Subscribe or I'll steal your snare drum: bit.ly/2AyH1Fb As a drum teacher, one of the biggest drum related questions I get asked is about the cost of certain drums. Are expensive drums BETTER? Will cheaper drums work just as well? What defines a "better" sounding drum? For this video, I bought the cheapest 5.5" snare drum and the most expensive 5.5" snare on Amazon. An epic snare drum shoot out. Leave a comment below and let me know which snare you like the best!

@fishingloverfish7984

3 жыл бұрын

Love the vids

@StephenTaylorDrums

3 жыл бұрын

@@fishingloverfish7984 Thanks!

@richardstewart8716

3 жыл бұрын

I always make time for education, thank you.

@ab_ab_c

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I liked the sound of the cheaper snare drum better. Maybe fitting it with better hardware would improve it's range for less $ (if a person wanted that). The more expensive drum sounded like a snare + a bit of cow bell sound mixed into it. Not that appealing, imo. Just my $0.02

@StuPedassol

3 жыл бұрын

That's crazy that even the ludwig snare doesn't come with better rattlers on it or skins... You think for 759 it would be top of the line.

Bruh, if you send me the $20 snare and $400 Ill make you a snare that'll sound like its worth $30.

@StephenTaylorDrums

3 жыл бұрын

Overnighting rn

@DrummerGrrrl

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha.

@JailDoctor1

3 жыл бұрын

Watched both of your videos. Love 💘 it. I play drums but I'd rather play with drums. JLDR

@classixdrummer

3 жыл бұрын

The beard is strong with this one.

@clayevans2472

3 жыл бұрын

When two channels you sub to cross paths

One of the things I have told my students over the years is that great cymbals and heads will usually make a cheap drum set sound great, but cheap cymbals and heads will usually make a great drum set sound cheap.

@magedzaki9637

3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree

@Wootsickles

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure why I thought of this. I figure it's the same with power tools. You can buy the most high end table saw out there. If you use cheap blades and bad guides/accessories your cuts will still suffer.

@Mariusss100.

Жыл бұрын

Also, a bat drummer will usually make a great drum set sound cheap :))

@Solar.Geoengineering.Advocate

3 ай бұрын

or to put it another way expensive drumkits aint worth it

Snare drum:Please i have a wife and three toms

@musamnguni510

3 жыл бұрын

😂

wow. at first I hated the cheap drum but with the head change, I actually consistently like the cheaper one in every test. The expensive one had too much resonance that I didn't like

I just bought a 70’s Acrolite and I had the SAME thought about the dampener! Being able to change the character of the drum on the fly without having to put sticky stuff on the batter head is one of my favorite things about it

@musshwins412

3 жыл бұрын

I just bought a Gretsch Brooklyn standard snare. It has a huge dampener and it dampens perfectly. It reminds me of the old Slingerland RadioKing. My 1968 Ludwig LM400 rings like a metal snare should, but im loving this wooden Gretsch.

@K50ATTACK

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve gotta 6x5 late 70’s pearl jupiter and internal damping thing is awesome for sure.

It's the hardest thing about chasing a "Drum Sound" on a recording. Great example of how tuning has as much or more impact on the sound than the drum itself. Keep up the Great work.

I preferred the cheap snare especially in the mix.

@7echnoid

3 жыл бұрын

Yep was just about to comment the same. Liked that sound a lot more!

@misterknightowlandco

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

I loved both, actually. But the high tuning on the expensive snare made it sound a little bit too "St.Anger-y" for my taste.

The 800$ one has a lot more 'presence', but the cheap one sound suprisinly good.

If you're stuck with a cheap drum kit, the right heads can make a huge difference. I started with a $50 drumkit my brother bought. We tried a whole bunch of things, and bought Remo (because everyone buys Remo. Then I tried Evans heads, the models that lean towards brightness. The difference was night and day, and my brothers walked in and said, "wow, what did you do?!". Other than that, buy the second cheapest of everything, kids. Cars, drums, hookers, wine, whatever - second cheapest is always the best bang for buck! ;-)

wow, that don't sound like an $800 Ludwig snare to me. I'm betting a $100 Acrolite can blow that snare away on any day.

