They should raise the price and lower the amount of permits. They should be mandated to clean up trash.

@lf67hh28

19 күн бұрын

Why? Every climber pays for mountain clearance - the Nepalese Govt. Embezzle the payment.

@MaineUSA

18 күн бұрын

@@mighty_tone you don't agree they trashed the mountain with their trash and human waste? Classy

@Lscott-fk2sn

18 күн бұрын

@@mighty_tone trolllololol :)

@michaelangelos5117

14 күн бұрын

What I think is that if someone leaves trash up on Mount Everest or in any type of national park or Forest they should be banned from ever going there again. Or made to clean up trash until they get the lesson.

@revekat2053

3 күн бұрын

In the future robots will probably be picking up the trash from the mountain.

I know 2 people who climbed Everest. One of them even saved another Climber who had become disoriented up on the Mountain. That was in 1997

400 hundreds Nepali climbers and 200 foreigners have reached peak this year. In another word . 400 hundred Nepali climbers have carried 200 foreigners to the top.

Not a single person should be allowed to climb until the world’s highest garbage dump has been cleaned up(all the garbage removed). Then each climber thereafter is responsible for having there garbage removed. No exceptions!

@grayl5514

18 күн бұрын

Spot on. Everest is a microcosm of this planet and how we are wrecking it.

@hardrun77

16 күн бұрын

yup you pack it in you pack it out

@christopherbrown1730

2 күн бұрын

It will be almost impossible for Nepql to look the other way as the revenue is too hard to look past.

Shut the mountain down for a decade while sherpas are paid well to clean up the mess while the mountain and surrounding areas heal. Compensate the people who rely on the trade of climbers and then strictly regulate the qualified climbers if it ever opens again. Absolute disgrace and shameless monetisation of a stunning place.

@lf67hh28

19 күн бұрын

Nope.

@lisaborsella5412

17 күн бұрын

We ALL share this planet and everything on it , but you’d never know it. MONEY 💰 is why

@lf67hh28

17 күн бұрын

@@lisaborsella5412 Money is earned via hard work.

@DeeDee-ot2ly

14 күн бұрын

I don't understand who y'all think is going to compensate anyone without the climbers. They are the source of all income in this place. Therein lies the problem. Kapish?

@DeeDee-ot2ly

14 күн бұрын

I don't understand who y'all think is going to compensate anyone without the climbers. They are the source of all income in this place. Therein lies the problem. Kapish?

Such an insane display of humans DISRESPECTING their nature, creator, and only home…

With that many summits it no longer seems like an almost impossible thing to do. They’ve trashed that majestic mountain with their waste and filth left behind. It’s just not the same when I would hear about summits in the past. It now seems like almost anyone can do it as long as their bank accounts give them permission.

@lf67hh28

19 күн бұрын

6700 summits in 105 years. Extremely rare.

@Mila_Brearey

19 күн бұрын

Yeah ok, sure.

@debsam77

19 күн бұрын

@@lf67hh28 I was talking about recently and not something hundreds of years ago!

@debsam77

19 күн бұрын

@@Mila_Brearey then ok, sure!

@debsam77

18 күн бұрын

@@lf67hh28 I wasn’t talking about in one hundred years. I was talking about recently 🤷🏽

Human sacrifice is real. She'll keep taking humans until they leave her alone.

Stop the climbs. It is now just a dangerous tourist attraction. People have abused the mountain. Just return it to nature and stop making it a commercial enterprise. There is no need for anyone to go up, risking their lives. No more permits and leave the mountain alone. Too many unqualified and dangerous climbers in my opinion.

@karendawson9372

12 күн бұрын

Too much money to be made unfortunately

@BougieBlue

6 күн бұрын

@@karendawson9372yep .

@pfrstreetgang7511

3 күн бұрын

An ethical viewpoint but the amount of money Nepalese bureaucrats make off the permits is estimated to increase their personal incomes by a factor of 20.

@simbalantana4572

17 сағат бұрын

@@pfrstreetgang7511 The Nepalese and Sherpa people benefit greatly from Everest.

Anyone who wants a summit permit should also be required to volunteer for a season prior bringing down garbage in addition to paying

The poor Sherpas are the ones that suffer the most, they have families to support and these rich arrogant climbers don’t even tip enough, the government takes most the money.who provides for those families when the Sherpas die? Just sad.

