I can relate Jason. I started trad archery about two years ago shooting instinctive only. My progression with practice went very well, then I tried gap shooting. Ugh, what a mistake that was. I did as much research on gap shooting as I could find but it nothing helped. I tried gap for a month with terrible results. I was a mess for a while but I'm back shooting instinctive. I'm having fun again and things seem so much more comfortable and natural. Thanks so much for your videos. I've learned many things from you. Much appreciated!

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Glad your shooting is back on point and you got it all sorted. nothing feels worse that not being in control of your shooting.

I want to THANK YOU Jason! this vid motivated me to work on my release(I have a mild pluck) but then I focused on keeping my bow arm straight and BOY my groups not only tightened up but I am consistantly drilling the spot! Thanks again for all you do, also your, vid, R U Good enough, was a huge eye opener and is the reason I'm taking my recurve out this season!

@SamkoTradBow

2 ай бұрын

Love hearing this! gonna be an amazing deer season for you this year!

I’m 100% with you Jason. Recently I tried a bunch of different shooting styles. Some gave me confidence but, killed my shoulder, some were horrible. I’ve since gone back to my “normal“ draw weight 60# and back to my original style and can’t be happier. Great video

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Yep less complicated simple and easy is always best. Otherwise we get stuck in our minds and all the bs. Glad your shooting well and loving it.

As a new archer this vid has been a great eye opener. I’m just starting off and so I’m working through different techniques to see what works best with me but though all that I just think too much on my form and forget to lock onto to the target. I will now try what I’ve learned in this vid and hopefully it’ll improve my archery.

@SamkoTradBow

7 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. L9ts of great technics out there and it's worth trying it all to find what's best for you. Then throw the rest out and develop your own style that fits you best.

Me too. All you said. I messed with gap for 2 days. It was a mess. I am not as tight with my groups as you are, but I'm working on it. Thanks Jason good video.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. Gap is fantastic for many. For me it just diverts my attention. I need all my focus on the spot. Happy to hear you are shooting well! Shooting an arrow is an addiction. I went hog hunting today and brought my 4570 rifle just to change it up. I missed stump shooting my way back to the truck. Love shooting my bow any chance I can.

Just watched this video and you're an amazing archer and an amazing teacher! I did notice that when you shot "for real" your elbow moved backwards on release, indicating imho that you pull through perfectly. You just do it without any flair or fancy stuff! So keep doing you and forget about the people thinking they know better than you. Your results speaks clearly what is working for you. 👍

@SamkoTradBow

9 ай бұрын

Thanks. Great observation! Glad you enjoyed it

I have experienced every thing you discussed in this video. And you are 100% correct. Is my back tension right, is my bow arm bent right am I pulling through the shot. Well I had to stop listening to all the BS in my head, and just do what feels right and shoot. Thanks for sharing this. All new and old shooters should watch this. Like Howard Hill said, ask yourself are you a target archer or a hunter. Its hard to be both at the same time for some people, so choose. I chose to be a hunter. Thanks and God bless

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

very well said and agree 100%

Nice to hear someone keeping it simple. I started shooting recurve 50 years ago. Long before all these techniques, styles, etc were a thing. I still shoot game with the same Bear recurve. No frills. Great video!

@SamkoTradBow

4 ай бұрын

Yep no reason to over complicate a stick and a string.

Great video, just an all around great video. One thing I will add, I started off shooting lighter bows at the beginning of my journey, as you often hear start light to learn. I learned on a 45 pound longbow, well, once I felt dailed in a year or so later I started hunting and shooting only mid 50s... I never went back to the lighter bow because I thought it would be back tracking... Recently I went to the light bow with a more serious nature, realized I am much, much more accurate with lighter bow AFTER learning how to get off the string clean.... I'm a few weeks into shooting my little 45 and I may just stick with it, and not move up again...heavy high foc slim micro arrows we have now, no reason to shoot higher weight IF you don't wanna but also want to kill.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Agree 100% you do not need the heavier bow! the arrows do all the work.

