Like if you think owning a plane is better than a boat!

@shane_fryd_rice

4 жыл бұрын

Flying Journalism After owning a boat and flying planes, I’d prefer a floatplane.

@CoryJohnsonpilot

4 жыл бұрын

I own both.

@FlyingJournalism

4 жыл бұрын

Right... seaplane seems ideal!! but there isnt much of a party on the seaplane. so having a friend with a boat is perfect.. ideally my dream would be amphib plane to dock, everyone gets excited, you jump on the party boat , you look like a bad ass because your a pilot and crack open the bottles of champagne!!! And that's a good ass day!

@shane_fryd_rice

4 жыл бұрын

@@FlyingJournalism Now that sounds like a plan.

@FlyingJournalism

4 жыл бұрын

@@shane_fryd_rice lol.. dude I think it could happen....., when I start getting paid for youtube videos 🤣..i got a front seat reserved for you!👍👍

I'll be 64 in Feb and am a student pilot in my own airplane. I will be flying from Illinois to Sun N Fun in April (with my CFI) and when I get back will solo, and take my final test. I want to eat a steak in every state in the country. May not make it to Alaska or Hawaii, but I'll get to all the rest. I waited a lifetime to do this and it's the most excited I've been in years. Age is a state of mind, and money can't be spent in the grave. Go for it!

@smorrow5

4 жыл бұрын

I'm in the same spot as you, 63, learning to fly a Cessna 175 (mine), flew to sun and fun last year with my cfi, started soloing in 2019. Nothing better than solo flying your own plane. Done all the work and waiting to take the test. Good luck and have a blast, I am!

@walterrawdanik8077

4 жыл бұрын

You think you can visit every state in a Bristell ?

@dh-flies

4 жыл бұрын

@@walterrawdanik8077 Absolutely. It cruises at 120 kts, has a 800 mile cruise range, max ceiling of 16,500 ft. And I did omit Alaska and Hawaii...It's a 9 hour flight from Chicago to Lakeland Fla. That's appx 1000 miles. Piece of cake. You don't think I could visit every State in a Bristell? I checked out your channel. It looks like you're near me. I have flown that Sling 2 from Galt as well. Could hit all the States in that plane too. What do you fly?

@walterrawdanik8077

4 жыл бұрын

Douglas H I fly a 2012 Sting S4. The reason I asked is that flying LSAs at such long distances takes a lot of planning and time ..waiting for weather, going around bad weather etc - say if you want to take a 3 day flight somewhere ... you gonna have to take 7 days off of work - at least 2 days buffer on each side due to weather uncertainties etc. ... it is just not that practical unless you have all the time in the world

@almarasco8088

4 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome guys glad to hear that your pursuing your love of Avaition. I will be flying from Illinois to sun n fun this April also on my 7th plane and don’t regret any of it.

Hello Ted, as retirement is approaching for me, my wife wants to travel and the sailboats that we've had were wonderful but at 6 knots on a good day (I know you're a sailor) well...you get the picture. I'm also a retired corporate pilot. That said, while watching your videos (while researching Cessna 177B+) I found you. Then my wife started watching. Now my wife has dictated that I drop the boat, buy a plane and take her to the Bahamas and Florida which were our stomping grounds 30+ years ago. I don't know whether to thank you or get mad at you. She says we can rent a boat when we get to our destination...Hmmm. Anyway, keep up the good work and thanks for the honest facts and info. Cheers! KSAV

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

My guess is... If your wife WANTS you to buy a plane you are truly in the .000000001% BUY THE AIRPLANE AND GO TO THE BAHAMAS!!!!! Your wife is a wise woman- get a piper malibu....

@sonshinelight

4 жыл бұрын

@@Over50andLearningToFly heck, never mind the Malibu, get a TBM 850

@greensphinx

4 жыл бұрын

Calmargarita Heck yeah!

@zaidlionel1534

3 жыл бұрын

I guess Im kinda off topic but do anyone know of a good site to watch new tv shows online?

"Hi. My name is Dean. I have been an aviation addict for several years now and...I too am over 50 and learning to fly" .." Hi Deeeaaan" :) I started ground school at 51, earned my private at 53, bought a plane earlier this year at 54...and today flew her to the shop to have avionics upgraded because I'm starting my instrument training. 1962 Cherokee with a 180 upgrade...LOVE IT...adding a couple AV-30s, Garmin 175 and a few other knick knacks. So funny how close your story parallels my own and I'm sure many others. I'll never sit around the retirement home talking about the amazingly smart financial decisions I made....but oh man will I talk about those sunset flights!! Thanks for your insight!

