When repairing a laptop, you should disconnect the PSU and the battery. And press power button for a few seconds, to discharge caps that still might be charged. The discharge even applies to desktops and servers. You dont wanna risk the hardware when i accidently touch a wrong component or trace.

@PatalJunior

10 ай бұрын

True, my lenovo has a cool feature on the bios that if you activate, the computer shuts off, and fully disconnects the battery. Don't know how it works, but I know it's mean to be used for disassembly. Always cool seeing brands adding these features to aid repairs.

@WildRapier

10 ай бұрын

I was just going to say the same. Capacitors definitely charged. I've watched someone drop a mounting screw on a motherboard without dissipating the power and take it out. Screw got magnetically drawn to a coil while bouncing around. How do you miss the simple things with 25 years of XP? Jay...?

@justfasial01

10 ай бұрын

Anytime you have a high capacity cap, especially in a PSU, it's connected in parallel with a resistor so as soon as the power is disconnected the cap starts discharging, it's a safety feature. You can read up on "Bleeder resistor" or "discharge resistors". So this really isn't necessary unless the manufacturer skimped on $2 worth of parts. Disconnecting the battery is all you need.

@Chopper153

10 ай бұрын

@@WildRapier Screws got drawn to the coil because it had a ferrite core and not because current was flowing through it. Even if current was flowing, it wouldn't be attracted as it's AC. Also, inductors don't store any charge when switched off.

@BladeLuoxi

10 ай бұрын

Anyone knows what laptop did he use? And especially what software is that? "Control center" or something?... Looks useful, remind me the Msi Afterburner😂... But doesn't look like from Msi, Asus, HP, or Razer software😅...

I'd like to see more gaming and productivity laptops that aren't so concerned about being thin and light, and are more focused on cooling, acoustics and ergonomics. If you want to use a laptop for any extended period, you need it propped up at the rear anyway, to reduce wrist fatigue and prevent it from getting too hot. Adding an extra 20-30mm of height at the rear for a large heat sink with some decent airflow would make sense for many reasons.

@my-yt-inputs2580

10 ай бұрын

Your comment was copied and pasted from an obvious porno spammer. A bunch of people liked that post/comment.

@Ben-Rogue

10 ай бұрын

@@my-yt-inputs2580 I guess it was because it was an early comment... You'd reckon Google would have found a solution to the spam accounts by now.

@jipeh

10 ай бұрын

Framework 16

@bituniverse8677

10 ай бұрын

Those old Acer Predators man, thick boys

@devilfish79

10 ай бұрын

Eluktronics has a water-cooled gaming laptop that's not worried about being thin and light. Not sure how well they function. Maybe Jay can do a review of that models performance.

I re-pasted my XPS 15 7590 the other day with Noctua NTH-1. It's a 4 year old laptop and the paste was crispy upon opening it up. I did see a couple hundred points improvement in cinebench. It was able to hold clocks higher for longer at the start of the run and max temps came down 10c on average across all cores. Definitely worth doing as now I can look into setting a quieter fan curve

@handyandqu

10 ай бұрын

Both Dell laptops I've changed past out to that noctua have see upwards of high single digit to doubly digit improvements, brand new within the first week of owning it. Appalling how bad the past or application they have is. Nice thing is make it easy to access so it's like 10-20 min max and you just gained substantial performance increase. Infuriating that it needs to be done out of the box though. Like really? Yhe tenths of pennies that were cheaped out on.

@TimberWulfIsHere

10 ай бұрын

Issue with nth1 is that the paste breaks apart overtime on laptops and falls to the side. Doesn't have that issue in desktop applications but.

@ScullyBrewing

10 ай бұрын

@@artvandelay9131 No they seemed fine, werent dried out or anything and my temps on other components were within spec so I didnt bother. I was mainly interested in lowering the CPU/GPU temps so that I could reduce fan noise on the cooler.

Just did this with the Dell Inspiron 1564 I used back in college in 2011. Cpu temp dropped 20c. I also swapped to a ssd using your videos and added another stick of ram. Runs surprisingly well for its age!

