firmware unable to deal with some special case in the USB protocols.

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

Hey, yes so the OG pcb that they sent out did fix the issue. that used a standard MCU that you'd find on other boards, but the r2 pcb had a proprietary MCU made by QK (either to cut costs or in response to the chip shortage, idk). Something on that MCU was causing the glitch, but you're correct that it was causing a ton of windows key-based commands to be rapidly inputted which would then crash my computer. or something along those lines. Luckily QK sent me that OG pcb asap and it hasn't glitched out since. And i had a few people in the comments of this video have the same issue, they all were able to get replacements to my knowledge. I'm not sure why this issue only happened to me and a handful of other people, even after updating windows, hard resets, etc. But I respect that QK was quickly able to remedy the situation.

Watching the video, do Staebies work for 1.2mm pcbs? Bought some tx stabs only to realize they weren't compatible (1.6mm and wk instead of 1.2 and wkl). I see Coley used them but I can't find anywhere online if they are compatible with 1.2mm pcbs

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

Staebies are standard screw ins, so they *should* work. I dont think I have a thinner pcb to try them out on, though.

@justinfournier2521

Жыл бұрын

tx stabs have 1.2mm variants though! you can still use your 1.6mm ones with shims so don't throw them out!!!

I just realized check your cable too. I have a keychron q2 and was using a custom coiled cable and for the longest time I couldn’t figure out why it was doing almost same thing as yours where the keys would get stuck and type an infinite amount of e’s and a’s. My custom cable worked with my other keyboards but not the q2. I switched cables and it didn’t give me problems after. Try that and maybe it will solve the problem?

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

Hey! yes that's a great suggestion. BUT, i have never had an issue with this cable. Also, important to note, i am typing on the qk65 rn, because QWERTYkeys sent over the r1 pcb, with the old MCU. I rebuilt it. I have yet to run into the issue and ive been using it for two days (used to happen every hour or so). so fingers crossed that it fixed the issue!

High-key ur hair is amazing. Also awesome video !

I absolutely love my QK65 R1, but I'm in kind of the exact opposite situation than what you described. It's my first 65, and the only other premium board I owned was a Bakeneko60 which I traded for some keycaps. I was able to make it exciting by succumbing to my inner gremlin and making it the most Blue keyboard of all time. MK3 Dasher keycaps (what I traded the Bakeneko60 for), all blue champion edition NK Creams (I had to know what they felt like), and the blue and gold case. I definitely bounced out of the hobby for 3 months after purchase tho, and not out of total satisfaction. It's my main keyboard and I love it, but it just does its job. It took a walking shitpost from Mechwild to bring me back in. EDIT: Also definitely gonna pick up some Stabies, the owlstabs are trash. Thanks for the rec.

@_ExTitus

Жыл бұрын

Is the clunker that walking shitpost? Because I can't wait to build it

@JoNoEe

Жыл бұрын

@@_ExTitus Nearly!! The Alish is the one that actually got me, even though the clunker is the better shitpost. Ive been dying to build another 40% or something in an arisu layout and this satisfies both.

Thank's for being so honest!

I don't have QK65 but I thought I was the only one not wanting "too heavy" keyboards. Wonderful and informative video! Thanks for the content. 🙂

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching. if you need me, ill be doing bicep curls with my qk65.

@Caution40404

Жыл бұрын

@@coleydotmp4 That would be dope! Hahah.

I discovered your channel recently and I've been watching through. My Libra Mini does the same thing your QK65 was doing. I was thinking the connection was faulty but if it's straight up a compatibility issue then I'm a little upset.

Nice video, very interesting. What mobo do you have that does not work well with the keyboard?

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

QWERTYkeys' own proprietary MCU is on the R2 PCB. this is different from the R1 PCB which is a standard one that works in QMK.

