Be sure to check back here for updates! And please let me know any of your experience selling these. -- UPDATE -- Still not much interest (a few views; no messages). Continuing to relist and will see what happens. Currently priced at $25.

@chrishayes5755

2 ай бұрын

There's not much to say. You got 6 views. In marketing we look for what's called statistically significant data before drawing any conclusion. If you can't get that organically, drop $20 into ads and target the exact demographic who would buy it. Then you can make a determination about product viability. Also keep in mind if you're trying to get organic marketplace traffic nobody is searching for "condiment organizer".. that makes it problematic. It's a very niche item.

@foomanchoo80

2 ай бұрын

I'm in Indy as well and saw Peech's video on this, wondered how they would sell. As it gets warmer I'm sure these will sell, hoping you sell a lot.

@Blah-blah-sure

23 күн бұрын

Watched your video, again. Hopefully as the weather gets better; your sales will pickup!

@jeremiahbell7496

11 күн бұрын

What about now?

@Corey.Deaton

10 күн бұрын

@@jeremiahbell7496 still nothing. I’ll try revamping the post this week and see if anything changes. Still getting questions on planters though (probably every other day) which is a bit surprising. I thought that season would be pretty much over at this point.

My man! Awesome video and thank you for your kind words. And kudos to you for doing what most are afraid to do... take the first step! Like many have said a big part of this is timing. I usually try to give ideas for the upcoming seasons... but give it some good warm days and you'll see a change... but the money for this one isnt on marketplace. Ok, so this is what I want you to try. First... ditch the no background pics. Remember... people need to see what these will look like in their setting. So for staging show them what they can do with them. Paint the legs of one with trending colors... nothing bright... like a grey/blue and a darker grey. Leave the slats natural color with an exterior finish. Then one with just the exterior finish. Now stage the heck out of these. Quality pics. Then offer them on your PERSONAL FB page first. Just let everyone know that your starting a woodworking side hustle and taking orders. Tell them that you would appreciate a share (and hopefully the snowball effect kicks in). There are several other strategies but start with this. Bring your price back up and offer a discount for multiple orders. Just keep trying different things. You have to have eyes on product to sell it. You've got this brother.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Hey! Thanks Matt! I appreciate the advice. I'll start implementing those tips moving forward. You inspired me to get into woodworking a few years ago now (and you're also a huge influence on starting KZread as well). You do awesome work. Keep it up!

@MatthewPeechWoodworking

2 ай бұрын

@@Corey.Deaton No worries at all. Just keep in mind that markets for items are different everywhere. Some are selling the crap out of these in the southern states and others aren't selling any. When you know your marketing is spot on and still not moving product... then change product... that's business. Focus on upcoming holidays as well when advertising. "Great father's day gift".... Keep at it man and ignore the haters. If you have trolls then you know your doing something right lol.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

@@MatthewPeechWoodworking Very true. Thanks again for the advice and the work you do.

I think that the weather is a big thing. Last spring by I made a bunch of flower boxes, and they sold like crazy. I made some more over the summer and into fall, and they didn’t sell at all. Knowing when to make/market different items is key in selling them. I’d imagine those picnic table things will sell a ton better towards Memorial Day weekend and over the summer (4th of July, etc). So, if you have the time, stockpile build a few sets now so that you have them for later. Worst comes to worst, you helped to further your woodworking skills, and you made something that could easily be given as a gift to friends/family (moms and grandparents tend to love these kinds of things)

I built 2 of his concealed top coffee tables and sold the first one in a week and second one built for someone who pre paid. Take a chance on something of his with a little more time and materials and you will be surprised. Matthew peach hasn’t let me down yet .

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Good idea. I've made a lot of smalls recently, mostly because they are a lower time commitment (and it has been cold in the shop). But now that the weather is warming up, I'll have to make a larger project. I think the concealment table was the first Peech video I saw. Was a very cool build. Kudos to you for making a couple of them!

love the video! Watching Matthew Peech always gets me motivated as well!

This popped up in my feed and I'm so glad it did :) Very refreshing and real perspective on the usual YT woodworking frenzy LOL Liked, subbed, bell on and looking forward to getting the next instalment in the Picnic Tabla Saga 👍

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Hahaha I’ll keep you updated. And thank you for the support! Glad you enjoyed the video. Have a great day.

i like Matthews videos as you do. So your´s popped up! i hope there will come more about this . THX Corey

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Matthew is great. I’ll keep you updated. Thanks for watching and for the comment!

Don't let it get you down. I made one of his planters and it turned out way better than I ever could've imagined. Yet I couldn't even get my wife to take it for free. Now it's the kids' outdoor ball bin.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

🤣 well at least it is getting some use haha.

Good Job Corey, taking action can be very difficult for some reason! Keep Pushing!!

My uncle used to sell these in the Rochester NY area 30 or so years ago. Interesting to see they are still an item.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Wow! That’s pretty cool. Interesting how things disappear then come back around like that. Probably harder to disappear nowadays though since everyone’s got a camera and what we do exists forever.

