I DISC A FIELD USING YOUTUBE TIPS! DID IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE?

Recently we made a discing video and our viewers had a LOT to say in the comments section. So we combed through them and are trying what we can to follow the advice given to see if we get better results.
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  • @dylanhawkins3844
    @dylanhawkins38442 жыл бұрын

    I think that the biggest issue is like you said - I work for a Deere dealer and most property owners want one piece to do all the jobs. As you stated in the first video, a rotary tiller is the best all around option for tractors this size. To accomplish the same quality of seed bed with manual tools, it would require a bottom plow, a disk harrow like is shown here and either a small perfecta or a drag harrow. This disk - like all disks for compact tractors- is a leveling harrow which in big ag is used as a secondary tillage tool. Consumers are trying to use them for primary, secondary and seedbed prep tillage and they aren’t designed for that. I can’t tell you the amount of tillers I’ve sold when I’ve priced people the 3 tools needed to achieve the same quality of tilled soil. 3 pieces vs 1 piece is a no brainer in my opinion. Keep up the good videos.

  • @wbsims2996

    @wbsims2996

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's what I tried to say in the first video comments. I would argue that the tiller is a good single tool for garden tilling and seed bed preparation, at some point in time you would be better served to add a field cultivator or substitute type plow after a few seasons of tilling. I lovey tiller and would say it is the best money I have spent on garden tillage but spent far less on the all purpose plow and the bush and bog harrow I have used for the 40 previous years. I also used a layoff plow with sweeps to make the planting furrows. Good video just not the right tool for the job by itself.

  • @kbailey43

    @kbailey43

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dylan has it right. I work for a Case IH dealer in the Midwest and I've been through the Case IH tillage school. In "Big Ag" a disc is not designed to be a primary tillage tool. Case IH designs their discs to be run at shallow depths (1/4 the radius of the disc blade) and their main purpose is to horizontally mix soil, chop crop residue, and size clods. "Big Ag" discs are also designed to be used at specific field speeds ... generally in the 4.5 mph to 6.5 mph range. Too fast and you throw soil too far, too slow and you don't throw soil far enough. Of course most of these concepts go out the window when you start talking utility sized implements and how people want to use them.

  • @TheDuckofDoom.

    @TheDuckofDoom.

    5 күн бұрын

    You really can't get awy from a primary plow to break hard ground, whether it is a moldboard or chisel style. A rotory tiller may be acceptalbe as an all purpose tool for a small garden, but unbroken ground will beat them up.

  • @ncm55449
    @ncm554492 жыл бұрын

    Well.... there's never a shortage of critics on these things.......Really, you are just showing a multitude of possible scenarios with all kinds of attachments so people don't have to find out the hard way, buying the wrong tool for a job.... Thanks for doing it!!! Great job presenting good info!! There are more of us who appreciate it than there are those who don't... I'm sure of that!!

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, you get to see it used in all sorts of ways, that’s for sure! Thanks for watching!

  • @earlyriser8998

    @earlyriser8998

    2 жыл бұрын

    i agree completely...that is why I love this channel

  • @michaelburdosh6431

    @michaelburdosh6431

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your videos help save the average guy a lot of fuel, time and mistakes. I really appreciate your videos, keep them coming

  • @ncm55449

    @ncm55449

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BigDaddyAddyMS ...........Noted.............

  • @waldronnewell3689
    @waldronnewell36892 жыл бұрын

    Looking back at my youth on my father’s dairy farm the disk harrows we used were towed via drawbar. My father never had or used a 3 point hitch. Usually he would plow before discing. Our garden was another story though it was disced yearly without being plowed. The discs you’re using look to be too light IMHO. The set we had were heavy plus depending on the soil Dad would add weight in the weight pans.

  • @ProductiveRecreation

    @ProductiveRecreation

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes. I have my grandfathers tow-behind single row disc with weight pans. Plow then disc is what I’ve “heard” for virgin ground, just disc something that was previously broken up. I plowed virgin ground this year but will probably dress the surface with the tiller for a nice seedbed instead of the disc.

  • @eastkyboy5619
    @eastkyboy56192 жыл бұрын

    Love the honesty. Knowing your audience is key. You didn’t try to spin it as if everyone should run out and buy one just because you sell them. Keep it up 🇺🇸

  • @russellswenton5611
    @russellswenton56112 жыл бұрын

    I was taught to plow ,disc ,then harrow to get the field ready for planting ! This was before tillers were invented ! But loved your video, showing all the issues, possibilities etc...