"Too many minds" Nobutada Last Samurai; sums this up perfectly. Keep em coming Jason!

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 loved that movie and use that line all the time. Including a bunch of times on a podcast I have coming soon on this topic

I had the same issue only with a shotgun and duck hunting. I was very good and then I read all these articles on leading the bird etc. Screwed me up for years. A lot better now. Your brain works way better than you think and will figure it out with whatever you do. I guarantee it!

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

yep pick a spot and let your mind and body work out the math.

100%. Tried it all. For me, solid bow arm, concentrate on a spot.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

yep people want to over complicate it. concentration on the spot and consistant shooting wins for me.

I started six months ago. My right arm is much bigger than my left arm now. My tendons under and above my lower arm look like cables. I did not expect that. I wish it was symmetrical. Got laid up by back and fore arm pain really bad earlier on. I'm now using a 1968 56" grizzly that I bought from an 84 year old I know for 150.00. It's a 50# bow. The orange bag had a quarter inch of cement colored dust on it. When I pulled the bow out of the bag, it spoke to me. It looks brand new. I started with a 45#' Sanlida which is a pretty good set up for the money. I could barely pull it back halfway for over a month. Now it feels like nothing to pull the Sanlida.

@SamkoTradBow

3 ай бұрын

Welcome to traditional archery! And congrats on your amazing new grizzly! You are gonna love shooting it.

I have tried it all and gap shooting screws you up so bad I wish I never did it I almost quit shooting because of it now I have worked on my straight arm and now I burn a hole in the target your videos are hands down the best it’s straight up no bull 💩 and I can’t wait till hunting season here in Pennsylvania great stuff brother

@SamkoTradBow

2 ай бұрын

Same here. Gap almost wrecked me.

I find that an internal smile of confidence helps accuracy. I deploy it moment before the shot. I also find follow through distorts my accuracy and just release and hold hand position. I find left hand grip and nock height to be very important for accuracy. Also, keeping arrows clean, numbering them and taking note of the best performance arrows. I pulled my three best and put broadheads on for Turkey season. My limit is 15 yards. I feel confident at 10-13. Solid groups of 1.5" or less and the occasional flyer.

@SamkoTradBow

3 ай бұрын

Outstanding. And love that you are keeping your shots close! Thats what bowhunting is all about.

Have improved 100 percent since your cold shot video. Work midnights. Get out of truck grab bow in garadge shoot one shot. Live with it . Practice in evening. 3 under point on and just shoot. Solid anchor fletch touches nose done. Yes dump the B.S. GREAT Information today.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. The cold shot practice is a huge help

" Ldo not miss, I do not miss, I am a kIller " LOL

@SamkoTradBow

6 ай бұрын

😂😂

Amen! This is exactly me . Used to gap an string walk an do the proper form otherwise I’m going to destroy my shoulder an let the target go an all the mental stuff. An it deadset done my head in. After seeing the old John shulz video an giving it a try it blew my mind. Every archery coach or guru said that’s a terrible way to shoot ,but I’ve never smashed so many arrows from tight grouping . So why do they keep pushing people down the best method or whatever it’s called path?

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

agree 100% the old phrase "everyone wants to reinvent the wheel" comes to mind.

Spot on Jason, I have the exact same release if I try any other method I spray arrows and ingrain a fault in my form. Think about it,the jump shot in basket ball, the golf swing, there are certain basics you must perform but you do it in a way that your body is comfortable.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Agree 100%!