Lol! Have to say literally I’m right with you! Bought my Cardinal 1971 177B FG in June 2109 with 230 hours time. Just passed IFR written last month. Upgraded panel, literally finished just now! Starting IFR training next week! Added 2 G5’s, Avidyne 540, PMC 8000 audio panel. Replaced KX 155 with a Garmin something! started flying 2 years ago after beating cancer. Made me need to realize bucket list items, and PPL was first on list! I’m 66 and want to make up for all time flying I’ve missed! 2020 goal is IFR cert and to hit every FL airport with restaurant on airport grounds. Bought 2019 $100 Hamburger book and using that as my guide. Based at KLNA! I’m sure we will cross paths in FL. I’ll buy you breakfast or lunch! Safe and enjoyable flying! 😎

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

Thats awesome! Lt me know when you are in St Petersburg FL!

@muhammadsteinberg

4 жыл бұрын

I see you're interested guns also. When the wife complains about my plane I tell her it used to be 3 G's (guns, guitars and girls), the plane is replacing one of them...lol Kudos on kicking C's butt!!!

@toyztoyz2000

4 жыл бұрын

OMG where have I been, never thought of a book with a list of 100 hamburger joints. would love to get one. Please share ISBN number.

My father said almost anyone can buy an airplane. It is owning it that is another story. He also owned a 1977, 177 RG. I was the A&P mechanic but needed an IA to approve the annual inspection. Still it was expensive. He researched hidden costs and maintenance issues on different airplanes. I did rebuild the IO 360 because of an oil scraper ring failure. Found spalling on the cam so we did a major overhaul. Airplane parts cost a fortune. I’ve owned boats but they never needed the hands on that airplane needed. He loved that airplane! Good video!

You won’t miss that fuel consumption rate in a faster plane. I owned and flew my first 300 hours in a 172 and then upgraded to a Bonanza. Overall fuel consumption is the same because I get to my destination so much faster.

@walterrawdanik8077

4 жыл бұрын

Alan Cluff I’d thats your goal, the taking airlines will get you there even faster and cheaper ....

@williamfahle151

4 жыл бұрын

The best part about owning a Bonanza is that you don't have Bonanza envy - that is, there is really no where to go from here other than really expensive options like a Malibu or TBM.

Never too old! Make the most of it

Hey great video. I'm also over 50, but learnt to fly in 90/91 and haven't flown since, but am at a time in my life where I'd like to get back into it. I appreciate the $$$$ posting on avionics upgrade, but what I'm really interested is the $$$$ on all the maintenance.......I know this will be so different from A/C to A/C, but breakdowns of maintenance & inspection costs would really set a great picture for anyone (like me) trying to factor these costs. Once again, great video and so stoked to see a chap over 50 having a go.

Single pilot IFR without an autopilot is do-able but you need to remain very current and ease into it with gradually lowering minimums. Just like you disregarded the “you’ll never get your money out” comments, likewise avoid the guys that say you can just keep your scan up and that an autopilot is a crutch for weak pilots. It’s neither. If you plan to fly IFR you should consider adding an autopilot. I’m sure your instrument instructor told you that staying ahead of the plane is crucial to IFR safety. The most offbeat distraction can lead you to losing focus even for an instant and the chaos cascade can begin. An autopilot let’s you deal with the flight from a calmer more confident perspective and goes a great deal towards avoiding tunnel vision.

@FlyingJournalism

4 жыл бұрын

Gees that was a long comment randy, but everything you said was 100%👍 correct.. I have hundreds of hours single pilot IFR with no auto pilot in 172, 150's, pa-28's etc.... the only downfall was not being ready for the crew environment, that was a hard adjustment for me atleast because I still kept wanting to do things on my own, but it's harder to do it the other way around (fly AP FD goes out, F.O. is sleeping ,then OMG I have to actually fly the plane, spatial disorientation, crash!😑)

@747-pilot

4 жыл бұрын

I absolutely and TOTALLY second what you said!! HARD IMC for virtually any length of time, without a GOOD autopilot, is insanity, plain and simple!! Now, yes, if your IMC mostly involves "climbing on top of that scattered or broken layer" and not constantly flying approaches down to (or close to) minimums, then it might be somewhat OK! And something like a Garmin GFC 500 is reasonably priced (relatively speaking) and perfectly complements the G5s Also one needs to keep in mind, contrary to popular belief, airliners typically don't spend much time in hard IMC, in spite of having the most sophisticated of autopilots, and a second pilot as well!! They mostly climb through (or descend through) the stuff, and then are well over (or under) it! When I watch air crash events involving IMC, from the Air Safety institute and other places, it boggles my mind that, in many of those incidents, the aircraft had a perfectly good and highly capable autopilot, and the pilots in those instances, simply did not make use of them!! Granted, most of those pilots had no instrument rating, but still! The autopilot is your best friend in those circumstances, holding the aircraft steady (wings level + altitude hold), while you figure, how to get out of the predicament you've just got yourself into!!

Was a 1990 Rusty pilot just bought my first plane (1957 C-172) Oct. 2018. LOVE it. I'm 62 and 225 hrs in now......Fly over 100 hrs per year so far. Instrument next.

Don't complain about your speed I only do 70mph, but I love my plane, it land & takes off short and I own it.