@nevenvarljen6694

3 жыл бұрын

One of the worst expensive snares that i've heard was this one

@beatleszilla

3 жыл бұрын

@@nevenvarljen6694 seemed to work for The Beatles

@ErickC

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! The Acrolite is an amazing all-around value because they're relatively cheap and the only way to make them sound bad is if you try *really hard.*

@garysmith3173

3 жыл бұрын

Wow I’d love to find $100 Acrolite. In the uk a new 14x6 would cost £500-£600! Vintage ones are the same price range!

@maciekomis

3 жыл бұрын

@@garysmith3173 14x6 were uncommon and always expensive. i don't think there even are vintage 6s. my 2 acrolites were quite cheap. less than $200 with shipping from US to europe. but that was about 10 years ago.

Every cheap/expensive comparison video I've been watching basically confirms that, at least sound-wise, there's no need to spend crazy money on stuff. Of course you don't wanna go cheap, in a live situation the difference would be huge! once you reach a certain quality standard, over that point it's just collecting stuff or personal gratification imho.. which of course is good, if that's what you're looking for! 😊

@StephenTaylorDrums

3 жыл бұрын

Quality used gear or mid level priced. There is a reason you see me playing a starclassic kit and not their top shelf stuff. I feel it's more genuine to show everyone what I would be playing in real life on gigs and not what I could play just because I have an endorsement.

@Solar.Geoengineering.Advocate

3 ай бұрын

no actually id say in live settings it'd be noticed even less. unless ur playing like quiet jazz or whatever in a tiny venue

Hey Stephen, I know you're an Aquarian guy, but save that Ludwig snare side head! The collars are mechanically locked, rather than glued, and they hold their tuning really well! Also, they're super thin, and will last a long long time. I use them on all my snares, even if they're not a Ludwig snare. I think the only other company around with mechanically locked drumhead collars is Attack, but I could be wrong. You should do a segment about the difference of the two! Cheers!

@samjimenez4573

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting

Not gonna lie, I actually prefer the tone of the cheap snare overall. It's meatier. I don't like the ring that comes out of the expensive snare. I think I'd be a little pissed if I had paid $800 for that snare.

@jonset7

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Overall , the cheap one sounds thicker, at least to my ears. The cheap snare’s sound/tone fits in better with the vibe of the song being played in the video. When used in the context of another song with a different vibe, the Ludwig may sound better in the mix.

@PJBonoVox

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, same. Honestly I didn't like either snare all told, but the cheaper share had something closer to what I like.

@bebop425

3 жыл бұрын

That ring was a little annoying after a bit, agree. I might use it in one song, but not general use

@austinshoupe3003

3 жыл бұрын

Poplar is a great recording wood. Very punchy and thick sounding. Just not that loud. There's also the quirks of ludwig's hardware and the rather niche design of the Ludwig shell. There was no way the same heads and tuning were going to work for equally well for both.

@FreeScience

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not a drummer, but the Ludwig would sit better in a jazz song to my ears.

Hey Stephen, sorry if you have already done this and I have missed it but if not, please could you do a video on how you mix snares like the light mix in this video. That would be super useful!

I've been playing a vintage generic snare for years and honestly have been in love with it. It has an internal damper and I use it constantly it's probably the main adjustment that gets used most. I love that I can adjust it on the fly depending on the room size and mic setup.

I didn't expect the cheap snare to sound remotely as good as it sounds, maybe because Stephen is such a good drummer

@larrytate1657

3 жыл бұрын

Except tuned low the cheap snare sounded unusable it was so bad.

@JGC1

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry, but there's no mistery in playing the snare in the way it's played on this video. The cheap snare may not sound superb, but the premium snare that costs 25 times more, doesn't sound 25 times better.

@petermcnallt12pm

Жыл бұрын

sounded better than the ludwig IMO on the 'out of box' test anyway. surprising.

Thanks for taking the time to do this! As others have said, that cheap snare actually sounded pretty good in its sweat spot, even before you replaced the heads and snares.

I really appreciate how you demo the snare with and without processing, and in a mix. It’s very insightful.

