when the engines started ticking and seizing hyundai made their sales event "time is ticking, seize the moment" to hide google results. this dct issue is going to be big

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

This made me lol

@pppcorn

Жыл бұрын

@Phillip Banes 2015 Hyundai Seize the Moment Sales Event “Time Is Ticking” .... it goes way further than that btw

@2strokeFORever

Жыл бұрын

Wow genius on Hyundai's end

@justinjacobs5777

Жыл бұрын

Wow , your likely spot on .. good catch !

@philipschrantz8402

Жыл бұрын

Just as I was starting to think that maybe Hyundai was getting its act together, this stuff started showing up. Hyundai owner organizations need to start communicating with NHTSA and the CPSC. ..

Had terrible Hyundai service at one dealer. Took it to another dealer 30 mins away and was blown away how great it was. Your Mileage May Vary!

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Bingo! I hope the dealership close by will be a better experience.

The thing is they want you to think they have a great warranty....they really don't.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what it’s starting to sound like.

@neverendingmods

Жыл бұрын

@@n-power-automotive starting to sound like? They've been doing it for over 15 years.

It's called small claims court and will cost somewhere around $50.00 to file against the company. They have to be represented by a attorney licensed in that state while you can appear yourself. These companies will settle before it goes to court because hiring a local lawyer is expensive. I haven't done this often but the three times I have it was settled before the court date. You have to wonder if the mechanic is telling the truth about talking to a lawyer buddy. If he did his lawyer buddy wasn't much of a lawyer.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Yeah there’s been some questionable info in his part, so I tend not to think we got the full story.

My current car is a 10 years old Elantra, I will never buying another Hyundai ever again, you can bet my next vehicle will be Camry or Civic Si.

@Coffeedad

Жыл бұрын

Why are you having warranty issues also?

Like 4 years ago my cousin bought a new Sonata the The engine blew out he is a heavy duty mechanic was pissed . He said he bought the cars due to the warranty. After fighting with back and forth for a few weeks they fixed the car. He paid a large part of the balance to the bank and sold the to carmax . He drives a Acura now . Good luck out there everyone !

In regards to the exhaust guy, that's an easy win for him if he fights it. They conducted the testing completely wrong (tested in N mode and measured the decibel peaks from the crackles - they're supposed to measure the sound in the default mode at a steady RPM). The DCT recalls and warranty issues are scaring me - and I am currently in the process of waiting for an allotment to come it. The 10/100 warranty and DCT trans were the biggest selling points for me - and both of those seem to be a big problem. Not good.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

I agree it should be easy for the Cali guy to get it cleared, but you know how red tape is especially when it comes to the state and emissions. From what I understand they refuse to retest it until Hyundai says they fixed the problem, but they won’t because it’s stock. Vicious circle. And I completely agree on the warranty and DCT being the biggest selling points. I too would list those as mine. I’m really hoping they follow through with any warranty issues any of us have. Thanks for the comment!

That guy is a Hyundai tech and he still bought a Hyundai??? He really stepped on it....

@lvirag8401

Жыл бұрын

ikr lol

@chaseo4557

Жыл бұрын

Get cheaper car that way

It is unfortunate but then again nobody else with a stock car has come across this issue as far as I know.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s starting to make me wonder how truthful he was being.

@vjdfl5

Жыл бұрын

@@n-power-automotive yeah, I don’t care too. much about defending Hyundai but I’m pretty sure he got denied for modding the car. He posted about it multiple times before the issue. I didn’t personally go back and look but other members called him out for deleting previous posts about his mods after the fact.

@xxtoptankxx6873

Жыл бұрын

Have a 21 DCT VN at 18500 miles. No issues here. I do have a oil catch can. Other than that even the tires and wheels are stock. I have had Hyundai do all my oil changes at 3k intervals and with the right oil weight. I do have some suspicion but we shall see. Edit: This was bought new at 400 miles.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

@@xxtoptankxx6873 what brand oil catch can do you have? I really need to get one but I can’t decide which one.

I have a 2018 Hyundai Elantra GT base model. The engine has blown at 82,000 miles. Im the original owner. Has had oil changed regularly. Been at the dealer for 2 weeks now waiting for the claim to be approved. 100,000 power warranty should be honored. I dont think I ever buy a hyundai again.

Love the Elantra N aswell, its unfortunate all the current woes, be it this situation, dct failures, them not getting you the correct oil in your case. I'll have to wait a couple years to see how all this plays out.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

I don’t blame you. Too late for me though lol. Although there is a DCT recall, it only affects a small number of Elantra N’s built within a certain timeframe. Mine has been flawless in the 5k miles I’ve had it. It’s a really good transmission.

@Beezy_Builds

Жыл бұрын

@@n-power-automotive knowing all you know now, would you buy one again, if you were washed clean of this one?

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

@@Beezy_Builds 100% I would. It’s an awesome car.

@LordHolley

Жыл бұрын

@@Beezy_Builds I would have no hesitation buying another one. I really enjoy the car and knock on wood I've had no real issues.

If the ecm has recorded 8300 rpm, the engine was at 8300 rpm. Sounds to me like this guy probably flashed his system to tune it, messed things up and attempted to revert to original. Once he realized evidence of his fuckery was found he tried to blame the trans issue. Claimed the car was stalling so he gased it more. An excuse for high reving but OEM tune is limited so that dog didn't hunt. Seems like a legit denial to me.