The romance and mystique of Mt. Everest disappeared a long time ago.

@FrederickTheGrt

7 күн бұрын

Buried somewhere below the human waste and trash.

Imagine being the last person in line going up

I like the new narrator!!! 🎉

@kamakaziozzie3038

20 күн бұрын

idk…sounds more like a king than a queen to me

I think permits should only be issued to people if they’ve had experience of climbing other mountains. And they should put a limit on how many can climb. Climbing it is dangerous enough as it is on it’s on without having long lines trying to pass each other in such dangerous conditions.

Good place for the average person to go when they want to die.They just might get their wish. Some places are just not meant for inexperienced people to go.

Leave it alone. People do not belong there.

@debsam77

20 күн бұрын

I agree and for no other reason than the fact that there’s not enough oxygen to sustain human life and that tells me it’s no place for humans. I will say that I get people have passions and dreams so I’m not trying to be mean at all though!

@kamakaziozzie3038

20 күн бұрын

Population control through Darwinism

@deltalima6703

19 күн бұрын

18 out of 8 billion? Its just a money pit, its not even risky. 100 a day summit on some days.

If the first explorers of Everest had encountered all those dead bodies, they might have reasoned it was an ancient custom to go there and die, a form of ritual suicide if you will. It's a good place to go if you have a death wish. Chances are good that you'll get your wish.

I dont think the solution is to make it forbidden or to make it more expensive. I think you will need to raise the difficulty, to lower death rate. A person like me with no prior experience shouldnt be permitted to attempt it! I think first is to make it a real national park. Every equipment every thing should be tagged weighted and registered going up, and checked upon exit. Srict 0 trash policy. That is first. With trash that includes your dead body, that needs to go down to zero too. You need to have some kind of advanced certification and years of experience. Make it a real lifelong achievement, not a money thing. Black Belt kind of stuff. the culmination of 10 years hard training

@user-jq1ek2rl7d

20 күн бұрын

I totally 1000% agree with everything you said! Especially the trash and climber accountability for it and if one dies, work it out and get them down! Great advice! The money end and lack of experienced climbers is ridiculous!

@lf67hh28

19 күн бұрын

The only way to train your body for 8k peaks is on 8k peaks...you can't mirror it. That's why acclimatisation is key, and expeditions are 6 weeks long, with a massive base fitness demand as mandatory.

@andredarin8966

19 күн бұрын

No secret: the people who attempt this are self-absorbed, in it for a not-so-cheap thrill. It is beyond unconscionable that someone with a wife or husband and kids would risk their lives to prove something to themselves. I’d bet the people willing to risk their lives in this vainglorious pursuit have some major issues.

@user-jq1ek2rl7d

19 күн бұрын

@@andredarin8966 that's an excellent point and one I've always thought so true! 👍

@lf67hh28

19 күн бұрын

@andredarin8966 Do you share the same sentiments with fishermen? Officially, there is a higher death rate in that profession than climbing mountains. I think every single person has mental health issues, difference is I will always do what I choose to do with my life and money. Human achievement is the pinnacle of living.

What would be the alternative income for Nepal ?

They should bore a tunnel and create a lift shaft all the way to the summit. They should then blast the top off the mountain to flatten it out and build a restraunt and visitors centre so everyone can stand on top. 🙂 My idea is the best of them all.

@Deepsouthlaker

3 күн бұрын

Add a walmart

@andrewmeadows3232

Күн бұрын

Developers would line up with plans to maintain Everest's Nepalese/alpine feel while offering visitors of all ages a true mountaineering experience. Retail, office, and residential parcels available...

@OrvilleDelaCruz

15 сағат бұрын

Blast all mountains which are barren so boulders from it could be used as aggregates products and other boulders use for reclamation as what other countries are doing. Asked those who had explore the famous mountain what good they got or just egos.

Big difference to how many have summited K2.

I like the old narrator better

Sherpas need to unionize.

@pfrstreetgang7511

3 күн бұрын

They have attempted it on 4 separate occasions I'm aware of. The Nepalese govt "officials" have ruthlessly discouraged these attempts (including death threats or long term imprisonment to Sherpas) as it would expose the levels of unethical financial gains made by a minority of "tourism ministers".

The government could make $ by requiring physical fitness testing to be given a permit.