Great job Corey, I’m also a big fan of Matthew Peech and have bought plans from him to build some more complex projects. Keep pushing yourself and I’m sure you’ll find success

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Thanks, Kevin!

Good honest video, thank you! Trying to sell items it's a crap shoot sometimes. Good luck to you and to everyone out there trying to sell what they craft.

Thanks for this video and looking forward to your update. I have been in the same boat as yours i.e. watching Matthew's videos and then doing nothing in spite of a desire to do something - LoL. Would love to hear how things turn out in near future. Hope you get orders flowing in soon - Good luck !!

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

For me, I think a lot of it is because he releases his videos on Sunday. It’s much harder to make it to the shop throughout the week compared to the weekend. Thanks for the support!

Thanks for the honest experience. I think weather played a factor too. I follow M.P. too and are beginning to make planters for the season. Wish me luck in the Southwest!

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Best of luck! Thanks for watching.

Kudos for getting out in the workshop and just doing it. I built a few of his planters, and even dropped a couple of them at a local florist. To date I have not sold any yet, but am hopeful as Springtime is here.

Can’t wait to see more

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! I hope this brought you some value.

First thank you for the open, honest and transparent video. Its refreshing to hear. I often wonder how much on KZread is 'staged' or part of the 'fake it until you make it' movement. Just to be clear I'm not saying any KZreadr in particular is doing this, but I am sure SOME are. MANY of the content creators are actually making MORE money on their content than on the actual business they are running. That being said, I made these squirrel picnic tables as well. Not a single one sold via FB Marketplace, HOWEVER I did sell a dozen of them to friends, family and coworkers. They basically sold via 'word of mouth.' I've found that FB Marketplace is fickle when it comes to selling. The algorithm seems to be wonky. I've listed other items (non woodworking) and asked people to find it on Marketplace. A good majority of the time they couldn't even when I gave them the EXACT wording for the title of the item. Additionally when I browse marketplace much of the time it shows me items much further away than the 20 mile radius I have set. Again I have MUCH respect for Matthew Peech and have been inspired by his videos! Thanks again for the video, its actually encouraging. Namaste.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

I'm glad I could share with everyone an honest take on the market. Smalls can be tough to do online. Also, you made me think of something I should have mentioned. I turn on the "Hide from Friends" option when selling so I don't skew the sales results. Definitely nothing wrong with selling to friends and family, I just don't want to falsely inflate how well something sells.

@SterlingStudios

2 ай бұрын

@etrip111 agreed, I've gotten only a few hits off of marketplace, my sales have been either by the amount of vehicle volume that is front of our house, or by word of mouth, or by neighbors that have physically seen me making items and come up to ask what I'm making.

@pepsilove6306

2 ай бұрын

the more artsy stuff like the picnic tables sell better if you make a shop front on web pages like Etsy. FB marketplace is way more fickle about time of year and trends.

This is the most candid and honest video I've seen in a long while. This is an amazing video and down to earth overview. Please do an update on more projects that you build. Have you tried marketing through Etsy?

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for the support! I have not tried Etsy, but I'm going to start it this week to see how well these items will sell over there.

Try holding off on your listing until May 1. Then, promote them for Memorial weekend. I've been in the retail business for a long time, and you have to follow your seasons. You can promote them 2 more times for 4th of July and Labor Day. I hope this helps!

In my experience, Matthew Peech builds are good for learning. Some people are successful selling his items, but I've only been successful selling a few of the purple Martin birdhouses. I've done much better selling things that are less common. I sell three-tiered outdoor planters. Matt's are awesome, but also a lot of work. I have a simpler design that sells very well and this is the second year in a row for me. The person I got the plans from said He did very well for 2 years before I got them. I use a lot of Matt's techniques in trying to come up with my own flare on things and those sell better on marketplace. Good luck going forward!

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Definitely better to have something less common on the market. I'm glad you've got a design that works for you. Thanks for the comment and good luck to you as well!

Just like you, I love Mathew Peech I even bought some of his plans from his Etsy store they are great. I agree with you closer to summer I think the picnic table will be in high demand so I think you might need to make more to be ready for the demand.

The real money is in a KZread channel with lots of subscribers and "likes". There's also money to be made in selling plans for projects. The market is inundated with people like us that make things after watching videos and being told all about the huge profit margins. I've tried making and selling a few with limited success. Good luck to you and to all of us trying to make a buck.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I think there’s a lot of money in novelty. I remember one of the first Peech videos I saw was his concealment coffee table. It was very cool, and not something you generally want to just buy off Amazon. I also think it’s important to time your builds with the seasons and what is in demand. Matthew is good about that in his advice.

@NeanderthalDogma

2 ай бұрын

Did u try selling on nextdoor

@nadiemequire

2 ай бұрын

@@NeanderthalDogma Yep, tried Marketplace, Craig's List, Next Door and even a yard/garage sale. The problem is that so did a few other people. The market is flooded with DIYers that have watched videos on "low cost, high profit" items.