Nice ! I used my non working laptop as a guinea pig. I opened it, repasted and cleaned the fan a bit and after i put it together it worked again. That gave me the confidence to build my own pc so i dont have to bother with repasting a laptop again.

@daniel_rossy_explica

10 ай бұрын

I'm quite the reverse. I have years of building, dis assembling and reasambling PCs, but I don't want to even touch a laptop since I see it as a sealead box.

@IzanaKunigiri

Ай бұрын

​@@daniel_rossy_explicaDepending on the laptop, they can be a dream to work in or utter hell to work in. Things like the Alienware machines of recent years are an absolute headache if you don't like the process as the cooler is UNDERNEATHE and attached to the motherboard, Whereas things like Lenovo's X1 Carbon are an absolute Dream to work on with the cooler being a SUPER EASY replacement (4-6 screws and 1 plug after the bottom panel, Thats it. OFC after unplugging or removing Battery if you worry about that.) both Dell and Lenovo in particular put their service manuals online for the public. Dell calls them Service guides (Or in some cases it's merged with the User Manual) and Lenovo calls them Hardware Maintenence Manual, Both of which give a real good idea how complicated it is for your particular machine model. I used to do In-Warranty repair for Dell and Lenovo Machines for a living.

I've owned several gaming laptops. One thing I've learned for sure is you CAN always do a better thermal paste job than the factory. I've always dropped them by a few degrees by doing a thermal paste swap right from new.

@233kosta

8 ай бұрын

I think most of the time OEMs will favout long-term consistency over raw performance, so as long as you're willing to stay on top of it, there's performance to be had.

@jollygrapefruit786

5 ай бұрын

I have a delta 15 MSI laptop, and I replaced my thermal paste today. It was annoying as hell because the motherboard was upside down, so I had to take the entire MB out to access the heat sink. Definitely watching a tear down on my next laptop to avoid that.

@deher9110

5 ай бұрын

nah cuz some actually use ptm7950

@spudtsar9377

3 ай бұрын

Same. Had an Acer Predator 300 with a GTX 1060. I cleaned out the factory paste, put on some decent quality stuff and lowered overall temps by noticeable tens of degrees.

@dharshdanube6911

2 ай бұрын

@@spudtsar9377 what do you think are the best thermal pastes for laptop(mine gets to 90 cel easily while playing games)

You guys should have shown the second part on video where jay applied thermal paste on the memory chips, regular repasting is common now for the viewers of this channel, how to do it on memory chips is something I would definetly try now

When I repasted my laptop I used K5 thick thermal paste for the VRAM and spots there was pads. Works great.

I have a gaming laptop as well and what I do as well is also lift the back of the laptop with my old switch case and it helps to get more airflow in the laptop and bring the temps down. You should try it and if it helps with your laptop, maybe print a small bracket for it that you can keep in your bag

You should try using some phase-change material next time, like Honeywell’s PTM7950. It comes in as a sheet, lasts longer and performs in my experience even better than pastes like GC Extreme, KPX, and MX-5. Lenovo actually uses it on their newer (I think 2022 and after) Legions and it’s so good it’s actually a bad idea to repaste those laptops

@themadatheist1976

10 ай бұрын

Did that to my 10 gen MSI GL65 with K5 Pro on the stuff, pretty good stuff. I think that what MSI came with stock.

@HiPickle

8 ай бұрын

It seems like that's what they were using on the memory

@samimsamet8354

7 ай бұрын

I have a problem. I have a Gigabyte Aorus model laptop. I first tried Kyronaut and then MX6, but the CPU does not go below 90 degrees, what should I do?

@hyedefinition1080

7 ай бұрын

@@samimsamet8354 don't use Kyronaut. Use a thicker paste like a CoolerMaster Maker, GC extreme, or Honeywell pads...

@julianboyd8719

7 ай бұрын

@@samimsamet8354 clean out the fans, keep it elevated and undervolt if it's an Intel CPU.

I recently learnt about thermal putty as a thermal pad replacement, seems to work pretty good.

Sick video big DaWg. Keep em coming, I like these kind of vids, I have a 3050ti in my laptop and it's sweet to see what others are capable of

yea I think Jay made good call not putting liquid metal there. I put on mine, and sealed it with Scotch Super 33+ electric tape which worked perfectly, but my cpu &gpu blocks were a lot smaller.

