I think it would be cool if you allowed yourself to build 1 raven in this challenge, but you can't use it for anything but anti-armor missile, it's just so satisfying to watch marines with upgrade advantage absolutely shred units.

@thelenster7697

Жыл бұрын

110% agree that would be so cool!!!!

@CyberiaChild

Жыл бұрын

i think building one raven should be allowed since its a utility unit. what if opponent plays dts

@dankcrypt3227

Жыл бұрын

Vote, Vote, Vote

@saswatadebnath

Жыл бұрын

Raven FTW!

@TmanTheTdog

Жыл бұрын

@@CyberiaChild CC scan

uThermal, "That was a little bit of a massive blunder on the part of our opponent..." LOL

@Eddyhartz

Жыл бұрын

The respectful disrespect.

Imagine not calling it "The Cheese Sandwich".

@ildar.ishalin.chelovek

Жыл бұрын

Cheeseburger!

@janko5234

Жыл бұрын

@@ildar.ishalin.chelovek You dont get it .....or is it me ? :D

@OMIMreacts

Жыл бұрын

cheese sandwich is perfect!

@JesusShaves5

Жыл бұрын

10/10

@zaksmith1035

Жыл бұрын

The problem is I get grilled every time I play it.

You could pull a Florencio and stack two SVCs. Even if he sees it, as long as they split out of view, it just looks like one SCV.

@Alexander_Sannikov

Жыл бұрын

genius

@GruppeSechs

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was wondering why he didn't try. Too honorable to exploit maybe.

@WhatsY0UTUB3

Жыл бұрын

@@GruppeSechs not an exploit

@GruppeSechs

Жыл бұрын

@@WhatsY0UTUB3 Yeah, because stacking workers was definitely intended by the devs.

Thermy, in game 1 you revealed the roach warren with your attack, you are not a silly goose. Also, thanks for the daily uploads, your content is 10/10

For your bunker cheese you should stack the scvs then split off one when out of vision, to make it look like on scv scouting.

On the 2 reactors into tech lab build: If you hide the second reactor barracks somewhere on your side of the map. The Marines staying hidden to flank an attack or for a nasty timing. Don't need to proxy close to their base, just needs to fool them into thinking your army is half the size.

@Nil-js4bf

Жыл бұрын

This definitely can work against Protoss. Hidden marines on map can just walk into natural unnoticed. I remember Polt tried a more advanced version by hiding 2-3 rax on the map for a marine marauder timing but he died cause Rain (ironically given how he's typically a defensive player) did a void ray all in against him.

" why am i telling you how to stop my cheese?" my favorite quote by Marc yet

I would also suggest looking at Harstem's superfast infantry upgrades for bio. He did a video where he made the engi bay right after the barracks, and had +1 finished by 3:30 or something. It seemed to work quite well! some food for thought maybe

I laugh whenever Marc goes "Agh no pleeease" while microing to save his SCVs, so genuine haha. Butt clenching.

Cheese failed successfully

Guitarcheese was rank #1 GM on NA during HOTS for a while. Ketroc beat him with mass ravens

"I don't know how this attack ended up being good. That makes absolutely no sense.." xD you are so hilarious, I love it. Great content btw

"theres probably giong to be a mismicro knowing my protoss players... and theres the mismicro we were hoping for" lmaoo

Call the Double Bunker cheese the Bunk Bed Build 🤣

@phillgizmo8934

Жыл бұрын

I had a light phobia that upper bed would fall down with me on the upper, sleeping on a lower bed seemed cozy.

@zaksmith1035

Жыл бұрын

@@phillgizmo8934 I had a light phobia that the bed on top of me would fall on me.

TLO, back in the beginning of WoL, had a 6 rax strategy. He would scout of Zerg had an expansion, and then put 5 more Rax and just pump out marines non-stop. Of course, this was back in the day so many changes (such as Mules) have happened, but something like a "surprise - 12 Rax 2 Base all-in" should be interesting. You can even set those up very close to the opponent for faster reinforcement, and practice your micro skills ;)

@jamiereid7428

Жыл бұрын

TLO was my favourite, and what got me excited about watching SC2

@Popbrain1

Жыл бұрын

@@jamiereid7428 i used to watch MarineKing back then. True OG marine micro god

The fun feeling for each video is envisioning the other guy saying to himself, “this guy is playing like a pro. What the hell!”

Those games are really fun to watch. Thx for the great inspirational content.

"a little bit of a massive blunder by our opponent there" 😄

So unreal you are so cool under pressure You make the opponent make his own mistakes. I really enjoy learning from you.

