I know you wanted to see the 8.1, but I've wanted to do a Turbo 5.4 4-valve for years, so I'm finally gonna do it!

@kentuckyboy.92

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Good luck spitting out spark plugs

@bootstrap_8316

Жыл бұрын

More chains than brains lol

@senditc20

Жыл бұрын

Save the 8.1 for something else or a backup for ugly truck I’m not a ford guy but the thought of a 5.4 turbo Navi engine in a mustang sounds a lot better than the 8.1

@jdmmike7225

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Hell yeah, DOHC FTW!!!!

@pvsho94

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I like this idea! definitely build the engine first!

Waaaaaay more excited for this than a coyote. This will be great!

@neilbrown82

Жыл бұрын

Lol y older 4v's are turds compared to a coyote 🤣

@tomcelica

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@@neilbrown82 ya 11.5:1 compression will always win compared to 9:1. It’s okay though, I used to know very little about how engines work too. 😉

@neilbrown82

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@@tomcelica lol it's more than just compression ratio 🤣

@benjaminwatson7868

Жыл бұрын

@@tomcelica the 5.4 4v compared to the boss 6.2 and coyote is literally worse in every way

@White_Fox_5.0

Жыл бұрын

@@tomcelica not when boosted😂

Duuude, This looks like such a fun build! Thanks for taking us along on the ride. I love oddball builds and I’ve always wanted to do this but on a 6.8L V10 just to see what you could actually get out of one with a little love.

@KildalSMASH

Жыл бұрын

They are a pain to swap. I put one in my 07 F-150 and the lack of aftermarket ECU support makes it a nightmare

@jasonolmsted4147

Жыл бұрын

I’d rather see a v-10 was hoping for that too. But fords suck in my opinion lol

@KildalSMASH

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@@jasonolmsted4147 I'm a Ford guy, but I'm happy to see content that isn't just another LS/Hellcat/Coyote/2JZ swap

@jasonolmsted4147

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@@KildalSMASH I agree different is good. Still wishing it was a v-10 lol 😂

@southernracing2468

Жыл бұрын

I wanna do a v10 mod motor in my 01 cobra eventually

Definitely option two, build the motor while you have it out really curious what you could make naturally aspirated before forced induction

@benjaminwatson7868

Жыл бұрын

420hp practically

@arkhsm

Жыл бұрын

Not many seem to make good N/A power, but they love boost !!

@benjaminwatson7868

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@@arkhsm most engines like boost with stronger internals

@robsorgdrager8477

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Depends . The static compression could get a good bump, use some high lift long duration cams, good set of headers, use a PI 4.6 intake with port matched adapters, a 72 mm throttle body , c&c the stock heads...should be really close to 500/500 on E85 . You'd be better off using a non pi 4.6 with pi heads on it , c&c port/bowl/valve job , long 4 into 1 headers and a 125 HP kit of voodoo juice. The most important thing on any non-terminator mod engine is to get rid of the flimsy powdered metal rods. If your tune is anything other than perfect you will regret keeping the stock rods.

@benjaminwatson7868

Жыл бұрын

@@robsorgdrager8477 out of a 5.4

Good call on the navigator motor build. Used to be a much more popular swap and i think it's a very capable powerplant. Hoping we can see 4 digit dyno numbers outta this some day!

@LawrenceTolman

Жыл бұрын

I agree, I'd love to get it over 1,000. I know its been done countless times before, but nowadays the Coyote is the golden child for Ford, and the mod motors have been forgotten about

@joenewport6005

Жыл бұрын

@@LawrenceTolman if i remember right, the stock crank in these is good for quite a bit of power. I'd love to see it go through the progression of each stage and see what it makes and how capable it is in each form. Will this be staying manual the whole way or eventually going auto when it makes big power?

