Thanks for watching! If you want to grab some of the cool Ravaged Star models like the one I painted, here's the link to the preorders: gamefound.com/projects/miniwargaming/ravaged-star-tabletop-miniature-wargame?refcode=QGKNFrs0PkOclgG6q7G0SA Also, here's the link to the exact paint set I used in this video: geni.us/cheappaints

You casually dropped the best two minute NMM tutorial ever by the way.

@76trizzy

2 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing.

@MidwinterMinis

2 ай бұрын

Haha, thanks matey. It's not awful, but it's nowhere near the masters!

@albertgarcia3048

2 ай бұрын

And yet this NMM looks better than my TMM :D

@b-beale1931

2 ай бұрын

​@@MidwinterMinis We have to start somewhere, a lot of the in depth tutorials are too in depth for someone just starting out

@wikyWargaming

2 ай бұрын

Can hear Guy's brass balls clanking over here in the US 😂 NMM with crap paints, and it looks quite nice!

Fun fact: one of the best miniature painters in my local area had all his citadel paints go bad a couple years ago, and he decided to no longer buy citadel paint. He EXCLUSIVELY used Walmart craft paint on all his miniatures and they do in fact look amazing. He taught me how to get better blends and brush control and NMM and he does it all with apple barrel. Mad lad

@Junbav

2 ай бұрын

I've heard that apple barrel black is really good, some youtuber says it's the best black acrylic paint they've tried

@frankyboi1819

2 ай бұрын

@@Junbav I’ve heard similar, I only use it for terrain especially hand made terrain because it’s cheaper and is great for base coats

@oscaraguirre4152

2 ай бұрын

I do use apple barrel for some colors that I use in big quantities, like black or brown and haven't let me down yet

@pshalleck

2 ай бұрын

@@Junbav The color for my Apple Barrel black is good, probably my favorite that isn't specifically primer, but it has the same issue rubbing off as Guy experienced with the Fantastory. I use my Apple Barrel set just to avoid having a gray army, and later I'll use Army Painter or Vallejo. Amusingly, there's a blue I used on some space marines without any primer, and it sticks about as well to bare plastic as the black does to a primed model.

@Therealblacktux

2 ай бұрын

mad lad? or masochist? you decide!

Dave here. GUY!!! The mini turned out much better than I thought. The acrylic paint set is a great find 🙏 Thank you for your fantastic video. Not only did you paint a badass Immari Dwarf mini in a super nostalgic Thor colour scheme, but also perform an experiment to see how this cheap acrylic paint set could perform. Serious props to crafting both an engaging and visual journey. I’m biased but I love your videos haha. Your music WHICH YOU COMPOSE YOURSELF!!!! (mind blown!) is my favourite part of your videos. The music at the end of this video was spot-on as usual and your kiddos are adorable. “Titans” “Gorkanaut” YES start them young haha. To you, the person reading this comment and watching Midwinter minis; thank you for watching this video. To our surprise and honour Guy mentions that we got him back into the hobby. The fun bit is, he’s done the same for us. So now a very important question: … Which Ravaged Star miniature should Guy paint next? He’s now painted models from all 3 factions. Should we give him a larger model to paint? I want to know what you all think. P.S. who thinks Guy and Hatty should come visit us at the MWG Bunker and do some fun colabs? Hehe 🤺🎲🖌️

@Lordmuhkuh23

2 ай бұрын

That collab would be the dopest cross over.

I usually ift this as a counterpoint when people say "don´t buy expensive art material when startting out" that it is correect as in so far that there is no point in going to the top tier stuff. But one should not scrape the bottom either because it might make the journey needlessly hard.

@MidwinterMinis

2 ай бұрын

Very true!

@Kehy_ThisNameWasAlreadyTaken

2 ай бұрын

I started off using basically these fairly generic craft-quality paints. You CAN learn with them, but they can also lead to bad habits like not thinning paints. After all, if these are so sheer as it is, thinning them down doesn't make quite as much sense. If someone did want to start with them, painting larger, somewhat less structurally detailed models like dinosaurs and animals would be a better start than jumping straight into high-detail super tiny figures

@darthkek1953

2 ай бұрын

Buy once cry once.

