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It blows my mind how George’s body just laid there for so many years. His bleached body hidden on the mountain like a relic from a lost time. Everything from his time was gone but he remained. Such a fascinating story. Thank you for your work!

The first was probably some monk in the 1800's without oxygen ;)

@Mila_Brearey

23 күн бұрын

The Nepalese people lived in the region but did not climb the mountains, believing that Sagarmatha would be disturbed.

From all of the stories that I have heard and what I feel myself, I believe that Mallory and Irvine actually did summit and got into trouble whilst descending. I have a hard time crediting Hillary and Tenzing Norgay with the first summit when we truly don't know the answer to the question.🇦🇺

@Mila_Brearey

23 күн бұрын

Same!

@larryhullinger4141

17 күн бұрын

You know something nobody else does then There is absolutely no proof whatsoever that they made the summit

@krisushi1

16 күн бұрын

@@larryhullinger4141 I never stated that there was proof that they did. I stated that from all the stories I've come across, including witness statements and from what I feel myself, I believe they did make it. Call it a gut feeling. There are many occurrences in life that there isn't evidence to back up, yet many still believe. If you had a gut feeling about something, I wouldn't be so rude to tell you that you're wrong. We're entitled to believe what we feel ourselves.

@krisushi1

16 күн бұрын

@@Mila_Brearey Thanks for understanding. It doesn't sit right with me to go crediting Hillary and Tenzing Norgay as the first to summit when we still have doubts.

@Unio-Mystica

11 күн бұрын

They never made it!

you just need to remember that the first at anything just means the first with proof

Mallory without a doubt because you have to believe in something.

@EverestMystery

Ай бұрын

Cool, that is on point!

In your heart of heart do you believe that Mallory and Irvine reached the summit and died on descent. It disturbs me if they did but didn’t credit for it 🤔

Love your channel!

@EverestMystery

Ай бұрын

Thank you SO much!

I want to believe ( just like the Fox Mulder) that they reached the summit - I’m sad they didn’t survive descending and their bodies / belongings are now lost ( however, it happened )

@EverestMystery

Ай бұрын

This is a great video that might provide some insight for you, which I think you'll enjoy: kzread.info/dash/bejne/q6Cll7Ftc62qdqQ.html

@yarnenthusiast7480

Ай бұрын

@@EverestMystery yes I saw this episode and m planning on getting the novel, Fallen 😄

@debsam77

Ай бұрын

@@yarnenthusiast7480who’s the author of the book if you don’t mind never asking 🥰

@yarnenthusiast7480

Ай бұрын

@@debsam77 fallen by mick conerey

Wasn’t one of the men supposed to put a photo of his wife on the top of the summit when they arrived and when they found the bodies, the photo of his wife is not found on the bodies?

@davem8836

Ай бұрын

Yes, George Mallory was to have left a photo which has never been found. However if he did leave the photo up there somewhere, what made him think it wouldn't just blow away? The winds can be wicked up there. It would have been another 29 years for Hillary to get up there.

@dukecraig2402

Ай бұрын

​@@davem8836 Yea, I just love all the conspiracy nuts who claim that Hillary must have found the picture and destroyed it to cover up the fact that Mallory got there first. As if what's essentially a piece of paper would still be laying there after 29 years, oh God some of the things people come up with.

@mikey1738a

Ай бұрын

@@davem8836 he knew it would blow away but wanted to put it up there with a photo taken of it using the camera thats why its such a controversial story because finding irvines body would help us finding the camera they had would tell the world if they truly made the summit

@davem8836

Ай бұрын

@@mikey1738a The problem with that is, according to MT there's no proof they had a camera and in fact, probably did not.

@kacperrutkowski6350

23 күн бұрын

​@@davem8836They probably did not, but Irvine was supposed to take rock samples from the summit if I remember correctly. Finding theese rock samples would have been enough to proove they were there.

George Mallory's body was found but not Sandy Irvine's.

@EverestMystery

Ай бұрын

Here is a cool video called Face to Face with George Mallory: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lH6fo5mOfsqyYc4.html

@zarasbazaar

Ай бұрын

Hence his point. If they find Irvine's body, they may find proof because the camera is still missing.

Could it be someone from around there, from sherpa community or someone else?

@davem8836

Ай бұрын

Possibly. Why not?

Everybody climbs with the help.of sherpas.... But no westerners talked about it. Tenzing allowed the other man to take the credit. Means.... No media talked about it.

I'm a believer 😁

I like to think Mallory and Irvine were first.

@EverestMystery

16 күн бұрын

A hope shared by many! Thanks for supporting the channel! :)

History..thanks

George Mallory's body but not Sandy Irvine

Who has or where is their camera? Also I thought the descent had to be included into who climbed the summit 1st? That would be Hillary and Tenzing

Howwwww did they reach the summit of mount everst in the 50s!??? Thats mindblowing

Was any part of the oxygen apparatus found close by him at site 1999?

@user-kh6iu3cz6y

Ай бұрын

They did used oxigen probably 2 bottles per person.But back then it was new tehnology and extremely unreiable.

@somjasa

Ай бұрын

@@user-kh6iu3cz6y Yes it was and I think, "people think", that's why Mallory chose Irving to go with him to the Summit. I'm interested to know if Mallory still was using it when he fell. Even if he was using it, the straps holding the oxygen could have gotten broken and it all fell off in an other direction. So it wouldn't be a certain say anyway. I don't remember if they found any part of it close by Mallory, hence my question.