@robert_kotula

3 жыл бұрын

70mph is what I do on the motorway in my Ford Mondeo 😜

@flyingkub

3 жыл бұрын

@@robert_kotula Yes but I can go straight there and you have to follow the road and than get held up by caravans. :-)

@robert_kotula

3 жыл бұрын

@@flyingkub very true, just having a laugh. I’m often the one towing the caravan 😆

@flyingkub

3 жыл бұрын

@@robert_kotula I can speed at 80mph but the fuel burn is a bit high at that. Must say I do have a bit of a laugh at the caravans on the road but then they have a laugh when I put up my tent and they are looking at TV with a roat dinner.

@robert_kotula

3 жыл бұрын

@@flyingkub I think there’s a beauty to each kind of leisure activities. Caravans and motor homes have their own perks. Boats are a whole other kind of fun, but burn a lot of fuel and depending on the boat you probably cannot stay there for a week. Planes on the other hand have a whole other sense of freedom that I hope to be able to enjoy someday.

Owning your own GA plane is invaluable asset in my mind. Having the ability to go where you want when you want is the ultimate freedom. People will try to justify or negate your decision to own a plane. It's your plane and you own it because you want to end of story. Stay current and proficient! Brad

Enjoyed your video, Ted. Thanks for sharing. You have a laid back style with a lot of energy that is easy to watch. Keep the videos coming!

Awesome!! Glad to see you are loving flying and your Cardinal. You have the right attitude. Love the channel.

“Anywhere anytime” ... that was a key factor in my decision to buy an aircraft a few months ago (I’m also over 50 and about 220 hours). I travel mostly for work and being able to set my own agenda, not worrying about what time my flight is leaving and skipping all of lines and hassle of traveling commercial feels amazing. Financially, I do love the ability to write-off the costs of the plane on my taxes. If your a business owner and travel more than 50% for work, then the depreciation and other tax advantages can be significant. That said, we all know flying yourself is rarely cheaper than flying commercial. But what value do I put on the flexibility, enjoyment, and simply sitting in that left seat? Priceless. Great videos! Keep up the good ... maybe it’s time I slapped some GoPros on my wings!

Dude I’m 46 and you literally just inspired the hell out of me.. good job

I've owned several airplanes, and loved each one of them. From the Aircoupe, to a Citabria, to my A36 each and every flight is a new adventure. Life is too short for "I wish I would've..." I'm glad you're enjoying your Cardinal. You found a great time-builder and have taken good care of it. When you move up to a Mooney or a Bonanza, you'll really appreciate the 30-40kts of airspeed. Safe Skies!

I had an opportunity to buy half of a 182RG. My wife words were "Buy the damn plane"! So I did. Then, the fellow who owned the other half got cancer. Pursuant to our written agreement, I bought his share, and now own the whole plane. Absolutely love it. Does it make financial sense? Not a chance. Has it changed my life in wonderful ways? Every single day. My advice - take the plunge. Buy something that fits your experience and price target, and fly the heck out of it. You can always get your money out of it, and the experience really is priceless.

@Over50andLearningToFly

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely I feel exactly the same way thanks for watching!

I grew up in Pinellas County and now live in Northern Virginia. If you ever want someone to tag along for one of those flights let me know!

I’m 54 Learning to fly is still on my bucket list.

@Renegadeproject

4 жыл бұрын

I am 56 and it is on mine also

@PurveyorOfCuriosities

3 жыл бұрын

I'm 57 with 13 hours. Go for it.

@livelongandprosper70

3 жыл бұрын

@@PurveyorOfCuriosities im 50, never been on ANY plane in real life.. but love flight sims lol..

@marktourgeman3006

3 жыл бұрын

Do it now. I'm 51, as of now, I have 8 hours as a student pilot.

Love the C177. I flew a 177RG for 5 years a loved it. Enjoy your videos.

I love the freedom of owning your own aircraft. Thanks for your thoughts!

Totally enjoy your videos Ted . Keep em coming !

Nice video men!!! Hopefully I will see you around sometime soon. I fly out KHEF and currently finishing my Instrument rating.

Very well put in this video, nice job and accomplishment.

Thanks for the inspirational videos. After watching your videos, I'm more motivated to learn to fly and hopefully can buy my own Cessna 150. Again, thank you very much for uploading and sharing your informative experience. Continue flying safely and God bless.

Great video thanks. Just hit 40 and live in Florida too. Hopefully flying with you soon.

Thank you, great video. I've always been interested in learning to fly, but at 50 year of age, though I may have left it too late to start. I will look into it now :-)

When your CFII is hiding the GPS screen from your view with a notepad, he could just switch to some non-map page (like the home screen). That'll save his arm from getting tired 🙂

I bought my first airplane, a 1967 Cessna 337, 3 weeks before I took my PPL in 1994. Avemco Insurance let me do my multiengine IFR training in that plane. I started the same day I took my PPL. I’m on my 9th airplane and I couldn’t agree with you more. The cost of rental aircraft to do my multi, MEI and commercial multi would have been 25% of the cost f my airplane. Having your own plane set up the way you want it and then doing all the right things over and over makes you a much safer pilot which is good for all of us. I really like what your doing and have told several of my 50+ friends about it. Keep up the good work you’re doing.