That's good shooting!!!! Back to the basics that works for you!! I have to tell myself" shoot my Trad bow like a compound". Arm solid to the target, solid anchor and small amount push pull and let the shot break naturally... Keep that bow arm solid to the target don't let it move off target before and after the shot.. thanks for sharing

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

That's the key. Find what works best for you and forget the rest. Whatever method or system you come up with is best for you

You just did a video about what I was thinking a lot lately. 1. The release and 2. that my arrow or arrowhead moves a little bit forward before I release it. (but I only see this if I record myself) I changed my anchor recently and watched a lot of other archers and traditional WA archers stuff etc. and saw a lot of things I didn't do or that my technique wasn't quite as perfect as compared to some french archer that I watched on YT. But it is just like you said - if I don't concentrate too much on what I do or not do and just focus on the target and shoot, it works pretty well.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Yep my relesase does the same thing. creeps forward at the shot. but when I do that i hit stuff. when I try to not do that I loose focus and screw up.

@MarshallStrider

Жыл бұрын

@@SamkoTradBow Exactly. Only a little bit, but it does. But as you are saying, if I don't focus on that or try to have that pull-trough release the hits are still there and working. Quite interesting though. So there is no real "right" or "wrong", at least if you are comfortable with the shooting and the hits, we probably should keep it this way. Good to know that I'm not alone with that haha. Thank you anyway, shoot straight.

Thanks for the info. I ordered a bow from Steve (Northern Mist) yesterday based off you recommendations. I’m looking forward to learning to shoot an ASL.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

you will love it.

Archery must feel natural I tried and train every possible technique but the best results every time when I shooting my own way like what you're doing

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Yep its good to try it all and pick what parts work best for you

Great stuff man! I personally had issues with my focus on target.. Watching your videos has helped me immensely and also reminding me the things I should be focusing on.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

glad it was helpful.

Your 100% correct. I pretty much fixed it by following the arrow to the spot, don't move anything, focus on spot, follow arrow to spot.

@SamkoTradBow

11 ай бұрын

That's a great way to explain one focus on follow thru

Great video and thanks for your honesty. It's interesting to know that even super experienced archers like you still struggle with things from time to time. We're all just human, eh. This is my 3rd year of trad archery and my first season hunting and I'm still figuring out what is best for me under different real-world conditions. I agree that going with what your body feels natural is the best way. If it was easy, it wouldn't be nearly as rewarding when it all comes together.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

You nailed it. FIND what works best for you and practice it and use it.

I'm the same way. When I take a shot everything is in autopilot. All I do is focus on a spot and repetition and practice all comes naturally. When you start going through a checklist at full draw thinking about form and release....you have confidence problems and boy does that suck. I had it a few years ago from the same thing. Tinkering with my form based on what I was hearing on KZread. I was shooting 6 inches left no matter what I did. I had to stop shooting for a few months to forget about the bad habits I had incorporated and had become automatic. Luckily I overcame it. But I feel you, nothing sucks more than not being totally confident in your shooting.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

agree 100% the last month has been brutal and the lack of confidence overwhelming.

Damn Bro, hit the nail on the head! I agree, shoot what's comfortable for you. There is NO right or wrong way if you're hitting the target. Been shooting trad my whole life, didn't make the change when wheel bows came out. I figured, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Not knocking anything, if it works.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Each shooter has to FIND what works best for them and then let the bow eat. pick a spot and the mind and body can work out the math while the shooter focuses on focusing.

Spot on! The new thing is people trying to make it more complicated then it is, look at target and shoot the bow. If you want to treat it like a compound with all this gap shooting walking the string go back to compound. The whole reason you do traditional is for the simplicity of it, not to where ur useing yardage again. Shoot ur trad bow enough and it's just a matter of look, pick a hair and release. Never understood why people do all those steps.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Very well said and I agree. I do believe gap helps alot of people. But not me..lol

Always enjoy your info have been shooting trad for 58 years but still always more to learn maybe see you in OK next season again like to do a javelina hunt in2023 if you have any information on ranches in Texas, give me a heads up.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Javelina is an amazing hunt. I did it 6 years in a row out of Marfa TX. Hunted with outfitter Wayne wemers. He no longer does it but there were othe ranches in the area. I would check it out. Was affordable and incredible

Great vid shoot what’s comfortable to YOU. Also you basically robinhooded those last few arrows. NICELY DONE 🤙🏼👊🏼🏹

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

you nailed it. What works best for YOU.