Looks like a parking lot, what fun!

You would think that of all people, the tree hugging, Patagonia wearing, granola eating, vegan friendly mountaineers would have more respect for nature and this once majestic mountain (now turned landfill).

@joyslove3858

3 күн бұрын

Exactly

@ElleDuderino

3 күн бұрын

Nah, people that climb Everest are super ego driven. This tracks.

Wow 24 hours to summit and Come back down uff cardio for sure! 😮

IMHO as one of the 7 natural wonders of the world and as a matter of deference it needs to be put off limits to any traffic!

each climber should be charged and held accountable. each item they bring with should be documented, photographed and upon returning down the mountain, they should have EVERYTHING the went up with PLUS an additional 3 lbs of garbage. they gotta get that trash off the mountain, that is unacceptable.

The world's highest cemetery and garbage dump. Everest should not be attempted by mountain tourists at all. Period. And all at the expense of the Sherpas and guides. It should be revered and reserved for true mountaineers that don't rely on being chaperoned to the top.

@robert-gq5th

20 күн бұрын

Agree but it seems like most of the deaths on everest are the expiriacned climbers

@schranzmartin

20 күн бұрын

well.. this ist what you think... and it´s ok but why do you care? On the mountain is not more garbage then in every small village in India... in the Alps, every year many more people die. The Matterhorn is the deadliest mountain in the world and still people take a guide and go up there. Why should this not be forbidden? In short.. you are just a victim of the ludest noise in the medias with the least facts.... so let people do what they want to do and do what you want to do.

@bhoopesh.p.4645

20 күн бұрын

You need to climb one 8000 m peak before applying for permit.

@debsam77

20 күн бұрын

⁠@@schranzmartinnone of them should be climbed. They are beautiful to look at period. Man destroys everything they come in contact with. And to call themselves mountaineers is a joke with all the Porter, Sherpas, ladders and fixed rope support it seems a fit grandma could do it. A place where there isn’t enough oxygen to sustain human life is NO place for humans. It’s worse than Stockton Rush taking paying customers to see the wrecked titanic when you can get a better view right here or on the discovery channel. But nooo, billionaires paid 250k to go down in a lemon submersible that imploded after he was warned it was a lemon!!!

@schranzmartin

13 күн бұрын

@@debsam77 have you been up there? and again.. why do you care? It´s a mountain like any other in the world where people go for reasons they don´t need to explain to anybody....

"The weather behaved well this season on Everest." Taming the mountain, taming the human being. Ego striving.

Getting up Everest hasn't been a respected accomplishment since '96.

Passing new laws seems like a good thing, but new laws have been passed nearly every year, it seems, but are simply not enforced. Since 99% of traffic on the mountain comes from large expedition companies, the Nepali authorities need only look to these groups for enforcement, and put BIG consequences on them if laws are not followed. And by BIG, I mean like revoking their permits for a two year period for a first offense, 5 years for a second, and permanent for the third. BUT they would never do this, as the money brought from these large expedition companies is huge! Nepal is one of the poorest countries in the world and the millions of dollars that comes in climbing permits alone makes a big difference, and that’s before ancillary spending in Kathmandu and surrounding areas. So yeh…if they want to solve the problems, the onus must be attached to the corporate expeditions, but I just don’t see that happening in a meaningful way.

The narrator sounds like the actor that played Dr Koresh in Heroes and Bloodsport in The Flash

There would be no way to regulate climbers requiring climbing experience to climb Everest. That would just create a black market for forged permits

I love challenges so I was going to climb Everest until I found out how easy it is. Hardly seems worth it now.

They should stop issuing climbing permits and issue clean up permits. The mountain should be closed for maintenance for a few years. Once it is cleaned up to a decent level, then issue a limited number of permits to a limited number of groups evenly distributed among the different regions of the world. I doubt that this will ever happen. But it is worth mentioning.

First, the government needs to step in and clean up the mess left on the mountain. Pay the sherpas to do this. A mandatory requirement for climbers would be required to have a climbers passport to have climbed a set minimum number of peaks before being eligible for a Everest climb. A mandatory fitness exam needs to be passed for each climber before stepping on the mountain. Climbers need to be charged a refundable deposit fee for the human waste and their garbage that they get back if they meet the set with the passport requirement. A set maximum number of permits annually to reduce line ups should be implemented. With the climbing passport it would reduce congestion and promote the sport on other peaks in the Himalayas to make up for any reduced revenue from Everest climb.