@melvingibson4525

Жыл бұрын

@@LawrenceTolman people used to get insane power reliably out of these in the 2000s it definitely can be done

@alpha2gproject783

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May want to reach out to Richard Holdenerd. He's built a couple Navi 5.4's and would have a lot of insight on what to improve and what to leave alone. The Navi is actually a great powerplant and realistically is just as capable as the coyote in a lot of ways but a lot more reliable. Less electronic parts and less mechanical parts such as cam phasers.

@neilbrown82

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@@LawrenceTolman but the coyote is a modular Ford engine nobody's forgotten those older engines they just don't waste their time with them when something better is available not to mention the Godzilla is out now as well

This is going to be a great build and I get the budget thing but I (and I think other viewers will agree) go with option #2. You said that you have always wanted to build one so why not build it the way you want it and have some fun with it!! Lookin forward to seeing this one come together!!! Great video LT and your channel is awesome!!! :)

Glad to see that you are sticking with a FoMoCo . Also excited to see this type of engine going into a stang...who would have ever thought that you can put a truck engine into a "compact" !

Biggest downside is the iron block on the 5.4. The engine is super heavy and physically large for making such little power. Expensive to modify with nearly no aftermarket options. I really wanted to go this route with mine but it just didn’t add up for me.

@donuthole7236

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the 5.4 lump weighs 190 lbs. The 4.6 at 153 lbs plus the 5.4 stroke is horrendous with the same bore which limits the valve size for such a larger displacement.

Go with option 2 now because it’s easier to work on it and upgrade the oil pump and timing set while it off the vehicle. I’ve built two 5.4 3v motors in frame and it was a nightmare when it came to the timing and cams. For good reference on build recipes check out Modular head shop they offer a 5.8l kit that’s good for 1200+ ponies, but like you said this could become your BOAT (break out another thousand).

At first I was like.. Uh-oh, it's *another* Mustang build.. Then you said "maybe put the 8.1 in it. I was like, yeah it's unusual. Love it. But, now you're using a Ford engine I've not even thought twice about. Any you're gonna boost it? Thats a whole next level of unusual and I love it! I hope your bucket list is long and every check box on it checked. It's sure fun to watch. Kudos... Greetings from the farm in South Carolina!!

I did this last year with a friend intake options are a PITA (so glad you figured that out, didn’t think to look abroad) Steering linkage is probably gonna have to be custom and most certainly moved (we just made our own) Install the motor with the headers already on, it is nearly impossible to install with them once the motor is dropped in. Some sensor is on the driver side instead of the passenger side forgot which one. Besides that everything is pretty much plug and play

Love seeing this, I’ve been researching doing this swap for the last couple months, only difference is I was looking at going NA with high compression and big choppy cams. Definitely going to follow to see what else I can learn about this process 👍

LT is my engine swap spirit animal. In the vast number of imaginary hot rod builds I’ve thought about this has been near the top of the list.

truck tech used the modular setup in the ranger build.....it proved it was worthy of boost and worth the time to work with

@LawrenceTolman

Жыл бұрын

yup, "Rolling Thunder" was one of my favorite builds they did!

What a great choice for engines. Please follow the budget path and juggle multiple builds. I think this will give you some good results because there might be other things along the way that will need to be upgraded to realize the full potential of the build. Cant wait to see how much more adding boost will give you with stock bottom end, rebuilt heads, and some modded cams. I think I would have opted for the SHO motors with hella boost and maybe try for an AWD caged build. Looking forward to the outcome.

I did something similar when I had my 2000 GT. Used a 5.4 f150 block with flat tops and forged rods, ported 03 cobra heads and boss 260 intake off an aussie car with a navigator ecm and harness. If I could go back in time with what I invested, I would have just done an LS though. This was back in 2009 and I was stubborn about wanting to keep it a Ford.

Super, super excited for the 5.4. I hope you keep it and go as far as you want. I’ve only seen these a few times and I can’t wait to see it this time.

I didn't know this motor existed, but the Triton V10 came to mind when you were describing oddball Fords. Do option #2 but just gasket (and other maintenance items) and ring gap it, keep the internals the same.

