That pouncing Jaguar hood emblem is your first clue that you're about to get mauled financially by this vehicle.

@youdontknowme5969

14 күн бұрын

here kitty kitty 😼💸

@pclayton5063

14 күн бұрын

Almost as bad as BMW = Bring Money Withya or Breaks Me Weekly.

@tombob671

14 күн бұрын

​@@youdontknowme5969 his name is Claude R Ballz

@Vamk420

14 күн бұрын

@@pclayton5063 Breaks my wallet

@martinsvensson6884

14 күн бұрын

@@pclayton5063 You need to service your cars in the US lol.. They are not as simple made as others.

Tom Lenthal LTD is your man in the UK. Jag and LandRover / RangeRover specialist. If anyone has a source for parts, its him.

@mildmanneredthinkingman9323

14 күн бұрын

Pin this comment. Tom is the person to ask!

@andyand100

13 күн бұрын

Tom has you tube channel

@jackjackie7948

13 күн бұрын

100% u can get parts from the UK

@bghoody5665

12 күн бұрын

What about Swallows Racing in the UK? The guys at DriveTribe use them for their Jags.

@thesunreport

12 күн бұрын

David Manners at the jagspares website in the UK are also very good experts at spares for Jaguars from what I have seen.

Rounded headlights Jaguar XJs are probably the classiest and most elegant looking sedan of all time.

@paulrobert2249

14 күн бұрын

Definitely not

@rci-tf2zc

14 күн бұрын

and made of glass not plastic and wont fade.

@pauldavies6037

14 күн бұрын

100% all new cars are so ugly now

@jakelannetti3128

13 күн бұрын

They are truly beautiful. Always get a double look from me

@h7pubg

13 күн бұрын

@@paulrobert2249cope reebok brigade, you must think a japanese car with dozens of unnecessary angles and zero coherent design language is the pinnacle of automotive design

I’m a jaguar parts rep at a dealer in Kentucky I’ll look tomorrow when I get to work :)

@seeburg10

13 күн бұрын

What’s the verdict?

@ElloEllo12314

13 күн бұрын

Did you looked it up?

@blackdong4footwangnosucky

12 күн бұрын

@@ElloEllo12314he fart got

@tommycolangelo756

12 күн бұрын

👀

@Som09mer

11 күн бұрын

Any luck?

Takes a little research and sometimes common sense to keep these cars going. Someone quoted $700 to replace a sensor on top on the gas tank on my XJR. Did some research and found that the sensor was $20. Mechanic wanted to remove the fuel tank. I found that by just moving the carpet in the trunk, you could replace the sensor easily. So I fixed it for $20 and it took about 10 minutes max. Currently doing head gaskets and chains on my 2002 XKR.

@tik-tok

14 күн бұрын

yes, people should learn to google stuff first before running at mechanic. My 2004 XJ8 had a problem when gearbox gets stuck in Reverse, and you can't shift it to any gear, even in Neutral unless you remove Gearbox surrounding and physically press on the lever. Car simply does not move or start up if you turned off ignition because it is stuck in R. Apparently, under the car there is a transmission cable which is held by 2 screws and one loosens just falls off, all you have to do is to find that screw and put it back on and tighten them hard. Thats it, car is back to life. In case I did not have that simple info from Jaguar Forums I would cry about that my 30k Miles car's transmission just died and it would be towed to mechanic where gearbox would be taken out and depending on mechanic's ignorance I would get some insane prices to fix the problem which was only about one damn screw.

@EnthusiastCarHangar

14 күн бұрын

That’s great to hear. I think one of the problems is the mentally many mechanics have right off the bat with European cars. Too expensive, no parts, not worth fixing and dumb customer that only wanted a beautiful car. Sad.

@omarks

14 күн бұрын

@@EnthusiastCarHangar I have the rare last year '96 x305 XJ12. All the dealer is good for is fantastically expensive parts, non available part numbers and diagrams... some parts are available elsewhere but it's mostly using jagforums, jaglovers online and spending time in wrecking yards when there are cars there. If you own a car like this you have to be prepared to do everything yourself, from sourcing to wrenching. The great thing is all the workshop manuals are free online.

@throwback19841

14 күн бұрын

yeah the Jaguar forums are an amazing resource, I've learned to hit my jag with my brain and the community, not my wallet

@martinrowland2593

14 күн бұрын

@@omarks Did the same for my dads old range rover (forums) He was getting ripped off by mechanics that broke more than they fixed i would not trust them with a wheelbarrow Problem was they were unaware how useless they were

I've owned my 2001 XJR for about 15+ years. It still looks and runs great. Unlike many modern cars, if you can turn your own wrenches they are mostly easy to work on. I am not a professional mechanic but have been able to rebuild the entire suspension, the ABS box you open the plastic with a hole saw, there is one solder joint that goes bad, I replaced the top front strut plates in my driveway, it took me 15 minutes per side, I even did the upper belt tensioners following youtube videos. It is certainly not toyota quality, but it has never left me stranded. My Buick Terazza, bought new, was a much bigger money pit. My 2014 Panamera spent way more time in the shop than the XJR ever has. The Jag is fast, comfortable, and still turns heads. Yes, look out for rust and buy the very best one you can find, but good luck finding one in pristine condition for even close to what the Wizard says they go for.

@Davidm1956

10 күн бұрын

100% if you work on your own car and do regular maintenance you can afford to run all sorts of exotics - even Rollers.

@TheSaturnV

10 күн бұрын

Yeah, with some basic skills and interweb forums you really can keep these beautiful machines goin.

@fastinradfordable

2 күн бұрын

15 min per side MY ASS I find most who are NOT mechanics don’t have a clear view of how much time it takes. You can’t even lay out all the tools and put ‘em away in 15min

This is available from Ashwood Jag Parts UK instock for £9.15 approx $11.51 the oem part number is LHE 1602AA if this is not the correct one please tell me the oem part number of the one you require. I can buy one and airmail it to you.

@bountykilla9153

14 күн бұрын

nice!

@sinmogen

14 күн бұрын

£300-£400 dollars over there that's comical haha

@bradhaines3142

14 күн бұрын

@@sinmogen thats how a lot of european cars are for us. BMW for you guys is like GM for us

@Barbarapape

14 күн бұрын

@@sinmogen This is how the dealers make huge profits. The markup on spares is obscene, if you bought the same part from a Jaguar dealer in the UK it would be vastly more expensive, yet the parts are made in the same factory.

