You know Diamond is a hellscape when the Hog player is the chill tank...

@ncrest4365

Жыл бұрын

most hog players I saw are pretty chill lol,, at the same time, a lot are also playing for themselves rather than actively working as a team. Maybe that's why they usually chill. It's the idgaf attitude.

@dr.bandito60

Жыл бұрын

Around 2800 on console, my experience with Hog players is that they are typically level-headed and realistic. They are on Hog because it’s a good way to carry and not die. They play carefully and conservatively. They always know where their teammates are positioned and are willing to play together but also willing to go it alone if necessary and go for risky picks. And they’re at a point in their overwatch careers where they’ve accepted that they have to do the work themselves, lol. I like them a lot. If you notice a good Hog on your team, just pay attention to their plays and do your best to follow up and support them. They’ll play more aggressively if they notice you have their back. Probably more of a plat-diamond thing. This playstyle is team aware and fairly coordinated but also used to noncooperation. A little bit lone-wolf.

@ikaros6633

Жыл бұрын

True

The duality of tank players is actually insane

I've seen this EXACT GAME so many times lmao - One tank malding at the team, usually a ball or a zarya - The other tank not being nearly as toxic - Ana player with useful comms and actually playing the game - Dps and mercy just vibing (and carrying)

@Real_MisterSir

Жыл бұрын

duuuude for real Zarya players malding is so fucking funny XD

@SunderMun

Жыл бұрын

tbf the Hog did a lot of work too; entire team carried that one guy

@Forgenshoot

Жыл бұрын

Especially true with the ball just refusing to comprehend that he, the literal sphere of boops, could potentially engage in a position where his team can follow up on his boop+slams. Seriously, a boop+slam+dynamite+hook combo can wipe a team.

@nursestan7788

Жыл бұрын

@@Real_MisterSir Nah it’s always the 76 and the mercy/Moira who mald. Zarya players have cool heads due to having to deal with such BS

@queenpen1398

Жыл бұрын

I never had a game where the dps are chilled. They will be the first to start swear and using slur then one of the tank will join in

As a diamond tank now, nothing was more toxic than gold players who think they should be gm. Honestly this diamond was annoying, but if you ever want to find a real shit show, that's where it is. You'll never hear more toxicity than if you play ball, widow, lucio, zen, or shieldless. Unless you hold them to first or get 20 plus solo kills on the first point, you might as well leave voice immediately.

@ruisurengai

Жыл бұрын

Zen and Lucio picks are cap. Once you get in Masters or higher Zen is common as shit. Lucio is also super powerful for Dive/Rush

@munge3563

Жыл бұрын

God don't even get me started on playing Zen in Gold. You'll even get picked on by the other supports, even if you're putting in the same amount of work they are. Oh, and if one of your tanks happens to be a Hog? Just mute everything, because no matter if they're right or not, they'll always flame you in chat. Gold Hogs are OBNOXIOUS.

@frankthetank8692

Жыл бұрын

@@munge3563 facts gold hog players blame everyone but themselves

@andre-rg9rp

Жыл бұрын

true

@Oldladywithastick

Жыл бұрын

@@ruisurengai Can you read his comment again?

I was having a field day in chat every time that ball/orisa player said anything.

One thing I learned is when someone is toxic like this it is best to just not engage with them, they obviously want to start something and just because they aren't playing good they want to act like it's their team's fault so they don't feel so bad about it. Just completely ignoring them won't necessarily make them less toxic but it means you won't have to deal with playing the game alongside being in an argument in voice chat/text chat

@thecheshirequinn3510

Жыл бұрын

when that mute button starts looking extra cute 😩

The moment I realized "I am the common denominator" I climbed put of Gold to Masters. Within a single season

@waitwhat238

Жыл бұрын

Course, this was the Season of GOATs, and I was a really Good Rein player.