@ricktaylor3748

Жыл бұрын

Triton V10 is 414 cubic inch.

Love the build idea! Ive wanna do a weird one too where i take an sn95 mustang and drop a 4.2 v6 from the F150 with a standard transmission… ive heard they can make up to 350hp with a racy cam and higher compression but i think just bumping it up half way from that (275-280hp) with a standard transmission would be a lot of fun too especially with removing some of the limiters and a custom tune

I remember reading about Birdman years ago in forums, as soon as you hinted about the intake from "down under", I knew right away. I too thought of this swap years ago but never did it. Would love to finally see that intake and with a turbo!

I think this is a great swap. I thought about the 6.2 sohc motor as a candidate as soon as I saw the thumbnail and would like to see someone do that as well. I’d also like to see the v10 swapped into something

@masterwhopper414

Жыл бұрын

Somebody has swapped the 6.8 V10 into a Crown Vic before. Ford Australia also built a prototype New Edge with it as well

@NewEdge2v

Жыл бұрын

Someone where I live put the 6.2 supercharged raptor engine In a crown vic and they twin turboed it, so compound boost. They go by "Boost and Bad Habits" on here.

ive always had a thing for the 4.6L aluminum blocks in the early aviators, thought that would be a perfect swap candidate.

@casualobserver1663

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Buddy of mine grabbed several of them from the junkyard, one is going in a Fairlane wagon

@dLikesDDs

Жыл бұрын

the teksid block is king. its been known to handle thousands of hp.

I’m stoked to see how it goes. I have been wanting to do something very similar. I have been wanting to do a 5.8 GT500 block and head swap into a new edge, keeping it naturally aspirated. The cost is prohibitive, but this could get close to same numbers.

A frend of mine had a Stock Boss 290 in his Ford Falcon BA GT. Leaves a turbo Barra in dust as long as it has only a boost increase. However he fitted cams to it and it really livened up. This time cams and boost for the full express package. it will leave the truck in the dust. 🔥🔥🔥 I would like to say a step for yours is take it out of student drivers spec and fit a manual box.

@LawrenceTolman

Жыл бұрын

thats cool to hear, I wish we got the Barra here to play with, but its also an engine on my bucket list.

Can’t wait to see the power numbers the 4 valve can make. Keep the content coming, one of my favorite channels.

I like that you're swapping Ford(ish) in to Ford. I also like that you doing some 4V 4 cam stuff. Pushrods are great but rare these days.

Hey LT, I admire you're not afraid to take a path less traveled......... Looks like a cool build. I hope to see the 5.4 in the stang as is and then pull it out and stuff it with the good parts and boost it when the budget allows.

This is going to be amazing. I honestly was not excited about the 8.1 in the mustang, but the 5.4 will be awesome. I always wondered why I haven’t seen that motor in more mustangs.

Please do a blue Cobra R clone with a 6 speed and turbocharged 5.4

@LawrenceTolman

Жыл бұрын

thats kinda how its gonna turn out I think

Awesome! I hear the cylinder heads flow very well. I bet it makes great power. MMR does wonders with mod motors.

@sidsideways2828

Жыл бұрын

MMR has a horrible commercial reputation in the modular mustang world

@Bacongrease00

Жыл бұрын

@@sidsideways2828 many many regrets

Def excited to see this swap! Glad you decided to go this route instead of the other options

Better for the long term to save the 8.1 for another truck (or SUV) build. However, you've got the potential of a nice "sleeper" Mustang that puts 900 hp to the pavement. The broke guy in me says go budget, but the motorhead in me says build it right. I've gotta say Option 2 is my vote, so I can live vicariously through your build. Keep up the great work!

I've said it before and I'll say it again. You're channel never fails to produce awesome content. I watch every video and it's always badass.

@LawrenceTolman

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Hey thanks a ton! I genuinely appreciate that

@loganboyer8816

Жыл бұрын

@@LawrenceTolman you're very welcome bud. Excited for what's to come with your new edge.