@sinmogen

14 күн бұрын

@@bradhaines3142 BMW parts are still pretty expensive in the UK sadly, our equivalent of GM affordability would probably be something like vauxhall which I think is GM owned anyway

I just put my 2003 XJR to rest. 21 yrs old....300,000+ miles. Miss her already.

@justanothertroll9476

8 күн бұрын

That's about a Guinness book of records for a Jag, I had an 01 it lasted exactly 100,488 miles and the transmission took a crap that was an 09 wound up selling the car for parts as at that time The book value wasn't worth the repair

So glad I own 2 NA V-6 Lexus's. At 60 I'll never buy another car again and keep mine maintained since The Car Care Nut is just up the road from me. Why people don't do simple research on a car like a Jag is beyond me. I spent about a year researching Lexus before I bit the bullet. I hung out on Lexus forums looking for patterns of problem owners were having with the models I own. Best cars I've ever owned in my life!

These are beautiful cars! My grandfather just sold his 2003 XJ8 that he purchased new. We stressed to everyone that came to look at it that you can’t just take these cars anywhere for service and it will cost you to maintenance them. As for me, I don’t mind spending more than a car is worth when it comes to maintenance and repairs as long as I enjoy driving the car. I do the same with my 2012 Cadillac CTS that I purchased new. It doesn’t have a lot of miles on it, I enjoy driving it, and continue to maintenance it no matter the cost. At least until I’m ready to move onto another vehicle. So if you love your car, I say keep it going as long as you can or want.

@omarvasquez6851

13 күн бұрын

Thanks

@pwatom22

9 күн бұрын

That's my philosophy with my land Rovers

@henrikbragge

9 күн бұрын

If you maintain your Jag and it’s in mint condition, you’ll get at least double the price compared to a “normal” one 🤙🏻

@davidmann4533

3 күн бұрын

Rather have a corvette

@lances3426

3 күн бұрын

@@davidmann4533 I like corvettes also. Sold the last one I had a little over a year ago. I didn’t drive it much, but the two I have owned were a lot of fun.

This style is just timeless

By the year 2002, Jaguar already updated the tensioners and guides, they should be good to go, some of the 2001 models were already updated, you got to by by the production date.

@stevethemechanic8099

14 күн бұрын

Ya

@throwback19841

14 күн бұрын

engines produced after august 13th 2001 iirc have gen 3 (fixed) tensioners. My 2002 XKR has an engine built Aug 1st 2001.you have to check the engine build date, not the vehicle. build. date or year.

@rci-tf2zc

14 күн бұрын

yep just replied that before i saw your post.

@computerwiz4

13 күн бұрын

Easiest way (if you're not steadfast on an X308) is to just avoid the 4.0s altogether and go with an X350 or X358. Every 4.2 and 4.4 has the revised timing components in addition to making more power and torque due to the higher displacement.

@DDbyVV

8 күн бұрын

First of all those chain tensioners are good. The problem was corrected for the 2002 model. Those strut mounts were available to press out the bushing and not replace the whole plate. Also it takes 10 minutes to replace that plate. You are making it sound way worse. Too much doom and gloom man! They are fantastic vehicles. I was a Jaguar tech and have owned 2 of them.

Your customer should send me this jag. Not only is it totally worth repairing but it's not that big of a deal to do any of this stuff. Never ceases to surprise me how big a deal other shops make out of this era of Jag. Not only are they easy to fix but a significant number of the parts were on dozens of different models. If you are a specialist, you should know how to cross those parts over. Also we all know not to call the dealer or Worldpac for a JLR product from the 90s or 2000s unless you want to be lied to or sold garbage

@piercehawke8021

14 күн бұрын

The biggest deal breaker for many folks is the huge amount of visible rust

I had a 2000 Jag XK8 4.0 convertible, and I LOVED it, did the work on it myself. It is the most beautiful car in the world, and I drove it quite far without ever being stranded. Oh, how I miss that beautiful car, the engine was so smooth and the power oozed from it; think of going fast, and it went fast almost before you could decide to go fast! But, I have a feeling that at this point in time that I would no longer (post-covid) be able afford the parts anyway, even doing my own work. The upper tensioners were very easy to replace, I didn't bother to do the lower tensioners and primary timing chain, which would have been a lot more work, and the uppers were easy to replace using new camshaft split-chains (like, I understand, typically used on racing motorcycles). Had to replace the ignition coils as they began to fail one-at-a-time, but found cheap and working replacements on eBay. Had a few ABS wheel sensors fail, one was an easy and simple wiring issue, the other was a bad wheel sensor that I replaced with a cheap used unit found on eBay. Ohhhh, I miss that car so much. But I'm getting too old to do car work anymore, so my current and future lives will likely be populated by Hondas and Toyotas. Sad, but, that's life.

It's abundantly clear that you really know these vehicles - your customers are lucky because at least half the battle of maintaining one of these is to find someone who knows what he's doing. Very informative!!

Jaguars often suffer from the problem of getting sold down the market quickly and not getting properly looked after as people buy them who can't afford to maintain them

@kaitiakiheke9174

5 күн бұрын

Who can

@graemegaerth14

3 күн бұрын

The real inconvenient truth

I just bought an F-type R and I love it. It only has 12K miles now and I don't care what it costs to maintain in the future. I'm keeping it as long as I am still able to drive.❤

Since discovering PDR a few years ago a few dents don't scare me like they used to. Those guys work magic.

@dagamer667

14 күн бұрын

Dents are the least of that Jag's problems.

@johnmichaelkarma

14 күн бұрын

@@dagamer667 A decent shade tree mechanic could do a timing chain and other nuts n bolts repairs. That takes care of 75% of the costs.

@2DogsVlogs

13 күн бұрын

Can you PDR aluminium? Didn't think you could pull these dents out, well that was 20 years ago.

A friend of mine needed the entire front suspension replaced on his 2001(?) Jag XKR roadster. The dealer had to get the parts from England. It took 6 months. The good news was that the dealer gave him a new Jag to drive while his roadster was in the shop.

@abarratt8869

13 күн бұрын

I like reports like this. Ok, so terrible service brought about by others not being especially quick off the mark. But a fantastic response by the dealer.

Cheap luxury cars are the most expensive.

@Schlipperschlopper

14 күн бұрын

not if you install a Chevy Small block!

@LittleAnastasia...