I got an older PC, Digital Storm Equinox from I think 6 years ago maybe 5. I recently re-pasted it. Before I had to run it with a heavy under-volt to keep it cool even at idle. Now it runs fine at stock speeds. I think it was idle at 70C before or something, and now its idle at high 30 to low 40s Very happy with it. Oddly enough the old paste wasn't that dried out and had a good spread.

@user-jd7gh2ef4s

10 ай бұрын

Yes, especially with older notebooks, it's worth to repaste CPU and GPU chips, it significantly reduces noise level. I had a very loudly 2nd hand notebook, reopened it, and found out that the paste was completely removed 🙈After repasting, the thing got silent. Notebook are are a nightmare in this regard, because you need to disassamble the whole thing to get access to the CPU or graphic chip. Those devices should really have a better design in this regard.

The phase change honeywell ptm7950 gets a recommendation from me. It's not quite as good as liquid metal, but it is better than basically all thermal pastes and has a service life measured in decades not months/years and is basically zero hassle. Not sure if it's better than the kingpin stuff (probably very similar), but I can guarantee you won't need to touch it ever. I stopped using liquid metal once I found out about it in 2021. Every single laptop I literally only clean out the junk from the fans and temps are just as good as day 1.

@randomesteven3935

10 ай бұрын

Unless that Kingpin stuff is high viscosity, it wouldn't last nearly as long or perform as well after even just a couple months. And different laptops reacts differently to different paste. ONe laptop might do well on a paste, another, might not. But PTM 7950 is like the only one that works well on every laptop. Additionally, it is as good as LM. LTT did the test and showed its so close to LM. And it will only get better the more heat cycles it gets

@ironbloodedalchemist

10 ай бұрын

I don’t know much about thermal paste brands. But you sold me at Honeywell. A company that makes aircraft black boxes probably knows a thing or two about making stuff that lasts. Thanks for the tip!

@one_step_sideways

10 ай бұрын

I can confirm that PTM7950 is essentially as good as liquid metal, and it does not have any downsides of liquid metal (or regular thermal paste for that matter).

@randomesteven3935

10 ай бұрын

@@one_step_sideways For my case even, I found that going back in and retorquing the screws by a little (they were slightly loose after 6 months of using the PTM 7950) dropped CPU and GPU temps by another 1 or 2 degrees. Probably margin of error but definitely reproducible. Now, I'm at ~33w CPU in games @ 72C vs 74C previously in a room temp of ~25C. GPU hotspot is also now 85C max at 77w vs 88C before.

You should use ptm7950 and thermal putty like upsiren on all other components instead of thermal pads, especially since you didn't know stock thermalpad thickness. Btw on gpu memory chips manufacturer used thermal putty by the looks of it.

@soulsilver6799

10 ай бұрын

UP. I hope jayz sees this

@martinMVG

10 ай бұрын

This would make a good video, I've used ptm7950 for my cpu, gpu and my laptop and all of them now have lower temperatures. It's not as good as liquid metal but its hell of a lot safer.

@TigTex

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, the improvement Jay saw is probably because the vrams are unable to dissipate their heat efficiently, causing the rest of the laptop to run a little bit cooler. It's perfect to kill the VRAM. I bet that thermal paste will last a couple of months, tops. PTM7950 + K5 pro is the way to go

@tecnosalva14

10 ай бұрын

@@TigTex instead of K5 use Upsiren Ux Pro. Doesn't leave oil residue, reusable, much easier to clean. laso K5 seems to boil at high temp, so not really good for laptop

@harrydijkstra9936

6 ай бұрын

@@tecnosalva14 K5 Pro is trash, seen many user "improvements" with that stuff. PCB's covered in outgassed silicone and isolating air bubbles where the putty should be.

I'd be tempted to try PTM 7950. Performs better than paste, but doesn't have the risks of LM and the copper won't absorb the PTM like it does gallium.

@kgt8742

10 ай бұрын

I already tried it on my office laptop. It's way better and lasts longer than normal thermal paste. It also doesn't get pushed out by pressure as much as thermal paste when the heatsink is expanding due to heat.