@chrism5859

2 ай бұрын

People are also getting really careful with their money. For folks earning just enough to get by, their extra income is getting eaten up by higher costs on life’s basics. Disposable income is disappearing and for now it is regional but I suspect by late summer/early fall it will get worse as they see higher heating and food costs on the horizon. Those same people that would have bought a well-built planter a few years ago can now barely afford to pay the bills. And let me tell you - those are the ones most likely to appreciate something a woodworker built in his garage, trying to make a few extra dollars.

@lolwtnick4362

2 ай бұрын

@chrism5859 this is half a lie. the poors cant afford much. bit they only buy what they're told like that new iPhone or Stanley mug. whatever is popular. the middle class have plenty of income, also follow trends and only buy New or Amazon products. why? because Amazon delivers and you can compare. Income makes little difference, the olive garden downtown is packed on weekends. so are steakhouses on football games and concerts are lined up with kids. people are not broke

I live in the Indy area as well. Can't wait till warm weather gets here. My shop is an unheated 2 car garage....complete with 2 cars!

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

lol that’s hilarious. Hoping for warmer weather as well.

I actually thought about making a video like this. Good job! I built Mthhew's X planter, put it on Facebook Marketplace and immediately got an order. Unfortunately I haven't had time to make more!

Subbed to help out another Hoosier. I watch Matthew too and after watching one of his videos I go check out Marketplace to see how many are popping up already. Needless to say there are several other people in the area who obviously watch his videos. I’d add to your description something like “hand crafted by a local Hoosier” or something similar. Hopefully things will pick up within the next 3 to 4 weeks cause the weather this week certainly isn’t going to get people outside.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

A local! Thanks for the sub! I really appreciate it. Matthew definitely has a large subscriber base. I’m going to modify my post a bit tonight and see what happens. Like you said, probably shouldn’t hang my hat on the upcoming weather.

Definitely have to consider the seasons when making some wooden pieces. Some pieces, especially indoor pieces can sell year round. Holidays can be good money making times. When i used to set up at flea markets I learned the more you have to offer the better the sales. some things don't sell very good but don't toss them. Mixing some of them with the pieces that do sell just keeps the offerings stocked. Of course you want more that sell than don't. I did airbrush work and had a couple hundred different designs for car tags. Some I never sold but many did. Car tags are personalized so offering items you can put the customers name on can help sales. I'm retired now and looking for a way to make a little extra money and I like woodworking so getting started with that. Slow going because like what you said about getting motivated and then not doing anything is where I am. lol. Actually getting started is often the hardest part.

@Corey.Deaton

7 күн бұрын

That is very cool and valuable to have all that experience in sales. I’m sure it helps you in your woodworking business as well. It can definitely be tough to get started. There’s two things I bounce between for motivation to get out there: 1. Take time to clean my shop / get stuff set up for what I want to make. Basically, make it as easy as possible for myself to get started. 2. Commit to going out to the shop for 5 minutes. If I’m still not feeling it, I have permission to call it a day. But more often than not, I get into it and get work done.

I’ve really found that my own unique stuff is what sells. And that makes sense, these KZreadrs have huge followings so there will be a ton of people looking to jump on any good profit margin item and make it harder to carve out a niche.

I have made about 10 of the tables. At this point I have not tried to sell them. My granddaughters love them as picnic tables for thier barbie dolls and other dolls. I will try to sell them this Christmas. Good luck with your venture.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

That is awesome! They are a perfect size for that. I’m sure they love it. And good luck to you as well.

i made 2 sets of these & sold one set so far this April 2nd in N. S. Canada mayby will sell more when summer gets here i hope

Your video found its way to me I'm assuming because I watch Matthew build all these things with pickets. I have built the tapered flower pots and the trellis. My sales on marketplace, like you were zero. I did sell two pots to a family member and my porch looks nice with one on each corner.😂 Now back to you. I never even seen your name until I was curious and went to your channel. One- your close to me. I'm in western KY, two -we both do woodworking -and three and mainly, we have the same last name..lol. Isn't that just rich! 😂😂

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

lol that’s awesome. Nice to meet a fellow Deaton. I just started posting about three months ago, so not surprised you haven’t seen anything from me. Thanks for sharing! I appreciate the support.

New sub here, thanks for the short and concise evaluation. I’m in Cincinnati area, also a woodworker and Matthew Peech fan. I was thinking of trying some of his planters now that spring is on the horizon, but when I look at Facebook marketplace I see these things all over the place for $25 and $30. Not even enough to waste time on IMO. I echo most of the comments, unless you come up with something no one else is doing, the strike window for these products closes very quickly. And even then it won’t last long once it gets out on KZread. One has to have a novelty idea, or one that has a very high barrier to entry for example something that requires an expensive tool like a cnc or laser engraving capability.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub! The market does get saturated pretty quickly. The best differentiator is personalization or just good marketing / visuals. I'll make a video soon about the laser I bought. I think it was about $150 (last year) but I get a ton of use out of it. Also isn't as difficult to use as I thought.

Thank you. Whiffers are as important as solid hits.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

No doubt. I usually make things I won't be too upset keeping or giving as a gift haha.