14 күн бұрын

Ask jrgoes how that went with his rolls ​@@Schlipperschlopper

@romanpolak3239

14 күн бұрын

Nah, they are the most expensive when new. Depreciated ones surely are not as cheap as they may seem, but nowhere near the original price.

@shadowdog500

14 күн бұрын

Reminds me of the old quote that few things are more expensive than a free boat!

@uncletoby-

13 күн бұрын

That’s why they’re cheap.

I have a 2005 XJ8 L with 150,000 miles. It needs the upper control arms replaced. Also, I need to replace the alternator. I love watching your videos. They have taught me a lot about working on cars like this. There may be other items I need to address, but I'll never get rid of this car. My wife got this for me as a birthday present. The next month, I was diagnosed with leukemia. It has seen me to the doctor and chemo for a few years. Couldn't imagine parting with it.

We have a 1952 Jaguar XK120 FHC coupe that belonged to my father-in-law, he left us the car when he passed in 2020 at age 92. It is a gorgeous car and has had a good "daily driver" restoration done, and powertrain is all fresh. It is also fun to drive and moves right out even with a 3.4L inline 6 engine. This car is fairly simple to work on(except pulling cams to set valve lash)and runs like a watch. Like all Jags, it has its own quirks(positive ground?)and you get used to them. It's just the nature of the beast, so to speak. Newer Jags like this one featured in this video are gorgeous cars, but the powertrain is not very reliable and are obviously expensive to repair. I'd say this particular car would be a good candidate for an LS engine swap......! Thanks Wizard for this video!

@paulwebber

12 күн бұрын

Fairly simple job to switch to negative earth. Reverse connections on polarity sensitive parts like ammeter and coil. Change radio for a negative earth unit. Reverse battery connections, flash regulator contacts and the generator is repolarised. Did it on my old MKII Jag and it took about an hour.

The 4.0 litee timing chain issues were addressed starting in late 2000 with updated parts. The 2003 4.2 litre was totally fixed. So if you look into a 1997 - 2002 Jag 4.0, find out about the updated parts.

I have a 2001 XK8 coupe, now almost at 70K miles. Work to replace the chain tensioners, replace the water pump, etc, was right about $3K (this was three years ago), and there were other fiddly things, some that I was able to tackle myself. Still delighted with the car, it's beautiful and a pleasure to drive. The 'Rs of that era didn't have air suspension but they did come with CATS (get it, CATS!) or Computer Active Technology Suspension. Parts are more expensive and harder to get, so if it fails it's cheaper to replace it with the non-CATS setup of the XK8/XJ8. And I don't know why the Wizard continues to complain about the hood clearance when it's well known (and been in comments on other Jag vids) that the hood can be easily placed in full upright service position by disconnecting the hood struts.

@marial8235

14 күн бұрын

I have a xk8 with the 4.2 which has been very reliable and the timing chain tensioners were fixed for the 4.2.

@h7pubg

13 күн бұрын

@@marial8235the 4.2 is extremely reliable and a great car.

@ResilientFreedom

13 күн бұрын

I agree, the hood isn't a problem at all. I've done the timing chain job on three of the x308's all with the bonnet still attached.

@ResilientFreedom

13 күн бұрын

@@marial8235 Keep in mind that every vehicle will need to have timing chains replaced at some point. It's only an issue on the interference engines when the chain breaks and it can ruin you valves/rods/heads.

Hey Wizard. People like you and me who have always fixed stuff for a living need to get away from it sometimes. Broken, difficult awkward machinery is hard work!

Here in the UK that rust would mean an MOT inspection fail. It would be worth very little here, little more than scrap. I know someone who gave his supercharged 2001 jag (actually the Daimler version) away for free to someone who wanted a welding project. Lovely cars but money pits.

@andrewmooreandrewrmoore7615

14 күн бұрын

Yes classic case of not watching for corrosion and letting it get out of hand. Mot fail . Spares or repairs!

@user-zh9ow3jz1t

13 күн бұрын

rust and mechanical problems run away very fast and do not look back

@30-30Marksman

13 күн бұрын

This is considered extremely clean for us in Michigan. As long as your seat or feet don't go thru the floor from rust it's considered "solid" ha ha

@MrDuncl

10 күн бұрын

Various Americans are commenting LS swap it. I'm thinking, take the Jag engine out of this rustbucket and put it in something decent.

@noth606

5 күн бұрын

@@30-30Marksman Where I'm from(Finland) we have similar weather from what I understand, and similar way to look at rust. Usually poke it lightly with a spanner or finger, if it doesn't immediately go through it's still good. By similar weather I mean snow out the wazzoo 3 months a year about, temps drop to -20C or lower and stay there for a long time. For inspection rust doesn't matter if it's just on a panel, and the thing isn't falling off - if it's structural it doesn't matter if it's still "solid" which means you can't easily poke through it with a screwdriver.

I bought a 2002 XJR R-1 with 13k miles, last year. It was a 1 of 1 built for the 2003 International Auto Show. I bought it new, when I saw it on display in Jan 02. I had to wait until Nov 02 to get the car, as it had to finish the tour. I sold it in Oct 03, with 5k miles and bought a new 2003 CL600. The guy drove it very little and put it away until he died in 21. I ended up buying it back for 35k. It's literally brand spanking new. Since it was built in 12/01, the cut off date for the revised tensioners was Aug 01, so no worries there. Once I received the car, I changed out the original battery, (as it was very weak) with an OEM factory glass mat style. Instead of waisting my money, l used chem strips on the fluids and they all tested good, so no need to change them yet. I did change the oil to a 5-30 full synthetic Mobil 1 oil with an OEM, original style filter, ( not the updated graphics version). The tires are original and still like new. The car was in a carpeted climate controlled museum, so they are still extremely soft and pliable. I did buy a set of original Pirelli Collection original OEM tires, (which are stored away). The car still smells as it did the day I bought it in 01. These are bringing big bucks, in this condition, I feel like I got a steal at 35k! Everytime I get into the car, I feel as if I'm 27 again and it’s 2001. These are spectacular and if taken care of, they will last forever.

The XJ's are just beautiful. One of my favorite designs for sure. Such a shame Jaguar in years lost all sense of taste.

@user-zh9ow3jz1t

14 күн бұрын

beautifull car big money pit

@Shreddah

13 күн бұрын

@@user-zh9ow3jz1t Definitely! A friend owns one and luckily he is mechanically inclined and do all the work himself. It's a never ending project as you might expect lol.