  • @briannelson4493
    @briannelson44932 жыл бұрын

    Courtney I changed methods this year, I first used a field cultivator or digger, then the tiller. I was impressed with the results. The digger loosened the soil and keeps the fibers in tacked the disc and tiller cut the fibers up allowing the soil to erode easier

  • @mercurymangarage6186
    @mercurymangarage61862 жыл бұрын

    Great job. You definitely sold me on the tiller. The cultivator works best on soil that’s already worked over as you showed at the end. Love these experimental videos. Keep them coming.

  • @wornslapout
    @wornslapout2 жыл бұрын

    New to farming. I bought a JD 4044M and was told to also buy a disc harrow which I did. I was given basic instructions when delivery was made. I have gone through every experience you did in this video. Sometimes dirt piles up as seen here but overall it does work. The biggest issue I have is where to set the harrows, what angle is best. My harrows are already very heavy, I can bury them if I want. I am learning. My farm is small at 36 acres. Love your channel.

  • @melissatuason2395
    @melissatuason23952 жыл бұрын

    Courtney ... I love the RT207 you sold me, that does more work and much more versatility than any tool I have. I use it to loosen up hard dirt most of the time or ground prep when I have to put in a clean driveway. Excellent tool for any clean dirt work.

  • @tommcmillan3143
    @tommcmillan31432 жыл бұрын

    Court very interesting. I'm not an expert at all... but watching my Uncle with his 8N in the 70s. The disc was really just one tool of 3 that he had to use to prepare the ground. First was the 2 bottom plow, followed by the similar size disc you have and then the harrow was the third component. His ground looked great after that process. I inherited the tractor and those implements, I am looking forward to see if I can repeat those results just for the fun of it. Through all of this you will become an expert, don't give up the fight! Thanks!

  • @Matt-kf4bw
    @Matt-kf4bw2 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the view you took with this video. Just giving everyone good information. Yes, a tiller seems to do a nice job make the dirt very fine, but I continue to think about a disc such as you were using and I am glad to seem the comparisons. The aggresive angle you started out with on the back seemed to break up the soil. Like another gentleman said using a mold board plow would probably make it a little easier. It appeared that once you had it broken up initially l, then putting the disc more level did a better job on the second/third time through to “till” it up. Nice job. Thank you for the video!!!!

  • @chadjurgensen73
    @chadjurgensen732 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the follow-up video! I found it very entertaining...love the commentary about the viewers giving advice. Here's my thoughts on the discs....don't waste your time. Tiller seems to be the best option for those in the compact / sub-compact market.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    100% agreed!

  • @throngcleaver
    @throngcleaver2 жыл бұрын

    Just watching this video, justified my decision to order a tiller for my tractor yesterday. Not a lot to think about with a tiller. Great video though!

  • @MarkSmith-ze4gu
    @MarkSmith-ze4gu2 жыл бұрын

    Proper disc harrow set up is you want the back set about an inch or two below the front set on level ground or pad. The spacing between the blades ,7 or 9 inches, will tell you if it is a digging disc or leveling disc, the way it was pulling that engine down, I would say that is a good disc for what it is made to do, good job

  • @stephbarbershop2518
    @stephbarbershop25182 жыл бұрын

    Farmers near me "turn the field over" with a mould board bottom plow in April. Then they use the Disc to break it up around the first week of May.

  • @clinteast7476

    @clinteast7476

    2 жыл бұрын

    what state? thats how we allways done it

  • @wolfpack4128

    @wolfpack4128

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's too bad. Hopefully they'll switch over to no till. It was a hard sell around here in NW PA but quite a few are using no till principles now. Even a fella in his 70s finally made the switch. After a couple years the farmers are convinced and can't believe how much better their soil stays.

  • @harleythrelkeld7587

    @harleythrelkeld7587

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@wolfpack4128 some soil types require tillage to be able to plant the next season but yes there are a good bit of areas that benefit from no till

  • @stephbarbershop2518

    @stephbarbershop2518

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@clinteast7476 SW PA They have been planting corn and wheat this week.

  • @earlyriser8998
    @earlyriser89982 жыл бұрын

    Courtney, I agree with the 'ouch' comments. That was my biggest surprise with my big tractor that it rode like a brick and I felt every hole. And getting enough weight on my 3 pt tools is an issue. We have an old disc here on the farm and it is a drawbar style with 4 concrete blocks that must add 200 lbs to the discs. And it is smaller than yours by at least 50%. Given the farming they used to do on this property I am sure it was adequate for that service.

  • @brettkuykendall2485
    @brettkuykendall24852 жыл бұрын

    I personally like the disc harrow. My complaint is that the dirt comes up in large chunks when you use it in clay soil. However, it gets down deeper than a tiller, which allows for deeper root growth in the hard, compact clay soil. Then I finish with a tiller to really break up the top 3-4 inches for planting.