Thanks, Jason U are spot on with just what I have literally been going through. Great Video Now all I have to do is what ur Telling me. THANK YOU AGAIN BROTHER.

@SamkoTradBow

7 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Yep, do what works best for you.

Move around at different yardages and do that, I’ve found that really works!

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Agree 100. It's important to vary distances

Beautiful info thank you so much

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

I go through the same thing! I am constantly working on the release. I don't get the " just relax your fingers " I try but truthfully I just try to forget that and just concentrate on the spot.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

same here. as soon as I focus on antything but the spot I want to hit my shooting suffers.

This helped and made a big difference for me. Thanks. I hunt from the ground in tight cover with a 56” grizzly bear recurve. Short bow for tight spots so release stability for accuracy so important.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Hey Jason this is the first video of yours I’ve watched and boy can I relate! The way I taught myself to shoot over the last eight or nine years unfortunately involves a substantial creep upon release but like yourself every time I try and focus and over complicate things my groups get so much bigger! 🤣 great video dude

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it and welcome to the channel

Awesome video 👍🏻

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

I feel so much better now. Totally agree but thought I was wrong the whole time. Great video.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

There is no wrong in archery. Or rules. Find what works best for you

I do both, there’s no question in my mind that at close range, before your arrow starts dropping rapidly, instinctive shooting allows you to get off a MUCH quicker shot which can make the difference between success and failure, however ,just for me, if I have the time I find aiming to be more accurate especially at longer distances

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

That's what's most important. You found what works best for you

Great video my friend... I agree with you. I am a hunter, I do shoot gap, but I have that arrow way up and I am basically looking right down that shaft. My point on is like 12 yards, which is perfect for hunting. Arrow drops really quick is the only downfall, 10 inches at 20 yards. 20 yards would be my max shooting at deer and thats an aim at the top of the back shot. But for me it is what I switched to and I dont even think about my anchor anymore, its all about the same sight picture... but man, it is extremely accurate at close range. Im not sure why more hunters dont do this?? Thanks, Steve

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

That's a great way to shoot and close shot is all that matters to me!

I shoot just like you with recurve. I release quicker though. I know when I release it was a good or bad shot before it gets anywhere near the target. Edit: not as good YET.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Yep thats a love/hate feeling. When you release the string and instantly know what's gonna happen🤣

Dropping my bow arm and hitting left (right handed shooter) is something I have to fight. It affects my point of impact most with my ASL as it’s less forgiving of such things compared to my recurves (shelf cut closer to center on my recurve).

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

I used to do that alot too as I would peak to see where the arrow hits or how it flies. I have a podcast coming out and more vides on how I am isolating aspects of my shooting for "form" work that doesnt affect my real shooting sessions. its been working amazing.

U r the yang to jake kaminsky's yin 😂 thats why i follow both of yall. Love the videos.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

😂 glad you are enjoying the videos

Right on Brother I've been shooting traditional archery since 1963 I'm 68 years old still shooting traditional archery I don't even shoot what they say on the right spine arrow I shoot ceder arrows sometimes light sometimes heavy always hitting my Mark I've been shooting so long I know my bows and my arrows Howard Hill in one of his shooting demo's shot spine arrows fron 45 to 80 pound all out of 70 pound long bow hitting his mark at 40 yards perfect group's enough said about all b.s on arrow spine in all your shooting technique is how I've been shooting All my life regardless what the so called experts say keep it simple enjoy this God given blessing on instinctive traditional archery great job God bless

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it and I agree 100%

Great shooting! I shoot the same why with picking the spot. What arrows set up do you have?

@SamkoTradBow

11 ай бұрын

720 grain carbon with 450 grains upfront. 200 grain insert, and a 250 grain razor broadhead.

turners shot IQ He explains how we anticipate recoil. He is primarily dealing with sights and while we instinctive archers don't have them, all of the rest of his system is great for quiting all of the distraction in your head.