@osamabinlaggin69

10 ай бұрын

I use it on my matebook 13, improved temps considerably and doesn't get pushed out like some pastes do.

@thefeaj

10 ай бұрын

i use this on my ga,me laptop 12700h and 3080, both dont go over 68c during gaming

@Jimmys_TheBestCop

10 ай бұрын

I 100% agree. Also with gaming laptops with aluminum bottom cases you just need to make thermal contact between the heat pipes and the bottom case either with honeywell ptm 7950 or thermal putty depending on distance. Creating a much larger heat sink which you can either custom build dock or buy one for pretty cheap that can cool the entire thing while making almost 0 noise.

@Kirsutan

10 ай бұрын

Exactly, normal paste pumps out pretty fast on bare dies like laptops and GPU's.

Did a repairs on my wife’s blade 15 base and made a huge difference on the gpu temps when gaming. A solid 12-13 degrees drop under load

Only your intro allready makes my day Jay!!!

If you want to go the liquid metal route you might be able to put a thin bead of say black rtv sealant around it. That should prevent the liquid metal from getting anywhere else, but it would make future disassembly more difficult as you’d likely have to use something to “cut” the sealant like thin wire, fishing line, or something scalpel like to be able to reach in far enough. Just pulling it off would likely kill the cooler as they tend to bend very easily.

I'm kind of a noob on this stuff, so I've never seen the thermal paste on VRAM trick. Well done!

those memory pads maty have been phase change thermal interface material, that starts being goopy at certain temps but appears like a soft doughy dry material when cool enough. They are usually used where nobody expects you to change the thermal interface material as they last really long without drying up. But they do not really conduct heat until they reach their operating temps.

Haven't watched yet, but It will definitely make a difference on an older laptop. I did this on my old asus gaming laptop and the difference was huge

With my Alienware laptops I’ve always repasted, use Arctic thermal pads, and used larger power supplies. I’ve noticed when there’s 2 different wattage power bricks involved the smaller one would get fire hot and the laptop temperature would thermal throttle as well. I’ve used 2 330w and I went from thermal throttle to 70’s C in same workload situations.

I put the Honeywell phase change material on my laptop and it has made a noticable difference with better cooling and performance.

Would be interesting to see a part 2 where you attempt to undervolt and see if that improves performance. Same clocks at lower temps, or higher clocks at same temperature.

Thank you for showing us the effect of changing the thermal paste. You would assume high end laptops will come with the best thermal paste or pads but apparently not. I recently bought Asus zenbook fold 17 and noticed that it gets extremely hot quickly. Is there any chance that you could get your hands on one of them and experiment with it maybe?

I bought a Dell XPS 15 about 7 years ago and used it every day at work. I still have it and recently replaced the memory, ssd, and cooling fans. Been thinking about repasting it as I'm sure whatever's there is basically dust by now. I'm just not sure if there are thermal pads in there, and if there are, what width they are. Great video.

Gelid GP thermalpad is the best option. They can compress quite a lot when required and the heat transfer is fantastic. Dropped my ASUS B650E-F chipset from low high 50s idling and mid 60s gaming to low 40s idling and high 40s gaming. Previous MSI motherboard had pretty good thermalpad as standard. Also “upgraded” the thermalpad for the NVMEs and gains were more modest, between 5 and 10C.

What control center are you using and where can I download it?? O and a happy new year to you!!!

Do not change liquid thermal pads for video memory to thermal paste! Never do this. Due to high temperatures, the thermal paste is squeezed out over time and a terrible overheating of the video memory begins. After that, the video memory fails.

I was literally just thinking about this today and researching whether I should do this to mine.

Thermal Grizzly sells the circuit protector. I'm surprised Roman hasn't sent you any. Thanks, Jay!! Love you!!

I also did this to my 2021 HP omen laptop, the intel 11800H was throttling at 100c, after repasting the cpu is at around 85c with some spikes at 92c max. Really worth it in my opinion!

u could use thermal putty it is thicker and fill perfectly fine to the height, since its like thermal paste & thermal pad (asus likes to use it & might also was used in this laptop but it looked unusually dry), also it should be fine for VRAM or VRM cooling.