  • @kylerayk
    @kylerayk2 жыл бұрын

    Great video! A fun comparison would be a pull-type 8' disc versus a 6' or 7' 3PH mounted unit.

  • @trainstractorscarsandtruck7362
    @trainstractorscarsandtruck73622 жыл бұрын

    I would do the first couple passes with just the back row at about 3 miles per hour. Using just the back row you are pushing all the grass clumps into the middle and on the 3rd or 4th pass they are cloging the attachment. After 2 passes with rear row I would go both rows of harrows to finish it up. Front row throws to the outside.

  • @marvinbrickhouse9122
    @marvinbrickhouse91222 жыл бұрын

    We farmed with a two row disc pulled by a 40 hp tractor when I was younger. We set the disk to pull close to level with the front gang set aggressive for cutting and the rear gang set less aggressive to level the ground. The front gang rolls the ground up and the second gang should cut the rolled land into smaller pieces by cutting at a different angle. The trick is to set the disk so the land is leveled after both gangs have done their job. If the angle of the gangs are not set correctly you will have a hill or a valley left in the bed behind your disk. To get a properly tilled bed it generally took two or three passes depending on the soil. Moisture and soil type affect this greatly. Turning with the disk down is hard on bearings. If you go to fast you will notice the disk begins to bob up and down making for a rough bed also. I prefer a tiller for small row length but a disk works better for larger blocks because you can carry a higher ground speed. I also like it better in ground that has rocks or roots because the rotor tiller jumps bad when it hits hidden objects and in my opinion it’s two slow on larger blocks. Both have a purpose. I like to use both if I was in new ground and I just wanted to sow a cover crop I would start with a disk if it was in short rows and wanted it plowed very fine for gardening I would use a tiller to me the set of the gang is more important than weight.

  • @bishopspyroworld8921
    @bishopspyroworld89212 жыл бұрын

    On worked up land my disk harrow works great. On soil with sod, it takes several passes.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Definitely, several or more, ha!

  • @bishopspyroworld8921

    @bishopspyroworld8921

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GoodWorksTractors for sure lol. On my garden i used mine doing 6 passes and then ran my pulverizer. Worked great.

  • @2fast65
    @2fast652 жыл бұрын

    You do a great job with the information you give sure there is a better way to do the job but the key is to do it with the equipment you have and have fun with it most of us tractor owners look for a good reason to play with the tractor its not about high production have a great day be safe.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate it!

  • @randallquiring9525
    @randallquiring95252 жыл бұрын

    There! You finally figured it out. The last clip showed what a disc is for!! As a former farmer, a disc is definitly not a sod buster. It is meant for a secondary tillage tool, or a primary one in an already worked plot (like next year). Keep trying and learning🙂

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha, it's not me that needs to figure it out. It's all of the customers who want to use it for their only tillage tool. That's who I'm making the videos for :)

  • @chadbinette3201
    @chadbinette3201 Жыл бұрын

    My grandfather used to have a big old cast iron radiator chained to the top of his disc, pulling it with his old Farmall when I was a kid . Then he eventually upgraded the tractors and went from square bales to round bales which was the best change to me haha. He had about 75-100 cows and 100 pigs till he was 80 so he was an experienced farmer.

  • @joduval
    @joduval2 жыл бұрын

    I think this is the first disc video I’ve seen on KZread! Thanks

  • @SGT1911
    @SGT19112 жыл бұрын

    I have a gun Chanel. One would never know there were so many special operators. I call them "Recliner Rangers" thanks for your videos. I watch all the time

  • @lawsonlawnandfarm8073
    @lawsonlawnandfarm80732 жыл бұрын

    Most applications that I’d use a disc for would be after the land was broke with a mold board plow. I’ve had results from disc that look just as good as a tiller. Don’t get me wrong I like a tiller better but even with a tiller I use something to bust the ground up before hand

  • @rickbarclay7892

    @rickbarclay7892

    2 жыл бұрын

    Plow first; then disc.

  • @phild9813
    @phild98132 жыл бұрын

    I recall having to rig up concrete blocks on our disc growing up to get any kind of function out of it. Watching the video, I was waffling between laughing and grimacing. I’d buy a tiller if I needed something like that for sure.

  • @michiganhay7844
    @michiganhay78442 жыл бұрын

    You’re right the ground here got super hard like concrete my 8000 pound disc wouldn’t even barely go in the ground I had ground so hard I literally had to wait for the last rain to come to soften the soil up so that I could disc properly. They cut the best when they’re evenly balanced between front and back it is called tuning the disc we have to do it on our big wing desk

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Crazy how quick it changes!