@trevorharley4475

Жыл бұрын

Makes sense, however as a former and still certified Hyundai tech. If you are tuning the car you are remapping the entire ecu. If you revert it back to stock it’s not going to remember anything from the former tune since you’ve erased it and reverted it back to factory. Maybe it has a failsafe or some sort of memory feature in there I don’t know I left Hyundai when the N line started for this reason. High performance cars with an endless warranty… What could go wrong? Between the ever dropping labor times for warranty repair and the ever increasing complexity of the cars coupled with poor corporate support for the dealership I just jumped ship. I’ve been with Nissan for almost a year now. They have their own issues but offer much better support and tools from a corporate level and reasonable labor times for warranty repair. All around a better brand too work for.

@bubulubu3136

Жыл бұрын

Under load the RPM will be fairly accurately limited by the rev limiter. If the transmission essentially goes into neutral, the engine can easily spin past the limiter. 8300 seems like a lot, but who knows.

@mikelugo848

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. At my toyota store we caught a person stuck in a mud bog show for 45 minutes reverse to forward at red line until the transmission blew up. Only 3,000 miles and we denied any warranty work. All the information showed up in the ECU memory

@RedLine_90

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Hyundai will not decline if you leave it alone and stock. I had 2 cars approved for repairs with no issues. I even had an engine replaced with no issues. They gave me a loaner while I waited for the repairs. Dont lie to the people man.

So far my service experience at Hyundai has been very good. I got a flat tire once, road debris. They picked up the car, it took 2 weeks to get a tire. They gave me a loaner for the entire time. I thought that was quite good. My other experience was experience was when the seatbelt recall came in. I scheduled to get it done but they would not give me a loner this time. $50 Uber bill......

@maxhunt2644

Жыл бұрын

Emory, when you bought your car did you specifically talk about road hazard for your tires? I have a Kona N which has a bubble in the sidewall. Obviously, that's a bad thing! I took it to the dealer and he pulled up my information and said I didn't have road hazard. Road hazard was never mentioned during the purchase process and I didn't think to ask because of all the other things, mainly the finance process, which took an hour. Anyway, I'm just curious if you bought the road hazard or not and if not, how did you get your tire replaced? They want $265 for a Pirelli PZero. BTW, I've bought several new cars and have never discussed road hazard. I haven't needed road hazard on all the cars I bought but I have needed it a time or two and there were no questions asked.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Classic Hyundai inconsistencies.

@LordHolley

Жыл бұрын

@@maxhunt2644 I think I was the 1st person in Arizona to buy the car. I think I got mind within 3 or 4 days of them being available. At that point the mark up and demand was at it's peak. I wasn't getting the car if I didn't accept road hazard, nitrogen filled tires, their silly paint protectant, their shi**y tint, on and on. So yes, I have road hazard. I picked up a nail a couple months ago. They picked up my car, took it back to the dealership and gave me a loner for 2 weeks (kona, loved it). That's how long it took them to get a replacement tire in.

@LordHolley

Жыл бұрын

@@maxhunt2644 If I were you, I would consider picking upicking up another set of wheels. The tires are great but they are ridiculously expensive.. I have had to pay for one that wore out already. Sure, I drive a little bit like a maniac at times but 10000 miles? no good!

@cindysue5474

Жыл бұрын

Same here on the tires my dealer had to search around the US till he found a dealer with 2 tires in stock.

I don't have a Hyundai, but I do have a 2022 Kia K5 with the 1.6T and 8 speed auto. My local Kia dealer has been great on service. No complaints.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

That’s great! I have heard Kia is much better than Hyundai when it comes to the dealership experience.

Hi. This is very concerning. I have a 2023 kona N and a 2021 elantra N line, which i absolutely love. You hit the spot on the warranty theme. One of the main thing i choose hyundai was the warranty. When i bought my elantra n line it only had 57 miles and was sold as new, now 3 months after i got it, the clutch burned out. Yes it is a 6 speed manual trans. So i took it in to the dealership, they said it didn't fall under warranty since it was a wear and tear part. I've been driving stick shift since i was 15 theres no way i would of burned the clutch. Now hyundai didn't cover it, i paid 3,200 for that clutch

Urban legend: unnamed friend of a friend had something very bad happen. Tell everyone! Wild claims need verifiable details

@neverendingmods

Жыл бұрын

How about the GDI motors all exploding and not being covered under warranty until the government stepped in and made Hyundai and Kia honor all the thousands and thousands of people who they denied engine replacements to and even the current owners. Hundreds of thousands of vehicles affected with hundreds of thousands of people denied warranty claims and made to foot the bill themselves for a new engine on a car under warranty. They have been doing this for years and Hyundai tells the dealerships not to honor warranty claims. It's a known fact. And you do know that every Kia vehicle uses a Hyundai made motor and transmission.

It has been my experience that Hyundai will only do the bare minimum to repair your car. I have a 2010 Genesis Coupe Track Spec and the transmission quit, they replaced it twice with a used transmission and so far so good! I asked why they didn’t replace with a new transmission and they said it was their option to choose! This was done at Holler Hyundai in Winter Park Fl. It has been my experience that product quality is low, especially regarding interior trim but overall quality is low! I also have a 2013 Sonata with the 2.4 Ltr Theta engine that blows up due to poor engine quality in the manufacturing process as well as the fuel tube potential fire hazard recall going on the second recall because they realized the first bandaid recall was insufficient! Again showing they only want to do the very minimum! Now I am told that BlueLink will cease to function next month because they are unwilling to update the cellular telematics hardware from 2G to 4G ! This was a selling feature and by not updating the hardware my vehicle Will immediately lose value! I think another class action lawsuit needs to be brought! Bottom line do not buy Hyundai as they don’t stand behind their poor quality cheaply made products!