Damn I was waiting for a v10😂

I had no idea you had a KZread channel. I never missed any of your episodes when you were on Powernation and tonight one of your videos popped up in my feed and I said Holy smokes....that's LT!!!!! Loved this video and hope you choose option 2. Looking forward to seeing this build. New subscriber bud!

@LawrenceTolman

Жыл бұрын

thanks for stopping by! And thanks for watching both there and now here!

This looks awesome! I've watched some of your LS stuff, but I'm subbing because of this build! I would like to build another newedge Mustang (already have an 04 Cobra in the garage) but I've been going back and forth on if I should do a 5.4 4v with an Aussie intake or a Coyote. This will be cool to see.

@LawrenceTolman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub, and hope you enjoy the mustang content! I just got my Aussie intake today, and it looks pretty amazing!

Very disappointed on your engine pick. Especially after you had your viewers vote on it. I would love to see the 8.1 in a small car like that.

@jegr3398

Ай бұрын

Too bad. His car, his engines, he can do what he wants. Buy your own mustang and swap an 8.1 into it.

Opt 1 keep the wallet closed

Love this!!!! So glad to see people still out thier building mod motors especially someone with your following 🤙🏼 gonna be so dope and probably inspire some people to go “old school” on thier builds

Excited to see mod motor content! Found you channel recently and have enjoyed the LS content, but I can't wait to see everything you do with this New Edge!

Bro that’s trash

5.4’s are junk

@kylancook3477

Жыл бұрын

Lmao, only if not properly maintained like anything else

@ratchetstrapgarage3609

Жыл бұрын

Played with plenty of mod motors over the years and the reliability is just not there. Small oiling holes and poorly designed timing chain system.

@amateurtouring

Жыл бұрын

Nothing is “properly maintained”. Properly maintained is Fords scape goat 😂🤣🤣🤣

@donuthole7236

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@@ratchetstrapgarage3609 The timing chain is not the problem they rarely go. The powdered metal gears are. Best to replace with billet gears

The mod motor was also used in the Mercury Marauder too! An before you started on Trucks/Truck Tech they did a mod motor in a Mazda b series truck (rebadged Ford Ranger).

I am part of a mod motor group we have a guy that custom specs cams for around the same price as off the shelf cams. The cams are where a alot of power is to be had with the older 4v motors. I found a build once of a guy that big bore and added a little bit of stroke with 11.5 compression custom cams ported heads and a modified fr500c intake to fit the 5.4. I believe he was around 600rwhp

While I was in high school a teacher of mine had an Acid green Falcon Boss 290 with an aftermarket shaker hood. Was a dream of mine to build one just like it. Glad to see you pursuing your dreams !

Wow! Great idea for a swap. I'm totally with you for oddball engine swaps. I'm looking forward to seeing how this goes. BTW, I don't think you can do it. LOL Just kidding, I know you can. Gauntlet thrown. I dare you to pull this off! I have my own oddball swap project and my friends and neighbors think I am nuts. I'm doing a 1983 Nissan Patrol with a 1995 Gen II LT-1 from an Impala with a TH400/NP205 twin stick transfer case on 1-ton axles (D60 front and 14 bolt rear) with links and coil-overs. Possibly the only one like it in the world. Dare to be different!

Almost finished putting one of these in my 06. Your making life a hell of a lot easier skipping the headers... what a nightmare that was. Good luck

I like the mod motor. I installed a vortech supercharger on my 2012 5.4 3V expedition. Side note, a supercharged expedition turns heads at Pikes Peak when everyone hears that blow off valve spitting out boost when idling down the mountain.

Thank goodness you didn't put another bloody Chev in a sweet as FORD ! Good rods needed for boost and oil pump gears. You'll want new chains too. I live in NZ, and my next-door neighbor has a mint '07 Falcon XR8 with the Boss 260 (near 350hp). The Falcon GT had the Boss 290 (near 390hp). Later years had Boss 302 (405hp) and Boss 315 (422 hp) versions. I myself have a 2001 Falcon XR8 that has 220kw (295hp), from the engine the Boss series replaced in 2002....the old last of the pushrod 5 litre Windsors. These last all iron 302w's were all special hand-built engines, that kept up with the then-current Holden Commodore SS 5.6 litre all alloy LS 1 !!