  • @caryholt54
    @caryholt542 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed the amusing and entertaining video. A disc used alone will never create the same seed bed as a tiller after one or two passes but they both do still have their time and place when they would be best suited. If I was planning to work that whole field than I would lean towards using that little disc. For the smaller areas you have showed than I would probably use the tiller. But often you do end up making do with whatever you have. Personal opinion is that the disc would be best if kept level and in the 4-5 mph range. When doing a larger area you can alter your direction for both ride quality and results. For each additional pass you would then probably want to adjust the disc aggressiveness and speed based on conditions.

  • @bradygourgues381
    @bradygourgues3812 жыл бұрын

    We have a m5-111 kubota with a 13 foot pull behind set of choppers and we have slight back angle and weight is everything for cutting into the ground. I also work part time on a farm where my main job is chopping and running a box blade and the same applies for the 27 foot disc we have on the farm.

  • @redclover51
    @redclover512 жыл бұрын

    A disk is also a compaction tool when used multiple passes on the same path. It creates a plow sole layer at operating depth which becomes shallower the more passes made. Multiple function tool for anyone.

  • @bernhardtschweizer9479
    @bernhardtschweizer94792 жыл бұрын

    Out here in the west, disc behind a sub/compact tractor for a fire break is a viable option. Faster than tilling(and less erosion come rainy season because the ground/weeds aren't as finely chopped up), and more effective as a fire break vs just mowing. Also discing for a couple of passes to properly uproot the weeds, letting it dry out, and then tilling will probably result in better weed control than a till, dry, till scheme. Just throwing out a different perspective, and maybe some food for thought.

  • @georgechambers8301
    @georgechambers83012 жыл бұрын

    Great vid thanks for the info

  • @rcclassiccrawlers4368
    @rcclassiccrawlers43682 жыл бұрын

    I’m not telling you it’s wrong or it’s right. I’m telling you the way I was taught. To break up new ground use an actual plow with mold boards. I used a seven bottom plow. Then go back over it with a disc and a drag. May need duallys on your tractor to pull the plow but you do have four wheel drive so it may not be a problem.

  • @szki272
    @szki2722 жыл бұрын

    It has been a few years now. But I recall we Disked a field one or two times. Let it set for a while which helped the grass to die off some. Then we plowed. disked two more times then spring toothed and rolled. Somewhere in there we sometimes subsoiled.

  • @bcompton53
    @bcompton537 ай бұрын

    I have both a disk and a tiller. Tiller is great where there aren't rocks. BUT, I have some really big boulders under some of my ground. So in those cases, I like the disk.

  • @garryholyoak9960
    @garryholyoak99602 жыл бұрын

    I would like to see you do this on the same plot using an offset disc pulled at 5-7mph

  • @JCWren
    @JCWren2 жыл бұрын

    Could it be the disc angle is too aggressive for the higher speeds? Thinking about how the dirt throws off the discs and how they dig in, I can visualize how it would be a problem. Maybe even set the rear discs to one less aggressive step than the front discs?

  • @Lackieestatesfarm
    @Lackieestatesfarm2 жыл бұрын

    I hobby farm about 5 acres. The only time that a disc is used is to cut up sod after using my 2 furrow plow, before I use my spring tooth harrow to prep the seed bed. I have on occasion seen some local farmers do a light pass with a disc on untilled ground to prep the ground before some overseeding in pasture ground.

  • @jadesumsion
    @jadesumsion2 жыл бұрын

    I bought a disc instead of a tiller. Price was the reason and it was a used disc. Paid $900. It does ok. After seeing your tilling video I’m wishing I had went that route. I do only have a 25 horse tractor. L2501. So I can’t go fast at all. In fact I’m in low and 4 wheel drive with the diff locked sometimes. In wet soil it clumps on the disc and I have to get a bar to free the disc. Thanks for the videos. Let’s do it again with a little tractor. One tool. Funny video.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff Jade, I’ve got a small disc out there for the 1025r!

  • @n2trkys18
    @n2trkys1810 ай бұрын

    If I were going to disc that, I would spray and burn it off before hand. However, I’ve stopped discing all together. I plant my fall plots(broadcast/top sow) in mid to late September. I plant then bushhog over it. I’ll hit it with some nitrogen the first of December for alittle boost just before our rut. I won’t touch it again until September. I find that the growth in the plots offers alot of natural browse, as well as, nesting and brooding rearing/fawning cover. Works very well for me and I don’t lose my moisture because I’ve disc my soil up.

  • @stephendevore1800
    @stephendevore18002 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. I will stick with my tiller.