@DC_PRL

Жыл бұрын

true, my rear break caliper hung up, they only replaced break pads and a rotor on one side, haha...aholes.

Not pointing fingers at all because I don't know the story. I just know what I learned from watching your video and all the other videos, and stories that have been shared about this so far. I've read a few things saying that he had modifications on the car and had pictures posted wherever, prior to this happening. Then they suddenly disappeared. I'm on my third Hyundai product - 21 Sonata N Line now. Just turned 28K today. I also worked in the auto repair industry for nearly 30 years. I retired early. So I most definitely know when my chain is getting yanked lol. Anything other than an oil change, I've been given a loaner. I dropped it off midday Wednesday for a scheduled appointment to correct a random GPS issue and for my in-between oil change. My two jugs of Mobil 1 were on the passenger side floor. She gave me a 2023 Santa Fe with 15 miles as my loner. Called me Friday morning around 9:30 to tell me it was done. My service advisor is great. With my previous one I had an issue with the HVAC control head that started occurring under warranty then miraculously stopped for over 10,000 miles. They replaced it at no charge when it happened outside of the bumper bumper. They also replaced the combination switch well outside the bumper to bumper at no charge. One thing I will definitely agree with you on is the oil viscosity issue. My owner's manual says nothing but 0W30, yet Hyundai is allowing them to put in 0W20 synthetic. It's not like the 2.5T is only in one vehicle. They should be requiring the dealers to stock 0W30 synthetic rather than just use 0W20 because it's what they have. I've been bringing 0W30 synthetic to them for all of my services. The free ones as well as the ones I have been doing in between. They have not had a problem with it.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Yes I’m planning on making a follow up video about that story since I now believe he was not being honest. I called him out for it and he just didn’t reply. To me that confirms my suspicions.

I own a 2021 Hyundai Santa Fe and have received a recall notice a while back but can't find any more information as to is it safe to drive, or if the vehicle goes into this shut down mode and only gives you 20 to 30 seconds to pull over safely, would it restart or would it have to be towed.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

I think the majority of people who get the recall notice on the DCT are still driving their cars, they’re just waiting for the notice of a fix to bring to car in. As far as what happens, I believe the car will go into limp mode which means you can drive it for a short amount of time at a very low speed. If that happens, the best action to take would be to have the car towed whether it restarts or not.

Sadly this is nothing new. I bought a brand new Hyundai Genesis Coupe several years ago, and within 1200 miles I took it in to get several issues addressed. A very loud rattle under acceleration behind the dash near the tachometer and some paint defects that were getting worse were the biggest issues (there were a few more). Hyundai tech drove and car and told me there was nothing wrong, even when I had him ride with me and the rattle was clear as day. For the peeling paint they submitted it to Corporate who denied the warranty claim claiming "normal wear and tear". This was on a 2 month old car and 1200 miles. At 3K miles I took it in for an oil change and they overfilled the oil on the car, this was after waiting hours for an oil change. After I determined it was overfilled, they made me wait 3 hours to address it. That was it for me. I sold the car a few months later and lost money but have never looked back. Just this year I was thinking about a Kia Sorento for my teenage kids and read a ton of complaints about the transmission and people waiting 3-6 months for parts. Bought a Honda for them instead. It's really too bad because, on paper, Hyundai/Kia offer very nice products with good tech and features, but a warranty is of zero use if company does not stand by it. If you read the forums there have been constant issues with the DCT's, making someone pay for a new engine is wrong. Making your own service tech pay for it is even more wrong. Shame on Hyundai.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

I don’t blame you for not trusting Kia/Hyundai anymore. If I had an experience like that I would probably never go back either. As far as the guy in this case who had his engine failure denied, I’ve been hearing through the grapevine that he may not have been 100% honest with me or other members about being completely stock. I’m still investigating that, but there is some evidence of him posting some aftermarket parts in the group. But that’s just one case. It seems there’s been plenty others where they are not standing by their warranty. Thanks for the comment. I hope the Honda is reliable for your kids!

This is not just a problem with Hyundai, it's a problem with a huge number of manufacturers. From my 16 years experience of VW Group cars in the UK they are worse and are certainly not reliable. Every VW/Audi that I have owned has had a major fault costing thousands of £'s to repair, VW will wriggle at best, usually come up with a good will gesture for things that are obviously warranty. I have now taken delivery of my first KIA, we'll see if any claim process is better, but really hoping that they are better screwed together and just wont break in the first place!

@drsnowmon

Жыл бұрын

Sigh, yeah I have a GTI and just got quoted for $1450 for "Front Assist Not Available" According to them, I'm not covered and my ACC needs recalibration. We can all agree dealerships are thieves

@muffindell

Жыл бұрын

@@drsnowmon just check to see if the camera has become detached before spending any money

Lol as a member of the group I can tell you that the moderator posted mods he had done to the car, which is why it was denied I’m guessing. There is absolutely more to the story than Hyundai just denying his claim. Never had an issue w any warranty issues w Hyundai. The “poor” kid in California also told the cop that he had a track package installed on it. Hyundai also tells you not to drive around town in N mode in the manual 🤦‍♂

@chaseo4557

Жыл бұрын

N mode also isn’t track mode. Dude with the cop was just being dumb tbh didn’t cover his own ass but made it worse for himself

Revving that high, I wonder if the owner did anything to the ECU and the dealer noticed.

All this seems to be US side, my i30n Fastback had a steering/suspension issue and all done no hassle under warrant and was around £3k / $4k US "Ish". I got a Kona N now with a DCT.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

That’s what I’m starting to understand. It’s a US dealership problem.