@arkhsm

Жыл бұрын

P. S. you forgot the GT500s from '07 to 2012 !!

Great swap option! Should be an interesting build, would be cool to see you go through it and beef up the internals, but it's going to be a rabbit hole

Love this! These engine was such a cool and limited treasure from ford. Cool that they put them in Lincoln's, mach 1's, cobras, gt40's. It looks so good all cleaned up and under the hood of a Mustang. Will be cool and fun.

Golf Course Applause for not going with another me too LSx, Coyote, Hemi, etc . . . I wasn't expecting an exotic 4v variation but that's nice too. 🙂👍

Look into porting the exhaust side of the heads. If I remember correctly, on the navigator engine, the ports on the exhaust are a little on the small side and could benefit from porting. I could be wrong. It’s been years since I’ve looked into these engines. Also, The boss 290 manifold is awesome but if you ever wanted to experiment with coyote intake manifolds on that engine, I believe MMR makes adapters to put a coyote manifold on the 5.4.

@donuthole7236

Жыл бұрын

The Cobra R heads flow the best followed by the 03/04 Cobra heads. The Navigator heads "not so much" but under boost it won't matter as much.

finally some love for the 4v dohc! i would definitely at least try to rebuild the whole motor or at least refresh it up, boss 302 rods are great and don’t break the bank, definitely get the head cooling mod as well.

In an Aussie boss 260 with long tubes , herrod camshafts , boss 290 intake and full twin 2.5" exhaust with hi flow cats on a Falcon and went 350rwhp. Before the camshafts with all those mods it made 300 at the wheel. I know you guys somehow get more HP for same mods and mile an hour than we do. With stock r exhaust manifolds and the possibly smaller cams from the Lincoln you'd be hard pushed to make over 280 here. unless they're understated the Lincoln's have 300hp at 5000 rpm the 260 kw here is 350 HP at 5500 rpm. Unsure if it's the camshafts or the intake manifold but you may have smaller sticks again then we did. The 290's had larger camshafts than the 260's again. Interested to see how this goes with decent diff gears . We had the AOD box with 3.45's , car was more impressive 100 - 200 KMs than it was 0-100.

Very cool! Used to watch you on Powernation and your show was my favorite. So glad to have found your channel, LT! May I suggest you swap a Ford V10 into a Town Car or Crown Vic next?

When I had my 1st 1996 Mustang GT I wanted to swap a 4V 5.4L into it. At the time there wasn't any good intake manifolds and on the early SN95's there was clearance issues with the drivers side valve cover and the master cylinder. I look forward to seeing the progress of this build.

This great. Im Ford and general knowledge after and my buddy is a Chevy/ford combo guy. Ive tried to tell him for years how the mod motors are all interchangeable. How you can gwt any of them and they fit right in on any car that had one. Less the intake and maybe oil pan but the motor itself goes. He argues they are different motors all the time. They was youre using the Nav motor direct to cobra parts is just beautiful. Simple showing how I was right. Plus i have a Nav I want to gut and do something similar with the engine.

Awesome , I want to do this to my truck from a 4.6 2v single cab to 5.4 intech 32v It will be a less complicated vs a Coyote or LS swap. Some intake adapters from MMR with a coyote intake 🔥.