@SamkoTradBow

3 ай бұрын

Know many people that have taken and love Joel's course

Question:,Can you recommend a traditional bow or perhaps a price range that I should pay for a decent bow? Use to be traditional hunter decades ago and miss it very much. Would love to see vid on equipment recommendations,cost etc. I attend the PA bow hunter festival yearly and there are many traditional bows for sale but I don’t know what to look for. Can you help?

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Lots of great bows out there in all price ranges. The 150 dollar range has many of the China and Asia bows like the samick sage and black hunter. Up from there you have some of the bears and Martin bows and they are excellent. Then you get into used custom bows for about half to 3/4 the price of new custom bows. Best thing to do is attend those shoots and try some of the bows and find one that you like and can afford. It's hard to find a bad bow today. They are all excellent

@manyfeather2knives423

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! (I’ll stick with American lol)

Man sounds like you speaking directly to me!… Appreciate it!

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Gald you found it helpful.

I learned to finger shoot anchoring under my chin. May not work for everyone but I get a real clean release because my thumb rests on my lower jaw.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Yep the old target style release. dont see it much these days but it sure is a fantastic way to shoot a bow and if it works great for you then it is great for you.

OMG, these things, ALL these things, are my “mystery” shot causers! That is exactly what happens to me, all at once at times. I am a 3 under “point on target” Aimee and can do pretty well. It’s just sometimes I do the dump, plucky thing and sends an arrow in the woods or into my backdrop. It all stems from a “not now signal” from my pea brain then I pluck it cause I know I have to release. What I feel works is a controlled let down and a restart, but I am rarely smart enough to actually do it.. love your stuff my man and you are a sweet shooter! Pretty good shooting, that’s some awesome shooting and a goal of mine!

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

glad you enjoyed it. its important to get teh form and stuff situated but when shooting at a spot you want to hit. the spot should get all the focus in my expereince. and it sure does feel good shooting that way.

I have tight groups. But not all the time. Definitely a focus issue. Was it Byron Ferguson that said aim small, miss small? Good instructional reminder video. 👍

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. Byron has said many things and I listen to all of them!

Great video. Love the philosophy and advice. Aim small miss small lol

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Yep and focus only on the spot is the gamer changer for me

Yep, grip it and rip it 🏹 I tried gap shooting a decade ago to try and "help" my kids zero in. Horrible mistake 😫 Great video

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

i think gap is still the best method for many shooters. but for me it was a huge mistake to even try. wont make that mistake again.

Thank you, brother. You put words to my thoughts. I completely agree.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Gald you enjoyed it.

I’ve been shootn traditional for 31 years. Everyone has their own style of shooting. I got listening to a lot of videos trying to get better and realized I got worse. I went back to what works for me.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Same exact thing here. Wont do that again..lol

Glad ya made it back brotha 😂

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

me too. feels good to be in control again

Jason this was a superb explanation thanks

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

That’s your style Jason, stick with it! Our sport is like a lot of others sometimes we just go through things whether they are mechanical or mental. Pitchers get in slumps, basketball players slump, it’s human nature. I’ve sure had my bad days and weeks hunting with a recurve over the past 33 years. My biggest issue is drawing on deer, I want to slow everything down so they can’t bust me and that throws my rhythm off. So I practice drawing real slow. I think Howard Hill kept his release hand on his face? Thanks for the vid. Pick a spot, don’t let the bow work you push towards the target, release , keep the bow arm there which is following through and it’s gonna go to the spot😊

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Very well said and agree 100 with everything!