STAY AWAY FROM HYUNDAI! My 2017 sonata PHEV died after 4 years and Hyundai refused to repair or buyback… claimed they could never get the part so didn’t have to honor their warranty. I crushed them in arbitration, but the whole process has taken 14 monrhs and I am still waiting for my check from Hyundai.

1100 effected? Wouldn't that be the total production of that vehicle??

I have a 2014 elantra. Engine seized in 2020 and was replaced after fighting for 2 mo. Now feb 23 my engine seized again! I'm still bantering back and forth with hyundai. They denied repair under the Powertrain Warranty even though I'm under 100k/10year. Right now waiting to see if the extended warranty is going to cover.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Ugh hope it works out for you!

My warranty denial: I have a 2021 Hyundai Sonata SEL that I really like for the most part. I’m a full time Uber & Lyft driver & got this after someone totaled my 2018 Sonata Sport. At about 5,000 miles, I noticed a hole wearing thru the driver’s carpeted mat where my heel rests. I mentioned this to the Hyundai service advisor & he swapped in a new set of mats. It happened again at just under 10,000 miles & this time, the hole went thru the carpeting underneath the mat, exposing the insulation material underneath. I go back to the dealership & tell the same service advisor & this time, he said he’d have to check with his warranty rep for Hyundai. When I followed up, he said the warranty rep said ‘no’. I told them it was unreasonable for a carpet & mat to not hold up for 5,000 or 10,000 miles. He just shrugged his shoulders. A cousin who works at the dealership let me use his discount to get Sonata branded all weather floor liners which still costed me $150. I think there’s a design flaw where the insulation is too thick, making it easier for a pressure point to wear into the carpet.

@maxwedge5683

Жыл бұрын

WOW!!! What a piece of shit that car is. I'd sue Hyundai right out of business for that. An unforgivable breach of the public trust. Have you gotten a lemon law lawyer involved? Probably worth a cool million in pain an suffering alone.

maybe it's possible to capture data from a trans control unit? The only way the motor could mechanically spin over 8k would be if it was forced to do so by a malfunctioning trans. As noted, the ECU limiter would keep revs down in normal circumstances...otherwise....it would have to be downshifted suddenly into far too low a gear. This would be impossible in a properly functioning and safeguarded DCT, while also being probably a rather hilarious daily occurrence nationwide in a lot of manual transmissions vehicles of all shapes and sizes lol. Simple question back to Hyundai warranty-- as a DCT, how did it rev past 8k without having a malfunction that allowed that to occur? We know a properly functioning DCT, even in manual mode, will NOT allow the downshift and resulting engine catastrophic engine speed to occur. The shift would only be "accepted" by the system if engine speed would result in the proper range. The absolute only way this could be an owner responsibility would be with a manual transmission. How on earth could you argue otherwise?????

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

If it was tuned without a rev limiter, but he said it’s stock, so I have to take his word for it.

@zxmurph1

Жыл бұрын

@@n-power-automotive well, of course, intentional removal of the rev limiter makes all of this discussion useless and replaced by one word. "DENIED" . lol

@anengineerandacat

Жыл бұрын

Seen that story pop up a few times, and I definitely agree; the guy is either A. Lying or B. Needs to get a Lemon Lawyer involved to mediate this; a properly functioning DCT and ECM shouldn't allow an overrev situation. I wouldn't be accepting a declined statement, I would be fighting that tooth and nail.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

@@anengineerandacat yep. I’m starting to lean toward A.

I have the same car stock tune. With transmission updated dct model. I think part the problem is the. Ngs. Button I was driving my car. Doing about 45mph. I floored the car hit the red button and the motor reved out to 8k plus rpm I caught it. Thank god. First time this happened And I have 17k miles on car. Never had a issue great car. Besides this happening

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Wow I’ve never heard of the NGS button doing that before. So you had the DCT recall done? Had you used NGS before the recall or before the time it revved to 8k RPM?

They’re probably trying to send a message to these people getting in the ECM and re-flashing them but if they catch you doing it they’re not gonna warranty the damage

@neverendingmods

Жыл бұрын

No. They have always refused to honor warranty repairs.

@mroberts7519

Жыл бұрын

​@neverendingmods That isn't the experience I have heard. I also have had multiple Kias and they have been excellent from a reliability standpoint. I hope I don't have to eat my words, but I'm pretty sure this is just social media hive mind vs reality.

I already ordered a 2023 Camaro 2SS 1 LE because I don’t want to experience any of those potential issues. I gave Hyundai a shot at by purchasing this car because it was designed by Albert Beerman. I look at it this way, an extra $150 per month in a payment is better than paying big money for a potential breakdown of the N.

call the BBB then go to the lawyer. This is bad.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Turns out it was likely a failure due to the DCT recall and he was compensated by Hyundai.

I have owned 4 new Hyundia's since 1991 thru 2022. I never had a warranty issue. They actually took care of me a few times after the warranty ended. My 91 Excel had oil consumption problems I got rid of it at 90,000. My 2000 Sonata had rear bearings and catalytic convertor problems but covered under warranty. 2013 Elantra GT had total engine replacement recall due to metal shavings in the 1.8 engine. My 2019 Sonata started showing signs of carbon build up but was running fine. They were reported to have oil consumption problems and car thief problems due to not having engine immobilizers. This year with all the class action lawsuits against KIA and Hyundia, I decided to trade it in for a new 2022 Toyota Highlander. We also own and bought new a 2017 Honda Accord and 2016 Silverado. I think Hyundai and KIA have nice looking vehicles, but their engines are not reliable. All you have to do is Google or KZread it and you will find them. As far as the Corp telling you that you could use different grade oil is totally wrong. The DCT problem is definitely a warranty issue and should be covered but they are not. I believe that the Corp is no longer standing behind their warranty like they use to. I just lost trust in them and I will never own another one.

