Why People Prefer More Pain
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References:
Kahneman, D. et al. (1993). When More Pain Is Preferred to Less: Adding a Better End. Psychological Science - ve42.co/Kahneman1993
Kahneman, D. (2011). Thinking, fast and slow. Farrar, Straus and Giroux - ve42.co/FastAndSlow
Fredrickson, B. L., Kahneman, D. (1993). Duration neglect in retrospective evaluations of affective episodes. Journal of personality and social psychology - ve42.co/Fredrickson1993
Kahneman, D., Tversky, A. (1972). Subjective probability: A judgment of representativeness. Cognitive Psychology - ve42.co/Kahneman1972
Diener, E. et al. (2001). End Effects of Rated Life Quality: The James Dean Effect. Psychological Science - ve42.co/Deiner2001
Redelmeier, D. A. et al. (2003). Memories of colonoscopy: a randomized trial. Pain - ve42.co/Redelmeier2003
Kemp, S. et al. (2008). A test of the peak-end rule with extended autobiographical events. Memory & Cognition - ve42.co/Kemp2008
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Written by Petr Lebedev and Derek Muller
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**Ends with an annoying ad** PS I was slightly disconcerted by how many folks didn't notice that my comment was meant to be facetious. Of course I don't deny Derek the right to place sponsorship messages alongside his amazing content! However, doing so at the end of this particular video made me smile at the irony and I wanted to make you guys smile as well. I am glad for the majority of you who did - you are amazing. Cheers!
@hypnoticlizard9693
15 күн бұрын
Or he knows that you wont watch the ad/its worth watching anyway so the video already ended. Sponsor got done dirty.
@gizanked
15 күн бұрын
@@hypnoticlizard9693pretty sure this is a standard practice on his videos. I'm sure the sponsor knew about it before coming to an agreement.
@Rex-xj4dj
15 күн бұрын
The actual pain
@denatle
15 күн бұрын
Sponsorblock
@boonjabby
15 күн бұрын
Brilliant.
"End it with something pleasant" Proceeds to end the video with a sponsor message
@NitrogenVM
15 күн бұрын
💀
@HydrantRooster
15 күн бұрын
At least he didn't show "Man being forcibly drowned". 5:37
@littledotinthespace
15 күн бұрын
Lol 😂 For me, the video ends before the add and while the add plays I read the comments
@gm2407
15 күн бұрын
At least he didn't show the colonoscopy.
@yegorchernyshov9202
15 күн бұрын
sponsorblock 🤯
“Put your right hand in the box.” “What’s in the box?” “Pain.”
@olpizl
12 күн бұрын
Reminds me of „The Dune“
@CatMowpurr
12 күн бұрын
@@olpizl Reminds me of the barber of seville overture, which is playing in the background
@jimmyzhao2673
11 күн бұрын
ah ha !! Good one.
@NickRoman
11 күн бұрын
Derek whips out the Gom Jabbar
@D3nn1s
11 күн бұрын
@@olpizlpretty sure thazs because he meant it as a reference ;)
Its why you always celebrate finishing a difficult task/bad experience with something you enjoy. It makes the whole experience better.
@Devilofdoom
11 күн бұрын
Another interesting point is that working towards something, like maybe learning a song. The reward at the end is that you now know a new song, and you look back fondly on the process of learning it. Even though in reality, it was probably pretty tedious. This pushes us to learn more. This is likely the evolutionary reason as to why the mind works like this. Because it drives motivation. Which is ultimately what put us at the top of the food chain. The other thing I noted from this video was the idea that the mind takes snapshots, rather than recording the whole experience. While true to a point, I think what comes in snapshots is the ability to remember without a reference. Generally if you specifically ask someone if they remembered any particular point of an experience they will be able to. Even if the memory does not trigger when you simply ask what they remember from the experience as a whole.
@Vipce
7 күн бұрын
@@Devilofdoom his how i felt when learning the rubiks cube
@Dudeguymansir
2 күн бұрын
Celebrating during by drinking doesn’t count, does it 😊
Ending with that cute dog was so smart. Some KZreadrs end their videos with an annoying ad so the viewers forget they ever saw that dog
@Vousie
15 күн бұрын
I see what you did there. 😉 And yup. Very stupid on his part to *still* put the ad at the end...
@thelocalshoop
15 күн бұрын
@@Vousie I think he was making a joke at that point haha
@-Timur1214
15 күн бұрын
@@thelocalshoop doesnt seem like it, its just a prerecorded ad bro
@jeebusk
15 күн бұрын
well he did thank you for watching
@cyclopropinon5143
15 күн бұрын
peak irony. i love it
"The best way to close a KZread video is with a wholesome message, so here's a cute dog playing with flowers" - Proceeds to follow the cute dog with an ad 😅
@xKumei
15 күн бұрын
I wonder if that means that people generally prefer watching youtube videos with ad reads in the middle compared to them at the end?
@RonixEnclave
15 күн бұрын
The real question is do more upvotes on a reply leave a stronger impression on a person or the last comment?
@griffinbastion
15 күн бұрын
@@xKumeiThere is no reason to continue watching at the end
@jellyg0at9
15 күн бұрын
Bro he just gave you permission to skip watching the ad section. Like, the video is over now, this is clearly the after-the-video portion of the upload.
@skuerzard8498
15 күн бұрын
@@jellyg0at9 he is expecting us to have Sponsorblock addon
Honestly, ending with an ad pays less than a mid-roll ad, so Veritasium is actually sacrificing it's revenue for us.
@Lo-Delfi
10 күн бұрын
I got a mid roll ad, too.
@c.jishnu378
10 күн бұрын
@@Lo-Delfi I am talking about the sponsor.
@SuperVratik
10 күн бұрын
Cfbr
@chaosjacky
3 күн бұрын
Where did you get that info?
@SuperVratik
3 күн бұрын
@@chaosjacky it’s common knowledge. Advertisers pay less if you put their ads in end because most viewers just skip it
The sponsor message at the end of the video is just him experimenting on all of us. Well played sir, well played.
@Ram_jagat
12 күн бұрын
yeah
“Everyone must choose one of two pains: The pain of discipline or the pain of regret.” - Jim Rohn
@xeryues
15 күн бұрын
what about my existential pain?
@GrantGazi
15 күн бұрын
I think that’s interesting, though what is meant by discipline can differ. For example, I lead something of an easy life. there are probably people who would look at me and say some variation of unmotivated or lazy. But I keep up on rent, laundry, dishes, hygiene. To me that’s discipline. I’m not much for hard work but I work hard enough to live the life I want. I believe if I pushed myself harder, disciplined myself more, I would lose a serenity that I value deeply.
@parsakakhani9888
15 күн бұрын
wow! what an impressive sentence!
@EverydayNormieMadafacka
15 күн бұрын
@@xeryuesyou don’t get to chose that one.
@4creax
15 күн бұрын
@@xeryues From my experience and those around me, existential pain is a pain of regret masked by very strong mental defense mechanisms. And overcoming that is a long process.
The ad at the end is brilliant. People feel so smart pointing this out, that you get a huge amount of comments -> peak. And not only that: People also remember themselves being so smart. And people love feeling smart. And THIS is the real end of the video experience for them.