I paid $3,500 for replacing all four timing chains and tensioners on an XK8 eight years ago. So $4,000 to $5,000 is pretty reasonable in 2024.

@evoman44

14 күн бұрын

You would had been better off putting that money towards an LS motor swap. There is a company called Jaguar Specialties that make a convention kit to make it easy.

@user-zh9ow3jz1t

14 күн бұрын

if you like your car in the shop most of the time perfect car.

@h7pubg

13 күн бұрын

@@evoman44an LS swap really isn’t reasonable, never find parts from a dealer, there is massive catalogues of parts on SNG barratt etc. LS swap will be 80h of labor, it’s much easier doing chains, having a handbook to easily diagnose the common engine. they really don’t have unusual problems outside of chain tensioners and coolant hoses getting old. you could replace 3 of these engines for the cost of an LS swap, you need to be proactive where you get your parts to not get ripped off, they made a lot of these cars and it’s not that hard

@patricklabeots5666

10 күн бұрын

I just replaced the timing chain in my Equinox, cost 4200

@evoman44

10 күн бұрын

@@patricklabeots5666 Yikes. A timing belt replacement on my 05 Subaru WRX was just $650. For $$4,200 I could probably get a built short block installed on my car.

I'm on my second XJ8 and I 0:10 absolutely love them! I sold my 2002 VDP recently (it had the revised tensioners as it was built in December 2001) and it's still going strong at 165000 miles. I lasted 3 weeks and saw a 2004 VDP locally in a very sorry state. It needed a lot of work but I'm semi-retired and thankfully I can still do a lot of the work myself. Best thing about the X350 is it shares a lot of parts with the Lincoln LS so parts are cheaper and these cars are somewhat easier to work on. So if you are handy with the wrenches don't hesitate and go get one. There's no car out there quite like them!😁

@martyober4833

12 күн бұрын

TBird parts from the same lineage

A word of advice from someone who owns two Jaguars and a Land Rover with the AJ-V8 in them, AVOID THE X308 V8 JAGS. The early 4.0 varients of the AJ-V8 are the ones with the notorious timing chain issues, the later 4.2 revisions (found in the X350 & X358 models) fixed the timing chain issues and have proven to be EXTREMELY reliable and stout. In addition, the X350 & X358 are aluminum-bodies and replaced many of the outdated, archaic components from the X308 with newer electronics and more modern mechanicals. They can also be found for almost the exact same prices as the older models for the mileage and condition. They are arguably the most reliable Jaguars to ever come out of England and retain almost all of the signature Jaguar styling that many know them for. I can attest to this as I have an 03 S-Type R with the supercharged 4.2 at 118k miles as my daily, an 06 XJR with the supercharged 4.2 at 152k miles, and a Land Rover LR3 with the 4.4 Jag V8 at 244k. None of them have ever had timing chains done and run like clockwork.

@kevinmanns7170

11 күн бұрын

There is no 4.4 jag V8. The 4.4 is a BMW engine.

@computerwiz4

11 күн бұрын

@@kevinmanns7170 Not in the Land Rover LR3, it's a 4.4 AJ-V8.

@kevinmanns7170

11 күн бұрын

@@computerwiz4 It isn't.

@computerwiz4

11 күн бұрын

@@kevinmanns7170 It is. I've done valve cover gaskets and VVT solenoid seals on it and they are a direct match with the 4.2 AJ-V8 motors. Many other parts also are interchangeable because they're exactly the same as the 4.2 and 4.0 except for higher displacement. You're thinking of the Range Rovers that used the 4.4 BMW engine in 03, 04, and 05. V8 Land Rover LR3s are entirely Jaguar V8. Land Rover =/= Range Rover

@Ze_Hans

4 күн бұрын

@@kevinmanns7170 Yes it is, but only made for LR.

Plenty of parts near me but then I live in England 👍and they are called grease nipples in the uk not zerks

@joetz1

14 күн бұрын

Oscar U. Zerk patented the zerk fitting in 1929.

@andrewmooreandrewrmoore7615

14 күн бұрын

Still known as grease nipples on British cars though.

@joetz1

14 күн бұрын

@@andrewmooreandrewrmoore7615 that’s funny because zerk was a European guy. Not an American

If these things had been built with Toyota reliability, they'd be worth a fortune today. Easily one of the most beautiful series of cars ever. On a side note, that Land Rover on the lift looks familiar.

@MichaelOKeefe2009

14 күн бұрын

The same Land Rover that almost went up in flames because of the wiring. Why it returned? Because it's a Scotty Kilmer certified endless money pit as it ages.

@petrosaguilar8916

9 күн бұрын

LoL the supercharged X308's in clean low mileage shape fetch as much as $20k nowadays.

When I used to work at Fountain Tire around 2019, a dark green xjr came in with tan interior. It had the same problem with the throttle body and sensor. Back when the parts were available.

It's the kind of car you buy for love, not as a daily. I can totally understand why an enthusiast would buy one as long as they have the spare cash to restore and refurbish.

I love how he's talking about how expensive parts are for the Jaguar (which they actually aren't in my experience) while it's parked next to a Lamborghini. Gave me a good laugh. If one shops around, you will find that many parts are actually cheaper than comparable Honda or other Japanese car parts. I have two XJ-Rs of similar vintage, and both are outstanding cars requiring minimal repairs. One I've had for 14 years, the other for 8. My XK-8, which I've owned for 5 years, is also very reliable. Buying parts from the dealer makes no sense anymore. They are simply getting the same parts I get, but mark them up to ridiculous levels. I know, I've worked at several dealers over the years.

@theowlknows

14 күн бұрын

As mentioned by another commenter, the 2002 Jaguar has version-3 tensioners and shouldn't need any work in that area. On a car that age, I would strongly suggest that they have the two oil cooler lines replaced between radiator and engine block. I had one of mine blow at 70 mph. on freeway, and lost virtually all the oil in a mile or two. NO damage to engine, and I had a hydraulics shop replace just the rubber sections and add high-pressure hose clamps for about $40. Been perfect for 12 years now.

@h7pubg

13 күн бұрын

absolutely, a lot of the youtube jaguar drivel is not based on actual knowledge but exaggerating the fun to repeat legends about how bad they are. shows a lot when he doesn’t know how to put the bonnet in service mode for accessibility, literally requires a flathead to pop the strut end off, and any sized bolt to keep it held open

Whenever you start a video with, "this customer Just Bought..... My heart sinks!!!!!