The guy said his car is completely stock but had mods in his car? His story doesn't make sense.

I was shopping for a new car and was seriously considering Hyundai or Kia, but with all the complaints against these brands I bought a new Mazda. I feel really good about my decision.

I have a 2020 palisade with a sunroof issue. Apparently the wind deflector is broken. The dealership refuses to cover it under warranty. the car has 41,000 miles on it. I also spoke with Hyundai customer service and they declined to warranty the repair also. this is the first warranty issue repair I’ve had with this car. I am very disappointed and unhappy. at this point, I am going to sell the car and purchase another vehicle through a different manufacture because obviously Hyundai do not hold up their end of the contract when it comes to warranty work.

@n-power-automotive

9 ай бұрын

That’s really unfortunate. Gosh. Just out of curiosity, did you try a different Hyundai dealership?

You will have issues regardless of what model and will have a hassle regardless with the warranty that’s just how Hyundai works atp. The denied my first engine warranty replacement request , then decided to come back with a “final offer” paying 60% of the engine cost. I told them lol no the engine covered for life then I had to appeal thru the bbb autoline. I think this replacement engine is faulty as well as it’s misfiring and only put 3,500 on it. 2018 sonata 2.0t limited engine&turbo failed 61k.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Ugh not good. I know you’ve had a bad experience, but thankfully there are people that have had good experiences, too. I’m hoping I don’t face the same issue as you have.

Unfortunately, Hyundai has a reputation for not honoring their warranties. Having a 10 year warranty means nothing if they blame you and won't do any repairs. Don't buy Hyundai!!

I would go with my own experience. Social media sucks.

@LordHolley

Жыл бұрын

100%, A lot of these people complaining are not being up front. I bet a dollar to a donut hole there's definitely more to the stories that we hear.

Pretty interesting, if you look up the DCT issue, it says "Remedy not yet available". I called the dealer I bought my car from, spoke to a "less than helpful" service manager. He was completely unaware of it. He said that Hyundai hasn't told him about it yet. I said well it says it right here on this recall search. It's also all over the Internet I would think that you guys would have already heard about it by now. Then told me "I sure hope we get a remedy soon". He couldn't have projected a bigger "I don't give a crap" attitude. My mind is blown. Really bums me out because I absolutely love the car.

@LordHolley

Жыл бұрын

fyi, The dude with the popped motor has tons of social media posts about all the stuff he's been buying for his car. Turbo kits, etc. My gut tells me this dude put a bunch of stuff on the car, did not tune it right, motor popped, and now he's trying to create negative attention for Hyundai and hopefully pressure them in to fixing the motor for free.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Most dealerships really don’t give a crap unfortunately. It’s rare to find a good one.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Regarding the guy who blew his motor. I’ve chatted with him a few times and I’m leaning more your way than my original assessment.

@LordHolley

Жыл бұрын

@@n-power-automotive No kidding, that's even more interesting! It really sucks for that guy but at the end of the day if you're not willing to lose, don't play the game. These cars are a total blast bone stock. Admittedly I just did a tune on mine and an RMM. It's amazing how much more fun the car is, so easy to get the upgrade bug. I'm super tempted to put on an intake, big intercooler, and downpipe but I'd like to know the cost is for a new DCT first lol.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

@@LordHolley ha ha it would be good to know before you start going crazy with all the mods! I haven’t heard of RMM. I’ll have to look into them.

Not good, takes away one of the major selling points.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Yep, for sure. Thanks for the comment man!

Hyundai should pay for a lawyer to fight the exhaust case in court. Any cop in any jurisdiction can say a stock exhaust is illegal. It is not hyundai's fault in this case. They should fight it and win one time to set the precedent that local cops cannot override approval by the state and us govt.

I have the same problem with my 2012 Kia Sportage, Kia Denied the warranty

Man and here i was thinking about selling my Lexus and getting one of these new EN's , SMH Hyundai corporate!!🤦‍♂️

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Great car, terrible dealer service. I’m sure it’d be a shock going from Lexus service to Hyundai.

@5.0_Lex_

Жыл бұрын

@@n-power-automotive I could imagine if they are as ppl claim they are. Lexus even replaced my entire door dash and all 4 door cards for free on my ISF.

Had that happen to my Elantra N and got rid of it after the second time i almost got pasted trying to cross the road

I don't see the point in modding the EN. It's FWD so ~300HP is all you would need. The car has been touted to be balanced and already ready for track use. It already sounds good so an exhaust is not needed. Rev Hang isn't an issue in the manuals so you don't need to tune it. I'm getting a 2023 one next month, and I'm going to drive the hell out of it and not mod anything and enjoy the warranty without giving them an excuse to deny me.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

I think you just get used to the power and crave more. The exhaust does sound perfect to me, but even with that people are developing catbacks and plenty of people will buy them. The only mod I’ll probably do is an intake. I just love the sound of the spooling turbo, which is hard to hear over the exhaust with the factory airbox. But that won’t void hr warranty. Not planning on tuning it until I’m out of the warranty phase.

@dumbeezy5480

Жыл бұрын

If you gotten the car yet, what do you think about it?