Awesome lesson. !!! +1 subscriber

@SamkoTradBow

4 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for subscribing

3 under screwed me up for a long time this past year. I have shot on and off for 20 years and shot instinctively until last year. My range and groups improved. But for some reason 3 under amplified my target panic

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Target panic comes in all forms. And can hit anyone at anytime. It's brutal

I noticed you tilt your bow to one side. If I’m shooting a compound bow can I tilt it or is that a trad bow technique only? Also, what poundage are you shooting? Thx

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Because a longbow has the arrow sitting right on top of my hand turning or canting my bow doesn't effect anything. With a compound your arrow is farther away from your hand Because of the arrow rest and the fact that you are using sights, canting the bow would cause the arrows to impact at a different spot

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

I shoot 57 pounds

@manyfeather2knives423

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I still shoot instinctive, no sights. Miss the traditional bow but lack the tune to practice. Enjoy you vids.

The worst thing I did was watch the popular channel that “pushes” three under, fixed crawl, gap shooting. Totally killed my shooting to the point I didn’t hunt with my longbow for 2 years. A couple of weeks ago finally went back to split finger, no clicker, just focusing on the spot and letting my brain do the rest.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

yep there is a ton of info out there and it can be overwhelming. Im the same. pick a spot and let my mind and body do the math.

Beautiful. Good luck buddy

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

I have always done the same thing with the hand and I am shooting the Split Vison/Instinctive Gap that is the Howard Hill method. I need to use the target/spot and arrow with the gap guess. I have had to do this ever since a kid and took a city summer rec archery program, found out I was hooking the string before release, this was worse then Plucking it was hooking the string so I would continue to draw while doing some type of slow releasing, meaning I did not know when the string was going leave my hands past anchor, a very dangerous unsafe thing to do as the arrow or feathers would hit my face as I let go due to the arrow not releasing right. This was when they tried to get me in a Summer Rec Class to shoot the draw though style I had never done before. I have tried this drawback style release again when getting back into the sport/eventual hunting in 2021 and nope was a no go, I am worse now with a release issue/target panic thing that prevents me from doing the drawback style of release.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

We have all been there. You will bounce back and recover from the panic. takes time and dedication but you will beat it.

A lot of really good advice coming from this channel. Thank you

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Glad you are enjoying it.

That’s funny you say this because I’m doing the same thing right now. I’m wondering if it’s my arrow or my poundage is to heavy and then I have to remember it has to be heavy I’m a hunter not a target shooter. It’s only 70 so it’s not that heavy. I’m trying to pull through. Bending bow arm straight arm. Blah blah blah. And I think I just need to practice and pick a spot

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Yep when you are shooting to hit a target just focus on the target. when you are shooting to work on form like a release just use a bag target at 3 feet and shoot with your eyes closed focusing only on the release. the focus is what matters.

Hello Jason, could you do a video on cross dominance shooting? Im having issues deciding wether to change from right to lefty because of a cross dominance between my draw hand and dominant eye. Whats your opinion as a hunter and instictive shooter on cross dominant shooters? Love the wisdom you pour in the channel

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

I was in that position. I'm left handed and left eye Dom. But always shot a compound right handed. When I got into trad I switched to left hand to match my dominant eye. Best decision I could of made. I can shoot both right and left handed but let is so mich better with my Dom eye

When i first started i had a hard time picking a spot so i was shooting 6 inch circles at 20 and now with my horrible form i can get about 3 inch groups at 35 but i never shoot past 25 on game as for gap i was lucky to get 6 inches at 15 yards haha definitely not my thing but as always i always find your videos both enjoyable and helpful.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

yep gap is great for many shooters that have a better attention span than i do. for me it was a crash course down the wrong road.

@davida.4933

Жыл бұрын

I call b.s. that you can shoot 3" groups at 35 yds. consistently or even frequently. You would be the best trad. shot in the world by far.

@stevedaughton7247

Жыл бұрын

@@davida.4933 yup, I agree, bs...

@Flexhunter308

Жыл бұрын

@@davida.4933 it can be done but not consistently. I’ve shot a few awesome groups at 35 but the next group will be awful lol

You always have good common sense advice, I think a lot of folks get to bogged down in the mechanics and start overthinking.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

agree. we are always trying to be better. but i think there is a cost associated with it that hurts more than it helps.