@calebharris292

2 ай бұрын

​@@darthkek1953 paint is a consumable

@tiny_gyarados8848

2 ай бұрын

You don't NEED the highest end stuff as an artist. Dudes make amazing works of art with charcoal, chalk, and other cheap stuff. Imagine being a master with "crappy" and "cheap" art supplies. I think that's more impressive than using expensive supplies.

That bit at the end with the titan and gorkanaut melted my whole dang heart... Well worth the price of the paint I reckon 😂

@jasonmullin3522

2 ай бұрын

Id's yelow. Young kids love what dad loves. There cute at that age. Then they grow up.

@miniwargaming

2 ай бұрын

Yup. Easy checkmate. Guy got us! He knew those warm wholesome fuzzies would absolutely steal our hearts ❤

@samnelson9038

2 ай бұрын

Indeed

I think these paints would be good to have for terrain and large pieces you dont want to blow entire pots of expensive mini paints on

@darthkek1953

2 ай бұрын

Get artist grade ink, thin it down massively with water (will still have great pigmentation) and airbrush.

@miniwargaming

2 ай бұрын

I agree. These plants would be good for this.

@rebeccafishlock226

2 ай бұрын

I mostly use artist paints for my scenery and terrain, Josonja is my go-to.

I use cheap artist acrylic paints for 80% of my base coats and then my nicer paints for highlights, washes, and details. Best way to make the expensive ones last way longer. Awesome video as always

Kiddo was stippling like a pro at the end there!

@MidwinterMinis

2 ай бұрын

I need to learn to start going "doot doot doot" when stippling too

@bigmclargehuge8219

2 ай бұрын

@@MidwinterMinis 100%, it really is the best technique around.

@miniwargaming

2 ай бұрын

Painting whilst making sweet sound effects is the best way to paint. I was had at the first doot haha

About the opacity: It's worth noting that as they're aiming to be 'artists' paint it's perfectly normal for the opacity to vary, and it's something that's very normal for us on the more traditional art side of things because we tend to lean towards starting with single pigments then make our own mixes from there. If you go on to a major art store like Jacksons you'll notice that their UI is even designed to make the pigment information super accessible Some pigments are just more transparent than others, hence the pthalo blue being very transparent while the yellow ochre/raw sienna being much more opaque. They seem to have pigment information on the labels (it's the P[another letter][number] bit) so you can use that to look it up and get a feel for the paint will likely behave before it's even out of the bottle, personally I'm a fan of artiscreation's database. Some of your other paints probably have that information available too (though it might be online) so you can even compare them - it's pretty handy information to know when you're picking out paints

An under-appreciated aspect of these cheap craft paints are the bottles! Flip the cap to get a precise dropper like Vallejo paints, or unscrew the whole cap to dip your brush like GW paint pots.

@Primal2229

2 ай бұрын

Its a standard cap for 60ml and higher, its also not as precise as a dropper. Funny enough its the norm in craft/budget paints where Vallejo and Citidel are the freaks.

These types of cheap paints can be very good depending on what you use them for. I like to use them to paint bases as I can use poor covage as different ground texture and they last a lot longer than normal mini paints. My dad who makes vintage style toy soldiers (very simple bright paint schemes with high gloss finishes) uses these types of paints straight out of the tube with no thining and has gotten really nice results. Watching this I am tempted to get a set to see how well they act as glazes.

@MidwinterMinis

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, some of them definitely have "alternative uses", that Orange Yellow is a really great glaze.

Love the long winded disclaimer at the end because I agree with everything you said, it’s like you stole the thoughts out of my head while watching the video, but I think that everyone should start with paints like this. It makes you struggle and learn and then, you buy some proper mini paints and are already familiar with junk paints. So I think these would be great for terrain, and not a bad place to start when entering the hobby.