@StephenTaylorDrums

3 жыл бұрын

You would be surprised at just HOW much talking, debating, and discussion went in to the layout of this video lol. Love the guys I get to work with in the edit on these vids

I would be pretty disappointed with that 800$ snare even when you made it sound good for what it can do.

Grosgrain ribbon for snare straps. Works amazingly well and doesn’t slip and it’s about two dollars a roll at Walmart. For years I had problems with slipping plastic straps or breaking strings. I use grosgrain on all my snares now, highly recommend.

@mr.145

3 жыл бұрын

Me too,gently melt the cuts with a cigarette lighter ,to stop them fraying.

This video has made me realise that my snare sounds like shit

@Joshstix95

3 жыл бұрын

Just tune the bottom head really tight (like really tight) tune the top head to your preference ... problem solved

@K50ATTACK

3 жыл бұрын

Get a tension watch measure thing. Match the batter head with the snare head numbers wise, a little gel. And you’re set. But seriously, get a drum meter of some sort. I got the tama like 6 years ago. Can’t be beaten.

@mickschnabel

3 жыл бұрын

@@Joshstix95 I've actually had the bottom head blow out before due to doing that, however it did sound good prior to that happening

@Joshstix95

3 жыл бұрын

@@mickschnabel yeah I do that all the time . I noticed remo hazyz last longer then any other brand tuning wise ... I busted my evans lastweek hahaha

@bojanglesobrien6883

3 жыл бұрын

@@mickschnabel it was all good til it wasn't 😆

So I never thought to much about swapping out my original resonate head on my snare, mostly just never had a reason, so I did after watching this along with new snare wire (one had broke anyway so had an excuse) and just wow, wish I had done sooner.

Late 60s Rogers Dynasonic, chrome makes these drums sound like the cardboard boxes they were shipped in. Nice cracking attack, great tone, just a wee bit of ring and terrific snare throw. Plus built like a tank.

One thing this video shows for sure: The sound of the micing, the mix, and the player outweigh the sounds of the snare itself. I went back and forth from the front end of the video to the back and I think the preference was to the cheaper snare here in general. I use all electronic drums at this point for a lot of reasons, but getting a great snare drum sound is so important - even hearing these two against one another leads to the same end - it matters most in the playing and in the mix. Aside from that, no one in the listening world cares if it was a Ludwig or a "My Pillow" if it sounds good in the mix! Thanks for the video.

Fantastic video!! Critically throughout and honest. And really well structured testing. Liked the notes you displayed on the bottom right. Hundreds of these videos online and one just watches them (like me chilling after sunday lunch), but this time I paused & got my headphones (from the other room - imagine: i actually left the couch!!). Thank you and keep it up.

@StephenTaylorDrums

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul! Glad you dug the pacing and layout...A LOT of thought and discussion went in to that part lol

Great test, very thorough and well exacuted. I think you should do cymbals next, but it would cost you a fortune. I like how you showed how the drums sit in the mix.

Awesomeness for sure , what a perfect compression. .first rate video You Sir Rock!

I appreciate that you read your followers even if drumming is not there anymore. still love that catchy tune. Put on loop for 3. I might learn to walk and play drums again. Workout song for sure!

From 1 drummer to another Great video thanks for doing this !!! I learned so much...

Great video as always. Thanks again, Stephen!

Good video, dude. Love the notes during the playing examples. Spot on in my opinion.

Fantastic video! I really loved your side notes!! I like the diversity in your videos. You are really creative, keep up the good work! 👌

@StephenTaylorDrums

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mik!

What a great comparison video! I appreciate that you kept some control variables like the dimensions and heads to really get to the differences.

@StephenTaylorDrums

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

That picture you used at the start of all the gear is from Sunderland Music, my local drum shop ran by the legendary Willy Wright, it’s since moved premises but the new place is just as packed! Every pit of drum gear I own is from that shop. I couldn’t believe my eyes when it popped on the screen

This was cool. Thank you!

Great comparison! Thanks for all your hard work making these (very time consuming). I’ve had Sound Percussion snares up against Gretsch’s and sometimes the cheaper ones surprise me.