Love the perspective Corey thank you. Try putting some food on the table so the customer doesnt have to imagine their family around it (the empty table). Idk just trying to help.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

That's a good idea!

biggest problem i experienced is that people want your product for nothing, mostly because theyve never purchased wood products etc. and theyve never taken into account the time to prepare the project ...so we as woodworkers have got to educate the buying public as to why the cost is what it is

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

True, not everyone values the handmade aspect of products. I think it helps communicate the value if there is some story behind the product though, like restored / repurposed wood.

@theKNI

2 ай бұрын

You're right but there's a way to counteract that a little bit which is to market "yourself", not just your products. Especially with social media, you have an opportunity to show people all the aspects of your craft that they cannot do nor even comprehend such as length of time it takes, the costs, your ability and your passion. You effectively make it into your life story which is what lots of people love to invest in. They want to support YOU, not a faceless, nameless woodworker and if you engage with them fully, they will spend more on your items than they would on someone elses meaning you can command better prices for your products over time. I think most people miss this out of their strategy, mainly because they're shy about showing their work, their mistakes, or their personality but it's part of building a brand rather than just making some stuff and slapping it on Etsy then waiting for it to sell. The brand is YOU. Of course you still won't get sales from the people who want it as cheap as they can get it from China but you don't really want to sell your unique, carefully hand crafted item that your poured your soul into to the person who doesn't value it the way you do. If you get it right though, you will start to get sales from the people you engage with who are actually interested in the true value of a craftsman and his / her work. You may have to practice your camera work, your social skills and even change some small aspects of your personality such as how you dress or present yourself in order to garner interest but it's really worth it. 👍

@lolwtnick4362

2 ай бұрын

based on time worked? Lmao thinking like a true hourly wage earner. you gotta think in efficiency and value. most people starting out have no uniqueness or build something and expect sales. i set up a quick and easy station, dont care about profit and way undercut you and everyone else. $3 a table.

#1: If you are going to make more than one of any project, make jigs! I make similar items as squirrel feeders and jigs cut the time down by 70%. #2: I find items like these sell better at farmer’s markets and craft shows! #3: Always try to personalize and tweak other builder’s designs and make them your own! Cheers!

I bought a mini outhouse once made from old pickets as a gift. I think my mom uses it for planting stuff but literally this kinda stuff just takes up more space than the items you use in or on. Cute and all but very limited customer base. I’ll make one for paper towel and instead 4 or so cup (beer) holders maybe for cornhole tournaments

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, the paper towel ones are actually useful. The condiment holders are mostly just decor.

Indiana as well. Been trying to sell on Facebook as well. Also got to remember that people in Indiana usually don't have much money.

Just found your channel, new sub!

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

You did great! Oddly enough I’m a subscriber to Mathew Peech. And I have my notification on, but haven’t gotten any video-updates?

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the support! Notifications for his channel or this one?

@Blah-blah-sure

Ай бұрын

His channel. Sorry a little late. But this video is good info, as well. ❤

Smalls can take time. Ive backed off them for a bit. Starting to get more conscious of my time too. Built some 2*8 ft cedar beds in the time it takes me to build and finish some squirrel tables. I was selling those for $19, the cedar beds are for me but see them for sale in the $450 and up range.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, the smalls need batched out, which generally takes a large block of continuous time. And that can be hard to come by.

You probably will get better attention around Mothers Day and the graduation party season. Good luck to you.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

I hadn't thought about Graduation Party season. I'll have to brainstorm some projects for that.

Subbed… coz who knew Matthew Peach uses fence pickets! 😂

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

😂 I need to look up the increase in picket sales once his channel got popular. It has to be significant.

I've made a variation of his tapered planter, farmhouse planter, and a design of my own. I like you have had zero messages and zero sales after 6 weeks. I live north of you near the Indiana/Michigan line.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, it is strange how hit or miss each area seems to be. I think you just have to try the market with different products until you find something that works in your area. I'm testing a few things right now and will hopefully be releasing a few videos about them soon.

Awesome video! To add, my 12 year old daughter and I recently did a variation of the mini picnic table condiment holder/paper towel dispenser. I listed it on our neighborhood marketplace site on 3/19 and got 19 likes, and 4 orders (but the 4th went MIA) in a couple days. Not sure how many clicks or saves...doesn't tell me that. Sold for $35 each but it was a bit bigger and combined the 2 ideas. I was happy so on 3/26 I expanded to bigger market areas including regular old marketplace. So far I've got 363 clicks, 26 saves but a big fat goose egg for orders. What gives?!

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Very smart. Having both does take up quite a bit of space. Yeah, that is a lot of traffic for no response at all. Very strange.

I haven't tried to make money yet, but I've built two concealment coffee tables of his and love doing them. Sometimes the build instructions you can get arent the best but they get the idea across. I would suggest never putting photos with a blank background or with dimensions because that's what pretty much every dropshipping item looks like. Stick with organic photos, you can get the gist of the size from the staged photos without feeling like you are just buying some off market crap

I enjoy his videos too. At least the ones where he builds unique stuff. The ones where he tosses together a sloppily built project and compares it to “the old PB” are laughable, but he found his niche and is doing great with it.