Man I've got twins as well (and an older one) and seeing your lil 'unz join you in the hobby just makes all the happy things go "brrr" in my brain. My son just recently started reading his first Warhammer Adventure novel, and my twin girls always snatch the GW shop's free mini right out of my hands. I might actually purchase this kit of paint for them to use on their own leisure. Regards from Germany!

@MidwinterMinis

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like the dream!

@zieg0r

2 ай бұрын

@@MidwinterMinis Except for the fact that bringing your three kids into one of the hobbies that isn't exactly what I'd call "on the cheaper side of things" may not be my smartest move. Luckily, your DIY videos are there to save the day. And the bank account. ^^

@MidwinterMinis

2 ай бұрын

Don't worry, I've got plenty of unpainted stuff they can make a start on, haha ​@@zieg0r

I did a lot of mini painting when the UK went into Covid lockdown in early 2020 and one issue I found was that I was quickly running out of certain paints particularly black as I tend to use it to paint all my base rims. As I was unable to get more at the time I resorted to trying cheaper acrylic paints I could get from the stores that were allowed to be open. Like you I found them best for larger terrain pieces and they are ideal for things like base rims as it saves using much more expensive paints for something so simple.

I like how you identified weaknesses in some of their paints, like the ones with poor opacity, then used those as strengths, like using them as glazes. The other related thing I want to mention is you comment on how beginners will need to learn techniques to get the same results - even more than that they need to develop understanding of how light and shadows fall, how the eye perceives edges, motion, etc and use that knowledge to guide where to apply techniques. A painter with a good eye for these things will get better results with just a drybrush than a painter that knows all the techniques but not where and when to use them.

Most people don't paint minis to Golden Demon standard but to tabletop standards. The paints are just fine for that.

@themainman2827

2 ай бұрын

True. Many awesome looking miniatures taht people see in tutorials are meant to be in a shelf, not in a gameboard.

Glad to see Gork n Mork showing us their painting skills

I JUST gave my niece this exact set to start painting toys/whatever for her birthday this week . . . . ;.;

@MidwinterMinis

2 ай бұрын

I'm sure she'll love them!

@minihali

2 ай бұрын

I wouldn't worry too much about it, it is an incredibly cheap way to find out if you, or your niece, in this case even enjoy miniature painting. Also, keep in mind, Guy is a professional painter, so I bet he is awy more critical of the products he use than your niece might be.

Man, I love those dwarf minis. I wish GW would lean more into the fantasy aspect of science-fantasy the way that dwarf does. Great vid, Guy! I definitely agree that a new painter wouldn't be able to replicate that paint job. I always suggest waiting for a starter set from Citadel/Army Painter/etc goes on sale. There's a lot you can do with half a dozen good quality paints.

Honestly, this is a wonderful video that had a bit of a smirk on my face the whole time. When I first started Mini painting, I didn't have the money for proper paints, so I used a similar style of paints that my mom owned for all of her ceramic and craft painting. They were.... Okay, but they did the job. ;) Y'all, if you need a starting point for the painting side of the hobby, these are a wonderful place to start and just upgrade singles as you go along. If you take your time, "okay" paints can take you a long way. Thanks for this video!

Don't use cheap paint for expensive miniatures unless you really know what you are doing. DO buy cheap paints for kids (and clients/patients who have the mental state of kids). Painting is an absolutely amazing hobby that makes people happy on a lot of levels. I love to paint with my clients. They like the bright colors, the creativity and the fact the table gets all messy and at the end they have something they are proud of and want to hang on the wall. This set seems like a great deal, 1 purchase you get all the colors and they'll last months.

I like the effort, on trying the best out of this paint set, but I loooove the ending. Me too, I tend to use the less usable material as a reason to do handcraft with my kids. Huge priceless quality time!

New subscriber as of this video which popped up in my feed and I am getting ready to embark on painting for the first time. More for pleasure than gaming. My 3d printer will be going burrrr soon. I really enjoyed your commentary on the cheaper paints and under stand your skill level is way above average. If you do another video like this. I would like to see a comparision between cheap paint versus your favorite paint. To see the difference in the model. Even if you dont show painting the 2nd one. I just think it would be cool to see. Thanks for your time and sharing your skills.