Idk about everyone else but i love the slight overtones when hitting rimshots, i would prefer the Ludwig snare

To be honest the cheapo isn’t actually awful, but I didn’t think it sounded much better after you did the changes.

@nickpisarczyk

3 жыл бұрын

me too i didn’t really like the sound of either drum to be honesy

Straight away I like both. One nice resonate sound, other very dry. Both sound great.

Really interesting video. Thanks.

Basically, it means that tuning your drums properly (what I don't have do to anymore now that I live in a flat with an e-kit) and mixing it afterwards can do the job pretty good. This why I have so much respect for people who gained so much experience that they can make any drum kit sound amazing. And that does not include the drummer, who can do so many things with good dynamic range ! I really enjoyed the video btw. thanks a lot !

I love the P88 strainers, I put them on all my Ludwig snares I use for touring. Very reliable and functional.

Super dope video!!!

Stephen, I'm with you brother. I put the darn resonant hoop on wrong all the time! I'll even tell myself while taking it off (remember to put it on correctly) and still do it.

This is why I buy used...got a 14x6.5 Pearl Maple Free Floater for under $200 on eBay, for instance. Personally, that $800 snare doesn't sound anywhere near that price point, and the cheap-o snare works with mixing, but I'd be afraid of breaking it by accident (and I'm not THAT hard of a hitter).

i have a sonor 503 (china cheap) set I use for practice cause its easy to set up and is small.. the snare that came with it is awesome and works better in a lot of circumstances than my Tama Swingstar and Sonor Phonic snare. Paid $200 for the whole set and it came with cymbals on craigslist... turned around and sold the cymbals for $200...

Dear Stephen, great video, super production, very clear thoughts! I agree completely: each drum has it's sweet spot, there is (almost) no really bad drum. As you mentioned, often the hardware is the limitation for a (semi-) professional use. I once had a cheap snaredrum (Newsound, more than 25 years ago) and here after some rimshots the rims became uneven... (and I wasn't a hard-hitter back then!). Up to a certain level you can replace the critical parts, but then you have to ask yourself if it's worth it or if you should invest a little more on a more decent instrument. I also own a lot of Ludwig-Drums and I made the same observation like you did: They are sometimes a little bit "strange" with some details... Quality is also sometimes a (minor) problem. In 2009 I bought a Liverpool 4-Kit (100 anniversary) and after unboxing it I noticed, that some of the screws of the lugs were screwed in at an angle... I could fix it, but that's not what one expects from a limited edition drum that should heritage the company... :-) but in the end the drum sounds cool AT IT'S SWEET SPOT. As a german drummer I recommend also to check out some of the Sonor models (Phonic reissue or Jost Nickel-model). These are great instruments with a great tuning range, build for a lifetime. So thank you very much for this interesting vid here! Stay healty and keep on drumming!

Very well produced video. I actually liked the cheap snare at mid tuning the most.

Great video dude! I’m glad you strapped up. It made my day.

@StephenTaylorDrums

3 жыл бұрын

Been marching around the neighborhood on breaks this week.

@randycassidy198

3 жыл бұрын

@@StephenTaylorDrums 😂

Really well made video dude thanks

@StephenTaylorDrums

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks clifford!

I preferred the sound of the cheaper snare in all three instances, no mix, low mix, and with music. It's going to sound crazy, but it sounded "happier" to me... which fit the music much better and made me feel good inside.

Cheapie works just fine - at home practicing. Currently playing on a $20 (used rogue found online), with Evans mesh head. I may put the $25 DW 3 position snare butt on it to be able to get the snares quieter for after bedtime practice. But for it's intended purpose, you don't need to waste money on something that only matters to gammas with no value to your future. Play what works, if its a trashcan lid that builds your million dollar chops, then a trashcan lid is magnificently better than a million dollar drum that you are scared to whack with a stick.

I really appreciate your positive attitude and your willingness to share your experiences and wisdom. To me, the player is 9/10ths of any equation. I believe the issue of bearing edge and snare bed is a very important aspect to achieving a good sound.