@muhammadsteinberg

4 жыл бұрын

DAMN YOU!!!...I'm beyond jealous!!!...337 is my goal. While in the USAF(80-91) I was in the aero club. We had possession of an USAF O2 that still had the comm package in it and the USAF paint scheme. Fell in love with that thing. Imo they are a piece of beautiful art. Congratulations on that purchase!!!...

Thanks for sharing your experience.

@Over50andLearningToFly

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Thank you for posting. I love in silver spring and love to come see your place for an interview. Let me know.

Thanks is for the encouragement !!

Thank you for sharing

Cool video. Thanks for sharing.

St. Pete huh? I live here out by Tyrone Mall area. Took lessons at Cecilys Flight School at Albert Whitted AP back in 93. Only have 32 hrs in the book but I was solo. Loved flying but ran out of money. Im getting the itch to get back into a Cessna 150/152 and finish what I started. Thanks for the great vids.

Great video I agree totally. Owning a plane for me is not a financial decision. Most purchases aren’t. I know I fly more knowing I can just swing by the airport on my way home for a quick flight. By the way, I burn 9gph at 160mph in my old Mooney :-)

Really enjoyed this video. You blend together various re-frames of what's truly important in aviation, that all intersect back to safety vs. the typical seemingly irrefutable topic of cost. Your methodical approach (training, experience, upgrades, maintenance) is refreshing. At the end of the day your aircraft will hold, and probably increase, in value. Interesting comparison between owning a boat vs. an aircraft. Of course, there is overall more responsibility with flying an aircraft, and you're guaranteed to make the nightly news over a boating incident. Coming in on final with that Lear ahead of you. I like observing your thinking -- you remove all the what-if's and side-bar chatter, and make a go/no go decision to land or takeoff. I remember being taught, at a grassfield, to always expect the unexpected. Typically on final, we focus on airspeed, altitude and other aircraft - because that's the language of aviation. In my case it was a last second go-around to avoid a 3 year old who ran on the field to retrieve a ball. Continued success with Commercial Rating. Might as well consider FOI, BGI and AGI....

This is SO inspiring! I turned 40 years old a few months ago and I sat down and did some life reflection and life planning. Airplane ownership was high on the list to achieve by age 50. Thanks for sharing your experience!

@MrSmith-cm2yo

4 жыл бұрын

There is a lot to consider that is not Told when you purchase a Plane... All Annuals Are not the same... Even for the same plane type... Get to know your or potential A&P... Please I repeat please talk to other aircraft owners... I fly mostly in the South... I can also tell you that racism is Alive and well here... Not to discourage you but to make you aware. Owning my plane has been one of my greatest adventures.

@louispatrick421

4 жыл бұрын

Mr. Smith, thank you sir.

I’ll take the fuel burn over speed any day and just enjoy that extra time airborne! 😎 Great video as always!

Nice video clip of the landing at the end...Beautiful Bird...!!!

Love your attitude! never too old to learn :)

Love your positive energy!

I also bought a plane September 2018 right after I started my flight training. I totally agree about the cost of ownership, you either want to fly or you don't. I know some pilots that have spread sheets to tell the the cost per hour etc. but I don't see the point. People usually don't do that for anything else. Let's face it no one needs to fly so there's no way to justify the expense anyway. And I also agree, having your own plane and being able to fly whenever and wherever you want is the ultimate human experience and expression of freedom. And we all know, freedom isn't free.😁

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

smorrow5 awesome - thanks for watching!!!

Thanks for the video.

Excellent stuff bro

I bought an airplane!! I am only half way through attaining my ticket but I really liked the idea of learning in my own bird. I plan on using it to build time, get IFR certified and become a better pilot. It is a 1960 C175A. It is in pristine condition and a joy to fly. Thanks for your videos.

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

Gino Mendoza absolutely! It is cheaper and it is yours !!!!

great vid boss

I am on my third aircraft ... Without a doubt it offers flexibility and freedom that is priceless and the feeling is unknown until you have one,. Flying to places very few have been and places I would not even consider without and aircraft because of the hassle of getting there.... The $$ is always a consideration,, a lot of times I feel somewhat selfish as the money spent could be used for other things , a second home , that everyone could use in a vacation spot. But you only go around once. So if you can afford one I truly recommend owning . But fly it and use it do not let it sit, as I see soo many do.Owning def will make you a better pilot.,and a safer one...

I appreciate the inspiration! I'm 41 and working on my instrument, and considering buying an airplane next year.

@Over50andLearningToFly

2 жыл бұрын

Do it!!!!’

I am just starting this journey now! I sold my sports car and am now waiting for the right plane to pop up. The plane community is awesome and 3 different people offered me a ride in their Cherokee Six/Lance to see if it was the right plane for me and my family. I truly can't wait till I can get the keys in my hand and fly every single day!