I have definitely watched the whole video before commenting, yes! Great work! Edit: Got to the end, you should definitely paint a gorkanaut in the colors your kid used.

@MidwinterMinis

2 ай бұрын

Good, goooood

I find that craft paint is actually really great for dry brushing because they are often a drier paint than miniature paints

Some were better than others I think but I am glad you did mention your proficiency with painting minis as you definitely have a lot of skill others so can work with lesser products and make it still work.

A very "painterly" look, which I'm a fan of. Once you've got past the base coating, the poor coverage didn't seem to hamper that at all.

More signs of the value of time and technique shining through

Nursery School Teacher: "a space marine chainsawing tyranids? - lovely Florence" (whispers) - "quick, get me social services!"

Great acoustic version of the MWM music theme in the end!

Started using just citadel stuff(wanted to support my local gw store as the owner is super open to me bringing my son by once a week. He's autistic and getting him to socialize is darn near impossible. But if you get him talking about his ultramarines he'll never stop. I take him once a week for him to socialize with people.) Expanded into a ton of different brands since but yeah, Their naming conventions for these paints is effing annoying.

This is genius. I've wanted someone to do a video like this. I've watched you for a while now. Keep up the good work!

Painted my first ever army this year with amazon paints. I think I paid a little more than this. Most of them coated really well. There were a couple that I needed to put a base coat down of a close color before coating with that color, but it wasn't terrible. I can imagine the experience would have been better with more expensive paint, but my models turned out great. Might have just saved time with high end paint

@dustinroberson1865

2 ай бұрын

The set I used was HissiCo...64 paints for $38. It included iridescents and metallics along with the normal colors. I originally bought Abeier iridescent paint which worked great in my airbrush, and the iridescent black worked great as a darker gunmetal look. I don't know how the iridescents in the hissico set look.

I would have liked to have seen that colour card chart with other brands like Citadel to see how the more expensive brands compare in terms of opacity/coverage etc!

I got these paints for terrain painting and can confirm they're more than up to that job (and are good 'decoy' paints to give to the kids when they want to paint along but are of an age where they're capable of emptying a pot of citadel in a single sitting!) 😀

Love the cute bit at the end with your child. I think you nailed that for scenery paints 👌

I have a bunch of similar sets from Arteza (I think they were a bit less for 20 paints, but there are 3 basic sets of 20, which do include a few metals). And I've used craft paints from places like the Range and Hobbycraft for _years._ I think the key thing you've established here is that each individual paint isn't a magic bullet; the properties that might initially annoy you about a paint (like seemingly poor coverage) can actually be a blessing when you want to use it as a glaze or tint later. The trick is to learn the qualities of each tool in your arsenal, and figure out when those qualities are useful to you. One example is when I've had metallics that didn't cover well, I'd always establish a base coat close to the colour I want it to seem, that way most of the actual _colouring_ work of the metallic has been done, and now you just need to add the actual shine. I use dedicated miniature paints as well, I just don't use them for _everything._ If you're interested in looking at Arteza, by the way, they also have a set of 60 pearlescent/metallic acrylics in tubes, and one of 10 iridescent colours, all pretty decent prices, and fun to experiment with...

As I've noticed with some similar videos from other creators, the effects you get using the non mini hobby paints can be quite interesting. In this case I would say that the final result has a very comic book look, far more than some comic book style paint jobs I have seen done with proper hobby paints.

Absolutely loving the new take on the theme music at the end there! Another stellar vid, MWM!

Their miniatures look amazing. Mad amount of it. Thank you for making this video, I’m new to my painting journey and resources limited. I have been using craft paint and have a few Citadel, which I love, but so much is wasted at this point for their prices until I get better.

I use these for base coats before speed paints. They will help hide lines on prints. You can also use them as contrast paints if use mix them with flow medium. I use them quite a bit on huge minis and terrain.

Better than I expected. Doing the swatch first definitely helped! Leaning into the good paints is something I had to learn starting with the old Army Painter acrylic formula, though those weren't craft paint level bad for sure.