@user-kh6iu3cz6y

Ай бұрын

@@somjasa i think they did have oxigen bottles when they fell.Because 1999 search expedition for Irvine and Mallory foumd parts for oxigen bottles in their camp.Simonson had seen some very old oxygen bottles near the First Step during his first summit climb in 1991. One of these bottles was again found in 1999 and was one belonging to Mallory and Irvine, thus proving the two climbed at least as high as shortly below the First Step.Huge achevement with such primitive gear in 1924...

@somjasa

Ай бұрын

@@user-kh6iu3cz6y Yes, an extreme achievement for real. I think of them almost every time watching people climb in the Death-Zone. I just cannot comprehend how they managed to climb as high as they did with the gear and clothes they had. I so wish they had made it back home. It's not long ago since embarking on a journey to the highest mountains was a very complex adventure with transportations, porters, huge amounts of supplies, few possibilities to communicate with each other and the world outside the mountains, etc...Absolutely nothing nowadays compares to the way and effort climbers from the past endured. Sandy Irvine was so young too and wasn't even ment to go for the Summit as I understand it. I hope he also can be found some day.

I’d like to think the Mallory and Irvine were first however to complete the climb you have to return so although Mallory and Irvine may have summited first Hillary and Norgay are the first to complete Everest. Perhaps this is me creating a fence to sit on to celebrate both attempts though!

of course tenzing norgay was first everybody knows that 🎉

Yeah but if the point is to summit and then come down safely Mallory and Irvine didn't do that , unless China kidnapped Irvine and lived in China or Thailand til he died of old age

@user-yo3sz8xe2s

Ай бұрын

Yea good point. It's like a motorcycle jump doesn't count unless he lands it.

@pauldavis4287

Ай бұрын

Contrary to popular belief, There are plenty of examples of first ascents credited to climbers who died on the way down.

@user-yo3sz8xe2s

Ай бұрын

@@pauldavis4287 I know what my belief is & it's the only belief that matters to me. Mountain climbing is reasonless & stupid. I like outdoors activities but the danger that is involved with the extreme stuff makes it not worth it. Living a full life is better than dying in your 20's or 30's doing stupid stuff. Another screwed up thing is Mount Everest is littered with garbage & dead bodies now.

@pauldavis4287

Ай бұрын

@@user-yo3sz8xe2s if you find the subject stupid, and you only care about your opinion…then why are you commenting?

@davem8836

Ай бұрын

@@user-yo3sz8xe2s "There's no explanation for stupidity." - Einstein. Mallory left his wife and kids 3 times for months on end to go there and then killed himself. What kind of stupid ass, selfish shit is that?

Apparently the debate will continue and go On. Now it's all just about who does it without Oxygen or the fastest. With all the Trash up there it's gonna be a dumpster of crap.

I think getting back down alive is kinda critical to any claims of a successful climb.

Is it not rule in mountaineering that a successful summit is returning alive and able to tell about the accomplishment?

How do you know it wasn't someone in the 1800's or even before then 🤔

May be bacteria in the freezing soaring air..

I don't know who made it first but I do know there's never a good out come. But to each their own.

Why would you ask? Isn't surviving a crucial part of "really climbing" or really doing anything

I would like to think they made it. I don't know like everyone else. The picture was gone when they found the body though. So I think he left it on the summit.

There is zero "overwhelming evidence" that Mallory and Irvine didn’t summit.

@EverestMystery

Ай бұрын

It's definitely a mystery that keeps the debate alive.

Who WAS first?

@EverestMystery

Ай бұрын

Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay, May 29, 1953

Overwhelming evidence?

@EverestMystery

5 күн бұрын

All the evidence that I found in my two expeditions overwhelmingly point to it....I realize that a :30 second video is hardly space enough to explain. Check the link at the bottom of the video for my interview with Wade Davis, which is pretty awesome

@juan.i5o

5 күн бұрын

@@EverestMystery thank you for your reply. I must disagree. Conjecture and opinion are not evidence. In any case I will rewatch the interview with WD.

@EverestMystery

4 күн бұрын

@@juan.i5o thanks my friend, glad you found the channel!

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@alexblack6421

Ай бұрын

*summited

@Bob31415

Ай бұрын

"summoned"? Why are you using a legal term?

@fsociety6983

Ай бұрын

@@Bob31415 Summonsed is a legal term, summoned just means to call someone to you.

@bloozedaddy

Ай бұрын

See those 3 little dots to the right of your post? That's a dropdown menu where you can edit or delete your posts.

Only those with a lot of time on their hands and nothing worthwhile to do keep asking that question.

@EverestMystery

Ай бұрын

LOL, trolling videos about people having too much time on their hands is like the pot calling the kettle black 😆

@kyunbhai49

Ай бұрын

@@EverestMystery Not really. You can keep shouting from the top of Everest and it won’t change facts. Hillary and Norgay all the way. Now go back to reading The Sun or whatever the frick your useless ilk does 😁

Doesn't much matter if you didn't make it down

I was just wondering if anyone gives a shit?

@zarasbazaar

Ай бұрын

Says the person who clicked on the video and took the time to comment.

@user-yo3sz8xe2s

Ай бұрын

@@zarasbazaar yea & your point is ?

@davem8836

Ай бұрын

That's actually a good question. The only people who seem to give a shit in this day and age are those trying to profit from it in one way or another.