@osopapi
14 күн бұрын
I think you got it. Thanks
@bredlify3079
14 күн бұрын
O.O
@UnknownUser-pf9rk
14 күн бұрын
Or is it?
@phillipsheridan1982
14 күн бұрын
Thus is what I was looking for. Also, I feel like Derek ended the video for most of us earlier, then sort of winked at us to just move on.
@dr.vspace
8 күн бұрын
I was thinking almost same, brilliant idea it was
I think the bank teller question is tricky because we misread the question. the reader THINKS it means "what's more likely, Bank Teller AND Feminist or Bank Teller AND NOT Feminist?" When what is being asked is really "what's more likely, Bank Teller (either Feminist or Not), OR Bank Teller AND Feminist?"
@NicolasAuvillain
14 күн бұрын
I agree, this has always struck me as a bad question. Given the choices 'Bank Teller' and 'Bank Teller and Feminist', I would read the first choice 'Bank Teller' as meaning "not Feminist", because that's how language works, with context. It seems Kahneman isn't aware of that basic feature of language.
@rubenlopezruiz8010
13 күн бұрын
Also, he even says sometimes in the video "just a bank teller". That is literally wrong as just a bank teller would imply she is not a feminist.
@AlexaOrchid
13 күн бұрын
Exactly! I wanted to write the same but saw your comment.
@nathanshaffer3749
13 күн бұрын
Not only that, but it is logical to say no difference in probability between the 2 options. Consider that a layperson being asked this question has not done a study to determine what the average percentage of people at a feminist protest are feminist, they are being asked to assign some ratio as part of the logic. Most people would just say, it's reasonable to guess that 100% of people protesting for those ideals are also feminist. Same would be if you asked "what is the chance a person who attends a baptist church identifies as a Christian?" Clearly the researchers have made the assumption that there are people who protest at the rally who aren't feminist, but why is that the only rational assumption? Since we have established that Jen is a protester, we could assume that she has a 100% chance of being a feminist, using the assumption of protest attendance that we were kinda forced to make. So the probability of A vs A && B doesn't change if the probability of B is 100%. Tommy is currently enrolled in elementary school. Which statement has a higher degree of probability? 1. Tommy is allergic to peanuts. 2. Tommy is allergic to peanuts and Tommy is't old enough to buy alcohol. A person would only think two statement only have a different degree of probability if they have reason to believe that there are elementary students who aren't allergic to peanuts AND elementary students who can buy alcohol.
@Zaque-TV
13 күн бұрын
Bot
I agree with the argument "happy ending" but I would consider two more things which are also related to each other. 1- Already leaving your comfort zone the participants of your experiment are leaving their comfort zone by putting their hands in the cold water, so it doesn't matter for them staying a bit longer because they already felt the pain. Imagine, you have to edit a KZread video but you don't have enough energy and motivation to do that but once you start, it doesn't make so much difference continue editing for one more hour, if you get a better result at the end aka a better prize. I would say the prize in this experiment for the participants is to be able to hold their hands more. 2 - more stress = more adrenalin and dopamine until a certain point for example doing an exercise causes stress but with that adrenalin and dopamine hormones release which make us happy. It happens also while we are studying or taking cold shower. It means leaving our comfort zone makes us happy, so leaving it a bit further means more happiness until a certain point. In my opinion we also see this effect in your experiment that's why the participants remember the longer version better.
I didn't expect 14C water to be cold enough to hurt, it seems okay in my head
@theral056
15 күн бұрын
I'm equally confused by this. I guess I'm just accustomed to cold? I shower cold and wash hands cold, etc. As long as it's not freezing I also have my window next to me open. Dunno, seemed quite mundane to put a hand in 14C water for a minute. Might have to actually try it to figure out what this is about lol.
@pourplecat
15 күн бұрын
I think water temperature is colder than air temperature, its not like sticking your hand in 14 C air and water is the same. Edit: Feels colder, not is colder
@junipermeisje6300
15 күн бұрын
It took me 12 minutes of wondering the same thing, until I realised it’s degrees Fahrenheit…
@randomperson1418
15 күн бұрын
@@junipermeisje6300 I don't think it is, the digital readout says C
@randomperson1418
15 күн бұрын
@@pourplecat I suppose, but I doubt that submerging 1 hand would hurt that much? I don't have a good thermometer so I can't do this experiment myself, sadly
Ending a video essay about the benefits of a positive final impression with a 1.5-minute ad is a tad ironic 😂
@andrewluo3792
15 күн бұрын
At least it wasn't BetterHelp this time...
@nishchal1207
15 күн бұрын
Is ironic , but it has made thousands of people talk about the add, which was their goal. Now they are either super dumb or are super smart to let others think that they are smart and also make them remember about this one add on a veritasium video.
@FinnWhittley
15 күн бұрын
They said u remember the ending a lot so it would be beneficial to have it at the end as people would remember the add more
@TiogshiLaj
14 күн бұрын
Ah, but the final 1.5 minutes can be *skipped* , the video stopped, or the tab closed. The whole point of the extra 30 seconds of the hand-in-water experiment -- *and* the colonoscopy example -- is that the participant is *not in control of how long it lasts* . But as a viewer of a video, you choose when to end it, so you can *choose* to stop at the puppy.
@mattdejarld6522
14 күн бұрын
Who wants to bet he's got 50percent of the videos with and without the ad. Looking forward to the results !
Your voice and your content is what make me come back every time! I love that it can be applied to almost everything I do in my life, work, training, partnership and memory. I never realized that memory was a photographer and not a filmmaker but know that you mentioned it, it is a photo ta come alive and short span of before and after the photo play in my mind but really not the whole thing. Thanks once again for this great video, I love how memory work and affect our lives in subtle ways.
Ending the video with an ad did put a smile on my face, well done sir.
This is why rock concerts have encores. Edit: this actually works both ways - the fans get to hear a song they've been waiting for and so have a peak experience, and the band gets to play while the crowd goes utterly wild, so they also get a peak experience.
@lonesome3958
12 күн бұрын
This is a very interesting application of that theory. Never thought about it this way, but albsolutely makes sense
@Leyrann
12 күн бұрын
Interestingly, quite a few bands put their most famous song at the very end of the encore - for example, just last week I saw Scorpions, who finished with Rock You Like A Hurricane. I wonder if combining the peak and the end magnifies the memory, or dulls it because they're overlapping...
@agalah408
5 күн бұрын
"Goodnight Springfield...There will be no encore!" "Man.. lets trash this place!"
As a French, it took me way too long to understand that thumbnail. Of course I want more pain!
@TooTallForPony
14 күн бұрын
pain de mie, pain de campagne, pain de sucre, pain de savon....
@allanshpeley4284
14 күн бұрын
@@TooTallForPony You forgot "pain de butt"
@YO-BIZZY
14 күн бұрын
@@allanshpeley4284poo loaf?😂
@austinpeterson4898
14 күн бұрын
@@YO-BIZZYthe best kind of pain
@danyelnicholas
14 күн бұрын
c‘est pain perdu pour les americains…
I love your content. Holy moly, there were _sooo_ many issues with so many arguments here. I found myself nearly spitting my coffee out just from the poor/ leading phrasing used in a couple of the questions used the studies referenced.