Results speak to the fact that mastery of tools is way more important than quality of the tool itself. Beginners will get way more out of spending time to master technique rather than fretting over if they've purchased the best of the best product.

That might have been your best model to date. That was a really interesting video. You guys are awesome

As a former pro painter, I got gifted a set that looks like this lol. I haven't used it on any minis, but for a few xmas gifts it worked out pretty ok. When I was a kid I DID use Americana craft paints for my first couple armies!

IIRC most of the student offerings from traditional acrylic paint manufacturers are competitive with this - the system 3 introductory set was working out at around 7p/ml once you hunt down deals, at about 15 quid-ish for the starter box, while galleria offered more paint in a similar kit to around 4-5p/ml. I know that some of the own brand paint sets can get even cheaper if you pair them with discounts, just google a coverage test before buying. You get less variety in the kits than this but judging by those tests you are probably getting more pigment. For someone starting, that lower initial price point of 15 quid is probably matters more than paint variety. You could grab a medium (washes and adjusting paint consistency, letting you paint a cadmium yellow wash over silver for golds) and an aluminium based metallic from one of the dedicated mini manufacturers and still have a couple quid left over to stock up on brushes.

Great value for terrain if nothing else.

That's a solid paint job. The Midwinter Twinnies wearing waterproofs for craft sessions made me giggle.

I talked with them at Adepticon this weekend and really like the detail of the designs. And they did really just freaking hide those mold lines on one piece models! The Dominiran are like Chaos Sisters of Battle, Gorkog are another Tyranid hive fleet, and the Immari are a better version of Votann.

Hey Guy, straight up. Craft paints and mixing mediums is my secret weapon. Especially my metallics. Mixing colour mediums like that sometimes you can get some cool effects.

I started off in the hobby back in september last year using these paints. I got some liquitex matte medium to thin them out some and it fixes the brush marks completely. You have to remember you need to thin your paints. These paints are thick, very thick in fact. Also kind of low on pigment load too lol so really its just a lot of medium. But for someone starting out, learning to mix their paints and all that. I'd say its a good place to start before going to the better stuff like Liquitex Acrylic Gauche, Scale 75, Kimera, GW paints etc.

Folkart Satin black is a fantastic primer through the airbrush if you thin 1 - 1 - 1 Paint to thinner to retarder, especially if you are doing slapchop/contrast paints. The satin finish is just smooth enough to prevent massive chaulking from the whites and greys of your zenithal/drybrush step without looking glossy. It is a medium black that is very easily shifted warm or cold with just a bit of brown or purple, and it has amazing coverage for a black that versatile.

I love the addition of your kids painting with you! Makes my think of the times I let my kids come paint with me. I got more than one terrain piece painted hot pink thanks to my baby girl.

The kids painting titans and gorkanauts was wholesome af

I was quite surprised by the end result.. I think your skill set really helped you get it too.. Your NMM was quite nice. Good review.

I bought these paints when I returned recently...yeah. I struggled and have had far better results with citadel which were just easier for me to use. You did such a great job though, it's awesome to see what an experienced and talented painter can do with them!

For opaque acrylics I use almost exclusively craft paints. I use Army Painter Speed paints, Green Stuff World Dipping inks, acrylic artists inks, and artists oils, I have a 20 year old set of Vallejo Game Color paints that I almost never touch and they're probably bad/going bad, and with the exceptions of skin tones which I struggle to blend from craft paints I don't plan to replace them.

Your NMM actually turned out really well :D Despite it being horrendous paint.

@MidwinterMinis

2 ай бұрын

Thanks matey!

"oh look at me, golden demon finalist" look at the ego on this guy. Joking aside, you are a great painter and the main reason I'm back into the hobby again. Thanks for doing videos like this I think it's a great experiment to show people what you can do with even the lowest budget. Keep up the great work and also you and hattie should start a podcast.

@MidwinterMinis

2 ай бұрын

Haha, I know right? Interesting idea on the podcast! Are you sure anyone would even listen?