@Sticky056

Жыл бұрын

@@waitwhat238 gigachad

@alpha_tier

Жыл бұрын

@@Sticky056 "I am the problem" *solves the problem*

@XboxAffrayer

Жыл бұрын

That's an outstanding revelation... but honestly it's about 70/30 sometimes the team just isn't working. Some nights it's just rough.

@aidenmeislitzer7774

Жыл бұрын

Average based rein player

flats went off and the man has the audacity to say the team isnt getting picks when hes handing the other team the picks lmao

@Real_MisterSir

Жыл бұрын

it's the typical flamer syndrome. Tunnel visions only on what they see and want to do, has no regard for what goes on from everyone else's pov, desperately needs to find reason for why their own gameplay isn't working out and tends to throw that reason onto their fellow players for not telepathically understanding their plans. I recently had a game as Pharah, was playing vs double hitscan (u can imagine who was the first to receive blame XD). Regardless, I was up 5-0 against their Widowmaker and the Soldier's positioning was dogshit so I had no trouble avoiding him. Yet as soon as we lose 1st point our Zarya just goes off in chat and shouts at me that I should swap off Pharah because the enemy has a Widow and accuse me of being suppressed by the double hitscan duo. Meanwhile he himself fed his ass off on Zarya and got back from spawn 3 times while I was holding the frontline with our Rein and Mercy all on our own the entire time, I hadn't died a single time yet the Zarya was hellbent that the Widow was hard countering me XD Players are so fucking funny. Imagine how great this is, getting to play a competitive game and listen to comedy gold at the same time, what a deal!

Toxicity at this point of the game’s life is just really funny. Like, we’re a week away from the game literally being dead. The team’s just gonna laugh at you for pulling this shit and treat you like a clown. Recently had a game in plat where the enemy genji threw himself off the map for an entire round because he was complaining about Zen/Lucio heal comp. “Brainless plats” and “gg go next” 45 seconds into the game. Meanwhile they had a decent dive comp and probably could’ve won if the guy tried. Both teams flamed him enough for him to start trying second round. Then we flamed him harder because we realized he was actually dogwater. Like, 5v7 bad. Dashed into our entire team 4 separate times, whiffed more times with his ult than hit, was missing a stationary hog, and deflected like 25 bullets max the entire round. Proceed to his excuse being no Mercy pocket/nano and healers were still brainless for not picking Ana. We proceeded to flame him harder.

@paashaasXD

Жыл бұрын

I am going to report these toxic kids in OW2 for sure. I am honestly so done with bad players complaining in VC or chat lol, just shut the fuck up and get better

that's really mild actually. I got told to end myself several times in quick play yesterday. In different games by different people.

@jennymartin8448

Жыл бұрын

IN QUICKPLAY … makes me wonder why some people even choose to play the game if they can’t have fun casually

@JustShiiro

Жыл бұрын

@@jennymartin8448 exactly. Low elo comp is even worse thb.

@Real_MisterSir

Жыл бұрын

@@jennymartin8448 People be sweating more in QP than in Comp recently lol. And a lot more mic users too - altho often not for good reasons

@XboxAffrayer

Жыл бұрын

@@Real_MisterSir Bro. I've been saying this for years. There's a reason streamers and pros don't play QP games... hurts the tiny pride they have when the get rolled by three 2 stacks of 12yo kids that have been "homeschooled" for the last 2 years and just drank their first 20oz redbull and got into mom's Adderall... it's only worse in OW2... if I'm trying to chill it's GM lobbies in comp for sure

@j.w.213

Жыл бұрын

@@XboxAffrayer your text sounds more adhd than what you try to say E: Amd your streamer insult while watching a shit ton of videos from them… bet my arse you‘re a hardstuck gold

This kind of person is why I disable all voice and text chat nowadays, I can't keep playing for long because they irritate me too much otherwise.

@revenge3265

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, I just mute them after cussing them out.