All you videos are very entertaining! Love your commentary.

i played mostly during wings of liberty right at launch and i seem to remember making combat shields before stim every game. not that i ever progressed past platinum league, but it just made more sense to give my marines more health than drain them before i had medivacs. however maybe that's why i never progressed XD

This 'grilled cheese' is probably flustering your opponents

@Ahrpigi

Жыл бұрын

Grilled cheese sounds like Hellions and anti-armor missile from the Ravens challenge

Since I live in Canada your video is my breakfast dessert. Thanks for posting.

It should be called Bouble Dunker.

I dont play sc at all and yet i find your videos very entertaining! cheers

Double bunker rush timing attack, genius build...who knew you could time a double bunker rush

At 20:26 you could have moved that barracks closer to the bunker, so that when the adept came to attack the barracks, it would not find it and think you flew the barracks back home.

Last Game with the collosus: super Micro, luckiest man ever. I like that

fastest possible 1-1 stim combat shields . medivacs with scv sheild

As much as i loved fancy builds i love the cheeses, so cheap and dumb :D

You have me addicted to your show theme/style. Please consider a battle cruiser combo challenge. Is that possible?

@hm09235nd

Жыл бұрын

Liberator Marauder

Honestly surprised to see Padre still playing, I played against him in Masters / low GM back in 2014. I think he was a WCS America player back then.

silly goose is my new favorite word, greatings from Bolivia

supporting this

This is SO good! Opponent at this level are so freaking hard!

Last game I can answer dat question. The reason he never made a second colossus is because he's going for the 1 colossus challenge instead of the 1 Ultra challenge

Idea for a map like Stargazers: Stack two SCVs and send them to scout, once your opponent is not looking you split the SCVs, one acts the scout but the other one builds a proxy in that free base. Or, send three, two stacked, the third one builds rax near the free base to be flown there later and the split SCV builds a bunker there straightaway.

Wondering if you would do a "mindgame to GM" series. Basically, you are required to trick the opponent in some form or way. Dunno if it can be pulled off easily, but that is for you to decide whether it would be fun;)

is really enjoyable to see all u challenge with marine, ghost, hellion/raven etc but i don't see a lot of thor! i wonder if u can make chalenge with thor (with other unit) to grandmaster in one of your futur chalenge ?

The bunker clunker.

@randyg9291

Жыл бұрын

this

Pls, I'm new to SC, at 0:34 how do you send the scv's to mine without your mouse?

I love your videos, any plans for off race challenges?0

Going back through Marine-Medivac. June 2023. This is my life 😅

Almost 50k let’s gooo, I’d name the cheese “sandwich cheese” because u sandwich 🥪 the person from both sides

In the second game why did you land so close to his assimilator?

20-0 with mass marine/medivac. Is this a testament to uThermal's build and micro skills or just how terrible we are a players on the NA server?

@TurkeyMeat

Жыл бұрын

Lol he is still in masters, I would assume (hope) that gm players will beat it in the coming episodes

@bronzecomeshome9517

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@echofarm5237

Жыл бұрын

in the last challenges, he usually lost to cheese or something weird. now, he has enough units to not lose at the start of the match. so he is making better progress. i don't think it is bcs of you guys playing on NA

You’re second game, what you could have done and send the SUV into the mineral line act like it’s a normal scout while sending the second SUV towards the barracks for the bunker

Hi Uthermal what do you think of TheCore layout? It seems most of the gameplay habits are layout-agnostic, so you regain your former speed after like a week of playing. Interested to hear your thoughts and analysis.

To be bair, this is not only mass marines, but mass SCVs too at this point. :D

Hey, how can you change colour. Mine is either red or green. I dont like it

What about pushing to +2/+2 ASAP? I guess it'd mean putting upgrades ahead of stim / cs.

23:28 -- I don't see his army outside of uThermal's base on the minimap. Where was it?

That's literally the Terran version of a Zerg rush

Speaking of timing attacks, I've wondered for a while if doing a Supply Calldown in the early game would help you to hit a timing attack, especially in the case of Marines. I know that they're pointless in the late game since players just build a bunch of Orbitals and PFs, but I very rarely ever see them used even in the early game by most pro players, and I wonder if there's any potential there.

@jinjeong323

Жыл бұрын

For a timing you usually need all the money you can get. -> Mule > 1 scv + 100minerals saved

21:54 One Piece's Brook laugh

When your strategy fails, but you win anyway

Would it be possible to have marines as 2 command groups, and stim the back line early in the game, while the front doesn't stim? Might be stupid, just curious listening to you talk about using workers in front of stimmed marines.