@s5SnipEmo

Жыл бұрын

@@dumbeezy5480 Dealer tried to gouge me for a market adjustment so I just bought a lightly used stinger GT2 AWD for cheaper

@dumbeezy5480

Жыл бұрын

@@s5SnipEmo Damn that sucks. What state are you in?

I had a 2013 Hyundai Elantra GT fully loaded, nice care, but horrible problems with it and horrible Hyundai customer service at the service center. They made me feel like I was making stuff up. I took my care into the service center because the constant smell of gas, rough idle and my car turning off while driving. That was the first and last time I will ever buy Hyundai and kia! 👎👎👎

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I’d run away from Hyundai too if I experienced that.

Hyundai dealership service managers are told by Hyundai to deny warranty claims. Been doing it for over 15yrs. They count on people getting mad and leaving as lawyer and court costs are additional money owners would have to pay. That is why Hyundai and Kia have so called 100k mile warranty. To attract suckers. They tell women they had oil changed at a garage other than dealer their warranty is voided. Tell men who change own oil warranty is voided. They state you must follow recommended service in manual to a T to have any kind of warranty guarantee but still refuse to fix problems under warranty for free. They will still try to charge you labor or part cost. Only morons buy Hyundai and Kia vehicles.

@tonychau1983

Жыл бұрын

I've actually had hyundai fan boys tell me you have to use oem oil filters or they'll void warranty 🤣

Was considering an N but this has put the stop on that one.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

You shouldn’t let it. I’m going to follow up on this video soon. I don’t think they guy was being completely honest.

@SirtubalotTX

Жыл бұрын

@@n-power-automotive I'll keep tabs.

Ryan says his car is completely stock? Lmaooooo

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Ohhh… you have some inside info, do you?

@nstylemotorsportsracing1471

Жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing. I don’t know who Ryan is but I definitely have respect for jeromeo23 if he is saying lmao I believe his car was in fact not stock.

@dubiousmike

Жыл бұрын

He never showed official responses from Hyundai, did he?

What he experienced falls directly in line with a bad tune. Where’s the official responses in writing from Hyundai he got with the denial and the reason? Smells fishy.

The Hyundai tech modified the ecu and put other things on the car, which is why he was denied. He also purchased another EN after all was said and done...

I expect to take my car to the dealer for a service once a year. Apart from a puncture anything that needs doing is the car’s fault. I’ve had my current Suzuki for nearly six years with zero faults of any kind and I expect the replacement Honda to give me identical service. We shall see.

Years ago when Hyundai/KIA introduced it's 10/100,000 warranty they did it to help overcome the bad reputation for reliability and durability their models in the early years of selling in the US market had acquired. It became a major selling point for them and I'm sure they wish they could get rid of it. Without the warranty what is the compelling reason to buy them over a competing brand? They're not really that much less expensive to purchase and in the long run they are more expensive because of their poor resale value. They also make the least profit per unit of any of the major automakers, only around $700, so I'm sure they will do anything possible to deny an expensive warranty claim.

The first issue imo is not on Hyundai to document a 'fake' fix help the customer fool the state inspector. This guy screwed himself by happily putting the car into it's loudest mode for the inspector to begin with. Hyundai gave him proof the car is stock, whatcelse can they do? He's in court, the right place to sort this out. The second issue, many have posted this guy is all over FB with the mods he's done to the car, likely voiding his own warranty. *Hyundai has their issues no doubt* and lots of them, but these cases, ehhhh

No Hyundai for me, i was thinking about getting one, no more. Honda here i come!

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Honda’s are great cars, but not without their own issues. This particular case is starting to unravel because the guy said he was completely stock, but others are saying that’s untrue.

@westhoff-

Жыл бұрын

If you get a Honda, at least you know the engine is not going to fail.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

@@westhoff- not 100% true. I heard of engine failures in the 2.0T Accords. It happens. Rarely though. But after gathering more info on this particular guy, I feel he wasn’t totally honest about the car being stock.

It'd got nothing about brand loyalty, and everything to do with good, reliable engineering. The reason people avoid the Elantra N (and other Hyundai/Kia products), is because they continue to use the Theta II engine. It's NOT a great engine. Even if it won't blow up right away, it generally won't last past 100-150K miles. The design flaws are in the oiling system and certain production issues with the piston/rings/cylinder clearances. At some point it either will brun through enough oil, or just have the oil starvation issues where either you'll end up with piston slap issues, or the main crank bearings getting chewed up. The latter will destroy the engine or seize it right up. The former will also destroy parts of the engine, just might take a bit longer with a lot more noise. Not saying you can't get lucky if you baby it, and make it last. But is that something you're interested in doing, and investing money in? I'd rather get a Type-R, or the Carolla GR, or a Golf R. The K20C1, G16E-GTS, and the EA888 engines in those are nearly bulletproof, will take more power, and will last reliably for a very long time. I test drove the Elantra N, and I would love to be able to get it, its a great drivers car. The suspension, steering, engine, DCT, brakes and interior are really nice and fun to drive, and easy to live with. However knowing the potential disaster lying in wait, like an IED under your toilet seat, is just not worth the money/time investment and rear end pucker factor.

I guess I'm not buying an N. I was really looking forward to tracking one.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

You should check out my update video before you make a final decision. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iZZ9tZeEfKydmtY.html

@ShawnsTrains265

Жыл бұрын

@169 Design thank you for the update. That does change things. One question remains. Manual, or DCT?

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

@@ShawnsTrains265 I love the DCT, but if you’re a manual guy get the manual.