Just my experience from corporate hardware days... when you buy a new off-the-shelf kind of laptop really anywhere, there's a chance that it was assembled quite a while ago and was just sitting around either in a warehouse or store shelf and the thermal paste may have already dried out. Every corporate Dell laptop I've had was in this same boat - the fans would run nonstop because the thermal paste was already totally dried out by the time it was deployed to me. Repasting them made them behave as expected - fans off/silent unless being hit by a high load. I've also seen that on both my Razer laptops.

I had an old laptop that I used for years, and it ran hot as hell. Never knew anything about computers back then. Decided to pull it from storage and clean it while also replacing all thermal paste. The old paste was POWDER. When I put the new paste in, thing ran as quiet as the day I got it. 1050ti + i7-10700 that makes a fantastic emulator box.

Nice laptop jay!

Great video. Maybe have a "Frame" of non-conductive paste on the edges and then fill the "frame" with liquid-metal. Just a thought.

Using a Lenovo Legion 7i Pro myself, with a 13900HX and RTX 4080. It comes with a vapour chamber cooler and liquid metal out of the factory and it's great. It's runs silently in 'quiet mode' with still enough horsepower to run AAA games at 60+ FPS using high/ultra settings.

This is really interesting. I wonder how much KPX would help my system compared to the paste that came with the AK620 cooler I have now.

From my experience, 40 series cards in laptops are quite cool. I have an MSI laptop with 4090 and it gets maximum to 70 degrees. The CPU is the main issue. I have 13900h, on full load it gets up to 4.8 Ghz and throttles down heating up to 95 degrees. So the solution I found is in decreasing the clock speeds in bios to 4.2 Ghz and undervolting it a bit, so now my system is running at 70 degrees.

Put liquid metal in mine and it helped a little bit. Undervolted the GPU and it made a MASSIVE difference.

Non Conductive Thermal Paste brought my Laptop 3D Mark Timespy score up a 1000 points. It's great to see the results in a benchmark.

Jay, have you ever used the K5 thermal paste/pad replacement? I used it on my 3070's vram and it made installing the water block so much easier. I was having contact issues with the EK ones they sent with the block.

Jay, Lately I have been seeing a lot less use of actual thermal pads in gaming laptops and more of what I call thermal goop. It allows for decent transfer while making sure it doesn't move very far and it squishes down as much as is needed and that is why it seemed like the pads had dried out before you removed them is because they were that 'thermal goop'. They usually use it on RAM and MOSFETs/chokes.

I believe it was k5 Pro thermal putty but a different colour than usual white colour. Stock thermal paste application seemed very good. I stopped using thermal paste with TG carbonaut or IC diamond HC pad which doesn't require maintenance other than cleaning out the fans

Great video, Jay, thank you so much. I really recommend trying liquid metal. I don't remember it creeping anywhere, but it is better to test it on something else.

It would be awsome to see how it will run with the new KryoSheet thermal pads from Thermal Grizzly. Those pads are made in graphene and since they are electrically conductive (but won't spread as liquid metal obviously) it would be intresting how they compare against a good thermal paste like that one that you put there.

@mattparsons946

10 ай бұрын

Just used that in my water blocks for both cpu and gpu. I’m impressed with the results so far.

Those brittle, puddy like thermal pads are quite popular with newer, more powerful and thinner laptops. Sometimes even 0.5 mm thermal pads are too thick to substitute those, keeping the plate too high off the gpu.

I am loving my mat. And, yes... have been doing sort of that thing with the repair parts on the mat, in the iFixIt cover.

I think the carbon/graphite sheets are the best way to go atm, if youre gonna repaste anything, of course the pressure should be decent, because the sheet wont press a single bit.

For me it definitely helped as Lenovo forgot to tighten one heatsink screw on my Legion. Brought me at least 4 Kelvin temp difference at max power output.(about 190w)

I'd avoid liquid metal. While on paper it can be pretty good, you'd have to apply a very small amount and make sure you get decent contact to eliminate the risk of something going wrong. Honeywell's PTM7950 is an overall better choice for both performance and hardware safety reasons. I've repasted two ROG G15AEs so far with PTM7950 for the dies and Upsiren UX Ultra Pro for the other chips and the results have been impressive. The stock liquid metal in those units' atrocious.