@francescocipullo3436

Жыл бұрын

@@coleydotmp4 yes, but I was asking what motherboard your PC has as it could be that the incompatibility is with the motherboard

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

@@francescocipullo3436 omg apologies i read that so quickly i misread. Motherboard is an Asus B550 wifi

The golden rule in this hobby (and other similar hobbies) is that it's all about personal preference. It's interesting that all the points you made on why you dislike the QK65 are the same reasons why I love the board. I love the heft/denseness of the board, I had no problem using Owlstabs (in fact most of my boards use Owlstabs lol), and I'm not put off by its standard config. On the flip side, I regret buying the KBD67 lite, and I have tried my friend's Libra40 and have arrived to hate 40s haha (I wish they make a 65% or even a 60% version of the Libra40). As for the FOMO thing, I admit I got sucked into the QK65, but my previous board was the KBD67 lite, so I had no regrets setting my alarm early enough to snag the board. I'm at a point now in the hobby where I watch keyboard videos purely for entertainment (and maybe some education) and not for purchasing advice. If anything, I've watched a few negative reviews on boards that I wish I didn't listen/take their advice on and have regretted not buying the first time (for example, the Rama U-80, I love this board and no one can say otherwise!). Anyway I'm rambling. Finally, no Coley, I'm not angry for your personal experience and opinions about the board. Why should anyone be angry? That's just weird. Again this friggin' hobby is about preference, so ultimately, who cares?!

@nathant5052

Жыл бұрын

I had slight regrets on the kbd67 lite too

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

Thats the beautiful thing about the hobby - and also one of its biggest causes of infighting, lol. I like what you said because its true- at the end of almost every point, I was a broken record saying "which is something you might love about it!". This video admittedly was really hard to make and put out knowing that a lot of people were going to disagree with me. I'm really happy you like the board :)

I can relate to wanting lighter boards for casual use. I experienced first hand how heavy aluminium boards actually were, when my Q1 landed on my head. Maybe plastic boards aren't so bad after all. Might pick up a KBD67 Lite again for a Gameboy themed build.

@joelman1989

Жыл бұрын

Ok wait. Backtrack. How did the Q1 end up on your head? Lol

Hey unrelated to the video premise, but where can I get those wooden stands you use in the intro?

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

fun fact, its actually a tiny wooden bench i found at a vintage thrift shop! BUT. you can buy little benches at craft stores in the wooden section and stain them, its a super easy, cheap craft. I have a feeling that mine was once a craft store bench and the OG owner stained it. Works really well as a keyboard stand!

I feel the same way about my gmmk pro, it was my first keyboard but i bought into all the hype around it being the "best" budget board and really regretted it. i heard one of the more interesting configurations for the qk65 is plate foam only.

@stryke1989

Жыл бұрын

You just didn’t do proper research. Every respected KZreadr was extremely transparent about its shortcomings lol.

I might be just lucky, but I had an easy time tuning the owlstabs on my board. Zero ticking, everything feels snappy.

Idk if any of you know about the QK65 R1 Ashkeebs shipping situation going on right now, but man I ordered my Qk65 back in April and after numerous delays and shipping issues it will be back in Canada in November when it originally was slated to arrive at my doorstep in July/August. If it's just getting to Canada in November I won't see it until January/February with holiday shipping issues :')

your voice is so soothing, it genuinely calms my soul

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Жыл бұрын

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I didn’t like the sound of the board at first until I try only using the PE foam. For now it sound good to me.

Got my qk65 r2 and absolutely no issues at all. You probably got a bad batch. Sorry to hear about your issue.

It looks and sounds awesome 😍

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Жыл бұрын

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I found the problem with owlstabs is its tolerance can be so tight that pbt keycaps may not fit these tolerances, becoming sluggish as the stems scrape against the sides of the housings. Only fix has been to thoroughly bend the devil out of them.

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Жыл бұрын

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Thank you! I went from FOMO to JOMO thanks to you, who also taught me what JOMO is hahaha. Great video!!!!

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Жыл бұрын

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someone had to say it coley I got the FOMO and got a qk65 and space65 it's legit the same thing I felt good for a day or two cuz I had 400$ piece of metal on my table but I sold it both of them and I'm way happier.