So you made a seasonal item outside of the season and you're surprised it didn't sell? I'm confused

I watched a wood project video once. That somehow got your video into my feed. You are 171 subscribers today. I sub, and see how long it takes to get you to 1000. You have 7.5k views, so KZread most definately promoting you. Good production. Good luck.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the support! I hope you enjoyed the video. KZread promotes videos that: 1. People click on. 2. People watch for a long time (and 3. People like and comment on So really, you are promoting me by doing those things. So thank you very much!

Well, these are also on amazon. I guess folks made so many that it dropped the price down to about $17 or so. The problem with social media, it drops the prices so you can't make much more profit. They don't pay for labor costs when you build anything anymore. Most people want it for practically FREE in this economy, and I never work for free.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

That makes a lot of sense. Larger, harder to ship items probably perform better. Or things that are personalized.

@qlogic2002

2 ай бұрын

It's also hard to compete with temu and Amazon (aka overseas labor).

I did the chicknic table idea. I did my own build which is different than what he did. It had several views but not a single message. I found someone else locally that did the exact same build as Matthew Peech's one. So there is the issue of building something posted recently because others will jump in. The key points are being original and finding the right price. Raised beds are blowing up locally which he talked about too. I was able to sell mine because I used screws where others were doing brad nails.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Yes, raised bed planters seem to be very popular. Brad nailing is sooo much easier. But adding screws is definitely more secure and a great differentiator. Thanks for sharing!

Just subscribed to your channel,I will say that I do not purchase pickets at a lumber store.There is a fence company near me that gives you free pickets jjust for the asking,they need sanding and nails removed sometimes but a lot of them are 6 to 8 feet long so you can cut sections without the nails to use.I have sold many things and know you need a large variety of products,some at a low price and a few higher priced.You have to sell for the season you are in also.It it is hard to recover labor cost in any project.Hope this helps and God bless.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Hey! Thank you for the sub! The fence company is a great idea. I'll have to look in my area. The labor price is definitely hard to recover. Thankfully *most* people who do woodworking enjoy being in the shop though. There are worse places to be.

We built one of these as a protoype and took it to a local woodworkers club. Not one person liked or would consider selling them even if they were donated to the club for free.

Subscribed.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the support!

I'm 100% sure you're just too early in the season, don't give up!

I've found that there are better times to list than others. I've noticed I get way more views if I list on Friday afternoon.

I built these and my wife loves them so much she "ordered" 5 more sets to gift to family and friends. One note, though: the paper towel holder will NOT fit a paper towel roll from Costco. You have to use the skinny little single rolls maybe from the Dollar Store.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

That's a great point about the Costco rolls. I also found that out pretty quickly 🤣 I'm working on an "order" today placed by my wife for a different build. She keeps me busy 🙂

Get rid of the plastic push stick and get something that will actually help and protect you.

Did you list them as local only or offer shipping?

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

I ended up doing just local with all three options (door pickup, drop off, and public meetup).

Last year I made some small planter boxes and I put them on Facebook marketplace and they didn’t sell. Last month I started getting some sales and I’ve sold 10 of them

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Nice! I'm glad you are finding some success. Keep it up!

How did you do the dimensions on the photos?

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Someone else asked this question, so I made a KZread short to show how. Go to my channel and click on “Shorts”. There’s only one there, but it shows you how you can do it for free. But if you have any questions after watching that, let me know!

Have you offered to ship it? Maybe in other states you’ll find your customers.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Haven’t offered shipping yet. I’m trying to keep it local since I know that is preferred by most people. So I’d like to give a somewhat realistic picture of that. I think I’m going to try Etsy though for some upcoming builds to give people an idea about how builds perform on that platform.

Great video. Good luck. I subscribed. Also, I am not sure, but for some reason, I believe that Matthew has a background in marketing. I think I heard or read that somewhere, so you may need a few tries to get that right. I would also look for other places besides Etsy to try and market your projects. Good news that you got an order from your wife. My wife orders more from me than anyone else.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub! I had not heard that. I'll have to look into it. Yes, my wife keeps me in "business" :)

@GodsMan500

2 ай бұрын

My wife gives me plenty of orders, too, but I mostly ignore them.

@harveymyers6391

2 ай бұрын

@@Corey.Deaton I did a bit of research and I am not correct. His background is in nursing. He must either be a natural or be self trained. Many of the things he talks about, I have heard in some of the marketing classes that I have taken and books that I have read. Something to consider in your ads. People do not buy a drill because they want to own a drill. They buy a drill because they want a hole and more importantly they want a hole that will accomplish or solve a problem. Like hangin a picture or getting an electrical wire thru concrete. Try to consider and emphasis what problem your product solves. Good luck, I hope this helps.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

@@harveymyers6391 thank you for looking into this!

I made several 3 or 4 years ago and they sold well. I just subscribed. I also have a channel. thanks.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info and the sub! Just checked out your channel and you’ve got some great builds. Subbed as well. Keep up the good work

@myhoneyshandmade1077

2 ай бұрын

@@Corey.Deaton thanks much.