@StephenTaylorDrums

3 жыл бұрын

The player really is the most important part for sure

I literally just found your channel AND im early for a video. Honestly my timing is perfect xD

@StephenTaylorDrums

3 жыл бұрын

I see what you did there ;^)

Stephen, thx for doing this time consuming video. You apparently Love Drums and Drumming. At 70 YO, and a only a Recreational player in retirement, I returned to playing drums after 50 Years (1969). I learned to "play" really By Ear (had maybe 8 lessons in 1966), played with HS Buddies in a Garage Band, that never got out of the garage. Had to keep my cheapo kit (forgot the brand which I purchased form the Music Store in Flushing Queens NY in 1967 or so) in one of the bandmates' basement where we practiced. Back then, I knew Nothing of Tuning drums, different drum heads, etc. I have learned a great deal from you and some others On Line. I truly thank KZread for that. I see that you installed Aquarian Batter and Reso Heads on these two drums? Would other Heads have had a different bearing on the sounds? I have used Evans HD Dry batter heads on the 4 snares I now own: DW Design Series Nickel over Brass 14 X 6.5 purchased Used form Reverb for $250; PDP Concept Maple 14 X 5.5 (which is part of my current kit that I purchased USED [6 drum kit from Guitar Center for $450 last year]; a Mapex 13 X 3.5 Piccolo Snare; a Cheapo Griffin 13 X 3.5 "piccolo" snare; and a DW 10 X 6 Popcorn Snare. The DW snare has a HD dry batter head which previous owner installed , same for the PDP snare which I installed (improved the sound a great deal); same for the Griffin snare ; kept the Mapex Remo batter head ; and kept the DW standard Batter head on the Popcorn snare. To further bore everyone, I attach the Popcorn snare to the High Hat cymbal stand (with a Cowbell.....You Gotta Have a Cowbell), and the Mapex Snare is on a separate stand to my left. I switch off the PDP and the DW snares as the mood strikes me... They sound a little different and tune them comparably (medium to high). In the near future, I will experiment with different snare batter heads for the Hell of It. One of the benefits of being Retired , lots of time on my hands especially with COVID constraints. Be well all. Happy Drumming.

@Chiroman527

2 жыл бұрын

Correction, 5 Snares that I own...

@StephenTaylorDrums

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, each company has a slightly different sound. I always suggest to try a different drum head each time you need to replace them and figure out which is your favorite.

Like your videos - always interesting and I often learn something! Note that the new Ludwig P88 is designed to not "detune" while you're playing, similar to a few other recent strainers by others, hence the requirement to flip the lever before the knob will turn. A feature for some, a bug for others.

For the song, I'm all in on the cheap snare! It filled the exact spot it needed to

Happy New Year Stephen !! I have a "weird" snare situation which i hope you can help me with. I own a DW Design Series Nickel over Brass 14 X 6.5 Snare drum purchased Used in 2021. When I received it via Reverb, the previous owner installed a HD Dry Batter head. Both heads were Cranked up. It played great out of the box. A number of weeks ago, the batter head wore out and I replaced the head with a new HD dry. In addition, I own a PDP Concept Maple 6 Drum kit which included a 14 X 5.5 snare which was purchased Used. Installed a new HD Dry batter head on that drum as well. After installing the new head on the DW , I have been constantly tweaking and playing with the Tuning (I re-installed the snare head [stock clear head and the snare wires], but I cannot get to that "sweet Spot" I play the PDP snare and and other cheapo Griffin Piccolo snare at Home (I/m 71, retired and play about 1 hour a day for enjoyment). A week ago or so, frustrated with the sound of the DW, I placed on top of my 16 inch Floor Tom in my kit, and played a session with the PDP snare. During the playing, I did a fill and hit the DW snare while atop of the Tom, and BINGO..... Better than the sweet spot I had out of the box!! It had that nice, Bonham Ludwig Supraphonic Sound ! As soon as I lifted the DW and played it in the snare stand, it changed and no longer as good. Put it back on the Tom and it was back again? Even the PDP snare sounds much better doing this. I've posted this at Drummer forums and elsewhere. 1 Poster said that I was probably achieving the resonance of the 2 Drums. Another Kiddingly said I may have discovered the New Snare Stand? I respect your expertise and hopefully you can explain what this is? Hate to sound a little Over The Top ( I do have a little OCD about things...) but this inadvertent experiment did yield a very desirable sound that I could not achieve with tuning tweaks. I even listened to my wife (God Knows that I love her still ater 48 years of marriage - it was she that gifted me a Cheapo Gammon Kit for Xmas 2018 which allowed me to get back to Drumming after 50 YEARS), suggested putting a piece of cardboard or other material into the snare basket and then play the snare on top of that. That helped very little. I even tried a 16 inch clear Remo batter head placed in the stand and put the snare atop of that. Same thing. A little better but NOT the same. Told you it was "weird". Thx for your time and attention. THX to any advice out there.