@ShawnsTrains265

Жыл бұрын

@@n-power-automotive I can go either way. I'd love a manual again, but I do love my paddle. With track days, the paddles would be handy. My 3.8 genesis coupenhas paddles and it's a good time.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

@@ShawnsTrains265 if you like the Gen coupe auto with paddles then you’ll definitely love the DCT with paddles! It’s an absolutely incredible transmission.

2008 SONATA Limited here with 117k and 2.4l engine. IMO a garbage car. Not even close to advertised MPG, a transmission pan rusted out, replacing oil pan this w/e ( also rusted out). Oil leaks everywhere, the receiver cd player died and it won't hold preset radio channels. Will be replacing with an ebay special. I'm glad it's not a turbo. Get a Toyota or Honda instead

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Hyundai’s come a long way since 2008, but that still sounds like a lot of unnecessary stuff to deal with.

They don’t even need to flash the etc. to test in normal mode.

I am wondering if Hyundai uses the crappy JATCO same as Nissan used for a decade and has been junk.

18k on a car under a year old? I drive an 04 Crossfire with under 60k on it.

They screwed me The tranny went out because the service manager stated '' hat Hyundai put a big turbo on a mediocre engine and transmission and they are all going out'' THey refused to cover it This was my third Hyundai . NEVER AGAIN

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Which Hyundai model?

Have heard here at Australia Hyundai Australia are a pack of scum bags with warranty claims and after sales service is a night mare.

Get rid of dealerships. Buy direct from manufacturer and get it serviced by someone you trust and have the manufacturer pick up the tab for warranty issues.

@tenbitcomb

Жыл бұрын

Yes, dealerships are bad and I think have gotten worse in recent years. They'll do whatever they can to get out of honoring even the cheapest of warranty issues. Too bad because my Elantra has been a great car. Unfortunately, you have to go to dealerships for airbag issues, so they're here to stay if not just for that reason.

And people did not learn when Ford and Volkswagen had bad DCT transmissions. Stupid people buy DCT transmissions.

This just happened to me, but I had to pay 25 percent of the 11,500 bill.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Which part happened to you?

@drumiel

Жыл бұрын

@@n-power-automotive Had to pay 25% of the engine repair. $11,300 was the total (before taxes).

Remember Hyundai’s start..... the Excel.... $4995. And they would finance ANYONE...But at 40k miles it would start smoking because the rings were gone.... Hyundai came on strong FOR AWHILE... NOW. They think to highly of their product and themselves. How about their “BBQ” models......

It's Hyundai what do you expect lol they always try to cut costs

So much for that 10 year warranty. My santa cruz would stutter and lose power. The idiots at the shop say with no code they can't fix it. I am sure it is either a turbo issue or the DCT that has a recall without a fix. Think I am done with hyundia at this point. We may all need to sue. They set 2 billion aside and need to use it to fix these vehicles. At the very least hire competent techs. Think I will take mine to kia pay out of pocket and sue for reimbursement

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Sounds about right for Hyundai techs from all the comments I’ve gotten. If I end up having any sort of issue that can’t be resolved I very well may end up perusing legal action as well. Why would you take yours to Kia though?

@Tony-hf9mv

Жыл бұрын

@@n-power-automotive the kia dealership in my area is very good and I know some of the mechanics personally. Hyundia and kia are pretty much the same platforms

We need a federal lemon /warranty law !!!!!!!!! State lemon laws vary too much are watered down or don’t have any at all.

Hyundai not helping the guy is really a bad look. This is just more reasons why I'm thinking of trading my Kona N for a BMW M2. I've had good experiences with some Lexus and BMW interactions.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

I’m not going to lie, I’ve thought about doing something similar, but I’ll let it play out a little bit more before I do anything drastic.

@carloscervantes836

Жыл бұрын

@@n-power-automotive it’s a good amount of money involved, always good to give it some time to think about it.

@johnnybravo5044

Жыл бұрын

Get a Toyota. Problem solved.

@tv321123

Жыл бұрын

Well I mean, if you got a Lexus the issue of something breaking would probably not happen in the first place.

Screw there service I've had the same issues

If the Hyundai tech ECU logs noted a turbo over-rev it was in-fact an over-rev at 8350 rpm. This means it was a manual transmission and he made a money shift. He shifted down to a lower gear @ WOT, instead of shifting up to another gear. Can’t happen with a DCT, bit can with a MT. It’s happened quite a few times before and cost owners a new long block. The problem with the DCT is a few bad high pressure transmission pumps and the current limp mode software. It’s a minor problem and won’t cause the replacement t of the DCT transmission.👍🇺🇸

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

He’s a DCT, so that’s what’s so crazy about the whole situation.

@johnnybravo5044

Жыл бұрын

Bottom line is that Hyundai sucks when it especially comes to backing up their warranty. It has been a big scam for a long time with Hyundai and their awesome 10 year warranty.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnybravo5044 I hope you’re wrong, but with all that’s going on with Hyundai, I’m staring to think you may be on to something.

Mate, i don’t know how much these go for in Americas, but surely they’re not at a “premium” price point.. Hyundai has always been a cheap A to B beater, and that was it. Think of the old Hyundai XL and Accent.. back in 2000s they used to run you 12-15 grand.. surely you don’t expect them to be “performance “ brand only a short few years later… Kia-Hyundai are now pumping out some “serious “ models and charging serious money for them, which in my opinion won’t fly.. imagine re selling a 10 year old Kia stinger or something.. Anyway, point of the story, these are good for 3-5 years if driven gently and that’s it…

Scotty Kilmer and Car Wizard says stay from the dealer and Koren junk. Make GM look like Honda LOL

This seems to be a US problem. Over the years Hyundai in the US just has all the problems in the world with their builds. It has been world known for decades that American-made cars suffer from poor workmanship and reliability. In the 60s when Australia bought the XL falcon out to sell, it only lasted like 1 month before the ball joints fell apart, and the tie rods broke. They had to completely remanufacture the items in Australia to get quality. This is why, when other countries take American brands they often get the licence to make them themselves as a subsidiary of either GM or Ford. Hyundai from Korea doesn't suffer a tenth of the problems of the US build, using the same machinery, just different labour and materials.