Been making condiment picnic tables out of old fence picket for 8yrs.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Very cool! For sale or for family? Any tips on selling them?

How were you able to get the dimensions in your photo for marketplace? I haven't been able to figure that out yet. :)

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Great question. I use a paid Canva subscription. It has free features, which I think this capability would be included. There are also free alternatives to Canva. I think the one I used to use is called PicsArt that you could do this with as well.

@tmorrgold4929

2 ай бұрын

@@Corey.DeatonThanks!!! This question has been surprisingly difficult to find an answer to.

@tmorrgold4929

2 ай бұрын

Lol, well, now that I've found the program, I guess I don't know what it's called that I want to do. Still a bit lost.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

@@tmorrgold4929 I’ll try making a KZread Short tonight to show the process. I’ll let you know when it’s uploaded. You could also just make sure other items are in the picture that give some scale.

@tmorrgold4929

2 ай бұрын

@@Corey.DeatonAwesome, thanks!

My problem with Matt's stuff is that I can't seem to find boring flat pickets at an affordable price. Everything I find at the orange store has a round face or is super narrow. Where do you find nice plain pickets? Maybe I'm searching for the wrong thing?

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

I generally go to the blue store, but I wouldn't say I've seen much of a difference between the two. But when I go, I sort through the entire stack and find the best ones for me. Generally I walk out with around 10 out of maybe 75 to 100.

@brianrogers8896

2 ай бұрын

Ah yeah it's not warping and bent boards. The ones I ran into last were intentionally milled with a curved profile on the front and were only maybe 3" stock. I'll have to check the blue store though. Are the literally labeled as pickets? Maybe we didn't believe in fences my way 😂

@brianrogers8896

2 ай бұрын

Found them on the blue website but only PT is in stock. I'll have to keep my eyes peeled.

The season isn't right yet AND the price may be too high for your area. I tried selling the chicknic tables at $20 and nobody was interested. I dropped the price to $15 and got buyers. See what everyone else in your area is selling similar items for and wait until after Mother's Day in the US when people start thinking about picnics and summer.

I have made a couple of these and only a couple responses in 2 weeks, no sales. I did get one telling me she could buy them on Amazon for cheaper.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! Did you have them priced similarly to mine?

@diggerslighting

2 ай бұрын

exact same price and price drop haha@@Corey.Deaton

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

@@diggerslighting haha, great minds think alike.

@GeneJordan

2 ай бұрын

That's when you tell the non-customer buying in Amazon that she will get what she pays for. She's probably saying that, hoping you will lower your price to the price she says they sell for on Amazon, which likely doesn't include the shipping or it will arrive unassembled.

The picknic tables are impulse buys. They sell best at flea market or farmer's market type events. Get the customers to TOUCH THEM and they will sell.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Agreed, thanks for watching!

I love his videos and so does my husband. He has a lot of great ideas. However, of all his projects this one wasn’t my favorite. I feel this picnic table condiment holder has been around forever and doesn’t seem very innovative like most of his other projects. It seems dated. I feel the same about the picnic table squirrel feeder. Maybe it’s because of where I live but I don’t see these items as big sellers. If I were you, I’d try something different. He always says items sell different in different markets. Maybe think about your location more when considering an item to build.

I would try selling them on Etsy/Ebay, only partially assembled for shipping.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

I haven’t ventured into online sales yet (mostly because I hate going to the post office). But I’ll have to give it a shot and share my experiences.

@pepsilove6306

2 ай бұрын

@@Corey.Deaton etsy is where you'll get rid of most the most crafty stuff far quicker. If you are handy with a sander and a chisel, my quickest moving items on Etsy are sections of 6x6 I widdle down to look like old 50's-80's model pick up trucks. I advertise them as playing card holders, candle holders or put slots in the bed to hold wooden coasters.

The only reliable repeat seller here for me in my area are the Kings woodworking Adirondack chairs. I didn't even buy the plans with the intent to sell them, I only wanted them for my gf and I, but neighbors all wanted them once they realized what it was I was making.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

I just looked those up and they look pretty sweet. I hadn't seen them before. Very cool though. How long do they take you to build?

@SterlingStudios

2 ай бұрын

​@@Corey.Deaton when I started with just a jigsaw and no marine spar varnish, about 4 days for a set of two. Not solid 4 days. Now I use a band saw and without varnish I can if I push my homeowner tools hard I can get a pair of chairs out in 3 days by myself. Varnish is my killer but they make a big difference here on the central east coast island of Florida, as customers are looking for longevity. My varnish adds a couple of weeks simply due to my limited table space available to me to do limited pieces at a time.

Don't feel to bad not selling them. There is no way I could get anything even close to what he sells things for here in the St. Louis area. People are to damn cheap.

Market dependent. Where I live everyone and their kids, literally, make planters like his for $15. No profit at all. My friend lives in a large farming area where very few do woodworking, and he sells planters for $50 all day long. He sells serving trays for over $100 each and is so backed up with orders that he had to stop offering customization and just offers 3 standard sizes. He also sells wooden coasters for $5 a pop and people LOVE buying them as presents for their kids’ teachers.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Whoa! He's in a good spot for sure. Interesting how different each market is.