I really liked how my first snares had internal muffling, it could also be played on for a nice effect.

I think a lot depends on what kind of sound you are looking for especially in regards to the genre of music you be playing. Sometimes that honky or ringy sound works for certain types of music as much as a rock sounding snare won't work for a jazz gig. I think it was good that you applied different mixes in your demonstration because that's another thing to take into consideration if you are recording. Some of the recording plug-ins these days can shape the sound dramatically.

I bought an old Adam Atomic Sound snare drum for $20 . Took her apart and refurbished everything , new heads and it sounds great . Also has the internal muffler.

5:50 That's surprisingly good for $29

Terrific job Stephen

@StephenTaylorDrums

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks brant!

Great video Stephen

The new Yamaha recording custom birch snare does all tuning ranges surprisingly well. Great snare.

🎼Cool video brother. 🙏

The mid-range tuning on the cheap drum is my favorite of all on either drum.

Good comparison. Been thinking of going back to a wood snare 😂 still haven't yet, though. Love Ludwigs. My 14x7 or 8 seems to tune a bit _higher_ than the highest of my Pearl Black Beauty 13x3.5 piccolo.

For the Ludwig, I'd probably use compression with a fast attack, ratio 3:1, and a moderate threshold. It's a very snappy sounding snare, so it needs some smoothing.

Would be interesting to see what changing the batter and/or reso hoops could do as well

My first drumset, in 1967, was made in Japan from Filipino mahogany. In those days, "made in Japan" denoted cheap junk and was quickly ridiculed. I learned then that cheap drums can be tuned to sound great. I was 11 years old but I got my set sounding very good. A rock and roll career was started that Christmas.

This is well conceived and presented. That said, have you discussed what a drum needs to sound great, e.g. a shell that’s in round, rims that aren’t warped, decent, well tuned heads, rods that hold tension, a snare strainer that is adjustable and stays in place, and consistent, true, bearing edges? Cost isn’t necessarily an indicator of great build quality, although better built instruments tend to require better materials and more skilled labor. If not, this is something to consider. Investing in an instrument is all well and good, but it’s usually better to invest aware of what makes a quality instrument, rather than just throw more money at a vendor and hope you get something great.

Super interesting but I play digital (yamaha) and select from my tweaked snares. Actually gave me some ideas for further tuning on mine.

Man you made that cheap one sound good with that mix. Great videos. Very entertaining.

How did I not know about such a cool drumming channel? Subscribed.

Nice! It was a cool comparison!

@StephenTaylorDrums

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@yeetfeet1878

3 жыл бұрын

No problem!

Before I started learning to play drums I never could have guessed just how dynamic drums can be as far a tuning goes. I didn't even know you could tune drums before, lol.

The $800 drum, medium tuning was my favorite of the bunch. Seemed to fit in with the music the best.

Hi sir ,I am a great fan of u ,lots of love from India ,sir i am a beginner drummer last year I had my first stage performance in which I really faced many critisism and after that It really drowned me to where I could quit I don't know sir it's really hunting me down ,but I don't wanna quit ,I really like drumming sir❤️

Expensive certainly doesn't always sound "better"...as with everything , it's in the hands of the artist. I've had very expensive snares sound horrible regardless the amount of tweaking, and I have had CB-700 snares that I could make sound amazing..Expensive usually comes with quality but not always sonic dominance I have found..just my 2 snares worth😉

I think the most get what you pay for in a typical average set are the cymbals crash ride highhat especially you really see and hear the difference between cheap and expensive quality

There's an old saying, "Its not the arrow, its the Indian." While Ludwig make a good product, you are also paying for the name and the association with THAT drum. I believe its what Ringo Starr mostly used with the Beatles. If Ringo had the $29 drum, I'll bet it would still sound good. Being a guitar player, both drums sound pretty good to me, which is due to your skill.