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

Ugh i feel this. Yeah a few people weren't happy with this video, but it had to be said. luckily, i was able to mod the board and find a switch/keycap configuration that i like (and got the r1 pcb that doesnt break my computer). So for now, I'm holding onto it.

I currently own a mr suit which is like the big brother to this board I think 🙃 I do have to agree with you that the muted sound gets boring quick. I ended up on inks on pom no foam with my board which has more of a keyboard sound than the pe + foams sound 😶

always want to try the stabies but cant seem to find them anywhere. Anyone have idea where to purchase online for US?

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Жыл бұрын

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I have bought a QK65 but it has not arrived yet. I feel like it will be a great addition to my collection as it is small at the monemnt b main board is a next time 75 and my other board is a corsair k63 with tactiles soldered into it. I do not own a 65% keyboad yet.

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

yep! its going to be a huge upgrade for ya thats for sure!

windows has a shortcut for linked in. its ctrl+alt+win+shift+L i believe. seems like the board spammed that shortcut due to a firmware error. Im sure its not a virus though. ctrl, alt, shift and win are all the modifier bits of a key code being set to 1.

Love this video and love the perspective on the hobby! I do think being honest with ourselves and taking some time to really check in and ask why we want a board and tempering the hype would be a much healthier way of engaging the hobby. Haaaaaving said that I DID buy two of these but one is the Ashkeebs gb that is hella delayed and I'm just gonna sell at cost when I get and the other is the green and gold one mostly as a home for MW Voynich whenever that GB is fulfilled 😅 for me at least, it was mostly because I had a specific build in mind I wanted to do

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Жыл бұрын

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I came to see your opinion about the keyboard and finally stayed for that GigaCute corgi.

the qk65 was the best first 65% I could have ever purchased :) sad u didn't have a good experience with it!

i loved my qk65, and for me, i made it super flexy using no foams at all. idk, i love the board too much, but thats my opinion

how would you rank the bakeneko, kbd67 lite , and the qk65?

@kaeroseon

10 ай бұрын

the bakeneko with silicone weight has a more unique sound, but the KBD67 lite and qk65 sounds slightly better overall. The bake doesnt require foam while the KBD and QK rely on foam to make them sound good. If you want a 1 and done, get the QK. If you want to explore the hobby, I'd say get the bake because then you can explore different config and you can feel the differences more clearly.

almost got into the fomo of not getting the qk65. but then i realised how much i love my kbd67 lite as it was my first build from barebones set and it was already so good.. so i ended up waiting for a 75% board (Q1) instead to go on sale and got that instead to try more mods on that.

so is the kbd67 enough even tho i could spend 200 more to get the QK65? or is it simply not worth? i just want the most thock/creamy sound possible help :(

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

for most thocky, the 67 lite is thockier. but i think overall the qk sounds more refined, if that makes sense. you should listen to as many sound tests as possible and make a decision.

@wintradebuster9015

Жыл бұрын

@@coleydotmp4 ty

very refreshing keeb video

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Жыл бұрын

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I've heard that owlstabs sound good with some batchs but some are really bad its a bit of a50/50

If you do get flamed, it won't be from reasonable people. What you described in this video is what separates true enthusiasts and the rest of the people who just want a nice board that they can enjoy typing on. When I got into the rabbit hole, I got FOMO and got in on the the vega gb, got the mr suit. Before I got these, I got an entry level board, which I loved typing on. It was miles ahead of other premade mk's. I expected that mr suit and vega would provide an even stellar experience than my entry level board. After all, the entry level board which I did all the mods for stabs, switches, sound, etc was so much better than a drop ctrl or any other premade board. After building Mr Suit, I "thought" i enjoyed the marbly sound then it became a distraction. Was it much better typing experience than the entry level board? No. Take away the sound and you've got a board that just feels different but not "better". So I immediately sold mr suit and vega. I might get flamed for this, but at this point, it's mostly materialism. It's about feeling good that you have a keycult or a jelly on your desk. The only difference is that you've got a more expensive piece of metal on your desk. And this can be proved by the fact that tiger 80 lite is considered an amazing board to type on. But it's NOT 6036 cnc alumnium with brass weights! Yeah that's the difference. So at this point, the deciding factor of getting a board for me will be mainly aesthetics.