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

Congratulations that’s so awesome so start doing all your research online about what kind of plane you want to get and the three rules of aircraft purchase our research research research! Reach out to a lot of Facebook groups and look at your plane in 1000 different ways before you make a purchase take your time and go flying as much as possible. My advice to you if you’re going to get your license is maybe get 1520 hrs. of instruction and then go ahead and buy your own plane to finish your private pilots license off and then your instrument. Please feel free to reach out and all the best!

I am one month away from the 2 year mark myself. My baby is N28SK and like you I am very happy I bought the airplane. I did also do some upgrade in preparation for my instrument rating. Unfortunately i financed the plane and can't afford the gas even at 6 GPH without doing Uber to pay for gas. When it's paid off I plan to fly as much as possible. I enjoyed your video and glad someone agrees that it not about getting my money out of the upgrades more about getting what I want. I never intend to sell her and just give it to my kids when i am gone. That does not mean I will not be moving up to an SR22 but that years from now....

I was exactly the same as you, 220hrs when I bought my Long EZ, 450hrs now and I just got back from my first annual. Garmin panel upgrade with 2 G5s and a GNX375 (and a few other things). It's non-certified, so I've done some cowling mods that bumped my cruise speed up to 145kts @ 6gph. Love it. BTW, I always thought those 177s were faster than that. They look so sleek.

Of all the aircraft I have owned or flown, my fav is the Cessna 170 B. 25,000 + hours of flight time and the most fun was that little taildragger.

I read through the comments, expecting a bunch of negative comments on the amount you spent, but not a one. I too, went way overboard on my panel and got a lot of those responses. Five years ago, after retiring from a busy approach control, I bought a C172 and promptly spent $85K on the panel and other safety related systems. Did my instrument rating in 5 days. The plane goes back into the shop next month for more panel upgrades. My wife doesn't mind the money that I spend on the airplane, she wants to be safe too.

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

Randy White absolutely!!!

I bought a Mooney in Oct and we’re going through all the, “fixing things now”. I liked the video but the background music was a bit distracting while trying to listen.

thats a long way to go from Washington to Florida, has to be 650 or 700 nm, Great Video.

Hi, my wife and I just watch this video. Amazing Cardinal! She says, when you’re ready for that upgrade to a new airplane, since you’re not in this one to make money, she’d like to buy this one from you. She’s not a pilot yet, but this is tempting.

@08turboSS

4 жыл бұрын

Become a student pilot first. Airports will not let you buy a tie down for the plane or s small hanger without that plane.

@drpando

3 жыл бұрын

@@08turboSS Hi - I already have my PPL - I'm working on my instrument rating. Wife wants to buy it for me (yes, I'm a lucky guy).

A real pilot for sure.

Inspiring...

That's a sweet Cardinal! My son and I bought our first aircraft in 2016, a '77 Grumman Tiger. In the first year, we had to replace an elevator due to someone running into the plane on the ramp, a burnt out flap motor, a burnt out landing light replaced with an LED model, two main gear flats caused by FOD on the runway, and had to have our 430 WAAS refurbished due to a bad COM switch. Talk about an eye opener. However, I can't agree with you more that owning your own airplane is where it's at! We come and go as we please, weather permitting. We took her to Oshkosh in 2017 for my son's 20th birthday and he's gotten his private, instrument and commercial ratings in that bird and is about to get his CFI soon. Insurance and tie down fees aren't that bad. $850 per year and $110 per month is what I pay. We have no loan payment as I paid cash for the aircraft. We are finally getting around to replacing our outdated instruments with dual G5's, an autopilot and a complete panel overhaul in February. No more vacuum pump and plumbing. We fly a lot of IFR out of Denver when we can, so the upgraded equipment will be a plus. We already equipped with ADS-B back in May, so we are set there. One thing I have learned is to put away cash in an operations account for the aircraft. Every two weeks, I drop $500 into the account no matter what. It helps with the expenses. Great story. Good luck, fly safe and fly often!

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

That is awesome! Thanks for watching!

120 or 130 speed? remember that is way better than most of us doing 55 to 65 in a good day, with good traffic on the highway...je, je. Thanks for the great videos and info. Saludos !!!

Great!

I’ve never owned a boat honestly but I do own an airplane. I’m not sold on the idea that they’re comparable in costs. I don’t believe there are costly annuals and various other expensive add ons i own a 1970 pa28 180 with nearly identical avionics upgrades so i can appreciate your position, however I believe its all relative. Where it ends usually depends on where it starts, bottom line, be prepared to spend a good deal of time and money.

@meliudaj

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair he did say a 35-40 ft boat. And at that size you should be looking at 2+ motors and in my case over 1000hp, and mine is only 32'... so in that "world" of boats he is close. Also while there are no Annuals on a boat, if you run off shore with it, you don't just run it till it breaks either... so maintenance can add up for sure.

🤟🏼 Yes! Love it!

Ever consider building one? They have planes that burn 7.5 g/hr and go 145 knots. That’s my plan and I’m 53!