@maxwedge5683

Жыл бұрын

All the Elantra N's are built in the Ulsan Korea plant. American built Elantra models come out of the plant in Alabama I think.

@ProwlXV

Жыл бұрын

@@maxwedge5683 American Elantras are either built in Alabama or Korea, depending on if they are Hybrid or Conventional iirc

@jeffreyfurtado3681

Жыл бұрын

American car companies typically put most of the r and d into its trucks/SUV's and they have mostly skimped out on the sedan side.

Hyundai shouldn't be selling N vehicles or performance vehicles in general if they cant bring it to redline from time to time, that's the reason they buy an Elantra N and its advertised as such. I wouldn't be buying an N and then shift at 3 grand and drive 55 on the highway.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

They should definitely back up the performance aspect if they want to get the respect from those of us that want that type of car with a warranty. The guy that blew his engine has some said some questionable things lately, so it’s possible he modified his car and that’s what’s actually going on in this case.

Hyundai/Kia (and Samsung or LG) can offer the most amazing warranty on paper only. Korean perspective: Always YOUR fault... Warranty DENIED. The "N" must stand for NO warranty

I didn't even look at Hyundai nor Kia when I bought my new car

Saw the video so disgusting of Hyundai America wonder if the Australian models have the same issue after watching video I would buy the 6 speed manual over the auto box.

Like I say I need to do your research before you make a big purchase like that

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Research told me to be wary of the dealership experience, which I was. Nothing that I read or heard about the Elantra N was alarming, so I bought it.

Why do people act like Hyundai and Kia denying warranty claims is something new? People just don't do their research before buying a vehicle whether new or used. If they did they would notice stay away from Hyundai and Kia at all costs.

Like...um...why would I ever buy a Hyundai??

I had enuff of their recalls. I’m buying a Mazda🤑😲

Genesis sucks too. My G80 has had terrible service. I am supposed to get a genesis loaner and their excuse is always “ we have no cars to loan “ I am done, thus Korean car company has single handedly ruined the asian reliability standards. Next car is a Mercedes.

Shoulda stuck with the charger lmfao

Never buy a Hyundai or Kia. They lure you in with a great warranty period and then deny if you actually need to use it. Total scam.

THERE IS NOW WAY HYUNDAIS OR KIAs ARE AS GOOD AS A HONDA OR TOYOTA, NEVER EVER, HAD 2 HONDA ACCORDS 2 CAMRYS, LAS ONE A CAMRY HYBRID WITH NO PROBLEMS, GET IN PUSH THE BUTTON AND GO. LOVING MY 2012 SIENNA AND 2016 LEXUS NX 200T ALSO.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

My Accord had problems, my Elantra hasn’t. Honda quality isn’t what it used to be. Toyota on the other hand remains very reliable.

Go ahead and buy another

I hope you’re happy for bashing the accord!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

So is 10 years/100k a sales gimmick? A warranty is everything to a consumer,considering the price of new cars!!!! Car mfg’s need to honor their commitments!!!!!!! Stop gouging the consumer, call your congress people,they need to get to understand these consumer issues,call your state consumer agency and yell at them as well!!!!!

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

Great question. I’m hoping it’s not a gimmick and they honor it most circumstances. I have found out after making this video that this particular guy seems to tell one thing, but posts other things that indicate he might have had modifications on his car.

Would never even think of buying a Hyundai.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

I never thought I’d own one but here I am lol. It’s a great car though. The service just sucks.

Honday or Hyundai

Stupid enough to buy a Hyundai, should trade it in for a BYD😅

@n-power-automotive

4 ай бұрын

That’s for sharing 👍🏻

They make junk cars and now you know the warranty is not worth the paper it is written on! Talk to an independent mechanic, they are junk.

Move to a red state😲🚗🏎🚒🚘

You said, "The car is completely stock, or so he says..." . Yeah, right. There's more to this than anybody is saying here. Why is it every video on Hyundai's poor warranty performance it always mentions this guy and that poor bastard in California who's only screw up was living in California? How many other claims has Hyundai denied? I've heard the reports of questionable dealer service. That's true with any manufacturer. I change my own oil in my DCT. Even though you can't find Shell or Quaker State 0w-30 oil anywhere near me, I use Mobile-1 0w-30 and I buy my filters from the Hyundai dealer. (even though they had difficulty identifying the correct filter - 26300-35505) I even videotape me doing the change just in case there's ever any question. Hyundai will NOT warrant any modifications to the engine, engine control computer or transmission, neither will any other automobile manufacturer. Are you surprised? I was told there were no restrictions regarding race track use. My N has been to Watkins Glen and Lime Rock Park. Limited (proper) track use has no effect on the Elantra N, in fact, she seems happier on the track than on the street. It's what she was built for. Maybe these people are not the mechanics (or drivers) they think they are. Maybe Hyundai knows when they're being scammed.

@n-power-automotive

Жыл бұрын

There’s more questions than answers with this situation. I need to make a follow up video on it. I no longer believe he was stock.

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