@hotwings6918

Жыл бұрын

same here. My first board which is the bakaneko60 I love typing on it and main it til this day. I bought the space65 and qk65. Same thing just 2z the price. Sold it and spent that money on "experimenting" on my bakaneko and I love it

@hotwings6918

Жыл бұрын

2x*

@getalifeyoulosernerdfuckyo6164

Жыл бұрын

W take

coley out here saving people’s wallets, one video at a time

can relate. built my R1 and sold it after an hour 😂 parallel sequence is much better imho

As I currently type this with my r2 board, I've really enjoyed my first board in this hobby, but I totally understand the perspective in the video and it sucks to hear about the problems it's brought.

@USERNAME-Frankie_Techs

Жыл бұрын

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I would say the mounting style and the sound that QK65 provides is way different than what Bakeneko and KBD67lite.So ,the evaluation here is what kind of sound you are looking for in the hobby,instead of whether it's the best or not. Though, I too share the same feeling that I am indifferent to the QK65.

Nice point and also nice video!

@USERNAME-Frankie_Techs

Жыл бұрын

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Dam, the only youtuber I've seen to say its not flexy/bouncy. AND I AGREE! I felt really baited when I typed on it and it just didn't feel good cuz all the influencers commented on how bouncy/flexy it was. Maybe if its your first gasket board or above "budget level" board, but its honestly a stiff typing experience imo. I enjoyed the kbd67 lite a bit more honestly, and that's when I realized I had to sell my qk65.

Great video!

I bought an owlabs spring off someone and the owlstabs are just not great. Actually ended up replacing them with old Kbd67 lite stabs I had.

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

OH wow. if you're even replacing the owlstabs with kbdfans stabs... thats not good hahaha. idk why everyone was praising them in reviews!!

I don't get having several "budget" boards that aren't otherwise unique in some way (e.g. joystick or something like the MechWild Clunker). I'd rather have one "premium" board than a bunch of budget boards that are essentially indistinguishable (which is what I'd say about having a 67 Lite, QK65, etc.) I have a MechWild Mercurio 40% through hole build for fun and tinkering, a 67 Lite for the office, and an MM Studio Class 65 for home. Feels like a good mix.

@USERNAME-Frankie_Techs

Жыл бұрын

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I got the exact same issue on my kbd67 lite, maybe its a common issue with pcbs

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

oh! super interesting. I hope if anyone knows more information about this glitch, they let us know whats really going on. its so odd!

It’s a bit scary that the “bug” was specifically trying to open a Microsoft login page. It would be one thing if it was spitting random text or was stuck sending some modifier key. But to specifically be opening an MS login page seems really specific.

forget the board, i really heard all the fomo talk and angle in this video. shit made a lot of sense. having just letting the qk75 gb pass me by due to finances and xmas season. as much as i tried to stretch to make the group buy, i couldnt justify dropping the cash and waiting 3 months, when the money could be better used not only for xmas but for much smarter uses today. already have a 75, and a 65 that i have modded out and love atm. but man was it a well reviewed board and ticked all the boxes for me in a board i would want. thanks for the fomo reminder and to stay out of it. lol. certainly dont mind letting this one pass me by now. ask me again in a few months when everyone receives theirs haha. i typically have been watching all the bigger youtubers like keybored etc, just stumbled across yours. has already entertained me for at least an hour as i watched a few of them. thank you for the content.

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind comment :') I think for the price of a QK75 you can definitely get some amazing gifts for family and friends. Plus, i've heard some of the plates for that board are too tight.. i'm definitely holding off.

What at computer is the one that this issue is having?

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

Windows 10 custom built pc - AMD cpu, nvidia GPU

Haha I bet your fomo will review the Wooting 60HE soon. :) But I subscribed and I hope that made you feel a little bit better.