Every time wizard says growler I think back to top gear and English meaning of growler.. Hairy ladygarden.

96 and 97 are the only years to own.Wife has had 2 and she loved them both. Actually quite reliable and easy to work on/fix

I don't have a link, but call Denooyer Jaguar in Kalamazoo, MI. When I worked there, they were the largest Jaguar parts warehouse in the country. They also own Engel Imports (MG, Triumph, and Austin Healey parts) and Terry's Jag (classic Jag parts). They also import parts from England, directly from the manufacturers that make the parts for Jag. If they can't find the part for you, nobody can.

Thank God for 1970s [ Jr.High HiSchool Voc SHOP ] Wood / Metal / Auto / Home Construction / MachineShop / Electronics Classes Matters for the Future.

@deanbarnette1602

14 күн бұрын

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I just repaired the ABS circuit board fir cracked solder joints on my 95 XJS yesterday. It had been repaired once before, so an "inspection hole" had already been made, and it was easy to repair. Fixed my intermittent ABS light.

@ianmontgomery7534

14 күн бұрын

was the original solder lead free? Did you use leaded solder for the repair?

@jonalowe

13 күн бұрын

@ianmontgomery7534 I used leaded solder. No clue what the original was, or what had been used in the previous repair.

@ianmontgomery7534

12 күн бұрын

@@jonalowesounds sensible to me. I would do the same.

I see people selling bmw, audi, mercedes, and occasionally jaguar's on the web, and most of the time it's usally going for 2-3 grand, needing tires, or something minor. I don't even look at these car's to buy, because the parts are expensive even though i can fix most issue's. You are right about finding parts, it's much harder for a car like this. Most of these high end car's are not that reliable after the warranty runs out, and buying something you can't afford to fix, is just not a wise choice. Stick with something with good reasonable parts availability, and a known good history for being reliable. Like the Wizard always says, if you aren't a mechanic, get the car inspected by a mechanic before you shell out the money to buy. G-d bless.

I had a 2006 S-type with the big V8 in it. Transmission went out 13 years later (car only had 65K miles on it). God I loved that car - it had white Corinthian leather interior and burled walnut dash....still smelled like a new car when I sold it to the scrapper. I had a new job and was moving and decided to leave her behind because I wanted to focus on work and not repairing and shipping a car that little value. The scrap yard let me keep the leaping jaguar hood ornament. I still dream about that car sometimes...

Parts availability is one reason why it's best to stick with common cars like Corollas, Civics, Accords, Camry's, Ford/Chevy vehicles like the Focus or Silverado pickups and others. They are generally easier to find parts for since they are so common especially the Toyota and Honda vehicles and even if you can't find the OEM part, at least you should have plenty of options for aftermarket if you're in a pinch (some things I would still buy OEM and I think most things you still can as long as the car was made within the last 20-30 years). But at least you do have third party options for many of the common vehicles and one reason I'll keep buying the Honda and Toyotas... plenty of parts are available for them (of course newer cars may need to get parts from the dealer as third party options may not yet be available, but for some parts if the car is less than 5 years old, you may WANT to get an OEM part anyway). If this customer got this car for less than $5k, this is the reason why -- the previous owner didn't want to throw more into it than it's probably worth (I mean that $4k-$5k timing chain job alone would be enough for me to sell a car, even a luxury car like this at this stage). But 89k is not much for a car this old, but I think we see why they got a deal.... That's why I'd say if you want a sports car, buy it new and sell it when the warranty runs out (or its one of the rare times I'd say you're better off leasing than buying).

@h7pubg

13 күн бұрын

not at all true, you just need to be not lazy and actually look outside of dealers. most these parts are readily available, rule of thumb with these jags is, if the part is a common item to fail/disposable, the parts are still manufactured, if it is a very rare part to fail, you can find the car off of one being parted, there are thousands of cars being parted because they made a good number of these. get a low mileage copart one. really not a big deal if you get out of the self restricted “i can only drive a toyota corolla” mentality and you actually are a car enthusiast

I would directly contact shops and/or distributers in Europe/uk

Years back I bought an s type that was one year old and in excellent condition. After a few months my right passenger side power motor died. The dealer mechanic a genuinely decent guy told me that since ford was part of the jaguar story then that i could fork out $900 for a "jaguar" branded motor or use the one ford put on their lincoln models but for less than half for the cost of a jag part,.for exactly the same motor. Many jaguar parts during the ford days were rebranded ford/lincoln parts. Hopefully that'll help someone either looking for less costly parts or for when jag parts can't be found.

We purchased a 2003 S-Type R (the first year with the upgraded cam chain tensioners) this past winter for $6k, after searching for one for six months. It is throwing several codes, from the electronic parking brake to the ride height sensor (and yes, the headlights droop), but for now the main one I want to deal with soon is one of the O2 sensors. I actually had a the downstream sensor replaced on that side a couple months ago and before they started the work, asked about the possibility of needing the upstream one at the same time. The service manager at this shop, which advertises as import specialists (including Jaguar specifically) basically blew me off saying that would be rare. And of course, as soon as the rear sensor was replaced, the code for the front one appeared. Yes I'm still a bit nervous about potential expenses, but we're loving the car. It's amazingly clean and rust free underneath and bought it with 70k miles, 75k now. I still turn around just to admire it.

I love those Jags,, but this one was way too expensive! 2.5-3k and parting out would’ve been the right choice.

The XJ8 and XJR didn't get Air Suspension until 2004 when they went to the aliminum body.

@PJ-om2wq

14 күн бұрын

That's what I was about to say. Air suspension arrived with the aluminium bodied X350.

@rci-tf2zc

14 күн бұрын

@@PJ-om2wq yep

The XKR is NOT so prone to chain problems. It has an alloy thermostat is good. The naturally aspirated v8's had a plastic housing that binded the thermostat and that caused the engine to run hot but not over heat. Also check out British parts online and get some decent prices

Hello - XJR Owner here. Check the build month of the car on the Vin plate. If it is august 2001 build or newer you might be OK on the timing chains. THe switchover was sometime in August 2001. My XJR was assembled in August 2001 and lucky me when I pulled the valve covers to renew the valve cover gaskets I saw the sad orange plastic and a few cracks, this was at around 80,000 miles. Did them myself in the garage. Many hours of work but only about $900 worth of parts and special tools. This was back around 2014 so everything is probably more expensive now.