@DoctorHitman

6 ай бұрын

I have an ROG g15AE. thank you for this man.

@bradhaines3142

4 ай бұрын

is it a pad or a paste? im trying to get some and its hard to trust any of the sellers on amazon

I repasted my laptop in hopes of getting the temps down. All that ended up happening was that the CPU got higher boost clocks/longer boost. Temps remained the same. Turns out the AM5 CPU boosts until it hits the APU thermal limit, which was set at 92°C or close to that by default.

Looks like those aren't thermal pads on the VRAM but likely a thermal paste. I recommend using Upsiren UX Pro thermal putty instead of pads. For the core I would go with PTM7950 sheet

Thanks alot for all the information you put out here, thank God i came across your channel. +rep

Jay reminding me I need to repaste my laptop for the like 5th time lol

liquid gel pads sold by Thematic work brilliantly in Laptops I got my CPU temps down from 72c to 43c that's under heavy load.

When it comes to these new fangled gaming laptops I think the best bet is to just grab a fan utility and controlling them that way ;+ through any profiles built I . When I'm not gaming on mine a usually have it on the quietest setting and I've set the fans to like 1000rpm (out of a max of 4500) and that makes them barely audible and the aggregate component temperatures well below 40C

I used to work for a company that applied parts to PCB’s, was a solder tech and did conformal coating. was a fun gig.

I think that your improvement was because of a better pads installation. My biggest gripe with laptop quieting via rpm curve is that ambient temperatures play a large role in how aggressively it ramps fans. being in a chilly room will drop fan speed more than anything else. because of the portability nature of laptops, it is not a possibility to maintain that type of low ambient temperature. Just get a thicker laptop with a bigger heatsink or wait for that new solid state cooling solution the Airjet from Frore systems for quieter laptops.

Thanks Jay. Out of curiosity, have you ever tried applying kingpin thermal paste on the chips instead of thermal pads?

Should def try Honeywells PTM7950 pad. I did that with my laptop and it worked better than thermal paste.

@jabezhane

10 ай бұрын

Yup seems odd seeing people still pushing paste for this. Once you go PTM 7950...thats it.

I repasted a legion 5 with conductonaut and TG PP10 and got between 10-20c lower temps. This was sat on an IETS GT500 at full speed though, for before and after. So, liquid metal can make a good difference in temps. I used. Camera light dam foam as a gasket and did the 800grit rub and soak with LM for a few hours so the first application sinks in, wipe, reapply and (touch wood) you have a long term amazing thermal solution. At least I do anyway lol

For a laptop, I like Arctic MX4 thermal paste, because it has very good conductivity, and is very durable (~8 years). Most/all of those with better thermal transfer recommend replacement in 6mo-24mo due to “thermal pump out”, which might be acceptable to some users seeking the highest performance, but is a royal pain for most laptops.

That’s one nice looking mobo. Love that blue

I was thinking of doing this but watched a few videos where it didnt make a difference so o well. Its about a 8-10yr old MSI Apache 17" and still works fine.

I never knew you could repaste a laptop great job! Jay!

@teke2839

10 ай бұрын

That would be some Apple MacBook stuff As if you couldnt change the thermal paste on a laptop, that would reduce its life a lot

@jasonnemeck7351

10 ай бұрын

You can repaste any CPU or GPU. But, you have to get the quantity right and in the right places. Ryzen is different than Intel.

ive repasted all the GPUs and laptops ive ever owned and its always made a huge difference on temps and acoustics

The Liquid Metal application was terrible on my Asus Scar 15. Swapped it out for PTM7950 and put K5 Pro on all the VRMs. Works like a charm!

Just reminds me of the old laptop of my wife, desktop ryzen 1700 and a 580 in a case that seemed to be like 3 laptops, but the way it was designed nearly allowed 0 fresh air intake, so i got me a dremel 😂

Try adjusting the settings so that your video card gradually increases the fan speed. "Automatic" makes it jump to 90-100% immediately. I would also ask about a bios update because that thing should not be so loud; Either that or change the fans.