Nice, and Original swap ! I would just go with option 2, instead of yanking the engine back out again, and wasting more time. I assume you gonna use Holley EFI? It would be awesome if you were to go with an Auto on this one, would be so much better for 1/4 times, obviously if that fits the budget. Can't wait to see more 🤘

When I was building my 6.0 formy G8. My machine shop was telling me about the motor he does the heads for this other speed shop local. The speed shop had a 5.8 V8 from a F250 and sleeved it to get it down to 5.4 liters. It was running twins and made I think 1500 horsepower or more. This was roughly 5 years ago

@randomdude4669

Жыл бұрын

I'm amazed how much love the ve commodore/g8 gets still

I’m currently doing the same, TRYING to stick with the “budget”😅 I’m hoping to have it together n runnin by spring ‘23. Have 3 “ponies” to choose from to stuff it in, then the other 2 will get the other engines currently in their sleeping bags, 5.0 “GT40” n my baby 408W! Like you I’ve got too many things going in the garages (and yard) and fighting a rare liver “C” word 3yrs now. Makes everyday a gift and sometimes a challenge so I’d go crazy if I didn’t have these projects to keep me from giving up. How did you manage to get the intake? I have the mmr intake plates n Boss 302 intake , was trying to keep from cutting the hood if I go with the 01 GT, the ‘97 was going to be turbo 3.8 but I have a 4.6 I thought about putting in it, Jasper reman # 3! So far my to do list to the 5.4 is replace the oil pump, pan/pick up tube, put in a timing chain kit in, water pump, do the coolant tube mod on the back of the heads, port the intake adapters to match the heads, there’s a lot to take out! The intake has to be modified at the outside part of the intake at the injector bosses so it will fit between the heads ! Finding headers within the budget was a pain, was not using anything but long tubes, gain hp there! Using an auto so I’m sure a few light mods will be req 2 em. Pace setter 70-3229 for a 98 Cobra, got the cheapest ones, going to paint em after I get done w/mod em! Ceramic coat b nice but I may go twin turbo but right now I have a D2 n a P1 I’m thinking about…! This is as far as I’ve got , I was happy as hell to see someone else doing this too, n try to stay with the “budget” which goes gray after a few! Used parts are crazy, the intake cobra cams USED are impossible to find n the 03-04 5.4 dohc I have no idea if they would do anything but $1700 for only cams is a project killer for sure! Good luck n sorry , I can’t keep my msgs short, been tryin!

I have a 5.4L Triton from a F-150 in my Grand Marquis. All I did was freshen it up and added some cams. It makes 350 whp. I am very happy with it.

Very excited for this build! I have always wanted to do a 5.4 dohc swap in a mustang as well!! I have now subscribed for this one!

I was thinking more of a parts bin special 5.4L 4v but the navigator engine is easier being complete, when you can find them. gonna be a cool project, I like it.

Great direction to go. Can’t wait to see how much power you go for in this build.

I always wanted to do this swap. It’s more bolt in than any other out there using factory parts . Boosted 5.4 make incredible power using stock parts. Stock crank easily handles over 1000hp. The heads flow good and have so much potential.

Those 4v 4.6/5.4 Motors Sound Amazing! Ide put some Bad Axx Headers Exhaust, Cam & Supercharge it.Terminator 5.4 But thats my opinion & an idea ive had For a while now. Nice project you Have!

Excited to see the 5.4 swap, but would like to see a 7.3 Godzilla swap on the channel at some point too. Oh yeah, I vote build it now, option 2.

Back in the 90s John Coletti stuffed a 10.0L big block in the SVT Boss Mustang and went up against Jon Moss with a 572ci Camaro. What a match up.

Love this build!!! Very excited to see that intake under the hood.

dude i love the ford mod motors, i really appreciate you building one.

Love it! I plan to Navi swap my 2000 Mustang. It will be good to see it done so I know what issues I am going to run into when I do it.

Excited for this build LT, thanks for taking us along!

@LawrenceTolman

Жыл бұрын

thanks for watching it!

It’d be a really cool build to see it done NA. A little porting on those heads, a bump up in compression, a set of big 4V camshafts, your planned intake would be perfect, and a good exhaust. It’s a build for a Foxbody I’d have liked to play with if I had the space to expand my fleet, time to keep building around my family and work, and money to do these sort of builds. As it is, 2 hotrods, 1 mild 1 wild, is all I can manage. Build it because everything else you mentioned has been done over and over again and there’s not a lot of variance in those mostly junkyard engine builds. I’ll also make my opinion known that doing just another turbo junkyard motor build will be less-than exciting. Make it tough. BTW the Coyote motors are 12:1(!!!) thanks to the DI fuel injection. The older gen I/II port injection engines were 11:1 though and trucks still got 10.5:1.