OMG, I have one of these, same color. love mine.. I have DIY channel and with me doing the work myself, that is the only way I could afford having this car..

I saw the jag and knew whoever bought that was about to drop bread

@jameshenderson5385

11 күн бұрын

Drop bread???

@petrosaguilar8916

9 күн бұрын

That's me whenever I see somebody buying a used Hyundai or Kia.

I hope the customer learned to get an inspection done before laying down the cold hard cash. That rust was a deal killer.

That cherry red, just suckered someone in! if I didn’t know about cars, it probably would’ve got me too just because of the color and how great it looks

In the automotive world America is quickly becoming the New Cuba. Sometimes I now fix cars with other manufacturers parts that fit. Since all of these companies have been in the same bed together for quite some time and usually the same manufacturer supplies the same product to multiple brands, it is possible sometimes to find the part under a different part number. A Maserati window switch that a customer needed wasn't available and even if they could get it, dealer said 300. A little digging and a dodge journey had the same switch, 60 bucks and down the road they went. Another example was a Suzuki that a customer couldn't get the rear window switch. Everything was saying not available. I looked at the same vehicle GM made back in the day and found the switch for 35 bucks new. Before long everything will be Mickey moused together. Ls engines in everything, electric power conversions, and maybe even Fred Flintstone conversions.😂😂😂

@kclefthanded427

14 күн бұрын

Looks like duct tape will be a repair option in some situations unfortunately

@user-ht1xu4gv2u

13 күн бұрын

Yeah gone are the daze of 99cent plugs seems these daze special order the norm..Keeping my 71 Chevelle til frame rots. Out

What a nightmare, a complicated British supercharged V8.

@Schlipperschlopper

14 күн бұрын

No it was a Ford engine.

@luisgpr1

14 күн бұрын

I am under the impression that on that era the engines were shared with Land Rover too?

In the UK it would fail its MOT on rust. Which means get it fixed b4 you can drive!

Even very common, back in the day domestic products have parts sourcing issues....Try to find parts for a first generation Dodge Dakota....non tilt wheel turn signal switch? 4x4 control arms? Can be very difficult, even though you think it would be easy to acquire.

There's a reason you don't see too many of these Jags on the road anymore; "Indefinite Backorder." That's reason enough to avoid them AT ALL COSTS! Too bad because it's a gorgeous car. It'll look nice at the wreckers.

@nicholashall4639

14 күн бұрын

So it is just parts available in the USA or is it in the UK too? These are very common cars in the UK so are those owners also screwed?

@Barbarapape

14 күн бұрын

@@nicholashall4639 Trim and interior parts are very hard to find, but sensors and service parts are still available from several specilaist suppliers in the UK, just google the part required.

@LebronPhoto1

14 күн бұрын

If I ever bought a cheap Jag it would probably be a Ford era S type since it has a Ford/Lincoln platform and power train and parts are likely available and inexpensive.

@Barbarapape

14 күн бұрын

@@LebronPhoto1 Whatever you do don't buy an S or X type, they were not well made and rust is an issue. Yes you can buy Ford spares, but try finding bodywork and trim.

@1maico1

13 күн бұрын

@@nicholashall4639 There is good parts availability in the UK. If it's a common failure the part will normally be remanufactured by a third party. There are also specialist breakers.

To be fair, the timing chain issues were for the late 90s Jags and were supposed to have been sorted by 2001/2. That'd shave $4K off the estimate right away.

@MitchGrooms

14 күн бұрын

totally

@donmoore7785

10 күн бұрын

I have read reports that some 2002 have the older parts, and to go by the engine #. Not speaking from experience, only from what is on the internet. Grain of salt and all.

When my mom had a 2000 XJ8 she said it cost $1,200 to shift to park at the dealership - that was before the $12,000 timing guide failure. She loved it, but she loves the Lexus she has had since even more, because all that ever happens at the dealership is planned maintenance, even after 4 times as many miles.

About 10 years ago I was driving a 2000 Holden Commodores with the Buick 3800 V6 and was thinking of trading it for a British Racing Green XJR. Really nice car. Then the heater tap blew on the Commodore. I got a replacement on a Sunday afternoon for $42 or thereabouts. And I thought now if that was the Jag it probably would have been about $400 and taken 6 weeks to ship from UK. So I bought another commodore which now has 345000km on it. Doesn't look as nice as the XJR but probably saved me a bundle! Great work Whizz, keep it up.

Air suspension only came in on the later aluminium XJ, the X350.

Bet you will get the part in the UK with jag specialist galore

That's the first time I've (ever!) heard an American say "bonnet" ! Congrats! Excellent video

I've owned my old Jag (2003 X350 XJ6) 5 years and not spent anywhere near the UK equivalent of $7000 yet. I bought well for £1450 in 2019 and spent around £2000 changing every fluid and filter regularly along with the 6HP26 tube, bridge and mechatronic connector seals, front hubs and other miscellaneous bits. Cars like these need their own owner wizards.

SNG Barratt have most items for these, not cheap but they have good coverage of the key items

@PJ-om2wq

14 күн бұрын

SNG Barratt got me out of trouble when a fuel tank strap snapped on my X350 in Spain. X350s were never sold in Spain so Jag dealers don't have some of the parts. SNG shipped one from Netherlands in 48 hours which got me back on the road.

@h7pubg

13 күн бұрын

absolutely, surprised he only mentioned the worst ways to source parts and none of the ones most of usbuse

@PJ-om2wq

13 күн бұрын

@@h7pubg it's not so easy when you're in the trade fixing other people's cars. If you have to wait a week then the customer is without their car for a week and it's blocking space in your workshop. Mechanics can't charge for hours spent looking for parts. It's a nightmare. People in the trade want to just call their favourite supplier and have the part turn up same day or next day; anything else doesn't really work for them.

The slick jokes he pulls with his wife got me dead 💀

We had a 2004 Silver XJ8 and all I had to do was replace the transmission lines because the couplings start leaking and it's not an easy fix, definitely need a lift. You can just live with the leaks because there's no durn dipstick to keep tabs on your fluid level. That aside, one of the best and most beautiful cars we've ever owned. My pops is a dyed-in-the-wool big cushy Buick man and when he drove it on the highway couldn't stop saying how smooth it was.

It's a 2002 JAG.....it's 22 years old. That would be like having a 1970 car in 1992!! No one had a car that old that didn't need a complete restoration.