@newkboots
5 күн бұрын
Did you not watch the substance of the video? Or are you just being pedantic and hypercritical?
@InfTlr
5 күн бұрын
@@newkbootswhat do you think, coming from a person that uses the expression "nearly spit out my coffee"?
@InfTlr
5 күн бұрын
"Holy moly goly jeepers my jinkies are so rattled and my coffee nearly spat out in outrage" Soyjak
@shitinsideyou
3 күн бұрын
did you spit the coffee?
"Berry" has multiple definitions, one of which is the botanist's definition, the other is the colloquial definition. The latter includes strawberries and excludes eggplants.
@alexket8403
13 күн бұрын
"Vegetable" is also not a botanical word at all. Vegetable is a culinary term, and it used to mean all parts of plants, such as stems, leaves, fruit, seeds, etc. Now we're a bit more picky about what is a vegetable, but it's still not a botanical term lol
@agalah408
5 күн бұрын
How would you classify a Hale Berry?
@thomaskaldahl196
5 күн бұрын
@@agalah408 your mom 😎
10:30 There's something oddly satisfying about hearing Derek stop talking science for a moment and just absolutely roasting the final season of GoT.
@kindlin
14 күн бұрын
It was a great example...... no can fault him if that pain is still present.
@AidanBurt
14 күн бұрын
Great analogy
@lukefrahn8538
14 күн бұрын
the final season was constipated - the solution was 'all bran'
@SomeInfamousGuy
14 күн бұрын
It wasn't just the final season. It started going wrong in season 5.
@murkotron
14 күн бұрын
Gaym of transes
“Putting something unpleasant at the end reduces the total perceived quality” proceeds to put an ad at the end of the video
@JaefisonSanchez
14 күн бұрын
I can't believe these coomers would like this dumb bot's AI comment, it just shows humanity is gonna end soon.
@JaefisonSanchez
14 күн бұрын
YOU KNOW WHAT COOMERS, FINE, HERE IS THE GIRL IN THE PICTURES NAME, BEING USED BY THE STUPID SANXUAL SCAM BOT. HERE NAME IS "arisepeachie/arisepeach". THERE, GET WHAT YOU WANT FAP LEGIONNAIRES. EEEEEEEEEE
@JaefisonSanchez
14 күн бұрын
"Her", not here, lol my grammar sucks.
@Mrmr-djkfddsfs65
14 күн бұрын
Would it have been better with the ad in the middle or beginning? Besides, are you actually going to watch the ad?
@Hlebuw3k
14 күн бұрын
bot shut up
Heavens! I have been doing it wrong the entire time, I always like to push myself a little extra at the end of a workout for instance, despite not liking it very much. No wonder, I feel bad about it later on. Thankfully, I can learn. I skipped the ad in the end. Thank you comment section!
Thank you for your review on those studies! Very informative and eye-opening!
I feel like there is a problem with the Linda problem: people aren’t familiar with probability terms and have the misconception that instead of the the first option being that she is just a bank teller, it is that she is a bank teller but not a feminist. This ultimately means that they scale the area of the *intersection* of bank teller and feminist with the probability of *bank teller minus the intersection,* which could make the intersection more likely.
@defense200x
15 күн бұрын
I'm not buying the whole "preferring pain" thing, its more likely that people associate the additional wait time with the second experiment and thus would prefer the first one again
@MyNameIsSalo
15 күн бұрын
@@defense200x it's randomised. The first test is longer in half the cases, the second test is longer in the other half. If people had some bias towards thinking the second test was longer and thus worse, then you'd see an even 50/50 split between people prefering the longer or shorter one as the first test is randomly one of the two. You don't see a 50/50 split, the research paper showed 70/30. That said, the sample size was only like 50, which is extremely small for human studies. So a large sample size of millions might show 50/50. But it's hard to argue with the rest of the video though, even if you feel the science isn't accurate you know that what it's trying to prove is real. It's just difficult to prove. Also the preferred pain thing is youtube clickbait, what the video is actually about is how we remember experiences. People prefer the experience that had a more pleasant ending to it, not that they preferred more pain.
@tobyshe3683
15 күн бұрын
I agree with your analysis and also don't think the Linda problem is related to this subject. I know statistics well enough to answer B instantly, but I know that I would still probably rank the 30 yr life of Jen higher than 35 yr.
@sczygiel
15 күн бұрын
This whole video is about a set of faulty experiments. There is so many wtf there that it is probably worthless "science". Like how do you end up with less desirable life if it is longer? clearly that was not the only difference or the measurement was imprecise. I refuse to trust any psychological science since I learned how non replicable they are and how shitty the conduct is in many cases. Also, I refuse to believe that 30 seconds of warmer water was actually 30 seconds of feeling the warmth. I downwoted this video. It spreads bs unfortunately.
@sczygiel
15 күн бұрын
@@defense200x Also I dont think that 30 seconds of warmer water is actually 30 seconds of just 1 degree warmer water. It is not possible to warm the water as a whole instantly even by 1 degree. The experiments are an example of bad science painted as rigorous. It is bs unfortunately. There is a reason the replicability of psychological studies is so bad.
Your videos never disappoint 🌞 Thank you.
@almafonua5757
9 күн бұрын
Except for his pronunciation to Hiroshima herowshema? 🤦🏾♂️ other than that, great video
What you say is true and true from my own experience, as last year’s summer vacation ended with an earthquake that struck Morocco, and this made me forget all the beautiful moments of the summer vacation.
The best way to end this youtube video is with dog playing with the flowers - ends it with an ad instead. Truly makes you think.
@user-ox1fr6wc4o
15 күн бұрын
Surat No. 2 Ayat NO. 28 How can you be ungrateful to Allah Who bestowed life upon you when you were lifeless then He will cause you to die and will again bring you back to life so that you will be returned to Him. Surat No. 52 Ayat NO. 35 35 Were they created out of nothing, or are they their own creators? Surat No. 52 Ayat NO. 36 36 Did they create the heavens and the earth? No! They have no
@hobrin4242
15 күн бұрын
yeah lmao it is kind of undermining his whole message, idk what the thought process was about that. Maybe he really believes that people don't want to leave the video to click the ad when it is in the middle of the video. Or maybe this was like a playful message to say that his sponsor is actually a good thing. Idk.
@yuitachibana8829
15 күн бұрын
Iirc only middle ads are controlled by content creator and preroll and endroll are KZread automatic ads?
@evankim2406
15 күн бұрын
@@yuitachibana8829 They're talking about the sponsorship.
@KORRE760
15 күн бұрын
Yeah guys. How could you do that to Allah? Shits fucked up
Guess the best way to deal with pain is to imagine what is expected to be accomplished from challenge 👍👍👍
@gang1798
15 күн бұрын
Then there’s me who likes swimming in 50 degree water 😂
@drpkmath1234
15 күн бұрын
@@gang1798 Let me know if you do that haha
@gang1798
15 күн бұрын
@@drpkmath1234 hehe
@amaljoe367
15 күн бұрын
But wont that lead to people staying in their pain
@Bwalston910
15 күн бұрын
What does this even mean
I watched this video a week ago and I'm remembering it very fondly
Great book from Daniel Khaneman and great video! Thanks for that!