  • @simpleman4196
    @simpleman41962 жыл бұрын

    The adjustments on the disc are meant to be used Make your first couple passes and the most aggressive setting and then adjust it to a less aggressive setting and run over the ground again. In the most aggressive setting it is designed to dig and pull up big chunks then when you readjust to a less aggressive setting you break up those bigger chunks into smaller pieces. However I still agree in a non-farming situation a tiller is better a tiller will work the ground deeper than a disc ever could and you have a nicer seed bed

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I tried that the first time around (a few weeks ago).

  • @5thGenNativeTexan
    @5thGenNativeTexan Жыл бұрын

    You'll never get a better, more even till than with flat and level. This is why so many of us wind up strapping on additional weight, even if the disc wasn't designed for it. I've used old railroad ties, racks of cinder blocks, etc.

  • @danielsundberg1977
    @danielsundberg19772 жыл бұрын

    Do u have sandy loam soils to disc in?

  • @stephanking8431
    @stephanking84312 жыл бұрын

    I think this is awesome, get out and have a go! I also think the next video should be with a Dirt Dog Rep showing you how the tool should be used. Also, do you have access to a power harrow?

  • @roberthughes8992
    @roberthughes89922 жыл бұрын

    I see your concerned about the price of equipment and that’s true but a used 2 or 3 bottom 14” moldboard plow is usually less than $400. A moldboard plow is almost mandatory to work sod ground unless you have an extremely heavy offset bog

  • @NSNorfolk
    @NSNorfolk2 жыл бұрын

    I put a couple-three #80 bags of concrete on the disc to make it dig in, when necessary.

  • @telawrence3882
    @telawrence38822 жыл бұрын

    Dairy farmer, cash cropper and equipment dealer writing. You have what is called a tandem disc or finishing disc, despite the notched blades it is not meant for breaking sod. Yes, when conditions are just right you may have limited success, but odds are you are compacting the soil severely with the amount of passes it takes. The soul on too may seem fluffy, but a plow pan has likely developed from the shearing effect of the disc. Finishing disc are meant to be run level front to back. An off-set disc can be used to break sod, if conditions permit. The ground is wet enough but not too wet. An off set disc has one gang in front and one in back at opposite angles to one another. Again an off set disc can cause compaction and a plow pan. Sod if alive is best plowed with a mouldboard plow. If it’s sprayed off, a chisel plow is a viable option. Vertical tillage tools are not meant to work sod. The best options for the inexperienced are as you’ve concluded a rototiller. Or there are some no-til food plot seeders available that won’t require working the soil. That disc is meant for finishing behind a plow.

  • @jamesgross4833
    @jamesgross4833 Жыл бұрын

    Late to the party here. Good video. I guess if I had dirt like yours, I could see skipping the plow/disc and opting for a tiller. Standing offer: you drive one of those McNasty new Rhino tillers up to me, and if it handles my hill & all the rocks that come with it, I’ll buy it on the spot.

  • @tombartlett7448
    @tombartlett74482 жыл бұрын

    Disc sod is ruff. It work much better the next year after the ground has been worked in recent years. My very old disc had trays for cement blocks.

  • @Vigo327
    @Vigo3272 жыл бұрын

    So i've never used a disc, but have considered getting an older one to mess with. I'd say this is a highly informative video for someone in my position! I think the primary takeaway is if you don't have a power top link, prepare to suffer! After that, next question might be can your tractor even pick up a disc that's heavy enough to break into your ground? Seems like if you pull too light of a disc on unbroken ground you will accomplish next to nothing, requiring another even slower-functioning implement to 'prep' that land for discing. Not interested.. I think what you maybe could have done in the beginning of this video (again, having never used a disc) is set one row closer to straight when you are using just one row to 'break' the ground on initial pass. I think the steep angle of the discs is counterproductive when you are trying to cut into the ground. So tilt it, put all the weight on one row, AND make that row close to straight? Then on followup passes more angle to turn/churn the ground. Just a thought. I'm right there with you on lack of disc experience so take it for what it's worth!!

  • @noname-xu7fi
    @noname-xu7fi Жыл бұрын

    I'm in the middle of this I use a rotator in my garden. Plow and disc the small felds I hobby farm there to big for the tiller but a good size for the 8n equipment that I have.

  • @williamlaird2136
    @williamlaird21362 жыл бұрын

    Watching you in the higher gears, 4th - 5th, hurt my back. Couldn't imagine very much seat time at those speeds. I appreciate you taking the time to placate all of the keyboard tractor experts even at the expense of your body and potential damage to the machinery. Most of us "non-farmers" with smaller tractors are not making our living sitting in a tractor seat 10 - 14 or more hours a day. We need our toys to help us with our small vegetable garden, food plot or making a small fire break. We are not farming 20,000 acres of soybeans. I know you like to give the people on the other side of the internet some credence but you will NEVER make everyone happy. Thank you for the videos!