I understand that it’s hard to get this stated but I have found if you keep reposting your merchandise it will start to pick up. My big seller is the multi tiered planter. Have sold 15 this month.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Whoa! Nice work. That is awesome. I will keep relisting and see if it picks up. Do you generally mark things as "sold" on Facebook? Or do you just leave the listing open? I'm curious how the algorithm responds to posts that seemingly aren't selling.

I also follow Matthew And have built several of his projects Not for sale but for personal use I recommend Matthew for all woodworkers

FB is a bust in my city (San Antonio) for this sort of thing. I've tried. You have to think about the demographic of the people that shop on FB. In my area, people aren't shopping FB for nice handmade stuff. And whatever they do find, they want it for less than what people are asking. It's like a flea market. If you're wanting to sell online, broaden your market and go to a place like Etsy. I started a year ago and I've sold over 300 items to 45 of the lower 48 states.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Nice, that’s good advice. People on Etsy are definitely looking to buy something, so probably easier to sell. What range of prices were your products? Small items or larger?

My latest videos is selling a different version of these with my own little twist. I had different results feel free to check it out! Thanks for putting this out!

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

I'll have to watch it! I went over to your channel and saw that I'd watched your coaster video from three weeks ago. Just subbed. Keep up the good work!

@beanstalkbuilds

2 ай бұрын

Awesome keep it up subbed as well!

I've built so many of his items and never sold a single one. Been paying 80$ a month for a year to rent a booth. Only thing that's ever sold was a table and a hand carved spoon. None of his items have moved for me.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Are you renting a table at a farmer's market or something?

@Clark42EoC

2 ай бұрын

@@Corey.Deaton yeah

Hey! the truth is out there. A youtuber who isnt making a fortune from a side hustle. These days the customer for hand crafted items expects a high degree of finish on the products they buy and of course value for the hard earned dollars asked for products. Its not as easy as some would have us believe is it. Thanks for your honest comments and video and good luck down the line.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Yes, definitely not as easy as it is made out to be. I’ll have to make some videos on things I’ve actually had sell next. Thanks for the comment!

@patrickhaupt5723

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, the real money isn't selling the projects. It's getting people to watch your videos.

I love dabbling in woodwork. I call it wooding. I liked the picnic tables, they are so cute but they take up too much space for what they hold. Storing them has to be annoying. The Christmas trees that he did. I think those can sell anywhere.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

I agree! Those are sweet. And Christmas items are better in general.

I can buy these at the dollar store.

I love watching Matthews videos. I get a lot of good ideas from him. However, and this is a big huge however, if you try to make what he makes to sell you are pretty much wasting your time. By the time you get yours made, half of the woodworkers in the country have found the video, made them and have them up for sale. Economics 101 takes over and the law of supply and demand kicks in so the prices tank. I've gotten to the point that if I see him show something on his channel to build, I know exactly what NOT to build for resale. Like I said I like his ideas. See what he builds and use that as a springboard to find your own unique idea. If you just copy what he builds, you are competing with a million other people doing the exact same thing for pennies.

Boiler up! Figure out way to add inexpensive customization, like identifying with sports/schools/military/police, find the groups. You have to break out.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Hammer down! Yes, personalization is a key aspect of selling woodworking products. And it’s not as directly competitive with Amazon. That’s part of the reason I bought a laser etcher.

One of the main problems with this item is that it requires 2 purchases. You have to buy the table and then the "round" bottom ketchup and mustard containers, as most sold in stores are oval. Also, once you purchased the empty round bottoms you would need to put so much ketchup and mustard for the 1 meal and would be transferring it back to the original containers after the meal, as storing the K&M in these are not air tight since the top has an unsealed opening. Cute item, but far from practical.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

That's a good point. This one isn't super practical.

@MattWeber

2 ай бұрын

Find your local bbq place, count how many tables they have and ask if the owner wants to do a bulk deal. Easy sales.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

@@MattWeber That's brilliant. Great idea.

I tried my hand at selling the more crafty stuff, it never sold. my best seller in my market area is the lamest blandest wood working project ever. I take empty wooden wire spools [the big plywood spools from hardware stores, Ace, menards ect lemme have them when they are empty.] I take them home cut them in half so I have two short stands with a round top, then literally just sand them nice n smooth and stain them. College kids for their dorms and first time renters needing some cheap furniture eat them up. But I also live in a college town. So cheap 30 dollar end table/ coffee tables they wont feel bad about abusing sells well.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Well it is nice to have something that reliably sells at least. Thanks for sharing!

Another problem is that everyone watches Mathew Peach then the market is swamped with cedar plank products. I looked at planter boxes on market place last night and the prices are all over the place. By the time you go to hardware store, buy materials and assemble. Your making maybe $10 profit but if it takes 2 hours to build your not making enough to be worth your time. I went down this rabbit hole. I have planter boxes and squirrel feeders from last year. Love Mathew’s videos but to many others in my area do too.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, it gets saturated pretty quickly. A lot of times I’m making stuff for friends and family, but it is nice to sell a few as well.