@justfriccoff3363

Жыл бұрын

@@revenge3265 woe you're so cool

@decoy1312

Жыл бұрын

@@justfriccoff3363 a chad even

@jennymartin8448

Жыл бұрын

Can’t you just mute individual players ? Lol

@unrec0very

Жыл бұрын

if you let your teammates tilt you, then they’re just doing half the job of the enemy team for them, and it’s never the good players who whine and complain bc they understand that morale is half of winning your fights. if somebody shit talks you for making a minor mistake, their opinion is automatically invalid, simple as that

I like how 1. He doesn't give any callout until he's dead and 2. He has the voice u use when you're talking crap about people being annoying or afk

Ball is just chilling behind the support instead of making space

As a Ball main and as a feeder if a teamate says I'm going in too deep I listen

@nopenopenopepikachu5206

Жыл бұрын

Usually we ball mains are the ones who get bullied. No one really thinks ball mains are good

@BAIARJ

Жыл бұрын

@@nopenopenopepikachu5206 a lot of players just want to have a shield in front of them all The time

Ball Player being toxic Me a ball main: Dude what are you doing? We are the ones supposed to receive the toxicity not give it.

I just realized the Kiriko's Protection Suzu is going to be able to wake up friendly BOBs!!!

@jktuert8630

Жыл бұрын

Kiriko will add first cleanse in OW. It will be OP as fck anyway.

Damn your Mercy was amazing

@mamboonthetube7652

Жыл бұрын

For real. By the time they get to point B she’s consistently boosting flats. Battles the torb on attack, dodges the turret to get the res off. Huge mercy plays.

@idolhell1500

Жыл бұрын

@@mamboonthetube7652 common hatsune miku w

@Real_MisterSir

Жыл бұрын

@@idolhell1500 Anyone with Hatsune Miku name gets auto thumbs up

The exchange between the hog and ball kinda reminds of an exchange I had with a winston player after I suggested that he switch cause he was kinda getting rolled by the reaper tracer and he asked why I said reaper kinda counters you and he thought that I was joking and I had to explain that winstons hit box made it so that shotgun characters I.e. reaper had an easier time landing all their pellets on him. My man didn’t believe me and proceeded to get rolled every time he dived high ground on first point dorado then eventually switched lol

@KlayAli-

Жыл бұрын

It's best just to let people pick what they want and not suggest heros unless they ask.

@XboxAffrayer

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes it's hard to understand the fine line between the need to switch and the fact that most tanks share a common weakness like reaper, sombra or a good tracer. I mean even some of the supports like Zen and Ana can ruin a tanks day. Now playing ball and complaining about not getting picks is just silly, that's literally balls job is to jump low hp and separated supports

@Daeyae

Жыл бұрын

@@XboxAffrayer reaper counters dva less at least and she fills the same role as winston amd her ult doesn't just turn her into a giant xp piñata for reaper

@XboxAffrayer

Жыл бұрын

@@Daeyae For both dva and Winston you can do this magical thing. Just leave. Fly away, jump away, roll away. Just leave.

I love to audibly laugh at toxic people, it gets them really ruffled.

I was in a Plat support game yesterday and since my team didn't have any real counters to any ults like grav or visor I went zen for trans and my mercy got mad at me bc my ult can't counter an entire team focusing 1 person with ults. Craziest part was i had 9k heals(gold) 3rd point on Blizzard World and our hog had silver(according to him it was like 6k)

This is an actual Overwatch classic. 1 Player (eiter playing ball/doom/zarya/hog) starts the game/round of being rly toxic and when a dps or the other tank makes one mistake he mercilessly flames them. Then, when they carry the man goes radio silent. Like... BRUH Lets hope ow2 is better in that department, but I doubt it :/

okay that one tank aside, your mercy was nuts

I had this experience for one of my first 10 games of ow in 2021. I nanoed a Rein and instead of demolishing the enemy team with his shatter, he walked up to me and shook his head wasting the Nano. Then I got scolded by the rest of the team and told "always nano the dps". I dunno what sr I was at but damn.