  • @outlander330cc
    @outlander330cc2 жыл бұрын

    The problem is the live sod. Discs are useless in sod. Farmers always either plow or spray before discing which kills all of the grass and weeds so the disc can do a good job. Discs just can't break up grass well.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    There’s areas I disced that look very good, others that don’t. So it handled some sod spots really well.

  • @keithdescoteaux5640

    @keithdescoteaux5640

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GoodWorksTractors If you had plowed it first then one pass with the disk is all it takes

  • @stephenphilbrook6239
    @stephenphilbrook62392 жыл бұрын

    Everyone is an expert on the internet. I've learned alot from your videos and they're entertaining. I don't know why on youtube if people don't like a video they can't just move on.

  • @tubbycreekfarm
    @tubbycreekfarm2 жыл бұрын

    Howdy, wow that was brutal to watch. I'm no expert and only have 6 years tractoring experience but I only use a disc and chisel plow for cultivating. We grow vegetables on about 7 acres and do grow plots. I'm running a 50HP tractor pulling a 6 foot 20 inch, 20 disc cultivator. If you don't want that Bad Boy disc i'll take it. Anyways, lack of weight is not your issue. Technique is the issue. the dish and angle of the disk "pulls" it into the soil. I was told by an old timer the disc is a rotating plow. always disk back and forth and the second pass needs to just off center from the first pass. Balance, gotta keep it level and have patience. In hard ground it might take some extra passes but the nice thing about the disc is it doesn't pulverize your soil. Which I believe is better for the soil especially in our case of growing two to three crops a year on the same plot. Like your videos but this one was hard to watch, hehe.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    I probably tried 15-20 combinations of angles, speed, etc. There is no improving the results. I may not be a farmer, but I’m also not an idiot, haha. I can figure out how to make something work if there is a way. For the record, I’ve used a disc many times over the years and it’s the same thing every time. Thanks for watching!

  • @Rumblestrip
    @Rumblestrip2 жыл бұрын

    Really wish there was a viable tiller thatd work on my n series ford lol. Sadly, unless i swap the 4 cylinder for a 6 cylinder flathead, there just isnt

  • @syodom623
    @syodom6232 жыл бұрын

    What about trying a field cultivator? Haven't seen that one on the channel yet.

  • @thomasblincoe8325
    @thomasblincoe83252 жыл бұрын

    Plowing then discing is old school farming. I have several “big” full time farmers around me and 95% do no till planting. The thinking is to keep the nutrients in the ground and not exposing them to the sun and weather. Thus avoiding the sand bowl effects of days gone by. No-till planting and crop rotation is the way farmers around me farm now. Oh and arm chair quarterbacks are normally the biggest complainer’s.

  • @wolfpack4128

    @wolfpack4128

    2 жыл бұрын

    I bought a no till for my food plots. Planted brassicas then winter rye. Both did amazingly just drilling seed after spraying twice. The local farmer that plants corn for me uses a drill now too. He wasn't sure the rocky ground would do much because it never produced well back when he used to leave the soil exposed from October to May. There was more than the deer could eat on 5 acres and he harvested the rest in April. No till is much less work but so much better for the soil.

  • @spyder2782
    @spyder27822 жыл бұрын

    Nice revisit

  • @robertkiell
    @robertkiell2 жыл бұрын

    for me.. farmer here..... i use subsoil tool first then use disk for level ground for seeding.

  • @josephcason5844
    @josephcason5844 Жыл бұрын

    You get your first pass done then overlap a half . This will put the disk half in first pass and half new and will make this easier . Then cross pass and also do diagonal passes. The more you work it the better it will get

  • @billypowell1332
    @billypowell1332 Жыл бұрын

    I would like to see a rerun of the disc but add weight evenly. I use old railroad track welded to disc frame. I normally disc twice sometimes three time but I have Sandy loom soil.

  • @chrismims7949
    @chrismims79497 ай бұрын

    I like a manual center link the hydraulic sometimes leaks down

  • @richardpoe2461
    @richardpoe24612 жыл бұрын

    Are you using your draft control? To put down pressure on the disc?

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes sir, draft control was used as well. The disc is really just too light for anything besides secondary tillage. It will get the job done if your only tillage tool, but will just take many passes. Especially with virgin ground.

  • @josephwelhouse480
    @josephwelhouse4802 жыл бұрын

    Spray then disc your fertilizer and corn in, cultapac. Front tillers jump over rocks, reversetine tillers pull rocks to surface, but leave landscapers seed bed. They all work depends on your time and planing. P/S the disc or tiller is not going to get rid of those corn stalks in the spring, another piece of equipment or 2 is needed. You are farming now.