Waiting for a product makes it so much more satisfying to receive

I've been doing budget almost exclusively and only have one 65% custom build with a tofu. If I was to go into high end I couldn't see myself getting another 65. The Mode Sonnet REALLY has me interested

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

the cool thing about a tofu is that its a sandbox for mods! You're right about the sonnet.

@hexxythegrouch1798

Жыл бұрын

From the reviews and streams I've seen of the Sonnet, it should be a solid (but pricey) board. My personal experience with the 80 and 65 is they are nice and some of the easiest builds I've ever done. Mode is expensive though, especially when you start adding the more fancy elements to the purchase.

buy the aurora65 please i want an actual keyboarder to review it

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

can you link me? I'm interested.

I was already burned out on 65% before I heard about the qk65 r1 but the dark green r2 with the chroma weight drew me in and I bought it. I'll likely be selling all my 65% except for the kbd67lite. I know people don't like soldering keyboards together as much but soldered layouts are pretty awesome, keeps it interesting. ps: Translucent purple kbd67lite r3 is my baby. I'd rather give it away to someone who could enjoy it than sell it.

Bad batches of owlstabs I can agree are bad and they have quite a few qc issues because it isn’t uncommon but if you a normal batch they’re pretty good

I’m having FOMO with the Sonnet. I already have the 80. It’s wonderful. I know the Sonnet will be great too but is it REALLY necessary. I don’t have a 75% yet and the irrational voice in my head keeps reminding me of that. But I know part of me will regret the purchase. FOMO is for real. Great content!

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

the difference between the 80 and a 75 is so minimal in terms of layout, plus, who needs f keys? in this economy????

I own a few 65% keyboards as well; D65, QK65, Portico, lkki68, Mode 65, and EVO70. I mostly view keyboards and switches the same way I viewed trading cards as a kid. They have value, I enjoy them, and I could sell them if I ever needed the extra cash. I regularly rotate my boards and I keep going back to the QK65 and the Mode 65 for long periods. I also enjoy my goofy keyboards. I'm typing on a Seigeiha, I have a Lily58, Breeze split keyboard, Game Roy Advance, Mercutio, and an Orange Boy Ergo. Cheaper DIY projects and switch modding are my favorite parts of the hobby, so I agree. Go wild with the weird stuff! It's fun! When it comes to productivity though, 65% with a numpad on the side is what works best for me.

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

OOF if i had a mode65 id be typing on it right now! haha. And yes, that layout you mentioned is awesome (i actually have one, an akko acr 98mini), we need more boards with funky layouts.

@joelman1989

Жыл бұрын

@@coleydotmp4 wow! I’ve been looking for this exact layout and just checked this Akko board out. It has arrows, a numpad and delete key. That’s everything I need outside of the 60 keys!!!

I got R1 and had zero problems (ok one hot swap socket was broken and i had to solder another one from my old first board which i use for spare parts) but it cured my FOMO and evwry time something new comes up im like "yeah my board is better" all i need is minimum 68 key (75% would be welcome) VIA compatibility and good sound/build quality

@USERNAME-Frankie_Techs

Жыл бұрын

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That’s such a wild problem… I didn’t even know a keyboard could be incompatible with a computer

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

me either. thats why i wiped my computer and reinstalled the OS. I genuinely thought i had some sort of OS problem, or a virus.

@Tulkas805

Жыл бұрын

@@coleydotmp4 I think i'm experiencing the same problems with my r2 pcb. I've had the keyboard open up a ton of programs, activate the narrator app, flicker between open programs, lock my mouse to zoom on my browser as if I were holding down ctrl and a few other things. Customer service on the discord basically asked me to take the same steps as you, aside from wiping my pc. They'll be mailing me a r1 pcb as a resolution.

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

@@Tulkas805 Im sorry to hear that. I can happily report that the r1 pcb has fixed the issue. i havent run into the glitch since switching. Really glad to hear they are helping everyone with the issue

Just watched this today, and I have to say I'm in the same boat. I bought a complete kit, some extra plates, and an additional top + bottom case because I thought I'd have fun messing around with it. But I realized I already have tons of 65%s that I'm happy with, and although the QK65 is a good product, I just don't have any need for it, nor does it "spark joy" aesthetically. So, I'm gonna be selling mine, unbuilt.