@golden.lights.twinkle2329

14 күн бұрын

I'm driving my 1983 Chevy Celebrity every day. Never been restored.

@tycurtin7565

14 күн бұрын

@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 You are in the extreme minority. Especially for an 83 Chevy. Do you live in the rust belt and drive in the winter?

@210works

14 күн бұрын

90s and 2000s cars are built to last longer than 70s cars were. 5 digit odometers?

@tycurtin7565

14 күн бұрын

@@210works Very true. But especially a luxury car of the era will be more complex and expensive to fix.

@abysstoid1503

14 күн бұрын

I drive a 2002 Lexus es300. Runs perfectly fine and never gave me trouble or expensive repair bills. Most expensive thing is getting new tires, $800 for all 4.

What’s the part number? I’m in the UK next week, might find one there

I had an anthracite grey ‘03 XJR. Brilliant car. Unfortunately, all of the electronic components began failing at an alarming rate. At 140,000 miles, the drivetrain was still healthy and strong, but the car was simply becoming a money pit. I truly miss that car, a marvelous road trip car.

with my '99 I found many of the sensors are used in other applications. The Mass Air I put in 6 years ago was for a subaru in the mid 2000s and a fraction the price of a remanufactured OEM sensor. It did take some time working through the cross reference numbers to be sure it would work.

The previous generation of XJ and XJR with the bulletproof AJ16 6 cylinder is a much better car. Far more reliable, still very quick, and much easier to repair.

@ckm-mkc

14 күн бұрын

Other than the infamous octopus coolant hose....

@jamesmasin159

14 күн бұрын

Thats exactly why I got myself one a year ago and I also fix and improve it by myself. Years to get are 93-94 XJ40 and 94-97 X300, all inline sixes 4liter.

@HJ-vs7lf

14 күн бұрын

It depends on you area I guess. The last month, I have spend all my free time searching for an XJ, anywhere from an XJ40 to the X358. All x300 and x308 under €5k either had rust holes that my hand fit in, or in very expensive to fix places. The one xj40 I looked at was completely gone. The x350 is the easiest to fix for me, so far I'd rather deal with some corroded ground points, than rust. I live in an area with lots of road salt and rain.

@BillofRights1951

14 күн бұрын

So right....far more xj6 parts available than '98-'03 xj8's

@HJ-vs7lf

13 күн бұрын

@@BillofRights1951 I understand! It's a shame because the x308 is one of the prettiest sedans. 03-08 parts are easier, at least in Western Europe where I live.

Sadly it is true that Jaguar parts are now hard to find with most on backorder and will probably never be instock again. Most sensors and service parts are still available from specialist suppliers. If it will help you i am more than willing to buy them and send them by Airmail to you. Please refer to my comment below.

@shaunportlock4924

14 күн бұрын

Yes but smaller businesses in UK make them

@Barbarapape

14 күн бұрын

@@shaunportlock4924 Since that cars are made here then this is where most but not all spares are made. and are still available. The postage cost of sending a new sensor to the USA is not that high, and most suppliers will send them directly to you. We face the same problems with parts for cars made in the USA which have to be imported,

@h7pubg

13 күн бұрын

not a shock, dealers haven’t made these parts in many years, they still make common failure parts along with many aftermarket companies. not really hard to source parts for just about any common issue, and if the issue is uncommon it’s very easy to source a used part

Tensioners/Transmissions and Nikisil linings will fail on the 98/99s. Also, plastic water pump impellers will disintegrate over time. You will also need to replace the Supercharger as well…do not be afraid to change the supercharger oil as well. I’ve had 1 heavily modified 1998 XJR and 3 XJR6s. Contact Eurotoys in Chicago or Arden orrrr Paramount performance . The drive shaft can also be out of balance causing a vibration

I had a 2001 vandenplas. White on white. Loooved that car I was the king. Absolute head turner

Just look for the same part in a ford. Failing that just drill out the old part to get the housing and JB weld in a new thermocouple from an electronics supplier.

@tellucas

14 күн бұрын

I was thinking something similar, if another sensor with the same electrical characteristics could substituted.

In Europe, they were available with air suspension but not on the R models.

@jagvette1

14 күн бұрын

2004-2009 air suspension on XJR

From the UK - We don't see those cars on our roads these days. As an ex owner of an XJS coupe I can say that I was impressed by the engine and suspension design - but I had window surround paint bubbling with rust in the first year. My previous model failed with electrical problems and the main dealer admitted that they could not fix it! I see plenty of the newer model Jags - I just hope quality control has improved.... Thanks for your honest advice to would - be buyers of the older models.

Unfortunately, the only thing that I can come up with is. You're just gonna have to create a new engine and transmission for that vehicle, like build one from scratch. Because you will never find parts ever again for those cars. To be all honest, if anybody buys any of these vehicles, you might as well just make them look really nice and just put them as a museum piece because that's all they are is a decoration.

Call John's Cars in Dallas.. He makes conversion kits to put GM V8s in Jaguars. He's done thousands of these conversions in the last 45 years

@McNabbula

14 күн бұрын

Did one on an 84 XJ6 for my Dad in 93. Money well spent. The LS for an XK8 would be awesome

@foxstrangler

13 күн бұрын

But then it wouldn't be a Jaguar anymore.....just an ASP.

Leapers were stopped bing fitted to Jags many decades ago, with the end of the MkII saloon. The XJ and XJ-S never had them. Nor should they.

@peterrenn6341

14 күн бұрын

It's a useful indicator that a previous owner was an "enthusiast" - and (usually) amateur DIY mechanic. Halves the value ;-)

@mikewatson5570

14 күн бұрын

only in the uk, all xjs of this era still have them in north america and canada

@Ze_Hans

14 күн бұрын

why its like saying merc or rolls royce shouldnt have their hood signs, utterly stupid

@lewis72

14 күн бұрын

@@Ze_Hans No it isn't, as Mercs and Royces had them fitted at the factory.

@lewis72

14 күн бұрын

@@mikewatson5570 So I see. Just seen a MotorWeek video back when X308 was new and sure enough, it has the leaper. I'm surprised at that considering US' stance on pedestrian safety etc. I wonder if they were dealer-fitted.

I’ve an S-Type from 2006, I can say parts are expensive but easier to source in the UK. Owning a Jaguar isn’t cheap, I’ve done all the recommended work on mine over 7 years of ownership

I had one, 250k+ miles before it became uneconomical to run. These are quick, very low to ground too. I now have an all aluminium bodied XJR with more torque and more horses. It is very quick ! As noted below, there are several 'shops' in the UK to buy parts from.