@lf67hh28

19 күн бұрын

All of this is already in place, maybe do your research before commenting.

Where’s the “Neeepal” side?

@RayneBubble.

17 күн бұрын

Underneeeth?

I thought they shut this season down?

The people moss effected by the trash are the climbers. Nepal could double the fee and put the extra, or some of the extra, towards creating a professional, high status bureau that pays Sherpas the top going rate to bring down garbage and bodies. The climbing paths coukd be cleared to allow clearing work. Plus, they could require each climber to not only bring down their own trash, but to also bring down some extra trash.

@brendaelder6

6 күн бұрын

Problem is they can barely sustain their own body weight coming down from lack of oxygen. They are not going to carry extra weight.

@DurgaDas96

6 күн бұрын

@@brendaelder6 Good point. How would you solve the problem?

Minimum VO2 max of 80 and a sub 2:30 marathon as a prerequisite for all non Sherpas & Porters…Problem solved

@rahilarious

19 күн бұрын

is 80 even possible? physically?

@miroslawkowalski3613

17 күн бұрын

You would leave that mountains only for top marathoners and cyclist then. Why!? They would be dying on that mountain. FYI Ueli Steck - one of the fastest climbers run his fastest marathon above 3:20. Does that made him slow in the mountains?

I saw a Sasquatch Back in 78

@miroslawkowalski3613

17 күн бұрын

Amazing! But honestly I would be more interesting seeing his Front.

Going up Everest with no gear and Sherpa is WILD to me.

@Marcus_C51

8 күн бұрын

Not only that, but without supplemental oxygen too?! How insanely stupid can one get? I think there definitely are those who go to Everest who have a death wish, he was probably one of them.

This problem exists only from the Nepali site. From the Tibet site there are no quese and not many faralities. Its a money and corruption problem of Nepal.

❤🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏

No ropes no ladder no oxygen bottles no food

Raise the price until there are 100 permits.

It seems $150K isn’t a lot of money to a larger part of the world’s population; as more and more people pay to get taken up. 🤷🏼‍♀️ I don’t see harm in raising the fees to definitely help offset the cost to keep the mountain clean. Can’t say we haven’t been warned or already well aware.

@lf67hh28

19 күн бұрын

The cleaning fee is part of that original fee...blame the Nepalese Govt.

I’m not clear on the exact rules but I think in order to run certain big marathons like Boston & NYC, you’ve got to show proof of having completed a certain amount of races/marathons prior to earning a number for the big one. Maybe that would work on Everest and help Nepal raise that revenue and tourism traffic.

The mess on Mt. Everest would be funny if it weren't tragic. The photos of long lines of climbers inching upward are perfect examples of collective insanity. The mountain should be thoroughly cleaned up and then closed to climbing.

@emarc37

19 күн бұрын

In a leftist utopia, yes. Some people prefer free will.

@pfrstreetgang7511

3 күн бұрын

Spot on with reference to "collective insanity."

so question: why wouldn't they make one way up and a separate way down?

@TrueSbStar

19 күн бұрын

probably an insanely high drop off on any other direction on the peak

@onepickledpeasant333

19 күн бұрын

@@TrueSbStar for sure its an insane drop on either side...no video or movie has ever scared me, till I watched Dr. Sherpas video on crossing to the summit, FAK gives me chills!! have never yelled at the tv screen before lol

@ElleDuderino

3 күн бұрын

Some people have done this but it’s much more challenging on the China side.

I think it’s a great idea to make people climb smaller mountains before Everest. That way the economy doesn’t suffer. Also no one should climb without a Sherpa. Using trails Sherpas have made is not good if they are not paid and then people go missing because they want to save some extra bucks. Finally ensure everyone takes their trash down. If people come back without trash then they should be fined heavily and not allowed to leave the country until set fee is paid and community service done.

They have lost all respect of the Everest, and made it into no more then a tourist actraction. So the mountain strikes back in a deadly way.

Nepal ought to close Mt. Everest for one year. Require one representative from every climbing company that has done business on the mountain in the past 10 years to spend one week cleaning up the trash. Guidance/oversight by Nepal government and administered by the Sherpas.