800 to 900 hp is fairly simple on a turbo 5.4 4v. The connecting rods and pistons would prove to be the weak point. Also I believe the intake you want was designed to go on a 5.4 with c heads, like an aviator or cobra. The navigator ports are a bit too big, but it can mostly be done.

Yasssss!!!! I am definitely following this build very closely. I want to do a 32v swap on my 2002 F150 off road truck!

You forgot the 07-14 GT500 engines, but those are still pretty expensive anyways. I had one of these motors and was going to swap it into my King Cobra, but the 4.6 4v was the tallest that would fit in that configuration. But I had swapped on the navigator heads to that 4.6, but the navigator heads are the most commonly sought after 4v heads (aside from the obvious supercar and cobra R heads). You could also do a GT500 intake/supercharger set up! Those are relatively cheap and make good power. Nice thing about the 5.4 is that you can respond the coils and use the factory harness and computer!

@midnight347

Ай бұрын

There are tons of good blower options for the 5.4 gt500s. I have a vmp gen3r on my 07 gt500 it's a torque monster and so is the 5.4 so they're a good pairing together. My gt500 did 740/733 to the wheels on 19 psi with a stock long block, long tubes, full exhaust and twin 69 tbody/jlt 123 intake. Tuned on 93/boostane (100 octane) it's a monster. It was over 700 tq at the tires from like 3000-5500 rpm which is crazy and it was still pulling over 600 tq at 6500 rpm. Saying it's an annual is an understatement lol. I also have 410 gears and 200 lbs weight reduction (it weighs about 3700 without me in it). 5.4 is badass i always loved em. Thinking about doing a high compression na 5.4 in my 97 cobra I'm fixing up.

Option 2 sounds like a BLAST. I'm finally coming into my own as an adult, making friends, making ways to work on projects. These videos inspire me to do my own projects.

Option 2 sounds awesome, but it's definitely NOT a budget build option; for a budget build you'd have to go with option one. With that said, I would think you'd want to open up that engine and see how everything looks in there... and while it's opened up you'll start looking at things and changing things here and there and it'll turn into "Option 1.5" Can't wait to see you do your magic on the Stang and that Ford engine.

I was comparing measurements with other smallblocks and the 4.6 is bigger in dimensions than most small blocks out there, so you should have a good amount of room to work with... it is very long and very wide. That being said, I am swapping a Mustang 2 K member and independent front suspension into an 87 Chevy Sprint (1500lb Geo Metro daddy,) The car will only be around 2000lbs with a small block in it and I think the suspension will be way too stiff, so maybe a heavier big block is what's needed to make it ride right! You sir get a subscribe. I like the way you think and the way you got me thinking.

Good thing you went 5.4!! I've been trying to imagine what kind of hood was going on the stang to fit the 8.1?!? It's big!!

I shoved one of these in an 02 f150 I had. Was a fun swap! The intake manifold is something crazy to behold in a truck.

On the first shot of the engine, I thought it was a Lincoln Mark VIII engine because of the valve covers, then you panned out and I saw the mech fan. Brought memories of my 98 Mark VIII anyway. The DOHC in it was damn reliable and sounded great (I have an exhaust vid in my channel if interested)

@LawrenceTolman

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had a Mark VIII engine in my last mustang! lovet id