Yeah baby - Whitted field. I fly in and out of there all the time. I live in Delray Beach and it used to take 4 hours to make the drive across the 70. Now I fly the 172 across in 1.2. I'll 120mph any day in the 172. Call me when you want to sell the Cardinal!.

I just pulled my Cardinal off the market. I love the Cardinal. The first year is always HORRIBLE. You have to fix everything that the previous owner didn't and the annual is a huge hit. Maybe I'll see you around Whitted sometime.

@smorrow5

4 жыл бұрын

I agree $100%, bought a Cessna 175, previous owner put a lot of money into the plane 20 years ago but hadn't been flying much for several years. The plane was in excellent shape but as I started flying it a lot, I had many bugs to fix, but I wouldn't trade the experience for anything. I'm 63 and finally learning to fly.....my own plane.

@travisminneapolis

4 жыл бұрын

Why were you selling it?

@dvsmotions

4 жыл бұрын

Just don't fly enough to justify single owner. But I was told to hold on to it and I love the plane. Just a little slow.

Great vid As I consider plane ownership after I complete my training, your thoughts on my cost estimates if I purchase a cardinal: When I factor estimates for insurance, maintenance, repairs, hangar, a few dollars set aside for overhaul, no financing cost, I come up with an estimated hourly cost of $95 assuming 145 hour per year profile. I understand there may be other variables Am I close based on the cost you’ve experienced??

Great job and excellent vid!!!...You're an inspiration to the daunting task of pulling everything together. I took the leap of purchasing a plane and have not looked back. Hobbies have taken a back seat to building the safest IFR 172N I can. I like your approach (pun intended) on the "Why put money into it, you'll never get that back". Like you I'm not building on my platform for sale later. My focus is on a safe plane that will do what I need it to do. I'm going to shamelessly steal that thought from you...lol.

Heeeey, I’m in St Pete, don’t live to far from the airport downtown! I’m we’re you started, if you ever have room, I’d fly with you anytime + I have some questions, thanks for sharing!

His friend laughed when he suggested he would catch up to the Lear jet 😂

I tend to think that obtaining PPLA license is more like a health care issue. :) flying needs more concentration and overall sharpness of mind compared to other activities what you can master after age of 50...

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

VERY INTERESTING ... VERY MOTIVATING ... INDEED BY ALL MEANS & DEEDS ...

35-40 ft power boat??? Those are insanely expensive to own and operate which is why I do not see that size often.

Great to watch the video. I am 55 and have been flying weekly to attain my PPL. I have a great instructor and am planning on continuing on to IFR training also. But like everyone else I am positive I will be buying my own plane. Have been leaning towards a 172 but would like a little more load carrying capacity. Can anyone give me any suggestions? I seriously need to stay with a 2 door type airplane as I will be taking older passengers and it is too difficult to get in and out of. Please letme know your thoughts and suggestions.

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

Bikerdave1964 Well Dave on 172 is probably the safest bet because there is a lot of them for sale and everyone knows how to work on them and you can get them for a good price. Plus I’m sure you’ve been training in 172 as well so I would go ahead and stick with that and after a few hundred hours of pilot time you can consider upgrading to something like a Saratoga a Cherokee six or a piper Malibu - of course you could always upgrade to those now!!! 😆😆😆😆

Only one thing better than owning an airplane...having a friend who owns one.

hi there -thanks for all of the videos....can you let us know what the upgrades cost?

@Over50andLearningToFly

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Most of the costs are included in the videos do you have anything specific in mind that you’d like to know how much it cost?

@mikeearls126

2 жыл бұрын

@@Over50andLearningToFly nope - im good....I just asked too quickly - you answered the question - $25k for the avionics improvements

I thought the presentation was excellent. I always liked the Cardinal. It looked like a flap dump on go-around but I'm not sure, could be mistaken.

Great vid but your comparisons re: costs were not accurate. You should’ve compared to the cost of hire as opposed to ownership also taking into account your resale value.

I'm 56 years old and did my cross country flights, passed my written exam but never got my pilots certificate, as life took me in a different direction 36 years ago. I now have three sons on their mid 20's that are very interested in learning to fly. I think this is a great opportunity to make my dream a reality and I'm looking to by a plane. What airplanes do you recommend to get your private, Instrument and Commercial license? Thanks for your advice. By the way I have a budget of 100k. Is it possible?

@Over50andLearningToFly

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely start looking for Airplanes on Trade-A-Plane or controller.com and start scouring all the other KZreadrs out there putting out great contact. You can definitely buy a great plane for $100,000 I bought my plane for under 40 and then I upgraded it as I went along that’s one road you can take I just decided to do that so I completely know my airplane and I’m comfortable with an older airplane but with all newer electronics. The newer electronics in the avionics is what you want the GNC 355 saved my life more times than I can remember and I’ve only had it for a couple of years and that was the best $6000 I ever spent. So my advice to you is put the money in avionics ! Get a good plane you can grow into and get about 100 hours 150 hours in between your private pilots license in your instrument rating. But go ahead and make sure to get that instrument rating it’ll make you an awesome pilot. Thanks for watching!