@lf67hh28

19 күн бұрын

You can't survive for 1 week on the mountain. So that's an incredibly naive comment. Also, the Nepalese Govt. Are paid handsomely to clean they mountain...they just embezzle the money. It's a them problem.

@lf67hh28

19 күн бұрын

Nope, silly comment.

Close it down, it is a garage dump and a body dump too. CLOSE IT DOWN, CLOSE IT DOWN!!!!

There needs to be only experienced climbers on the mountain and only a couple of people from a smaller amount of expeditions allowed to go to the summit. Clean up of the mountain needs to happen quickly and no plastic allowed on the mountain. The amount of money made should be divided between the people who make their living from the expeditions and the amount increased annually. The expeditions should have to account for every item taken to the mountain and it must be accounted for at the end of the journey plus as much garbage as they can collect. Cleaning up the mountain should be more important than the summit.

@lf67hh28

19 күн бұрын

Nope, wrong.

Make attaining a permit much harder, make it so you have to have submitted 2 or 3 8000m mountains

@lf67hh28

19 күн бұрын

Naive comment. Everest is actually one of the easiest 8k peaks, there are 14 total...all require permits and large fees. So tell me, which other 8k peaks should be done first? K2 and Annapurna are far more deadly, for example. 😊

@miroslawkowalski3613

17 күн бұрын

@@lf67hh28 "Everest is actually one of the easiest 8k peaks" - that is actually not true. Mentioned by you Annapurna is easier - more deadly - true, but technically easier (normal route). That final Everest ridge is not easy if you take fixed ropes! And I also think that requirement of at least two attempts (not necessarily tops) above 8k is reasonable. There are Cho Oyu, Manaslu, Shisha Pangma, Broad Peak that are easier and should be climbed in a first place. Problem is majority of Everest climbers are simply not interested in any other mountain.

날씨가 좋아 등산할 수 있는 날이, 며칠 안되다보니, 한꺼번에 저리 몰리는 건데. 적게 허가해준다고 해도 해결될 수 없어 보임. 날씨 때문에.

Nepal needs to start charging $250k US to climb all their 8kers. That will regulate the crowds while bringing in the money. Everyone isn't entitled to climb it when they're not Nepalese or Chinese.

@nickieshadowfaxbrooklyn5192

5 күн бұрын

Chinese aren’t entitled to climb, you must get a special permit to go to Tibet

Raise the permit fee sufficiently to pay local people to clean up the mountain.

The world's highest traffic jam

Hi, the name is Cliff, drop over sometime

Whatever you pack in, you should pack out don't leave your waste and garbage to ruin this pristene mountain.

Nepal makes lots of laws and rules but never enforces them sadly. 😌

Nepal must set limits and rules and enforce them religiously. 650 summiters is too much and adopt a zero tolerance policy on trash and waste.

With so many successful climbers, what is the reason to climb? Been there, done that! Go do K2!

Nobody who hasn't climbed a 6000 meter peak and at least visited Nepal once should be allowed to propose rules for the climbing of Everest.

@philiphill6697

Сағат бұрын

Well there is the common sense factor.

There are ZERO sane people who would currently choose to 'climb' Everest.

Climbing Everest should be totally banned for 5 years or more, the mess these climbers make is deplorable. Yes Nepal makes foreign currency but enough is enough.

This is like less wealthy people oceangate

You are an AI queen

2.27 this is only thick.......

Its a job for the sherpas, nothing more. A shame if one of the sherpas loses their life, but those tourists are just disposable. I care more about russian troops in ukraine than I care about those tourists, at least the troops mostly got forced to go.

I think they should close off the mountain to climbers for quite a few years so it can come to life again and clean up all the garbage. 🇨🇦

@deltalima6703

19 күн бұрын

Its not a rainforest. 10 years changes nothing, the place is a time capsule.

Money .. Nepal needs the money.. they will keep coming until another mountain is formed

you pack it in you pack it out paying porter's to pack it in paythem to pack it out

Stop the inexperience from climbing Everest. These people need to earn the right to climb Everest. At least 3-4 other high altitude peaks. Make it safer for everyone!

@deltalima6703

19 күн бұрын

Thats not enough either, you can buy an aid climb carrying almost nothing on lots of tourist mountains.

@lf67hh28

19 күн бұрын

Everest is the easiest 8k peak. The others you suggest trying are certainly more deadly, and cost just as much.