  • @bradyoas8746
    @bradyoas87462 жыл бұрын

    Always level disc if not just making ridges and furrows. Disc sod maybe twice leave sit for a week so sod can die then disc again . Love my tiller quick results except with rocky ground i use a disc

  • @AdamTDelisle
    @AdamTDelisle2 жыл бұрын

    What happened to that old kubota you bought?

  • @brianphilbrook5262
    @brianphilbrook52622 жыл бұрын

    I am no professional myself in my experience a disc is best used after a plow or used where there isn’t any sod. However you do it though the important thing above anything is you get seat time.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Probably so, but I don’t want two tools! That gets expensive for hobby guys like most of us watching 😂

  • @the_great_lord_ilpalazzo
    @the_great_lord_ilpalazzo2 жыл бұрын

    I don't know, I'm just thinking. Maybe, for cutting sod as you are in the video, you could try doing the first couple of passes in the least aggressive setting. My thinking is, since there are multiple settings on the disc itself and you are starting with un-worked ground, maybe taking progressively more aggressive cuts would do a better job. I'm guessing that it would cut the sod into smaller bites giving a better final result. It's probably not needed on soil that is worked every year, but as you are "starting fresh" then maybe. Again, i don't know for sure, I'm just throwing an idea out there.

  • @cameronshapley7454
    @cameronshapley74542 жыл бұрын

    From my years of experience a pull behind is always better (and yes you can get them small not everyone is 20 foot wide). In my area we would disc inbetween the trees using pull behinds and I have never had a issue with clogs even in a 1 foot cover crop or weeds. I’ve never been a fan of tandem discs offsets are better for actually cutting. My advice would be to extend your top link to where the back is hanging down but not to much for greater down pressure, leave front aggressive or medium, set back to medium or light for a better finish and coverage, and pull a pipe with coils, ring roller, basket, something to help break up the clods. We went away from disk and went to heavy tillers with smooth rollers in my area but speed disks with smooth rollers are becoming popular because we have found that the tiller compact the dirt to much over time while a disk won’t. And don’t go fast it’s not a speed disc don’t listen to people saying your not going fast enough, 3.5 is enough and you’ll find a setting that works good at that speed.

  • @wayneeden98
    @wayneeden984 ай бұрын

    I had a really good description on what this guy was doing and KZread apparently didn't leave it in

  • @chrisluttor2275
    @chrisluttor22752 жыл бұрын

    Take the loader of the tractor before you go disking. It will lower the centre of gravity of the tractor which would make the disking more efficient: not perfect, just more efficient.

  • @PerkinsFarm
    @PerkinsFarm2 жыл бұрын

    I like that you tried different scenarios. From my experience using a 3pt disc I never used it on new ground. I would always use a turning plow first on the ground and then use the disc to break up the furrows. I would start slow and gradually increase the speed, crisscrossing the plot until I got the desired consistency of the soil. This usually entailed 2 or three passes with the disc. I have also used the tiller on the plowed ground. This only took one pass, but was extremely slow as compared to using the disc. Anyway, just wanted to give you my thoughts. Thanks for the informative videos. Keep up the great content.

  • @ryany4326
    @ryany4326 Жыл бұрын

    The disk is not made for primary tillage. That being said if you can only afford 1 tool it’s the one to have. If your willing to make several passes, adjust the gang aggressiveness and your patient it does an awesome job.

  • @jamesvail9329
    @jamesvail93292 жыл бұрын

    The greater the angle the grater the cut and possible depth will increase. the straight is for leaving once cut depth.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed and that’s what I was doing. Thanks for watching!

  • @km4fsi827
    @km4fsi827 Жыл бұрын

    Turning plow, then disc level in soft ground or just a "little tail down" in hard ground. the disc goes along with a plow. I plow fields for crops not food plots. had a tiller and there just entirely too slow for big fields. but i see were for food plots and small gardens it would be better.

  • @kennethpair6416
    @kennethpair641610 ай бұрын

    We have the same problem at our hunting lease to resolve the issue we make a pass then half cut every remaining cut this process break the ground same depot all across the cut

  • @henrymorgan3982
    @henrymorgan39822 жыл бұрын

    I see it as if you have to go over and over, it doesn't make sense to have. I want one pass and done if there is such a thing. Great experiment.

  • @jamesvail9329
    @jamesvail93292 жыл бұрын

    Lapping over 1/2 way helps cut, called double cutting.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I did that later in the video.

  • @kurtisb100
    @kurtisb1002 жыл бұрын

    I’m really not sure how all these farming legends about running a disc super fast or tilted forward or backwards come about. Obviously if you go faster you cover more ground, but it sure won’t make up the time it takes to replace bearings and broken parts. Which you’ll do much more often ping ponging across the field in your seat. As far as dragging the disc tilted really far up or down, that doesn’t even make sense. Pull it flat like the manufacturer designed it to be, and it will cut better and last longer. Especially last longer.