@probeulater

2 ай бұрын

@@MidwinterMinis I would listen and I really enjoyed your video you did with maverickspaint last year after adepticon and your guest appearance on trapped underplastic. Might be worth thinking about.

i bought this exact paint set months ago and i actually like it... didn't think anyone else would have even tried it.

Nice video. These paint looks like they are for paining art and such. Definitely nice to have for scenery, please if possible video of them for that. Looking forward to the next video. Keep up the good work.

Fantastic paintjob with these cheap paints and brushes, bravo mate!

Seems like a good set for teaching children techniques and colour mixing without wasting money or materials and building confidence in their abilities

That is the exact set my daughter uses, I bought her a bunch of speedpaints and valejo pigments and she sticks with the cheap acrylics, she also has the equivalent metallic set, and she has a couple of slightly better big tubs of black and white for mixing, but this is what she feels comfortable with. Considering state side Citadel is $5 a pot and she is painting a lot of Lord of the Print big models like Tiamat and other dragons, I am glad to save the money. It requires more skill, which she has more of than me, but totally usable. My skill / patience level is basically advanced toned slapchop with some washes and glazes and highlights for finishing, but while I am happy with my work she is the better painter.

I think the most important take away from this is when you say '...I don't want to sound up myself, but I am a VERY experienced miniature painter...', as there is the key. Even so, I - as a intermediate painter - have started to introduce 'cheap' craft acrylics into my tool kit as I don't always need top quality modelling paints, I mix both, often finishing with the better quality ones. Excellent video, thank you.

Okay the paint wearing off like that is kind of a win, if you tint over it then you can just have a colored battle scar weapon, if you leave it like that its just a black and silver battle scar weapon it actually is pretty cool how it looked honestly

Excellent idea to paint a board with all the colors in two layers! That is a nice and useful way to make a look-up or reference palette for any paint set. Next, when I see that kind of curve on the tip of my brush I just use my hobby knife to cut it pointy. It works usually. If not, I cut it flat and I use it as drybrush, or paint mixing brush. Or throw it out, nylon brushes are extremely cheap.

I use some 'The Works' (uk chesp art shop) acrylics for terrain. Also used tester pots the interrior wall paints for houses.for DIY as light cremes/ greys for terrain drybrushing or painting stone walls ect. Very cheap.

That yellow Gorkanaut is surprisingly lore-accurate

Thanks, interesting stuff!

I like how you posted this literally 2 hours after I decided to toss all my citadels in the bin cause even factory sealed paints that sat on the shelf for a year dried out...

@MidwinterMinis

2 ай бұрын

Argh, I hate when that happens!

Jay from EOB put me onto using black craft paint exclusively and ive never looked back, ive got plenty of almost black to dark greys from miniature lines but my pure matte black always comes from the cheap big bottle now

I've collected a few very cheap local brand paints to try for some purposes. My findings so far: Cheap metallics are worthless for anything besides minor highlights. A cheap gold I got is entirely unable to cover anything worth covering, but can make an aquilla nice and sparkly without wasting any of my good golds from GW that actually cost money. Same goes for a cheap silver, which can potentially find use in getting added to paint mixes to give it a metallic glint, but not much else. Cheap base colors can actually work. A cheap green I bought for certain highlights on my Lamenters (some knee pads, some elbows) is actually a good enough base color that if I wanted to, I could couple it with some better layer paints and/or highlight paints to create, say, pretty good Salamanders. However, the blacks I've got are pretty awful at coverage... Which would be bad if that was what I wanted them for, but they're actually really good for darkening color mixes. And a single thin coat over any other color creates a dirtied/darkened vibe that can actually work pretty well for pipes or certain gun parts on larger models. Cheap brushes... Are usually gonna suck. But I've got a single set of 3 very cheap synthetic brushes that are actually incredible - the thinnest of the bunch is amazing for very small detail work, be it purity seals, writing on swords, applying washes or painting eye-lenses, and the brush has so far held out masterfully too. In fact, its been more robust and reliable than any GW brush I own...

Looks good. Very vibrant. They would work good on terrain.