"Pain is temporary. Quitting lasts forever." - Sun Tzu
@user-tw4mk5ox5w
15 күн бұрын
Confuscius say Dongs Big Dang!
@PunkIcould
15 күн бұрын
"Stop quoting things I didn't say!" -Sun Tzu
@RenameUranus2Caelus
14 күн бұрын
"But chronic pain is forever. So.... 🤷♀️ Whatever, I guess." - Famous Q. Person
@user-vk1vf7nt1b
14 күн бұрын
He is a successful Footballer Hope Sport. You don't want to marry Ronaldo, you might think?! He knew I had Asthma Bronchial. His dog also had Asthma. And only when I started smoking attacks it became 50% less. And the former spouse was generally indignant that there was no asthma. Remission. From 13 to 15 years old, they already gave the Second Disability Group, and this is 25 years of life from the moment. 13(15)+25=39 years (38-40) Doctors speak from Mom. But at the age of five, I almost died from Whooping cough. And earlier, too, the hope of Sports of the USSR was expelled for unsportsmanlike behavior two fights from the school of the Olympic reserve in Gymnastics, but did not tell him about it. For three years there was. Coach alone took away free of charge from the entire kindergarten. On the swimming offered until the scandal subsides to go, but I was offended. Professional straight hope and talent. These are the health consequences of a sharp drop in Professional sports. Do you think he would want to date a girl who Twice Beat, Fought and Beat up her gymnast rival from the Paid Section? When is he an Athlete himself? There is definitely no puppy with flowers. Before that, having scored an arrow on Brawl with his friends for insulting that without a bra in a T-shirt he walks from which he smeared her. So no one else climbed to her. I beat my classmates at school for the cause. And not only Peers at school. 🥴Yes, my hands are weak, and my legs are very strong. And I hit well unexpectedly with a turn of foot.
@LuisSierra42
14 күн бұрын
Quitting doesn't last forever unless you quit life
I had this shower thought quite a while ago, where I figured that adults perceive time faster than children partly because we do less things during the day. A child has less experiences, so anything they do is a new "photograph" in their mind, so they learned and experienced many new things, so the day was perceived as slower. Our mind tracks time in moments and not seconds. If you get yourself focused on the work and use several hours on one thing - it's just a single "moment", a single photograph.
@Rydn
14 күн бұрын
I also watched that Vsauce video, yes.
@LuisSierra42
14 күн бұрын
@@Rydn or did you?
@Rowan4Christ
14 күн бұрын
Also, the more recent and vivid memories, or 'photographs', the less you have from previous years
@druggy1868
14 күн бұрын
A year to a 10 year old kid is 10% of his life but merely 2.5% of a 40 year old adult's life. That might be another factor affecting how they perceive time.
@hokayson6518
14 күн бұрын
@@druggy1868 This was always my assumption too.
That was super interesting and informative. Thank you.
That is why the quality of these videos are so good... Because they always end on a good note...
9:33 "Also, annoyingly enough, a strawberry is not technically a berry. Botany is confusing." Nor is it a straw!
@bide2505
15 күн бұрын
But it has achenes 😢
@busybee2033
13 күн бұрын
🥱
I think it makes a lot of sense. 1. Knowing the peak of discomfort allows us to judge whether we can go through the same discomfort again. When your goal is not dying, then "how close are you to dying at the worst moment of the experience" is a very good indicator of how bad given experience is. 2. The end is usually the moment when we get a reward for doing something. Therefore we focus on remembering the end of an experience in order to know what kind of reward we can expect for going through this again. Recuding the whole experience to these two numbers allows us much easier processing of events and judging whether we want to take part in them again, while at the same time it preserves most important information about the event.
@ripvanwando
14 күн бұрын
"In music, though, one doesn’t make the end of a composition the point of the composition. If that were so, the best conductors would be those who played fastest and there would be composers who wrote only finales. People would go to concerts just to hear one crashing chord, because that’s the end! Say, when dancing, you don’t aim at a particular spot in the room; that’s where you should arrive. The whole point of the dancing is the dance." - Alan Watts
@orroz1
14 күн бұрын
@@ripvanwando Dont' bore us, get to the chorus :)
@alazarbisrat1978
12 күн бұрын
@@ripvanwando it's also to build up the end, if it was by itself then there'd be nothing to it, you need a full experience that culminates into a peak and an end, a rising action for the peak and a proper closing for the whole thing. do you think those people in the experiments would like to experience the lesser pain at the end with no reason or nothing to compare it to?
The Game of Throne and Breaking Bad part did ring a bell to me… That’s right that I have a bad memory of the whole serie of GoT because of the 2 last seasons and I don’t want to see it again, even though the first 6 seasons were a master piece… And still I have a great memory of Breaking Bad and have no problem seeing again and again, because it was a master piece from the begining to the end… Probably watched it 6 times, for 2 times for GoT… The memory of an experience do play a lot more than the experience itself. Same thing with the pregnancy for women, the labor is really hard and painful, but yet the mind keep the memory has something not so bad, in order for women to be able to want to be pregnant again… Truly amazing :)
Appling this to my life will likely make it more enjoyable, thank you!!
07:14 - Regarding the perception of randomness, a tell-tell sign that something is not random is that there are no repetitions in a sequence. Repetition statistics are used in detecting false randomness during cryptanalysis. As a general rule of thumb, the more random something appears to a human, the less likely it actually is random.
@hyrog7795
15 күн бұрын
I thunk internally we don't evaluate the odds of 000111 vs 01101110, we evaluate the odds of something seemingly looking artificial vs something seemingly looking chaotic. Technically a bunch of atoms are equally likely to produce a chair than to produce a specific blob, but the odds of the thing looking like a blob are much higher than it looking lke a chair. Something to do with entropy.
@DawgFL
15 күн бұрын
Unfortunately because of randomness this also doesn't apply. You can't just look at something and think "a human probably didnt do that" and then evaluate it's randomness higher.
@ttt5020
15 күн бұрын
'Tell-tale' is the term. as in, it's a sign that tells a tale/story. Circles under someone's eyes tell the story(tale) of a sleepless night. They're a tell-tale sign of insomnia! Get it?
@hobrin4242
15 күн бұрын
yeah. I was forging a study that I supposedly conducted for a high school math teacher - I didn't know whether or not to put in many patterns or to avoid it and thus make it less random.
@user-ox1fr6wc4o
15 күн бұрын
Surat No. 2 Ayat NO. 28 How can you be ungrateful to Allah Who bestowed life upon you when you were lifeless then He will cause you to die and will again bring you back to life so that you will be returned to Him. Surat No. 52 Ayat NO. 35 35 Were they created out of nothing, or are they their own creators? Surat No. 52 Ayat NO. 36 36 Did they create the heavens and the earth? No! They have no
For everyone pointing out that 7/12 might not be statistically significant: If the goal was 50% you are right. But the goal is actually 0% because why would _anyone_ prefer more pain? Even 3/12 would be strange!