I used arctic .50 pads and paste on my 2016 17" predator and it's quieter and way freaking cooker than when purchased. My fans are not going full blast and I removed the secondary fan insert. Put back in the cd drive cassette. Runs like a champ and quiet! I also replaced both fans as you could hear 1 that sounded like bearings were wearing out

I have an old gaming laptop (i5-8400H and a 1050) that i mainly use as a console for my tv to play stuff like GTA5 and rocket league. What ive noticed that changed dramatically the temperatures was limiting the cpu frequency. By default it boosts up to 4.20 GHz (which of course generates a lot of heat 90-100 degrees). What i did was locking the maximum speeds at 3.0 GHz using a program called quickcpu (there might be better programs i just know this one for now). Now i range a max 70-80 degrees with a not significant performance loss. Ive noticed that my GPU doesnt get as hot as the CPU so i didnt touched anything with it. For you in that case with a 13900HX is to lock it at 4.50 GHz and see if the temperature drops and your performance is good enough. Repasting is a good step but it only will get you so far (I still recommend you to do it every year + replacing any thermal pads and a fan cleaning!).

Hey Jay, why not install a Frore Systems Airjet solid state cooler as well if there's space to do so?

If you are going to use liquid metal, you may consider put zinc plating on your copper heatsink. Many liquidmetal would absorbed by copper. Which results 'drying' liquidmetal. (I do re-apply liquidmetal time to time due to that reason. It is quite annoying. )

Hey Jay take a look at MG Chemicals 422C Silicone conformal coating over nail polish. I have been using it for my drones I fly in all weather and multimeters I use for work. I did use clear polish for a time but its nothing like the performance of the 422C. It has some other benefits also like it changes colour under UV light so its easy to see the coverage you have. Its tolerance to heat is much better and wont start to degrade over time.

I repasted my g7 not long ago and got 20+degree drops on the CPU and GPU, was considering using liquid metal but it seems like you have to replace it yearly which on this laptop would be a massive PITA since the whole laptop needs to come apart to get to the TIM, went with my ol' reliable Diamond IC which has always been my favorite

@Robbie-mw5uu

Ай бұрын

use ptm9750 it wont go dry

On my old notebook I put LiquidMetla without any safety-measures and I've been lucky, the notebook is still running and it must be almost 10 years old (I obviously don't use the notebook frequently anymore due to the low performance compared to modern Hardware)

I recently re-pasted my HP Omen i7 10750h RTX 2070 laptop using Prolimatech PK3 Nano Aluminium. Before I was constantly thermal throttling and the fans were just full bore obnoxious. After everything settled down. All core boost is up, 2 cores are actually flirting with the advertised 5GHz top end. There is far less thermal throttling when stress testing, and whilst gaming all cores sit between 65-70 c on average, core 5 is considerably lower. There is the odd spike to 100 c now and then. The GPU dropped from 70 c to low 60 c and its generally a much more pleasant laptop to use. I have also used the same compound on my new i7 13700k desktop build with Noctua D15 and LGA 1700 bracket with outstanding results.

That laptop is definitely a Clevo design, i have a clevo 17 inch beast from 2008 that has those same red stickers with the date everywhere. Repasting a laptop is one of the best things you can do to keep it alive longer and make it faster I repasted my Dell E5430 laptop from 2012 with NT-H2 and I saw a 30 degree drop in CPU temps from 105C and thermal throttling down to 70 at the full clockspeed with no throttling, both tests were at full fan speed with an i5 3320m, a 35W TDP chip in a laptop. Ive since swapped in the a 45W quad core i7 chip which this machine never shipped with, and it never breaks 100C at full load in prime95. A 10$ repaste is so worth it to improve the performance of these old laptops, especially the old dell latitudes as they are built like tanks and seem to last forever.

Hello, can you tell me please, which Control Center are you used at this video? It looks awesome!!! 🤩

It was very insightful. So, I am wondering, would it be wise if I replace the old thermal pads with thermal paste? After seeing your video, it feels like my ROG GX800 would give better performance if I just use thermal paste. That, if nothing shorts out.