You need to upgrade to an RG. Let me know when you're ready to sell!

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

Do you have an RG?

Most of us don't own a 35-40' power boat. So, please be considerate and compare it to something most can relate to... such as the operating cost of owning a breeding herd of Western Bolivian Alpacas in the mountains of Machu Picchu

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

I can’t really relate to that .... but I would love to try... not knowing what a breeding heard of Western Boulevard and alpacas costs I would say it’s about a herd’s worth .... 😆😆😆

@operationcwaI789789

4 жыл бұрын

@@Over50andLearningToFly LOL Thanks! :-D . .... PS: can you tell the story/upload the video behind the laugh at 0:55 ?

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

operationcwaI789789 can’t remember ! Too old!

Man , I'm 45 and I'm all in to getting my ppl. Traffic making me drained

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

Then do it!!!! Go Go Go!

@greenlightning6971

4 жыл бұрын

@@Over50andLearningToFly well sure I will. I can say that I have similar mindset like yours regarding economic aspect of flying. I don't care about financial aspect. When you look how big are pricing on new cars and they still can't go 150 mph for 2-3 hours straight. For me air is only solution. And you don't have to worry so much about other guy crossing in to your lane. If we talk economics,well 20-30 years old plane still holds value. Not to mention newer ones. And majority is well maintained. So for me there's no logic when people say that piloting is expensive. Audi,BMW,Mercedes costs new from 100K and up ,in a year or two they hold half of that. So I'm aiming for Cessna or something in that range. I'm glad that I found you channel, subscribed. ✌️✌️👍👍🛩️🛩️

I’m 55 and starting ground school. If I hadn’t been raising kids for the last 36 years I might have done this sooner. Everything I do is financially driven. This is going to take a while but commercial is my goal.

@Over50andLearningToFly

3 жыл бұрын

It’s totally doable! Just treat it like a job I actually took three weeks off of work to do my instrument rating and then I took another couple of weeks off of work the following year to do my commercial. And that was the best way to do it. Now I’ve got my instrument and commercial and my seaplane and I can’t tell you how good it feels. Thanks for watching!

Aircraft (airplane) ownership is "Pricy" on the ground but " Priceless" in the air.

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely!!!! Thanks for watching!

I just found this video. I live in St Petersburg, FL & I want to learn to fly. I want to buy the plane. I just have to select/find one.

@Over50andLearningToFly

3 жыл бұрын

Look at trade a plane .com - lots of good deals out there !

If you had the option, would you have bought this or any aircraft for your intial training? Knowing what you now know, and before you did your upgrades?

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

Mark Sill yes - I would have bought this to do my training in - it would have saved me about 1500 in my private’s -

In this video, one of your landing, you removed all flaps during short final, and seems to me you continue descending. Why was that? Then in another landing during short final (very close to the ground and runway threshold), you add flaps, why was that? I am confused.

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

Down with Reactionaries it was a touch and go without the touch 😆... I just went around - added full Power - then flaps up - we were doing some kind of practice emergency maneuvers- I can’t remember - good eye though! Thanks for watching !!!!

I have never owned a 35' power boat. Really, please let us have a list of all of the costs. Fuel, maintenance, hanger space and hours per month flown.

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

Extremerecluse Fallows I pretty much put them all down here and it doesn’t really get any bigger than that. The thing is if you write down all the costs and go through this as an exercise you’re going to scare yourself out of the airplane purchase. Imagine it this way is that when you’re thinking about buying a house or buying a car or any purchase above $50,000 if you were to break it down to an hourly cost you would never make that purchase. You really can’t over analyze this so I was pretty clear in this video but if you go back to another video that I have titled what does it cost to own an airplane more costs are laid out in that. Thanks for watching and go ahead and buy an airplane!!

Autopilot? For IFR its a must

Hey Ted, great episode. I'm over 60 and getting back into flying in the spring. I have over 250 hours but nothing in the last 37 years! I intend to get my Instrument, Comm, and CFI. I want to something different after I retire from IT. Question: Do you think you have saved money it your training and flying because you own your Cardinal? I have time in both the FG and RG 177 and that is what I will be looking for. I have an instructor, our Daughter-in-love. She is a CFII, MEI. Scheduling will be the hard part. She flys for a major airline and just moved from the 747 into the right seat of a 737. So she is gone a lot. Anyway, keep the episodes coming! Thanks Craig

@williamfahey4092

4 жыл бұрын

Craig. Interesting read. I’m 2 years younger than you and just went through what you described in 2019. Returned to flying after a 35 year break. Working on instrument now and want to go through CFI. Also in IT. Currently have a C172 and it is way cheaper as an owner vs renting. I have several hours (and my only emergency landing) in a Cardinal. Love that plane but am wanting something faster like a Mooney.

How do you pay for it? Do you use a escrow account etc? I see a lot of videos on how much but nothing on how to set things up.