@davidlaforge4811

Жыл бұрын

That rein was just outright throwing. I play platinum on god damn CONSOLE and even then it's not that absurd.

@lokii7602

Жыл бұрын

while that rein wasting nano is just stupid as shit, it is typically better to nano someone who can consistently get better value. Lots of the time, teams will just disengage from rein if he doesnt have speed boost as he doesnt have any reliable way close that space otherwise. Nano-ing rein is good if you have a decent lucio, or after he hits shatter/zarya gravs/mei freezes/etc. Basically anything that allows rein to actually get in and swing. If he cant swing or isnt in need of it to survive, its better off going to someone else.

I had one player being so toxic and shit talking all of us on his team because he thinks being in Diamond for the last 2 seasons means he's ascended to Godliness or something. Most of us had been sitting around Plat since S1 or 2 and this idiot's only recently climbed out of Silver/low Gold. Sometimes there's nothing you can do but mute, report, and move on. There's no helping some players.

@andre-rg9rp

Жыл бұрын

I got matched with a masters tank as high plat tank myself and the masters tank actually threw the match in a similar way to this guy in the video, this happened yesterday.

@agentmaryland1239

Жыл бұрын

@@andre-rg9rp Yikes, it's sad because a lot of people just don't really care anymore, I guess because they think it's the last season so Blizzard won't give a damn. But I mean, we've all been asked to merge our accounts to Overwatch 2, so our current ranks will likely mean *something* in OW2, right? No reason to get toxic and throw matches just because OW1 is getting shut down (honestly it's depressing, because in 2017 I often wondered what it was going to be like the day OW1 shut down since it was one of the first MP games I actually grew to like, the other being Halo. Now, here we are, days away and it's about to happen.) doesn't mean everything just stops mattering.

0v6 bongo galaxy brain

I started owning my flaws and trying to fix them as a diamond and broke into gm a few times as Lucio /bap

This is the first time I see you on Ash Flats (She’s my main and I love playing her) and DAMN I like your playstyle with her! I am going to copy a little bit of that for sure ;D It’s always very educational to watch you :3 thank you!

@Oldladywithastick

Жыл бұрын

If you want to copy a playstyle, don’t copy someone’s that diamond.

@decoy1312

Жыл бұрын

@@Oldladywithastick Flats got knowledge of a top 500 although tank

@Oldladywithastick

Жыл бұрын

@@decoy1312 I know and Hes a very good tank. Of course he converts some knowledge, but a t500 dps Main would still do a better teaching job

@leaw.436

Жыл бұрын

@@Oldladywithastick Sorry to correct you here :) But i did not say i wanna just copy his playstyle. I said i want to copy a little bit of it. Like taking some things he did, try them out for myself and maybe corporate them in my playstyle. I think thats totally fine. You can learn a little bit from any good player even if it would be someone not high ranked. English is not my native language but i hope i could clear it up a little bit :)

@Oldladywithastick

Жыл бұрын

@@leaw.436 Then have a nice day

I want to get better but I feel as though I've either stagnated on learning the game or have hit my ceiling

@jaredwike5548

Жыл бұрын

5v5 will be very different so you got that to improve on

@ruisurengai

Жыл бұрын

The ceiling is mental. You'll only go as high or as low as you let yourself get. Each rank shares a mindset, but mechanics or methods when solo should vary. Unless you're a dps/tank god don't try to carry every game, don't be a beta, but also be willing to give the spotlight to a teammate by supporting pushes or covering retreats etc.

@mikelcito8898

Жыл бұрын

I don't think you have reached that yet.But like other things in live the better you get the harder to improve it gets. I've been a diamond player for a whole year I made it to master like 3 days ago.