My favorite modern mustang too! And my favorite GM engine is also the 8.1 496 ci vortec w the Allison trans i had in my 2001 crew cab 4x4 short bed GMC SLE, but mine had a vinyl floorboard and cloth seats someone ordered it that way from the factory down to the color which was the silverish grey color whatever color it was it was my fav truck so far that I’ve owned and I sunk it once drained the motor over night ran thicker oil through the engine to flush it and filled it back up w 10w-30 and it crunk right up didn’t take plugs or anything out just held it and played with the throttle till it cleared out drove it for almost 2 more years and no other changes except having to put a different throttle body on it cuz it siezed shut from being sunk 3 months prior so it’d just go in & out of reduced engine power and finally I took it in had it looked at and that’s literally all that was wrong! Toughest motor that I’ve owned and it would run like a mf I out ran newer body style half ton chevys fords etc. only thing that got me was a newer 5.0! And all I had was a CAI and true duals cats back necked down to 2.5 at the back bed all the way out the back tucked and almost turned to the side almost 90d them but it was the best sounding truck ever lol

Excited to see where you go with this! I swapped the same 5.4 from an 04 navi into my 72 f100.

I vote option 2. The 5.4 4v navi engine has always been a dream build of mine also since the cobra R caught my attention. I still want to swap one into my 2000 lightning but the S/C wouldn't fit without adapters or something.

Definitely build it now. Rods pistons cams springs. Don't forget to upgrade the secondary timing chains.

Awesome 👌 5.4 Have all of your internals WPC treated. You are the MAN

@LawrenceTolman

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Thanks 👍

Option 2 with standard compression pistons.. Nice cam and springs and bottom end refresh and painter up!!

couldnt agree more! best body style of mustang ever created IMO...i dont like how the 95+ front end looks with the headlights and this 02+ body one headlights make ALL the differance

Cool video. That engine in whole job. You should do some small job on the the channel. I bet you have viewers nearby with everything already purchased sitting in their garage. Example tune ups, aftermarket ground effects, lips, spoilers, paint, chairs, super chargers, lowering kits, body kits, hoods & hood scoops, functional scoops, muffler kits, etc. This way you quick videos & a lot of content

@slickinsider101

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I myself always some aftermarket stuff, badges, grills, accessories, wheels, tires, seats, etc.. & take 6 months to a year to get around to it.. & so do a lot of people. It’s easy free content if you get your community to bring in cars locally.

Ford GT cams, get your heads ported by foxlake or kaase. Hogan no longer sells the sheetmetal intakes I used but the boss 260 is great. 78/76 should make 800hp @ 15-18lbs.

This is why I love your channel, you make things your own way! This is going to be a fun one to follow!

I used AJE Racing's K member to get a 1 inch drop to clear the brake booster. By changing just the plates it can adapt to almost any engine. Also the 5.4 piston sits .120 in the hole. I'd get a zero deck piston to keep the wristpin out of the oil control ring while giving you alot of crown thickness for boost. Diamond makes a self stock zero deck 5.4 piston that gives about a 9.3:1 compression ratio. If you want to use any of the 03-04 Cobra stuff in between the heads like crossover pipe, the 5.4 is an 1.625 wider. Also if you ever need to change the crank, use a super cobra jet crank. Tested to 1500rwhp.

@donuthole7236

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CP's are the ultimate pistons for a mod motor. Avoid coating of any kind just run the bare aluminum

Hell yeah Brother!!! As a Ford guy, it was always my dream to stuff a Navigator engine in a Crown Vic. Great engine!!! And they sound AMAZING!!! Nice choice.👌🏻

@LawrenceTolman

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Thanks! And I agree, the Ford 4v stuff always sounds amazing to me

5:30 is when he finally stops talking and works on it 😂 Love it though!

I've always wanted to build one of these engines as well. Parts should be plentiful. Aren't they the same heads as the 4v 4.6? Plus pistons are the same 2v 3v and 4v engines aren't they? I say bump compression, good cams, that ausie intake and let it eat.

My cousin put one of these in a 1972 F100 with the 4r75w trans and it runs good, it does have a carb manifold and full Msd control set up but still stock long block

make sure u replace the Tentioners with cast metal tentioners for your cam chains and guides and upgrade the oil pump to a higher volume oil pump