@moos5221
15 күн бұрын
Problem is that it's technically not more pain but it's on average less pain but for a longer duration.
@empathy800
15 күн бұрын
Actually, the cold temperature was the same for both experiments during the first few minutes. However, the second experiment lasted ten seconds longer with less discomfort from warmer water.. The subjects preferred the second longer experiment because its ending yielded less discomfort (even though it was ten seconds longer). In other words, it is not so much the time of pleasure or displeasure of an event, but the perception of the event at the end. Thus, our experience at the conclusion of an event will shape our perception of the overall event - the recency bias effect @moos5221
@Mathijs_A
15 күн бұрын
@@moos5221it is more pain. You experience the same, and then some extra pain
@moos5221
15 күн бұрын
@@empathy800 yeah, that's already been said in the video, but thanks for the recap i guess.
@moos5221
15 күн бұрын
@@Mathijs_A and that's where i disagree. if the water was colder for the same amount of time or if electrical current was added then i'd say it's more pain. but when it's just longer then it's the same pain just for a longer duration and when for the extra duration it's less pain then before then it's on average less pain but over a longer duration.
Everyone must choose one of two pains: The pain of discipline or the pain of regret.
@chikuwa_2564
13 күн бұрын
I have no regrets. The fate of everything was determined at the Big Bang. And I did my best to make decisions for myself with limited information
@bennyboy5949
13 күн бұрын
@@chikuwa_2564 why are you replying to a bot
@Nick-vs5hl
13 күн бұрын
@@chikuwa_2564 untrue
@zebinandrews5742
13 күн бұрын
On what basis, sir? Where are your sources? Your evidence? @@Nick-vs5hl
@zebinandrews5742
13 күн бұрын
@@bennyboy5949at least it's more enlightened than you lmao
1:44, This was very clever. Ever since i saw that video about 37, i just keep finding it everywhere now
@alexjustalex_
3 күн бұрын
The bank teller working at Bank 37 too
The part about the eggplant being a berry and still being cooked as a vegetable reminded of that bit that goes: Knowledge is knowing tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad
@ariesearthdragon
15 күн бұрын
If it's common for pizzas to be eaten with chopped pineapples on them, fruit salads can be made with sliced grape tomatoes.
@uninspired3583
15 күн бұрын
So knowledge is knowing a thing, and wisdom is also knowing a thing.
@aidan5715
15 күн бұрын
@@uninspired3583another way to look at it would be the knowledge is knowing a thing but wisdom is understanding when to use the application of that thing. Often they go hand in hand, however on the example stated above it’s probably more wise not to include tomatoes in your fruit salad (even if they are a fruit).
@uninspired3583
14 күн бұрын
@aidan5715 you've just substituted knowing for understanding here though. Wisdom seems to be a particular kind of knowledge. You can know things without being wise, but you can't be wise without knowledge. "Wisdom" with the absence of knowledge is just lucky.
@plackt
14 күн бұрын
@@uninspired3583yeah, you missed the more important addition of “understanding *when*…” So knowledge is knowing the difference between your and you’re. Wisdom is knowing not to point out the mistake in the middle of someone’s presentation (or something, I don’t know).
I also tend to prefer more pain, especially on the weekends
@junba1810
15 күн бұрын
Do you play League of Legends perhaps?
@The-Caged-King
15 күн бұрын
@@junba1810 no… it’s rainbow six siege…
@petergao96
15 күн бұрын
@@The-Caged-King yikes, I'm praying for you dude
@The-Caged-King
15 күн бұрын
@@petergao96 if god could help me… he would have done so 2000 hours ago…
@SBImNotWritingMyNameHere
15 күн бұрын
@@The-Caged-King May God bless your soul
"Less more often". This is what the self teaches. Live in the moment and be prepared to move to each new moment without expectation.
The best channel!!! Please support Veritasium, he deserves more recognition for the work he is putting into those so interesting, educational videos... Imagine how much his content is going to change for the better, if more people learn about him. Thank you for your videos, you're awesome!
"Only, I know you love pain. Pain reminds you the joy you felt was real." - Niander Wallace
@user-ox1fr6wc4o
15 күн бұрын
Surat No. 2 Ayat NO. 28 How can you be ungrateful to Allah Who bestowed life upon you when you were lifeless then He will cause you to die and will again bring you back to life so that you will be returned to Him. Surat No. 52 Ayat NO. 35 35 Were they created out of nothing, or are they their own creators? Surat No. 52 Ayat NO. 36 36 Did they create the heavens and the earth? No! They have no
@ryanspence5831
13 күн бұрын
I disagree. Remembering a past joy that is irrecoverable is highly unpleasant. Remembering being in love with someone who left you is one of the most unfavorable experiences that most people can recollect.
"Duration Neglect" - I've never heard of that phenomenon, but now that I have, I can recall *MANY* situations where this came in to play. My wife isn't a big fan of long trips, but loves "being at places." A couple weeks ago, we did a relatively short road trip - 3 hours to where we'd spend a weekend. last year, we did a *LONG* road trip - multiple days each way to reach where we'd spend a couple weeks. In both cases, during the driving, she hated it. A couple hours into the drive, "why are we going so far.?.?" - but after just a couple hours at the destination, the length of the drive was totally worth it to her.
@janisir4529
15 күн бұрын
Can't relate, I could name multiple vacations where the main thing that sticks out is how much we needed to travel to get to places. Also I hate flying, airports are basically hell on Earth.
Here before the thumbnail change, back after it changed again. 11:53 - it makes sense though. If you quantify her life by Great (5 points), Good (4 points), Okay (3 points), Meh (2 Points), and Bad (1 point) (living inherently preventing a 0). Then 30 Great Years will always average out higher than 30 Great and 5 Good. The question becomes can we convince the brain to judge total score instead of average.
The peak of this video is enough for me to come back.
'The Linda Problem' has been widely criticized, and in my view rightly so. See, for example 'The Problem With The Linda Problem' by Eric Robert Morse, which illustrates exactly why I felt it was a poorly constructed experiment.
@raymondqiu8202
15 күн бұрын
Interesting, commenting to remember this
@geoffdavids7647
15 күн бұрын
Yep, my feeling is that the first choice, of "bank teller" is interpreted as "bank teller and not feminist" due to the phrasing of the question and the unusual-ness of the format. Who asks a question where one option is completely a subset of the other, in normal life? Questions normally are used to differentiate between two separate things, and if one option gives you a thing the other option wont unless clearly explained otherwise.
@Hinotori_joj
15 күн бұрын
Yeah, when he said it, i thought the second option, because after i heard it, I assumed that the first meant "she's a bank teller (and NOT part of the movement)". While that's an interesting assumption in itself, I don't feel like it was at all because of my mental image of feminism, and much more about how we understand speech and language. (It's very rare that somebody gives you two options that not only aren't mutually exclusive, but one of them entirely includes the other, which I think is why I assumed that wasn't the case). Oh, the article you mentioned says exactly that. Nice.