I think that you definitely managed to elevate these paints in a way that I, a less experienced painter, probably wouldn't be able to. Also, as someone who has both invested in the Veil-Touched and Immari, You're getting me stoked for my short boys to come in and give me some ideas about how to best paint my chaos soldiers.

ya! cheap hobby alternatives. I like using cheaper paints for terrain for sure and of course painting with my niece and nephews :) Technique is always the most important thing, fancy paints just enhance that process and make it somewhat easier.

Just goes to show, a master mini painter can make even the crappiest pant perform.😉

@MidwinterMinis

2 ай бұрын

You want to give them a try then, Steve? Haha

@LPP_YT

2 ай бұрын

Paint a GD with craft paint?@@MidwinterMinis

Excellent use of those paints! Love the look of the mini too :D

I used the Fantastory set to see if I like Miniature painting without paying an enourmous amount of money, just for paints. Imo they are a great value for their cost and the black is used exclusivley for my base rims. I painted a couple large monsters and hunters from the monster hunter world board game with them and then switched to vallejo paints. Now I like painting with vallejo more, but for larger areas or large basecoats, I still consider using them over my expensive paints.

I’ve been using craft paints for a lot of my bases recently. Especially if I do a magma style with a lot of it hidden under crackles

Water works for diluting acrylic. However, flow enhancer does too, but doesn’t reduce saturation.

Nice job. I think for me it would be a cheap way to practice advanced techniques. Your little one looks to have inherited your gifts for painting.

amazing what you can do with skill and talent

When we're a little too early to the video

@MidwinterMinis

2 ай бұрын

You're a sneaky one!

They did better than I expected. If I really needed some paints and was super tight on cash, I would pic these up.

Hi midwinter minis. I just wanted too say thanks too you and your painting tutorials. Even though i dont even own any models yet. I hope too get some. Someday

@MidwinterMinis

2 ай бұрын

Great to hear!

Really great job on the NMM, especially under those circumstances!

I've been experimenting on getting cheap craft paint to cooperate more like the expensive hobby paint. I've come VERY close with adding a couple drops of Liquitex flow additive acrylic medium to the paint on the palette. This definitely makes it flow better, but I've noticed it thins it enough where I can get a decent finish on my terrain without gross brush strokes. I've had good results. but the chalky texture can still be there along with the paint rubbing off easily. It looks normal when I shade and highlight though. Very interesting results.

@MidwinterMinis

2 ай бұрын

That's a great idea!

Struggle is good content and helpful to people in the struggle. Model choice is good.

Surprised they worked out so well. Cool :)

I know it was a rough in ready NMM< but do you have any guides for it? I like the more 'stylized' nmm more (and think it is actually achievable by me) than more traditional NMM

Id be interested in a sequel where you paint with this set again, but try to make as good of miniatures as possible by substituting only a couple paints. I imagine that's how many beginners' paint selections will start out (like me, currently)

I use alot of craft paints due to cost constraints... As long as I prime 1st, never had bad experience, including with oil washes... Spray OK (filter cloth must)...

I've been painting larger models with slightly more expensive (But still pretty dang cheap) DecoArt crafters acrylic for a while now. I usually cheat a little and use a decent Gesso as my white. Works pretty okay. You're usually paying more for convenience, and my limiting factor at the moment is money, not time.

Metallic craft paints are great and at least equal. The downside of craft paints is theyre usually less pigmented and you cant water them down, but for metallics pigment doesnt matter because they dont water down anyway

Glad you mentioned experience in your summary. By the time you’re good enough to have these paints give a decent result, you’d have already invested time and money into better alternatives designed for the task. Fun challenge but not a realistic alternative, especially for a beginner who would be very easily discouraged by both the outcome and having to fight with the paint.

@ocalicreek

2 ай бұрын

"better alternatives" need not be more expensive either.

Delta Ceramcoat is a top quality paint I use. It's cheap 59ml bottle. Some I've been open for more than 10 years and no problem. They are thicker than GW and mini paint but strong and very opaque (made to paint ceramics). And a plus you can paint on top of oil paint.

my painting journey started with apple barrel, army painter was a life changer

That turned out surprisingly good.