I did the carbonaut thermal pad on my laptop so I don't have to ever worry about dried out thermal paste and it brought down temps

I need to repaste mine, but to do so you have to remove the motherboard as the upgrade glory hole isn't big enough to get the heat sink out or get to all the screws on the heatsink, so means messing around with ribbon cables, etc.

did a repaste on my Alienware17R4 - best thing I did honestly. Used liquidmetal and some conformal coating (just in case). Dropped temps, raised scores, lowered fan speeds... Do I recommend? As something that possibly (likely) voids the warranty, don't really recommend unless you positively, absolutely know what you're doing and what the benefits will be.

Needed to re-paste my laptop. It all of a sudden started to thermal throttle. Used KPX on the cpu and gpu. Used corsair thermal paste on the rest of the components. No longer thermal throttling.

Awesomesauce video!! I wonder if using o-ring material would work for your moat? You could lay it down, trim length, and melt together. Would dielectric grease help it stay in place. Then, your liquid metal would have its moat. Something to think about. From one Jay to another Jay.H57

When I opened up my HP Omen 15 the factory paste was very dry and just broke off in big chunks. I used Arctic mx-6 and it did make a difference but not the one I'd hoped for. I also use a cooling pad under it which also helps with temps. I'm hoping that better paste will be available soon that will wick away even more heat. My fans don't ramp up until temps remain high for longer than I'd like but the omen app only allows auto and high with nothing in between nor does it allow me to plot my own fan curve.

For my Acer Nitro 5 is definetely did, 2 years ago. It kept overheating when it was just one year old. Monitor and keyboard shut off for a few seconds and then worked again for a few minutes just to shut off again. I put new paste and pads on and it was all fine again and is still until now.

@JayzTwoCents, you excited for Solid State cooling? Perfect for laptops and mini pcs I think the companies name was Furore?

Interesting video, Jay & Team! Could you maybe test the Thermal Grizzly Kryosheets in the laptop. Should be very interesting, since it's a non-liquid solution that should come close to LM

@CMan-602

10 ай бұрын

I would also love to see additional thermal testing using alternate pastes, sheets, etc.

Why not just use the Kingpin thermal paste as calking around the die to keep the liquid metal in? Wouldn't the liquid metal eat away at the copper heat spreader?

The KP with its low viscosity is subject to the pump-out effect more than other pastes. Requires more frequent repasting. Same with Thermal Grizzly Cryonaut, vs. let's say Hydronaut.

I thought this was going to be boring but I was wrong. Well done Jay!

What thermal pads are you using @JayzTwoCents? I am thinking of putting thermal grizly KryoSheet that are 0.2 mm thick on everything and then put paste on the cpu and gpu and I wonder if the cpu and gpu will make proper contact??

On old laptops changing your HDD to SSD and changing paste makes HUGE difference.

@raifthemad

10 ай бұрын

Mostly thanx to windows bloat. Back when win10 came out, it booted and operated pretty fast even from hdd's but a year or two of updates, and it moves at a snails pace on those.

@fissavids8767

9 ай бұрын

​@@raifthemadnot true. It's because hdd's were never meant to be carried around and they would all get damaged. Writing an image of the old hdd to an SSD would result in the same performance jump. Source: I revived many laptops

@raifthemad

9 ай бұрын

@@fissavids8767 All I was saying, is that when win10 came out, it booted and worked pretty fast even on hdd's. And after years of updates, windows has become so bloated, that hdd's are a very slow option for that os now. I know. I fix electronics and back when first versions of win10 came out and were installed on machines with hdd's, they loaded stuff at ok speeds. But after a few years of updates, even installing fresh windows 10 on a new hdd has horrendous loading times. I never claimed, that windows was ever as fast on hdd's as it is on sdd's. I don't know where you got that from.

It varies from OEM to OEM but you either use thermal pads or thermal grease (not paste).

So for longevity, you should make an update video :) - I have switched to Thermal Grizzly kryosheets in my laptop, for longevity reasons, even though it is highly conductive.. it makes a huge difference!