@joshcryer
15 күн бұрын
@geoffdavids7647 yeah it should be phrased "a bank teller who has a variety of opinions"
People tend to prefer a challenge, but it doesn't need to be painful to be challenging. People also tend to mistake relief for pleasure.
@Channel7331
15 күн бұрын
Mistake is the wrong word. Relief can be extremely pleasurable
@georgekasmer5095
15 күн бұрын
Your concept of pleasure is incomplete @@Channel7331
@Inklenation
15 күн бұрын
As a chronic pain sufferer… I find it extremely pleasurable to feel relief of the pain…
@yaush_
15 күн бұрын
@@Channel7331this actually has research behind it. Relief is pleasure but it only lasts for an extremely short time
@tichu7
15 күн бұрын
@@Channel7331People frantically looking for a toilet would agree.
Thanks for putting out a great video that actually goes over a lot of terms and topics that are covered on the MCAT for the psychology/sociology section. I know that was not your intention but it was fantastic for covering experimental design, test criterion (comparing your test to another already established experiment), the experiencing self verses the remembering self. and several more topics that I've been trying to study and get down for my MCAT test that I'll be taking on august 2nd. That's a really nice latent function of a fascinating science video (or was it the intended function, to teach and familiarize several relevant terms to the topic at hand) I've got more studying to do...
An issue I take with the representativeness heuristic is the set up implies set A and not set B (I know this isn’t what’s technically stated but still). Other set ups I’ve seen also have similar issues. For example, the main symptoms of a severe disease are cough, muscle spasms and blotches in vision. A patient has this disease. You ask a doctor what is more likely, that they have a cough or that they have a cough and blotches in vision. Again the first set up _implies_ no blotches and is also the wrong question to ask a doctor. The right question to ask is given the symptoms, what is the probability of this severe disease? And it’s much higher in the latter case As for the eggplant berry thing- I think that’s just a practical choice no? “Would you like some berries with your yoghurt” “Well hold on now, what berries? Literally anything small and sweet or a big wet needs to be cooked zucchini looking thing?”
I remember this one study where people were put in a room for fifteen minutes and had the option to wait out the time doing nothing, or shock themselves, and a surprising amount of people chose the shock. I haven’t watched the video yet so I don’t know if this is relevant to it, but it is certainly an interesting study. Edit: After doing a bit of skimming through the video, I was unable to find a reference to this study. However, I realized that Veritasium did a whole video about boredom a while back, and that actually is where I learned of the study. It’s all coming full circle lol.
@daanstrik4293
15 күн бұрын
Boredom is the greatest agony, and the greatest motivator. Love and fear pale in comparison to boredoms ability to spur us into action
@brainflash1
15 күн бұрын
That's just boredom dude.
@a_skellington
15 күн бұрын
Thats a different experiment for a different concept to the one in this video, that experiment explored how the brain prefers bad stimulus to no stimulus at all in certain situations. This experiment is about how the duration of an event is not remembered, rather the key moments of it, the average experience and the end, meaning a longer duration of pain will be remebered more fondly, so long as there is the slightest drop in pain by the end, which changes the average experience and the end, and provides a key moment of noticing a decrease in pain.
@aoifedeborha2420
15 күн бұрын
Pretty sure Vsauce had a MindField video on that too 😂
@Mortablunt
15 күн бұрын
All that’s doing is reminding me of the prehistoric SpongeBob scene where primitive SpongeBob and Patrick ancestors pass a jellyfish back-and-forth and keep getting stung.
On the topic of Linda the potential feminist bank-teller: I think the reason that people may get that question wrong is because we mentally fill in a gap that isn't actually there. Our brains interpret the question as "Which is more likely: A) Linda is a bank teller (and not a feminist) or B) Linda is a bank teller and a feminist. The part in parentheses was never actually said, but the framing of the question leads us to expect it and that's the question people answer before thinking about it.
@ledviper9
15 күн бұрын
exactly what I thought as well!
@neonmarblerust
15 күн бұрын
Yes, these results are more about how the words are being used than any lived experience. People are really bad at describing things like this. Especially someone who just went through a colonoscopy.
@hellomate639
15 күн бұрын
I commented on this before reading your comment. Yes, the question frames it like its mutually exclusive.
@all_so_frivolous
15 күн бұрын
No this is definitely not it. The original version of the experiment actually didn't involve both options but had a more convoluted way to compare them (If I recall correctly half the participants were shown "bank teller" , half were shown "feminist bank teller", and all were shown a common third option and compared the difference with the common answer). The experiment mentioned here is actually a follow up, which they only made because they effect was so strong they wanted to see if it generalizes even when shown both options.
@galoomba5559
15 күн бұрын
@@all_so_frivolous That makes so much more sense
Loved the end!
This explains why people prefer to leave a work at present moment to avoid discomfort and later feel remorse for not doing it at that moment .
"Vegetable" is not a classification in biology; it is more of a category of food that contains a wide selection of parts from plants, including roots (like carrots), stems (like celery), leaves (like spinach), flowers (like broccoli), seeds (like peas), fruits (like tomatoes and cucumbers), and berries (like bell peppers and eggplants).
@ChrisLuttrell
15 күн бұрын
I heard it was a term from marketing, nothing to do with biology at all.
@albertwaters6436
15 күн бұрын
I’m reading the comments while watching the video and wondering how veggies are going to fit into it haha
@dhu2056
15 күн бұрын
Derek got it compeletely wrong there. Berry just has a definition in botany separate from colloquial usage. People have been saying the word "berry" long before scientists aribtrarily chose that term to refer to a part of a plant.
@d3fau1thmph
15 күн бұрын
Vegetables are plants of which the non-fruit parts are edible (like onion),
@dhu2056
15 күн бұрын
@@d3fau1thmph So you're implying that pumpkin is a vegetable because the leaves are edible. Assuming you meant "edible parts of a plant that isn't a fruit," then that is also wrong. Nobody calls cinnamon a vegetable.
The whole berry thing has to do with two vernaculars that use the same words and it is confusing. In the scientific vernacular, berries are something specific that has to do with the plants reproduction, in the culinary vernacular berries are something specific that has to do with their culinary use and flavour profile. Also in the science vernacular, vegetable is a property denoting that something is edible, but in culinary vernacular it is a type of thing that is categorised by it's use in cuisine. A tomato is a vegetable both culinarily and scientifically, but only in science is it a fruit, a berry, and a vegetable.
@twosmartfouryou2537
15 күн бұрын
exactly, I was confused cause it seems like those examples were completely unrelated to anything else
@Puzzlesocks
15 күн бұрын
+1 for a guy who understands that words have multiple meanings that depend on their context. Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is not putting a tomato in a fruit salad.
@arronalt
15 күн бұрын
yeah using that as an example in the video annoyed me a lot
@danielalvesldiniz
15 күн бұрын
EXACTLY. in my native language there's not even a causal, non scientific word for "berry"
@kikiTHEalien
15 күн бұрын
"Vegetable" is not a scientific term
Thanks, I learnt something new again !!