I play GM Tank and healer. But play diamond on dps. I will tell you right now. Diamond players are big babies. They make mistakes which is fine but when you call them out on it so they can learn, they get pissy and throw instantly. In all honesty even at higher ranks I make mistakes but even saying one word will trigger diamonds, it’s insane, can’t imagine lower Elos

It’s the most toxic tank, it’s full of people who think they deserve better but never accept when it’s their fault they lost.

the "omg...are you flirting?" right after was the best

As someone who started watching Flats in OW2, see his Ashe just scope shit is satisfying as hell 😂

Whenever someone is toxic in my game I just mute them and move on with my game

I wanna ask that ball if he is ok. He sounds like he isn't ok.

Plat to Diamond is usually the most toxic where Masters and Grandmasters have a decent bit of toxicity but not as much. Just people playing the game and wanting to win a little too much

Ik that the clip of Flats getting flustered at the end there is on his clips channel, but it's mighty convenient that the editors left that part out monkaHmm

Absolutely love the roasting of lower ranks it’s super funny

Ngl pretty tame by the standards of toxicity in silver/gold

Tbh I heard you saying your ash is cracked but now I see it's actually really good

This looks like every match I've ever played

I never knew that cart would destroy the bango because no one, and I mean no one puts it infront of the cart.

This is why I straight up refuse to join voice chat ever

I'm fine with wanting to win but look at yourself first if you keep dying. I feel like if most players just did that, ow quality would be so much better

GotDAYUM Flats popping off as the cow lady 🤠

Literally my every day experience on Overwatch 1 sadge But I’m the hog player😭

Had a game a few days before OW ended and the insta lock hog was mad at the DPS for double sniper+ mercy bap. They said the phrase "i was on point" and i saw 3 people leave chat immediately

i think my granny who died before ow came out could tell that he was feeding

Bro this nearly every ball player I've seen. I think they are npcs duplicating some where. Hopefully they patch them for ow2.

@TSGC16

Жыл бұрын

Ball mains are either the most chill or the most toxic people ever and theres no in between. On one hand when im playing Ana and my Ball always comes to stop by after an engagement for heals and thanks me, and on the other hand theres a ball that screams at me for not healing them across the map when hes deep into the enemy line.

@metal100k

Жыл бұрын

@@TSGC16 the worst is when they scream about damage numbers when they just roll through, slam, and run away. Most of the time never comboing with anyone and playing pretty much the most survivable hero in the game. They also typically never provide any protection because balls sole ability to protect his team is to force the enemy team to fight him but that doesn't always work out too well. Not all are toxic af of course but balls playstyle brings out the toxicity in some people.

It's weird I thought the ball's name would be Emongg.

Welcome to every game I play…

Anyone knows the song that starts around 6:05? Driving me crazy trying to remember

It's a dark place down here in diamond.

Oh yeah. Just here to play the game and have fun which means I have to disable voice chat.

Seems like there is one in every game these days.

@dragnoc

Жыл бұрын

I think someone is trying to run a scam on this channel.

As a Diamond player I can confirm that this is the most toxic rank I've played in

Dear Flat, if you really think this is toxic you never played in EU lol. This is straight up normal behavior here.

What a thumbnail

Can we take a moment to comment about how cracked flats is at ashe?

Ohhh man I can't wait for all the rage aimed at myself and fellow tank players in OW2... it's gonna be rough till some adjustments are made.

In my experience nothing is more toxic then 3000sr, it’s full of nothing but average players who think they’re the shit because they either just peaked at the first slightly above average rank or in general are salty about not being able to maintain diamond.

im always between plat and diamond and i can say they are the worst ranks when it comes to toxicity bc ppl are still pretty average at the game but they have an ego because theyre above gold so they never own their mistakes and blame everything on their teammates

That supercharger. He should stop playing.

I was just wondering when flats would play dps

I hate climbing to 3000+ SR then next season after placements it puts me at like freaking 1975 or some crap It’s annoying how this SR system works and I don’t get it

@lemonzest_

Жыл бұрын

What? I've never heard of that happening. You always place near the rank you were last season

Yo, you had Hatsune Miku as mercy that game! 😅😆👌🏻

Every single game. Except there's usually more abuse and slurs in there.