@Boggerbead

Жыл бұрын

Better to have more DPS and the "Free" meat from SCVs

@CyberiaChild

Жыл бұрын

you could stim 40 out of 50 marines and have improved dps only for those 40, or you could have 50 marines and 20 scvs, while stimming all marines and losing none of their hp while scv are alive

@TheMuffinman191

Жыл бұрын

Not efficient, it takes too much apm to effectively hamstring your dps. The faster you enemies die, the sooner they stop shooting you. The extra hp only matter for things like tank splash, face tanking banes and colossus. All of these things are better dead though, and stim gives a speed boost as well as fire rate so getting on top of these things faster is better than eating an extra shot on slightly meatier marines that dont shoot too good.

I can't believe that Colossus fight =0

Since you're only using Marines, you could call it Government Cheese. (For the record Government cheese was a thing that used to be provided to low income familes in the USA as part of a nutritional assistance program. And that's why it's a solid pun, at least in the US.)

@echofarm5237

Жыл бұрын

nice info tnx

Honestly, I love the idea of you being allowed hero units: You can make only one of any unit not marines but only one of that unit. Just seems kinda cool as a concept.

Pro plays going on

is 4 gate blink the ultimate test for all of the challenges in starcraft?

@josefanon8504

Жыл бұрын

I can't think of any exceptions

15:32 wtff i also thought he had a colossus

Definitely an accidental wings of liberty build XD

Omg that poor colossus

Those things you do.. they should not work, but they work nonetheless! :D

The Marine Meatball

cheese is cool for one episode but i'm most curious to see how marines would fare against an endgame army

@TheMuffinman191

Жыл бұрын

Bad, it just turns into the drop only challenge again. You basically have to push a basetrade with multiprong and never fight his army. 200 supply of marines cant beat 6 colossus with carrier overhead unless you split functionally every marine enough to avoid splash.

@soongwanjun9381

Жыл бұрын

Unless you got micro-jackson or else you should be dreaming on defeat, especially with zerg has lurker, baneling and infestor which has potential to kill marine almost instantly

What a god

I know you are craving for challenges and I have one for you! Can you make an episode with Spanish comentary? I think this should fit nicelly into your travel

You should call it the guitar cheese

i just finished last episode lamo

I would love to see a Norse inspired attempt to get grandmaster. You can only build Scandinavian named units: Marauders, Thor's, Vikings, Ravens. The catch, is that you can only deploy what fits into a longboat (medivac). Treat the low grounds as the ocean, so no early scouts until you get medivac.

@bungusmcchungus

Жыл бұрын

that definitely sounds impossible

lmao great games. epic cheese

*watches uThermal* SC looks so easy, maybe I could play it *plays it* Oh..

wat, this is exactly how i play every time :0 im not a regularly sc2 player lol

34:14 I'm suffering so much seeing this

In fighting games I think I heard casters call this a gimmick. It's a play that counts on your opponents misplaying.

You just invented the "failed double cheese" cheese, didn't you ?

all of uthermal's alt accounts are like 50% of the sc2 playerbase

@gabrielcamiloanunciatodeol2566

Жыл бұрын

What? No

@MrIKicker

Жыл бұрын

@@gabrielcamiloanunciatodeol2566 sarcasm is hard

Do super fast upgrades, 1,1 timing

Let's go

>Reveals his marine to the opponent's assimilator on the edge of its vision "The level of these players are a little bit too high." :/

StinkyMarines. Or PloughMarine. Or BooMarines? 😆

My submission for the name is the Dual Rack Drop

I think you can get number 1 on NA with this challenge.

What about a "No hotkey" challange?

crazy cheese xD

The marine cheese are wonderful

gg wp

Guitarcheese lost to _the_ cheese lol

20-0 is the longest winning streak yet?

Player at end lifted their colossus because they wanted to blink the stalkers out and knew that would cost him the unit so this was his solution, it didn't work out.

@echofarm5237

Жыл бұрын

can't colossus just walk down? i remember it could in hots

@dorbie

Жыл бұрын

@@echofarm5237 Yes, slowly, it'd be the last to leave and the Marines would have killed it. They were hoping to get it out then blink down, but lost the dropship.

@echofarm5237

Жыл бұрын

@@dorbie tnx

You didn't watch but, no, the roach warren wasn't there at the first scout ;)

Innovation use 3 rax for mass Marine

New player here…how did the opponent lose the colossus? It looked like it had full health then just blew up

@uThermal

Жыл бұрын

With comments like this please leave like a timestamp so I could check :P

@jbram63

Жыл бұрын

34:15

@uThermal

Жыл бұрын

@@jbram63 He picked it up in the warp prism so it dissapeared ^^ (and then the warp prism died)

Could be a timing

Yeah marines are definetely Imba. Or do I suck? Nah, Marines are OP. There's no way. That first Zerg guy, he did everything right, and despite that he aint never had a chance. Not a single mistake by him, and yet he never stood a chance.

@henningbreede6428

Жыл бұрын

I hope you're joking.

I want to see millions of marines die against a lategame army but still win. that would be epic!