5/14/24 - Thank you for your diligent report This vid highlights the pros / cons to high cost repairs And eventuality it is costly Sep 2021 I searched for a used hardtop convertible I came across a 1997 Jaguar MK8 Soft Top Convertible, previous 2owners, 68,000mi, $15,900.00 The price looked good to me Drove nice with power, exterior / interior nice except the speaker was distorted I knew Jaguar anything has high ratio of costly repairs I thought about awhile but my gut instinct said NO ! My story shared is I walked away with relief Eye candy is a big thing Regrets a bigger thing Research research research I did and found a reliable hardtop convertible Due diligence Thank you again for your vid

@h7pubg

13 күн бұрын

buy a 2002-06 for 2/3 of that price and they really don’t have common problems, maybe coolant hoses? not a big deal

That old jag is a £500 car in the uk and parts are 10 a penny.

@cedhome7945

14 күн бұрын

Now if we could just ship them to the USA we could make a fortune 😁🇬🇧🇺🇲

@lewis72

14 күн бұрын

Won't get an X308 XJR for that. I was offered one about 8 years ago for £1k, which was cheap then but knowing that it needed new sills and chain tensioners.

@colinstickland3130

14 күн бұрын

Rust is the enemy.

@Ze_Hans

14 күн бұрын

What drugs are you on? Because that is a big lie, In Germany with low mileage they go for about 15k+ € and parts are expensive as hell.

@Schlipperschlopper

14 күн бұрын

@@Ze_Hans In Germany soon all gas cars will be forbidden....

I learned from owning a Jag when Ford owned them. Always weird issues but what a great paint job!

I had the privilege of driving one of these brand new in 2001, a few times. INCREDIBLE! Looked under the hood...NOPE!

Talk to Greg at Coventry West out of Atlanta GA. My 01 XJR was a dream, one of the smoothest driving cars I have ever driven.

@BangerFleet

14 күн бұрын

Coventry West went out of business a couple years ago.

@Schlipperschlopper

14 күн бұрын

they are broke

@MitchGrooms

14 күн бұрын

They closed up 2 years ago. that is where i got my parts.. I live here in Atlanta.. I have a car channel here, WOW, small World. I spoke to Greg also..

@MitchGrooms

14 күн бұрын

@@BangerFleet I just said the same thing..LOL

@ferrariguy8278

6 күн бұрын

Greg retired out of CW (now closed b/c of. well.. issues) some years back. He now works PT at the Railway museum.

Try palmbeach jaguar for air charge sensor.

@Schlipperschlopper

14 күн бұрын

1000 Dollars for a screw there....

@rci-tf2zc

14 күн бұрын

rock has them in stock right now 262.00

@Schlipperschlopper

13 күн бұрын

@@rci-tf2zc He might contact Welsh Jaguar parts

@GreggWalken-xd3qv

12 күн бұрын

Try Euro-Tech Okla city. James owner/tech has years experience and extremely reasonable.

Car wizard-- here's confirmation of what suspention came in the JAGUAR XJR: FROM the March 2000 issue of car and driver. A comparison between a Mercedes E55 AMG/BMW M5 AND THE XJR witch has these 3 cars on the cover. Stats on Page 45. Front suspension: unequal length control arms, COIL SPRINGS, anti-roll bar. Rear suspension: 1 control arm and 1 fixed length half-shift per side, COIL SPRINGS, anti-roll bar. It came with 255/40ZR-18 95Y pirelli P Zero Asimmetrico Weights 4015 pounds. Horsepower is 370 Torque is 387 0-60 in 5.3 seconds 1/4 mile time is 13.9 at 103 mph Top speed is 154mph. 23.1 gallon gas tank. XJR came in 3rd place in the comparison.

Hi Wizard , I know also an other Guy his name is Ian Wilson in the UK its a Jaguar braker and a friendly chap .

Those v8-models are terrible. Older, supercharged straight-6 models are way better. Frend of mine drove almost 90000km with one, and only bigger work was broken gearbox, and in that time, car was over 200000km in odometer😅

@peterrenn6341

14 күн бұрын

I ran mine for 12 years and up to 130,000 miles) with no issues at all. Just proper servicing and not skimping on care. I've had plenty of the the earlier cars too (everything from '80s Series III XJs onwards) and they are nice, but not better.

It is a damn shame for these cars to get mechanically totaled because you can't get parts.

@alexandrecouture2462

14 күн бұрын

He can actually get parts. It's not that hard, it's that he doesn't want to. eBay and RockAuto are your friends with this kind of car. I have a 1991 and I maintain it myself.

@grahamstevenson1740

14 күн бұрын

@@alexandrecouture2462 Obviously as a British built car, you'll likely find better availability of hard to find items in the UK.

@shaunportlock4924

14 күн бұрын

I'm not sure that's true. I'm English and there's definitely a big aftermarket.

@jagvette1

14 күн бұрын

you keep believing that, more jaguars for me.

@h7pubg

13 күн бұрын

@@jagvette1ha! exactly. nice seeing you here, your videos have helped me over the years maintaining my 99 xk8 since 2021

I've noticed that a few people have bought busted jags and ripped out the engine and replaced it with a simpler (and more reliable) muscle car engine, seems the smarter and probably cheaper way to go.

I really like Mr. Wizard he is great mechanic and very honest one too. However everyone can make mistake occasionally. Since this car is 2001+ it does not need timing job because car cane out of the factory with upgraded. This makes $4500 not necessary but unfortunately damage is done already. Over half of all poster are talking about this expensive repair. I am not professional mechanic but I do fix my cars and I own 1998 XJR and I did timing job myself, big job indeed but only required on eary models. Other problems like bushings are just normal maintenance on 20 years old car. Rear suspension "A" frame is common problem after 20 year. My Toyota Tundra had more rust after only 12 years.

Rockauto has 1 in stock

@deanbarnette1602

14 күн бұрын

Do not trust Rock Auto. They have too many wrong parts listed for cars that aren't correct. I had them send the wrong & defective parts for both a 2004 Ford Thunderbird & a 2013 Ford Explorer XLT. their listings are incorrect, so buyer beware!! 💯

@Schlipperschlopper

14 күн бұрын

a chinese fake....

@rci-tf2zc

14 күн бұрын

yep already posted that. and the other posters rock is fine for this jag i have one.