Keep going buddy. Please don’t quit. This condiment table is perhaps the weakest item he’s came up with though quite honestly. I make a bunch of his items as part of my product offerings and they sell really well. But when I saw this condiment table I immediately knew it was a dud. Try some other items and I’m sure you will have more success.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

I'll keep going for sure. I've got a modified version I'm going to show later this week. It's gotten significanly more interest, but still not selling though.

@alexreid4131

2 ай бұрын

@@Corey.Deaton the trellises and planter boxes will always do well. If you want a “fun” item of his that does well check out his squirrel adirondack chair. They’re a pretty big hit for me at least.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

@@alexreid4131 will do! Thanks

@alexreid4131

2 ай бұрын

@@Corey.Deaton wishing you all the best and Happy Easter from a fellow Jesus follower (at least that’s the vibe I got from your video apologies if that’s not the case).

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

@@alexreid4131 you are correct! happy Easter to you as well!

Maybe ........People figure they can just leave the condiments sit on the table for free..........

I have sold 1 planter for $30

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Nice! I’ve heard planters are picking up steam for this year. I’ll have to make some this weekend Thanks for sharing!

@Monstufpud

2 ай бұрын

@@Corey.Deaton I am sitting on 9 more for about 2 years so not that great

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

@@Monstufpud Not ideal. But now's the time to give it another shot on selling them. What area are you in?

@Monstufpud

2 ай бұрын

@@Corey.Deaton piedmont region on the east coast, I have had minor success with carpenter bee traps and bird houses

hmmmm

Good luck finding someone to even pony up $10 for that piece. There's no market for cheap trinkets like these, priced at $50 and up. The only thing Peech is selling are his videos and plans. Think of the get rich quick books. Not a single one of those work and the only one getting rich is the person selling the book. Now if you want to make fun stuff as a hobby and give away to friends and family, you will see a ton of success there! Friends and family always appreciate hand crafted gifts.

@71chevellejohn

2 ай бұрын

I agree, to a point. Most of these types of projects feel best suited for a craft fair, flea market or even a yard sale where people can pick them up and get a feel for them. Then they'll impulse buy in the $20-30 range. You're right about the creators making their money off of books and plans. I've watched so many go from "this is how to make it" to "buy my plans/courses/tools" or "subscribe to this group for makers". The passive money is where they're banking the most. Good for them, but it's somewhat deceptive to advertise it as a business move for anything more than a side hustle. Also, if you'd like to hear more from me, I have a course available where I walk you through making miliions from the youtube comments section! 😂😂😂

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

😂

lol

this is just another trend like the gold rush. people making the real profits are the ones selling the pickets and tools to make crap.

I can tell you there are 2 reasons they didn't sell: 1) You said it in the video. It's not picnic season in Indianapolis. That's like trying to sell tomato plants in November in Wisconsin. Have fun and good luck. Now, do tomato plants sell? Yes. Like a lot. People stake their livelihood on greenhouses, but they do their best to offer products at the right times. 2) These are "impulse buys." Meaning, you'll have better luck not only in season, but in person. Get to craft shows for things like this. Otherwise, it might begin to appear like you're seeking to make "clickbaity" to get "views" and "interactions" (you're welcome, btw). 😉

There are many KZreadrs that promote various small wood projects. I've seen them all and made many of the items. Most do not sell at all. Some do, but nothing to shout about. I made a bunch of the ADK chairs and have yet to sell one! What a time killer those were! They look cool, but no sales. Only build that which sells. If you think something will sell, go ahead and build only one! Then move on to something else! Perhaps a new career or hobby!

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Agreed, definitely best to test the market before going all out on one item.

SO, basically your losing money making them GG lmao

The only thing that sells are Matthew Peech's build plans on his Etsy shop 💲I really enjoy watching his videos, but I truly hate lying SOBs, so I unsubscribed as soon as I realised that he misleads his viewers into believing they can earn money by building these 'smalls that sell'. They do not sell. I have built several of these for my family and friends, gave them for free as gifts, If you watch Matthew remember one thing - the fact that a shop offers an item for sale at a high price, doesn't mean that anybody is buying it.

@MatthewPeechWoodworking

2 ай бұрын

Sorry you feel that way. And I teach every step in every video unlike other channels. Check out the woodworking for beginners page on FB. There are several people on their that sell my builds and can't keep up... so no excuses. You are the perfect example of how not to be... if you fail at something you have to blame someone besides yourself.

I’ve built several of his things

I made a few of his herringbone planter boxes last summer and sold them after about 2 weeks on FB marketplace. Decided to try again this week. Like you, I thought making a couple at a time would be more efficient. Overall, I think it was. I made a lot of mistakes when I first made tjem, so these went much better. I'll be putting them for sale this weekend.

@Corey.Deaton

2 ай бұрын

Nice! Having a good plan ends up saving a lot of time, but if I don’t do it regularly, it’s easy for me to mess up. If you remember, come back to this comment and let us know how it goes!