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

exactly.. perfect way to word it. It does not particularly spark joy, at least not enough to justify the purchase. if it was my first board,, i think i'd be really happy.

This is refreshing to hear. The mech community is definitely not immune to group think, it's good to have some other opinions out there. Thanks.

Holy crap that QK sounds amazing haha.

DUDE THIS HAPPENED TO ME!!!! I JUST BUILT IT LITERALLY YESTERDAY AND I CANT USE IT UNLESS I USE A SPECIFIC CABLE

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

the amount of comments and dms i've gotten about this is so disheartening. reach out to QWERTYkeys ASAP!

I know this isn't a Bakeneko review but since you seem to like it a lot, I just want to share my opinion. Personally, from all the boards I own, I think Bakeneko is probably the lowest quality board. It's very unique and has really cool Unikorn style mounting system but they really need to work on the finishes. Maybe it doesn't bother others but I don't even like looking at it because of all the flaws. Also the corner switches are often lifting off due to o-ring compressing it since it doesn't have stand-off to hold the o-ring so I don't think it's a very well designed board. It was interesting to hear you praise Bakeneko just because my impression was completely the opposite. I guess people value different aspects.

@coleydotmp4

Жыл бұрын

I totally see where you're coming from. yes, those are some inherent problems with the board. but once it's built, it really isnt much of an issue. I also didn't have that problem with the corner switches, luckily. What i love about the bakeneko is the form factor, easy build, weight of it, how easy it is to pick one up, etc. its like, ol' reliable to me. Its not perfect - the canonkeys plate is really bad and some of the finishes (the new ones they came out with are much better) are not great (I have the painted white - its not perfect but ts not TERRIBLE.). I don't think the bakeneko is inherently better - as i say in the video, it ISNT objectively better than the qk65. but i dont feel that the two boards are different enough to justify owning both, plus a 67 lite. at least, to my own preferences of my keeb collection. Hope that clears it up!

Omg your dog is so cutee

I like this board overall, but I agree with you that the lack of flex was disappointing. For all those flex cuts and the fact that it's made by an Owlab sister company, you'd expect it to be a much softer typing experience. The kbd67 light has just as much flex, if not slightly more.

i wish i could find staebies :(

It seems the QK65 was a waste of time and money for you, with both being quite precious to you, too. It's a good board, although not perfect. But if you have something close enough already, why bother getting this too? I started out with a GMMK, then a Pro, both in localized ISO, which is a PITA to find keycaps for. I then picked up a really cheap kbd67 lite in ANSI to see if I could get used to both the ANSI-US Layout and the 65% form factor. Turns out the answer is yes. I had been wanting to replace my GMMK Pro for a bit because I was dissatisfied with the sound and feel of it. And since I built the kbd67 lite to be a work keeb (ultra silent with Boba U4), I needed another board. QK65 rolled around at the right time. It does what I set out for it to do, sound and feel a lot nicer than the GMMK Pro. It does have its own issues, though. I have the tri mode PCB and the firmware for that (I miss QMK so much) is a hot mess. Had to really lean onto support to get them to release a firmware that had a sane debounce delay (board shipped with over 20ms. then the next one had like 2ms so it chattered like crazy, industry standard is 5.) The 2.4GHz wireless is also kind of useless because it actually has more latency than the bluetooth connection. But the battery life is really nice. Generally, I'm still in the market for another 65. I can live just fine without the F row since I use caps as a momentary layer switch. But I'm looking for something that gives me a knob again, but without sacrificing one of the four extra keys on the right. Maybe they'll do another Voice65 or something similar.

@wintradebuster9015

Жыл бұрын

how was the transition from kbd67lite to QK65? im contemplating about these exact 2 boards, kbd is 200€ cheaper for me...

QK65 is a great board for me though. So sad to hear your opinion. 😢

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