Just read the book "thinking, fast and slow" and so happy to see this video that reflects one of the lessons
I love the subtle nod to the number 37
@ENDERLEGEND26
13 күн бұрын
What where i didnt notice
@Diablo0
12 күн бұрын
@@ENDERLEGEND26 8:15
@ENDERLEGEND26
12 күн бұрын
@@Diablo0 ah yes the chalkboard.. damn yall r keen
As someone in chronic pain, I don't prefer pain at all. But if your having pain in a part of your body, applying worse pain in another spot will make the original pain magically disappear. Your brain generally only registers the larger pain input. Say you burn your hand on the rack in the oven while pulling out that pizza. You could stomp on a toe and the pain on your hand will no longer be an issue, as long as the toe pain is greater. However, when the pain in your toe fades, the burn pain will return.
@TooTallForPony
14 күн бұрын
Reminds me of a joke my high school math teacher said: "Why do you keep hitting your head against the wall?" "Because it feels good when I stop."
@funsized924
14 күн бұрын
agreed as a migraine sufferer. Before I started taking prescription medication for it, the only thing I could do sometimes was bite the crap out of my arms, hands, and feet just so my brain could focus on pain somewhere else
@cygnustsp
14 күн бұрын
That's why Dr House intentionally broke his finger because he couldn't take pain meds for his leg
@legendaxicad._
14 күн бұрын
I agree, and as a fellow with chronic pain (migraines, Wilson's disease, Pectus Excavatum also known as palpitations (basically) ), though I may not be able to share your pain or problems, the best and most important is as Derek said at the end, having a peak and a good end. I think we all need more and more joyous / memorable lives, especially now.
@legendaxicad._
14 күн бұрын
@@funsized924Same. Sometimes, I remember a fellow friend of mine in elementary and middle school who may or may not had migraines with me, banged our heads on anything, mostly walls even competing how hard we would be able to do it...
Another learning video, thanks
I find it very funny that everyone is talking about the ending. It’s what they remember most. A literal example of what the whole video was about lol
The "Bank 37" on the wall and ground was a nice touch. :)
@kokoska9474
15 күн бұрын
Yeah I also saw that and was looking for a comment mentioning it!
@jankiprasadsoni6793
15 күн бұрын
A bot copied your comment
@dirtspritestuff5850
15 күн бұрын
37 will show up EVERYWHERE now, won't it
@plumper303
15 күн бұрын
@@jankiprasadsoni6793 thanks for the info lol
I feel the Linda experiment has a massive flaw. The way language works, people may assume that the lack of explicitly stating Linda is a feminist in option one, vs the explicit statement in option 2, implicitly means that option actually is "Linda is a bank teller AND NOT a feminist". Yes, strictly speaking, that is not included in the statement, but language is often about interpretation and implicit meaning (see the classic "Asbestos free cereal"), and I for one, instinctively arrived at that interpretation. And given Linda's background, when choosing between "Linda is a bank teller and not a feminist" vs. "Linda is a bank teller and a feminist", the latter is clearly more likely. If you were to rephrase the two options as "1: Linda is a bank teller, and may or may not be active in the feminist movement" and "2: Linda is a bank teller and is active in the feminist movement", I would very much suspect that most people correctly pick option 1 as more likely. At the very least, I'd argue that such a phrasing would be necessary to remove the ambiguity from this experiment. In my mind, this experiment is more demonstrating the interpretation of language, and less some flawed understanding of statistics. This flaw is also literally IN the Gould quote. He says "She can't JUST be a bank teller". He is implicitly assuming that the bank teller option means Linda is JUST a bank teller and not a feminist.
@CodePsy-2001
13 күн бұрын
The need for additional expression to remove ambiguity proves the representation bias in itself. Language reflects people's thinking.
Just a thought: Hypothetically, if there were people with, say, 'good memories' who can remember the middle pleasant parts (between the start and ending) more 'fondly' than the rest of those who does not have 'good memories'. Would how the ending was 'carried out' (or executed) have a lesser impact on the overall experience for those said people with 'good memories'. An example similar to Jen from me would be this- You have a fulfilling and fun school time. You meet and make friends with people who change your life for the better, and to them by you. Your school is a great place with not only good friends but also good teachers whom you share those memories. As all of you hope to end your school years before going your separate ways with a bang, pandemic hits on a global scale. You haven't met anyone from school, too busy to connect properly because you and everyone else is adjusting to post-pandemic lifestyle. This goes on for three years and now looking back, how would you rate your school experience? Hope this was understandable, thanks.
I feel lik everyone watched the ad to the end lol great vid as always, interesting phenomena and applying it irl im hoping will be positive it sounds less like rewarding to build incentive and more like warping the image of something, new hidden tech for studying wth
“Time interval is a strange and contradictory matter in the mind. It would be reasonable to suppose that a routine time or an eventless time would seem interminable. It should be so, but it is not. It is the dull eventless times that have no duration whatever. A time splashed with interest, wounded with tragedy, crevassed with joy - that's the time that seems long in the memory. And this is right when you think about it. Eventlessness has no posts to drape duration on. From nothing to nothing is no time at all.” John Steinbeck - East of Eden
stepping on a lego hurt me more than when i cracked my head open on concrete
@Deletirium
15 күн бұрын
That makes total sense, actually.
@11alekon
15 күн бұрын
I feel like I am the only one who doesn't find stepping on Lego painful - it's unfortunate for sure but not painful
@muckyesyesindisguise3854
15 күн бұрын
When did adrenaline get a keyboard?
@BenjaminBjornsen
15 күн бұрын
Hit by car, hospital, court and recovery was = holy crap lvl pain,1 week after I remembered I was starting school in 2 months = kill me now! I can"t take it
@Spartanxxzachxx
15 күн бұрын
Bro stepping on Legos sucks so much. The moment my foot steps down on 1 I look like my legs turned to jelly and I hit the floor in the most annoying pain😂😂😂😂
I'm so glad I found this channel.
Brilliant!
I love this study. We remember the ending and peak experience more than the average experience or duration. Such a lesson in human psyche.
That Game of Thrones shade was hilarious!
commercials are so sweet and relaxing, so they were put into the final part of the video.
I went for repairing my broken watch, the repair person kept me waited for like one hour and that whole hour I kept cursing him but at the very last moment I got it repaired by him the same perspective changed I was pleasant to see my watch repaired and never remembered the pain of one hour. It's true and i realized only after watching this video.
The thumbnail on this is Gold Level..
Veritasium out here lookin’ for the kwisatz haderach… “I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.” -Paul Atreides
@IllidanS4
15 күн бұрын
Lisan al Gaib!
@timhaldane7588
15 күн бұрын
"Put your hand in the bucket."
@shabadrandhawa3829
15 күн бұрын
@@timhaldane7588 "what's in the bucket/box?"
@winstonsmith6065
15 күн бұрын
@@shabadrandhawa3829 The box contains pain… Will you face your fear and the dreaded Gom Jabbar? Perhaps you are the one we have been waiting for… are you the Voice from the Outer World?
@michaelmurdock4607
15 күн бұрын
I get microblisters on my hands - a type of eczema. I will give myself 1st degree burns, practically tattoo myself with a sewing needle, or freeze them until they can't move because the new pain wipes out the first pain and is interpreted as relief by my brain. So, yeah, bring on the pain.