I have a steel Tama that came with my swingstar and it’s basically the one I use. I have a wood shell pdp that I think was $300. They are night and day. I have way more control over the Tama.

What a great comparison. I really appreciate the no bullshit assesment. I needed a rehearsal kit for a rehearsal spot. I traded someone for a pearl export kit that this guy got for his kids. Of course because there wasn't instant gratification and hey got bored with it. I didn't expect much from the kit and wasn't really concerned about it after all, its just for rehearsals. Well blow my mind. I couldn't believe how great they sounded (once I tuned them). I didn't even bother changing the heads. The snare sounded great with the Pearl heads. I'll change the heads when they wear out. Another drummer uses the kit on occasion at the spot. Everytime I came back to it , he has it all gaff taped up. It annoys the hell out of me. It kills the great tones. He actually quit using the kit because he didn't like the sound of it. LoL. Everyone else seems to appreciate the sound. So many times i have seen drummers gaff tape the hell out of drums. I've even seen paper towels folded up and taped to the heads. I call it kotex pads for drums. LoL. I don't like the mufflers inside the shell. I run my drums wide open. I only use a bit of gaff when there may be an ugly tone in a live setting. Thar was a little trick that I picked up from a touring drummer.

In the mix, surprisingly I probably preferred the cheap snare with the stock head, haha! Was not expecting that. But it's all about what fits.

@StephenTaylorDrums

3 жыл бұрын

ALL about what fits and works

I picked up a jazz fest on clearance at GC for $420. Threw some 20 strand puresound wires on it, and absolutely love it. Don’t know if I wold love it at full price though.

@StephenTaylorDrums

3 жыл бұрын

You wouldn't. I agree...it's a mid price range drum in my book.

Do you have any videos on how you tune drums? I never saw the stick trick with the strainer before. I love ludwig but I have to say the cheaper snare sounded good. Great video idea...🤘🤘

Can you do something similar with the Ludwig Supralite and a vintage Ludwig snare? I keep reading that the Supralite is incredible for the money and gets you super close to 'that' sound. I think people would appreciate such a thorough, well-produced video about those snares. Keep up the good work!

@ryswyk5894

3 жыл бұрын

The supralite is the only snare bonham ever used, which tells you everything you need to know lol

@mrcoatsworth429

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryswyk5894 Don't you mean the Supraphonic? The Supralite is like 200 bucks. That's why I'd like a comparsion video in this style :)

@larryduffrin3525

3 жыл бұрын

I have a Supralite and a classic maple Ludwig snare like Ringo played . The supralite is my go 2 snare it just sounds like what a rich musical instrument should . The classic Ludwig sounds just like the Ludwig in this video not really standing out in any area ! My 2 cents

Great comparison Stephen 👏 👍 👌 Where could find a download of the track you're playing with? 😉

@zacharyashdown7286

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously!! I absolutely love that song he's playing along with. I'd love to practice to it myself. I think it's the same one he used in his "I paid three drum legends to play record the same song."

Very good video..

Great video! Can't ignore important aspects such as hardware limitations when tuning, so I'm not saying I would buy the $29 snare drum, but I must say in the final A/B comparison I liked the sound of the cheapest one a lot more than the Ludwig. Great playing helps, of course... I would probably make the Ludwig sound like $100 and the other one sound like a popcorn bucket

Great Video! Very interesting to hear the difference between those snares. Beside from the sound I assume that the cheap drum won't hold the tuning if you go the rimshot route.

I like your experience!

What about playing feel between the two...and..what wires do you use?

0:47 making this my new screen saver

Didn't care for either snare, but the video was great! Nice job!

When changing the tunings from low-mid-high, are you just tuning the top head or bottom as well?

Drum #2 sounds the best - which I determined by the first few seconds of the intro before any modifications.