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

John Thompson You just make it an ordinary purchase like you would use car or a boat you don’t have to set anything up you just pay for it like you would any other item

Wish I stayed in it. It just got to $$$ halfway into my instrument and I lost interest due to being at a large for profit (in my mind) flight school where the cfi's were more concerned about their flight time and future airline careers to focus on truly teaching. I got taken on s $30k ride total for my ppl and half way through my IFR. Got the PPL at 52 hrs, less than national average of 68-74 hrs. The school was just far to accelerated for me. PPL to CFI in 7 months, I am like, nope!!! I was not an A student in school but a C+ student with some B's thrown in and some D's. I went through 5 instructors. I'd love to finish what I started. It pains me deeply inside and miss flying with a passion, to the point of tears.

Oh you fly into Albert Whitted Airport. Just before the new year I met a high school friend there and had a burger and took a ride in the Travel Air tha flies out of that airport. How long does it usually take you to fly to DC win that plane?

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

Jesse Dennerlein about 7/8 hours - Are usually split it up into two days just do it over the weekend and it’s less stressful that way

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@jdennerlein

4 жыл бұрын

@@Over50andLearningToFly OK. Cool. My son lives in Knoxville, TN so I've been thinking of getting a plane to fly myself up there. Good to know what it really takes.

Kudos for the detailed cost information, this reduces the uncertainty for would-be owners. But it's an important underlying assumption that you have the money already and there is no other alternative spending that money on more meaningful things, so you have only 2 choices: invest or not. While this is perfectly OK for delivering your motivational message, the total picture, in reality, always includes the opportunity costs as well - what do I lose by spending the money on aviation? Will I miss a business investment opportunity? Will I have to provide lower quality education to my kids? Will I disappoint my wife by denying her from long-time favorite holiday destinations? I think this is a homework people have to think through before making a decision.

Do you think is worth to have a Garmin 355 GPS when you can have the same thing with Foreflight and Ipad? Or is it beacause is connected to your Autopilot?

@Over50andLearningToFly

3 жыл бұрын

Yes - you need the Garmin to do IFR approaches - also I have had my iPad fail multiple times due to heat or losing battery power - the Garmin 355 was the best money I ever spent ! I strongly encourage people to get one ! Thanks for watching!

@pedroarraztoa2789

3 жыл бұрын

@@Over50andLearningToFly Thanks for the info. I am 45, had my licence when I was 25 but stop flying. Thinking of returning, and maybe, on my own airplane.

First, thanks for sharing info on the upgrade. I am getting ready to do upgrades and installation costs are always the unknown. Second, in my opinion you are wrong in the cost comparison with the boat. I feel the boat size could probably be much smaller, and still be equal to the cost of airplane ownership. B-O-A-T: Bust Out Another Thousand. After reading the comments I wanted to respond to almost everyone. Not in a negative fashion, but giving some my experience in airplane ownership. To much time, so maybe they will come back and check other comments. The last item I will put on here is "Upgrading to another airplane. Look very carefully at the numbers. Pick a few higher performance planes and run the numbers compared to yours. Be realistic with those numbers using the route between St. Pete and DC with conditions you have experienced. It might be a good move, or the actual arrival time with winds you have encountered might make the higher performance plane that advantageous. Unless you go the Cirrus route with de-ice, you could be owning a more expensive to buy and upkeep airplane that only gets you there a couple of hours quicker. After owning a twin and a faster retract plane, I made some decisions on what I wanted out of airplane. The extra cost of maintenance, upkeep, and chances of a gear up steered me to down and welded as my choice in an airplane. I fly a Navajo for work. Every time you select gear down there is the possibility it won't. My most recent purchase? A 1974 Cherokee 235 Pathfinder. Reasoning? Lycomings are less expensive to work on, can carry a load, 84 gallons of fuel, and if needed it will run on autofuel. Even if I don't use autofuel the option is available. This option is available for most 182's as well. Not for parts, but by design the Continentals (which I fly for work also) take longer to remove cylinders because of the configuration. On some you have Intake, exhaust, push rod tubes all underneath the cylinder, so more difficult getting to nuts and bolts. Another item I wouldn't have is a turbo charger. Unless you are going above 15,000' regularly, they create more heat and maintenance than they are worth. Strictly my opinion, but it is based on flying these types of planes on a daily basis for work. If you decide to move to a retract, focus more on the emergency gear extension procedures than any other aspect of the airplane. Yes they all have a way to extend it, but what does it take to extend, and if there is a hydraulic leak that caused the initial failure is that going to prevent you using the hand pump type scenario. With you routinely flying the same route does change some of the thinking, but wanted to share some of what I have done over the last 38 years of airplane ownership. Great video. Safe flying.

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

Blimp Commander Thanks for your comments! And thanks for watching. Yes you are correct in your statement. We’ll see, after all it’s day by day aircraft ownership. 😆

So next time i go shopping i ask how much it is in powerboats? That was not really helpful for someone who does not know how much it is to have a powerboat.

@Over50andLearningToFly

4 жыл бұрын

The dollar figures are at the end of the program - exactly how much it costs .... thanks for. Watching!