Shooting reflexively is built in, I love it

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

yep should feel natural

I love listening to you man. You got great style.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

When someone gets into the zone with a longbow they will absolutely stack em in there. Great shooting

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Agree 100% love shooting a longbow

Improvements don't happen overnight. Shooting one way for years and then expecting to change something and see success immediately is unreasonable.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

but going from great shooting to horrible shooting is not a step in the right direction

great advise

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. For me, this has been a huge improvement. Just focusing on the spot I want to hit.

Good video and awesome shooting!

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Brother I just into the game hard a few months ago. I just go out back and do whatever works that day.. I try different things but I just stick with what works that day🤷🏽🤦🏾

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

That works perfect. Especially until you find ypur groove and style

I hear ya ! BTW glad to see another southpaw !

You use a 26" draw...please recommend a bow that is reasonably quick and forgiving

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

You don't get both. Really quick and forgiving is like asking for light weight and strong. Can't have both. Fortunately quick is irrelevant speed means nothing in a bow. Forgiving means everything. A bow style is a very personal choice. In my opinion the most forgiving bow is a straight limb longbow like those made by northernmistlongbows.com. but that type of bow is not for everyone. Best thing you can do is attend a shoot in your area where you can try different bows. Recurves are a good happy medium with speed and shoot ability and any recurve today is a good bow. Samick sage, bear kodiak, black hunter from Amazon, etc.

My release hand pretty much stays where it is too.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Works best for me

I needed this thanks!

@SamkoTradBow

8 ай бұрын

Glad ypu enjoyed it

Too many people are trying to bring what they know about shooting compounds to shooting trad bows. All that stuff sounds good on thrange until a deer is walking towards you, or you have to shoot on one leg and a 3/4 draw because the deer is directly below you. Stay with what got ya’ here.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Agree 100

I agree, pick a spot and shoot, too much thinking takes a way from the instinctability of of it all,great video

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Exactly how I feel

great video!

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

I’ve found trying to improve at archery sucks the fun. Practicing however comes naturally is more enjoyable and inevitably leads to consistency and accuracy. However ‘bad’ your technique is according to modern archery experts!

@SamkoTradBow

2 ай бұрын

agree 100%

What I’ve noticed about Trad Archery it’s almost just like golf. Folks for get the goal, ball in the hole or arrows on target. When you start playing swing or shoot form bad things happen. When you practice practice when you playing or shooting to hit the target shoot at the target.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

excellent example

Shoot stumps beer cans plastic jugs tires anything you walk up on in the woods or in a field no set ranges no known ranges just shoot you'll learn the trajectory of your arrows that's trad archery. The key is shooting lots of shooting at any and every distance. I guarantee after a month of shooting everyday for an hour or 2 you'll be slamming bottle caps at 30 yards without ever thinking about it. If not then get a compound and a range finder there's no shortcuts or magic technique to shooting a stick bow. Put in the effort and you'll reap the rewards, simple as that.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Very well said. I still can't slam bottle caps at 30 yards. But agree with everything you are saying.

Thank you I've had same problem you so right

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video.

Just a great video, thanks.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

I still the good thing about this, is the fact that you were open minded enough to at least try something different and work on form and release, even if you went back to the original way your still ahead knowledge and learned something. Which to me is a gods thing.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Great points! There is some amazing archery instructions out there. But for me it fall in the "can't teach an old dog new tricks" category 😂

You either start with gap shooting. Or never go into gap shooting. One does not simply merge over to gap shooting.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

As i found out the hard way recently.