  • @EOTG_AK
    @EOTG_AK2 жыл бұрын

    Cunningham's Law states "the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer."

  • @bigchew3149
    @bigchew31492 жыл бұрын

    looks to way to light to do much but a couple of big Rail road ties bolted together with a about 2-3 peaces of 1/4in steal bars /angle iron being pulld behind it would help a lot i would about bet !..we always called it a drag an almost always drug one behind ours growing up ! an it helps a lot to bust up klots to ! !looks like it could use a good deep turning plough first the harrow the crap out of it after 2-3 days! just a thought/idea ...but i dono what your trying to get done i just know what it looks like on yt !

  • @Trial-N-ErrorFarms-jk9iz
    @Trial-N-ErrorFarms-jk9izАй бұрын

    Disclaimer: I don't know diddly squat. But it looks to me like the aggressive angle is great when starting out, but after the land is broke, the rear gang should have a lesser angle to help smooth everything.

  • @staceygandy2009
    @staceygandy20092 жыл бұрын

    First thing is I have a 60hp Kubota tractor and I love it but here in south Carolina you don't see Kubota tractors plowing in fields. John Deere,Case,some new Hollands. I'm not a farmer. I just use mine for loader work and land plane. If I were like you with abundant attachments on a new ground I would use a what ii call a row buster plow. Not sure proper name but kinda like the plow the forestry guys pull behind the dozers to cut fire breaks. Or a ripper with two or three rippers. Easier to bust new ground up first and then use the discs. if I purchased a decent discs I'd like to be able to add weight of some sort.

  • @ronevans852
    @ronevans8522 жыл бұрын

    I’m just compact tractor owner with 50 H/P I only have 22A farm and garden approximately 1/2 A.

  • @markellyfarm
    @markellyfarm2 жыл бұрын

    I think you pay to much attention to the keyboard warriors. Discs are not ideal on grass but will get the job done with enough passes. The disc clearly worked better flat as its designed to do. In bare soil the gangs are designed to counteract each other so your ground stays even. If you can't afford a lot of tools, you have to use what you got. Keep up the good work brother, and don't pay no nevermind to the haters! Us little guys appreciate you!

  • @jimmeyer777
    @jimmeyer7772 жыл бұрын

    What is the HP of that tractor? You can't read the model number with the front loader on the tractor.

  • @Classifiedreality
    @Classifiedreality2 жыл бұрын

    Job well done sir....this vid is why I enjoy and learn from this channel..butt in the seat..boots on the ground...real world....keep on keeping on🚜👨‍🌾🚜👨‍🌾👍👍

  • @Bezhig
    @Bezhig2 жыл бұрын

    If you want just one tool tillage for food plot, hobby farm, small acreage go with a rotadairon. Note, it will cost you.

  • @wayneeden98
    @wayneeden984 ай бұрын

    A rotodarian tiller will some how prossess by tilling in reverse

  • @wayneeden98
    @wayneeden984 ай бұрын

    1,2 bottom plow, 2 disc ,3 rotodarian tiller

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    4 ай бұрын

    Wow, I guess you have no budget.

  • @toddtwitchell246
    @toddtwitchell2462 жыл бұрын

    I preferred a plow and then use my tiller

  • @JerrelBaker-vo8xv
    @JerrelBaker-vo8xv7 ай бұрын

    It will surprise you how much a rail road tie weigh when tie on disk house

  • @idahopotato5837
    @idahopotato5837 Жыл бұрын

    Tillers pound and compact the soil under the tilling. I would think the disc doesn't. Time consuming but a better finish product with multiple passes with the disc.

  • @wbsims2996
    @wbsims29962 жыл бұрын

    Your front gang turns dirt to the outside the rear turns it back to the inside to produce a smoother even surface. This harrow is not for cutting it is for finishing the seeded after the field has been plowed or turned preferably in the fall allowing the organic matter to break down. The harrow is to incorporate the plowed dirt and organic matter to produce a soil more conducive to retaining moisture and earthworms etc. It also is good for incorporating soul ammendments such as composted manure and other vegetation for a healthier better producing field. Not designed to be a do it all implement bit part of a system.

  • @kalumbabwale3729
    @kalumbabwale372911 ай бұрын

    I just want that Hydraulic top link...

  • @garyhuhtala7555
    @garyhuhtala75552 жыл бұрын

    Just do one pass and wait a week to 10 days to let grass die and then work it again . It will plug up because the grass is dead. This is just a thought. Good luck and have a good day.