Thats actually crazy lol! I kinda want to do this experiment now...
I noticed this method used in various tv shows where theres a small peak in the middle of the episode after that it's just boring but the end makes you excited to watch another episode crazy how the mind works
Pop-psychology checklist: - Sounds surprising- Check - Effect sizes are relatively small- Check - Sample sizes with minimal- Check Given that Derek himself made a video about the replication crisis, I'm quite impressed his radar isn't jumping like crazy with this...
@LunaBeth97
15 күн бұрын
Yeah there's a few red flags in the studies he mentioned just from how he described them. The one that stood out to me was the story of the woman with 5 years extra life. Like it's clearly less favourable because, if she was in a car accident, we associate that recovery with suffering so they'd really have to clarify the quality of life to the participants. Then did they also test the responses if those 5 worse years weren't just at the end of her life. I haven't checked the source but it's still good to question these things.
@Ironically-Sarcastic
15 күн бұрын
This is an almost pointless comment on a pop-psychology KZread channel's video.
@GrabnarMyers
15 күн бұрын
@@Ironically-Sarcasticnot really. Some of us like me have just realized on this video hes more into pseudoscience than real science. For literal years I thought his word was simply fact and it genuinely took until THIS video for me to realize the error in thinking that about anyone. You never know who will read your comment and the chain-reaction it could have to fight misinformation.
@filipe.estima
15 күн бұрын
@@GrabnarMyers You mean he's on KZread solely for entertainment of people, not enlightenment?
@eulefranz944
15 күн бұрын
N=32 kekw like bro what is this
The current thumbnail is too good! hahaha
@doggomir
15 күн бұрын
He went from the "I'm bad at making thumbnails" video a few years ago to "I crafted the perfect thumbnail"
@LuisGustavoBD
15 күн бұрын
Say what you will about Veritasium videos, but you gotta give it to Derek: the man knows how to make a proper thumbnail.
Veritasium changing the thumbnail for the 10th time:
I love the little reference to the video about the number 37 on the walls of the bank in the Linda problem, it's a nice detail
Randomness doesn't just refer to mathematical randomness it can also refer to what ww percieve as a chaotic organization as opposed to an ordered one. Saying that boy, girl, boy, girl, boy, girl is more random is not a "mistake" unless you specify that you are talking about liklihood of occurring and not chaos.
@redjr242
15 күн бұрын
I think the reason is it has higher entropy. People see the second configuration as "mixed together", for which many sequences could represent, rather than just the sequence given. Whereas they see "boys and girls separated" for the first, which fewer sequences represent, so seems less likely.
@LuisGustavoBD
15 күн бұрын
True, that. But then again, I imagine that if one of these researchers were to take it's time to properly present the question in a way that it is clear and unambiguous to the subject, then they wouldn't observe the results that they were after :P
Cute dog playing with flowers is at 15:28..... followed by 90s of sponsored content! If I watch the sponsored content then this video is not 'optimized for the end', and I'll have an unconciousably less favourable impressions of the video as a whole. Fortunately I didn't watch the sponsored ad and am therefore more motivated to "like" the video.
@Mattkael
15 күн бұрын
This guy got the message.
Enjoying the experience 10% more with the tip left in for 3 minutes is *WILD* 😂
It was helpful, to understand our minds and painful memories
5:10 THAT ESCALLATED QUICKLY.
Just recently I finished dr. Kahnemans book ‘thinking fast and slow’ and I recognised this experiment. Very interesting book! It’s a mix between economics and psychology for those who are interested
Masterpiece!
I had my first day at work exceptional, made great efforts for learning AI-ML, India won just now, and before I sleep I see Veritasium's new upload in recommendations. God, Can this day get any better?
7/12 is just one person away from a perfect tie.
@harktischris
15 күн бұрын
yeah, i get what derek was trying to do, but the difference between 12 and 32 in terms of sample size is pretty significant, to the point where 7/12 can easily happen by just random chance (pretty sure the confidence intervals on that 58% are huge and overlap with 50%), so his small-scale recreation is not confidence-inspiring in terms of results. But 22/32 is quite a bit harder to do by random chance, but even then I think we can only accept it in combination with the other studies (videos) that showed similar effects.
@xmorgan1123x
15 күн бұрын
the options weren't equal though, one option was more painful than the other so even if 1/12 people chose the more painful one it would still be a question of why
@thisisnotdom
15 күн бұрын
@@harktischrisYeah I computed the confidence intervals out of interest. Essentially there's a 5% chance from the original study that the true value is less than or equal to 50%. So I'd be a bit skeptical unless other studies proved the same, and assuming their experimental procedure was very robust.
@Czeslaw_cn4tv
15 күн бұрын
Yes, but this was just a recreation for the sake of the video. The paper is what matters more in this case.
@p0pimp2004
15 күн бұрын
It's significant that most people didn't choose the less painful experience. The point is it shouldn't even be close to fifty fifty. The only people who should be choosing the more painful event are the masochists
I'm in my 30's, but when I was about 21, I realized there's a huge discrepancy in how I *remember* pain versus how I remember other things. I used to do a lot of dumb stunts or willingly go through crazy obstacles I knew would hurt, but only because once the pain was gone I couldn't truly recall how terrible it was. Like I remember when I tore my hamstring, it was the most painful, debilitating pain imaginable, yet I couldn't really articulate how that was different from breaking a rib (which had previously been what I thought was the most painful thing ever). This lead to me continuously putting myself through pain again & again, because the only pain that really mattered was in the moment. This is different from other areas of life though. Like I can try a food once & know I don't like celery, then I just don't eat it again. I don't continue to eat celery, think it's bad, forget it, then try again. Same thing with emotional experiences & relationships. I know what will make me happy, sad, mad, etc. and try to avoid the negative & pursue the positive. But when it came to pain, I can remember generalizations like "it hurt," or "it *REALLY* hurt," but in the moment that didn't mean much. I'd still do the stupid things that got me hurt, even though I'd swear in the moment "never do THAT thing again."
@mobeingmo
15 күн бұрын
+1 for the effort
@Channel7331
15 күн бұрын
Might just be a masochist
@raymondqiu8202
15 күн бұрын
Doesnt really make sense for most people. Most ppl if they tore a hamstring or broke bones wouldn't want to keep doing that coz not only does it hurt, it causes long term further pain which is actually detrimental to your health. I think most ppl would realise that and stop doing the activity
@Zantam70
15 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your insight, found it notable.
@erinm9445
15 күн бұрын
I think this is common, but it's common for emotional pain and various other kinds of physical and psychological discomfort as well. I'd say the fact that you don't experience this forgetting with emotional experiences or relationships is less common.
Wow, I really like this video!
I think it's the same reason why some people likes really hard games (soul's like , rougue like). You go through a really hard time and it's painfull to die again and again but in the end when you finally master the game and finish it, you get one of the best feeling ever you will never forget that memory.
you are really good at making this videos. I think it's not easy to be informative and entertaining at the same time. thanks Derek!