Raise the price to climb to a million dollars per ticket. Give half to the sherpa carrying all the stuff for the rich foreigner.

Is it worth it?...... most will say yea and that fks with my head

So many people have died on Everest it will become a massive headstone and rubbish tip.

Why are all of you Westerners so pissed off about what happens in Nepal.??? Let them handle their own affairs. 😮

“This year the expedition doctors, experts entrusted to fix ladders across the kumbu icefall” no wonder people are dying the doctors are fixing ladders and the Sherpas are practicing medicine? 🤣

@deltalima6703

19 күн бұрын

Dont get good if you dont practice. 😉

@bongiswamelane4777

15 күн бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Climbing is not my favor and never.

This mountain is in Nepal and Tibet. All the rules and shoulds are up to them.

Everest isn't the World's highest peak.

They need to have choppers that take people for emergency checkup or close the mountains because large numbers have died.

To each his own. Everybody is going to die. What if anything do you want to do before that day? I'll bet anyone who makes up their mind to scale Mt. Everest has more guts than all us armchair commentators combined.

@brunorigo

20 күн бұрын

More money mainly

@debsam77

20 күн бұрын

And they can have the guts and all the glory because I have no desire to climb and trash a beautiful mountain. Man has destroyed everything they’ve come in contact with. Man is NOT the masters of the Universe because nature can kill us with one single blow. Tornadoes, earthquakes, floods and hurricanes, which can’t be helped, but when you deliberately walk into danger it’s hard to have empathy. And are they real mountaineers with the ladders, fixed ropes and Sherpa support 🤔

@antonioforestgardens697

20 күн бұрын

@@debsam77 Thank you for the comment. People are not all the same. I'd agree that the vast majority are lacking in respect of our collective nature resources. Yet remember, (or maybe no one has told you yet, [or even possibly you have doubts]), mankind WAS created to expand the borders of the "garden" , name the animals and have dominion over all living things, including plants and animals on earth. I interpret this to include minerals as well. This is to say in a sense we do have an inherent right to explore and exploit, and with that right comes the responsibility to care for and protect, if not we (individuality) will be held accountable in the last days. As a near centenarian, and a land owner for decades, I have established and maintain one of the most biodiverse, biologically based organic live food forests on the planet. Anyway, have a great day and thanks for listening to me 'rant '.

@debsam77

20 күн бұрын

@@antonioforestgardens697 I love these type discussions but mine was deleted and I wasn’t rude in any way. So I’ll leave it alone but found it an interesting debate which can’t be debated if someone’s comment gets deleted when there was no profanity or being rude.

@antonioforestgardens697

20 күн бұрын

@@debsam77 me too! Just so you know I for one read your comment and agree there was no reason to take it down. BTY it is still up on your channel I just checked. This forum whereby complete strangers can converse on various topics has the potential for positive changes in society so keep typing! ❤

Earthquake do happened in Nepal or in China but still Mt. Everest maintained its height as the highest mountain. Nepal which earned money must install fixed roping support system in the event climbing incident do happen or when avalanche occured.

Maybe the Nepalese government should auction permits and limit the number to half a dozen or so.

@x_isaka

17 күн бұрын

Action to cheapest??😂😂😂 Or highest😂😂😂

People must be absolutely stupid to risk everything just for the sake of climbing a lump of rock covered in ice.!!!

@FrederickTheGrt

7 күн бұрын

It's a turd pile covered in garbage and human feces.

What a joke

needs to stop climbing trashing

So dangerous don't go people it is not worth it

Everest summit is a personal choice, however the government of Nepal should consider reducing the number of permits issued per year and impose heavy penalties to those who are littering the mountain.

Shut the mountain down for a decade while sherpas are paid well to clean up the mess while the mountain and surrounding areas heal. Compensate the people who rely on the trade of climbers and then strictly regulate the qualified climbers if it ever opens again. Absolute disgrace and shameless monetisation of a stunning place.

@gamergirl411

19 күн бұрын

💯 agree pay the Sherpas to bring down the garbage. They would be the only ones qualified. It's sad a majestic mountain has become a dumping ground. What happened to leave no trace? And yes prove you can climb instead of putting other people's lives at risk. I saw a video where one of the fixed lines was deliberately cut. WTF?