I don't even know what I'm playing most sessions. I create content but dude this is not Overwatch this is Fortwatch of Duty Impact. All these newbs who are mechanical gods coming over from COD and Apex have zero game sense. Very frustrating, because like OW1 this game has a massive years long learning curve to even begin to call yourself good at the game.

These players at this rank is why I stopped playing comp lol. Fck that. I don't need it.

If you're gonna play tank you need to know what you're doing. The tank imo is the hardest class to play only because it the easiest to feed with if you don't know what you're doing. Most of the damage and even most supports can just sit back and deal it out but most tanks need to be in the enemy teams face.

the ball is actually every other tank below gold level lol.

@alliedtadpole2531

Жыл бұрын

I say that as I am that tank sometimes soo....

Wow... on junkertown I am lucky if I get can 1 person to play a sniper. Always reaper and junkrat or some other odd short range hero on a giant open map.

Your Bobs were a better tank then the rat lol.

I thought you were against all smurfs

Flats absolutely popping off to secure first point on attack.

I love this guy playing a character that doesn't really fit with the meta of the team and against characters that counter him, and complaining about the team.

1. Log into OW 2. Disable chat 3. Play a game as best you can 4. Block anyone on xbox who seems vaguely toxic/ is a smurf. Every. Goddamn. Game. Blizzard is useless.

You think that’s bad? You should see silver- gold comms, once I realized “it isn’t their fault, it is partially mine” I climbed 1000sr in 1 season

I’m still gonna main dva in OW2 and maybe kiriko. God I hope OW2 community doesn’t end up like apex..good lord

@shadowterr0r273

Жыл бұрын

as someone who's main game is apex atm and looking to maybe getting into overwatch a lot more I hope you are right lmao

@TSGC16

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowterr0r273 What is wrong with the Apex community?

@ameliajane1999

Жыл бұрын

@@TSGC16 I’m also curious

@ruisurengai

Жыл бұрын

@@TSGC16 It exists Edit: I'm joking if it didn't come across 😂

Yes you did, flats.

Least annoying Hammond mains be like:

Bro has the gamesense of a hedgehog😢 actually that's an insult to hedgehogs

Bro diamond is so toxic man haha. I'm glad it's been pointed out. It's worse than any elo I've been in

Wait I loved this more of this pls Flats I loved you shitting on shit people

Wait how is comp 2 tanks? I thought it was 1 tank 2 dps 2 heal

@BlueGreyWolf

Жыл бұрын

This is Overwatch 1.

Honestly, this is nothing. I've experienced way worse, both directed to me and my teammates. (plat player)

You play ball and have the audacity to flame? Bruh

If you call this toxic you’re in for a treat😂😂

Dude, this is not toxic at all. If you think this is toxic you should see the chat in a silver or bronze game

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That Mercy was so good, though. But yeah, ball/hog outside of GM is often one of the first people to flame if they're feeding. A bunch of ego dps players do it, too, and probably more commonly, I find, though.

Salt for hog players reaching critical mass in these waning days of overwatch lol

If there's one thing I learn is everyone is toxic in every game.

Awww why didnt you add the part where the girl asks uf your flirting?

You should see silver/gold on console, they’re a whole different breed

He makes all ball players look bad

How do you know you know what you're doing if you're not climbing. The enemy team was pushing the cart, you guys were getting pushed back. You said "We're playing really good." Because I'm not diamond or GM I can only take your word. There's no official uniform way to play Overwatch and with groups of people who all have a different idea of how to secure the objective how does any other this make sense. All I'm really getting is "Have good mechanical skills" & "Get shot less than the enemy."

Ngl i dont think he is toxic,I seen a lot worse and this feel more like that the average player. Pretty mild

you're smurfing, i dont blame them for being toxic

glass popping OFF also that game wasn't that toxic

He's right though