Well done Jason

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Man, I walked into my local archery shop and tried out a recurve when they asked if I wanted some advice. I shoot similarly to what you've said in the video, I just look, and my body has figured out the rest. I snap shot a very decent grouping and they proceeded to essentially instruct me to shoot target recurve style because it's "better". I just don't care for it and freestyle traditional is something that works for me. I feel like modern precision target archery has somehow become the gold standard for all archery and its rules are imposed onto primitive, traditional, and hunting disciplines. Do primitive or ancient military archers and fletchers care as much as we do about matching arrow spines to each individual bow? Can you imagine target rifle shooters telling self-defence, military, hunting, or re-enactment shooters how to do things? They'll be laughed at and told to stay in their lane. Some archers with this mentality need to check themselves before thinking their way's the only way.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Love this. And fantastic examples.

Howard Hill said... upon release both hands do nothing

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

great advise from a great shooter.

I don't agree with everything you say but i like your videos, thank you for sharing.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with that!

Yeah agree 100% with you on doing what works for you. The basic fundamentals are required alignment, solid bow arm, release etc bur how we achieve it is a personal thing!

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Exactly

I gotta play the devil’s advocate a little as far as gap is concerned with everyone talking about it in the comments.. My system that I push is based off the gap. But I general practice and hunt split vision/gap-stinctive. I do multi step process of shooting because I am prone to target panic and like anything else, you drill it, in the moment you will follow suit. I shoot softball size groups at 40 yards like this and shoot much more accurately than I ever did instinctive. So gap is still a very viable platform to build off of. As for release techniques, Jason I’m with you. I’ve drilled back tension and it’s a difficult thing to master without much discipline. Even Cody Greenwood from TradLab said he has found similar results for him. A static release is a more consistent release for most people. It’s repetitive and fairly clean. The great Paul Shieffer was the same way. Watch Dwayne Martin shoot and you’ll see similar. Great video Jason.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

I still 100% believe gap is the best way for many to shoot. But for me it takes my focus off the target.

@EthanPageHunter

Жыл бұрын

@@SamkoTradBow for sure. I think you went about everything in the video very honestly. I felt compelled more by some of the comments. You’re doing good stuff my friend. Like to get some hunting done together one day 👍🏼

I want to get into long bow hunting. I'm 7'2 and long arms. I need to find the right bow

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Yep you will want a custom made bow to match your long draw length. Lots of amazing bowyers out there build bows that will work great for you.

Hi , I have a big question for you: For Korea traditional bow, Mongolia traditional bow, and Chinese traditional bow, they always curve forward, and they have very good performance. But for western traditional bows, the contact surface on the riser that makes contact with the limb always has a rearward slope, not a forward slope. This will slow down the arrows. Why for western traditional bow risers, the contact surface with the limb doesn't have a forward slope like Asian traditional bow's handle, but a rearward slope ?

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

For forgiveness and accuracy under poor conditions. Less bow torque is introduced to the bow with a deflex riser. Definitely slower but more stable and forgiving of errors.

@matthewyu3531

Жыл бұрын

@@SamkoTradBow Thank you for your prompt response. You are a very professional hunter, could you kindly tell me, from your experience, do you find deflex riser design REALLY has better forgiveness and accuracy ? (Your words are very important to me because I try to make a traditional bow for myself. There are two options: reflex riser + reflex limbs, or deflex riser + super-recerve limbs. The first option is easier to build, but if deflex riser REALLY has better forgiveness and accuracy, I will choose the second opinion) Thank you very much.

@matthewyu3531

Жыл бұрын

@@SamkoTradBow From your experience, do you find reflex deflex longbow REALLY has better forgiveness and accuracy than reflex only longbow? I guess it's why people choose reflex deflex longbow instead of reflex only longbow.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewyu3531 never shot a asian or horse bow. So no way to know. but I bet there is a big difference. there is a difference even from my rd bow to my straight limb bows.

@matthewyu3531

Жыл бұрын

@@SamkoTradBow Thank you.

I'm listening when I see that kind of shooting.

@SamkoTradBow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. the difference for me was noticable instantly on both sides of the messing around. I was happy with my shooting before I started messing around, hated it during the messing around process of trying new stuff. and then loved my shooting again when I said forget it all and went back to just picking a spot.