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@philseung8

2 жыл бұрын

Elantra N

@AnonAnon-qi4ts

2 жыл бұрын

If I would go new R for 45k, I would keep going for an Audi RS3. The N is the knockoff R at a discount. That's why I own one. The dampers, good enough engine, lsd, grippy seats, variable exhaust and big brakes almost read like a checklist Hyundai made to be unique at this price and they left the rest of the crap that didn't matter behind like faux carbon fiber, 20" forged wheels, aluminum comtrol arms, fog lights, hood scoop and cup tires that don't add a lot except cost to the R.

@Freestyleny

2 жыл бұрын

@@AnonAnon-qi4ts it is not a knockoff R, completely diff cars. Theirs a 10,000 price difference as pointed out in the video.

@oliver5403

2 жыл бұрын

Elantra N

@StinkySundae

2 жыл бұрын

Elantra N everyday.

This new Elantra N blew my mind on how great it performs! Good job Hyundai

@slimv3.162

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. When I first test drove my 21 veloster n dct, it completely blew me away. I had no intention on buying it at the time but after just 5 min in I decided right then that I wasn't leaving the dealership without it lol. And now 11,000 miles later it still blows my mind everytime I drive it.....along with anyone else that rides in it or drives it.

Elantra N has German DNA 😉

@vurshawn1358

Жыл бұрын

No

@sergiopiparo4084

Жыл бұрын

@@vurshawn1358 Do your homework

@vurshawn1358

Жыл бұрын

@@sergiopiparo4084 no

@sergiopiparo4084

Жыл бұрын

@@vurshawn1358 Is that the only English word you know?

@vurshawn1358

Жыл бұрын

@@sergiopiparo4084 no

I still prefer and love my Mk8 Golf R but I absolutely understand the importance this car has in the community. I’m so glad that other manufacturers are making fun, sporty cars in the 35-45k range. This makes others raise the bar and hopefully gives us some nice vehicles before EVs take over. It also makes it so there’s more choice and thus more uniqueness on the road. It’d be boring to see the same two cars everywhere. I’m really glad the EN exists and I’m excited to see what the GR Corolla brings to the table. That and the new CTR and we’ll have a vibrant tuner community. I guess the WRX too but… >.>.

@SuperFitness12

Жыл бұрын

The N rocks!!

I have a Veloster N w/6MT. I like the styling of the new Elantra N. They say it is love it or hate it in styling. Love it, but my daughter has a 2022 Tucson Hybrid with the similar angular styling.

Its crazy you mentioned the BRZ bros since this is looking like my #2 option if I cant get ahold of one of them.

My money is still on the Elantra N. I rather have the sedan than a hatchback. Now if Honda were to do a Type R sedan in the North American market like the Japanese market got with the DB8 Japanese-spec Integra Type R and the Japan-spec Civic Type R sedan that was based on the 8th gen Civic Si platform 3 car generations ago, I'd go Type R, but because I think I wouldn't look right in a hatchback, the Elantra N wins. I'd take the Elantra N in the Intense Blue and manual. Side note: The Canadian-spec Elantra N in Canada gets the sunroof with the manual. I'll never understand why automakers have to slap us in the face giving other markets more features than the U.S. and we get poverty-specs to certain enthusiast vehicles.

@19hundoc47

26 күн бұрын

Not all of us want sunroofs. The car is more rigid with no sunroof which helps with driving dynamics

Great review.

Good review man, well done

@dwnshft

2 жыл бұрын

many thanks!

Good review. But @11:12 that info is slightly incorrect. The gauze changes for each eco, sport and normal mode default from the factory. Unless you configure it on the infotainment to set 1 particular gauze for all 3 modes. Someone must have set "sports" mode theme for all modes.

@dwnshft

2 жыл бұрын

that must ahve been it then, yeah - good catch

I live in Atlanta and the only way to get an Elantra N was to buy one that is in transit. I bought a cyber grey automatic but it keeps getting delayed by a week or two. I really hope that I end up getting it on k July 7th...

@tuve9841

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, the ports are backed up and my Elantra N has been delayed for over a month now. Its frustrating and dealerships are marking up this car anywhere from $5 -7k. Hyundai isnt making a lot of these so dealerships are trying to squeeze this model as much as they can from consumers.

@joelbalsley1033

2 жыл бұрын

I committed to buy mine on 5/3 and its ETA was 5/23. It was delayed 5 times and finally arrived 6/15. The recall was completed yesterday so I"m picking it up Sat. You can still buy these at MSRP but you have to be firm and work for it. I called 8 different dealerships before I found someone willing to sell at MSRP. I immediately gave them a deposit.

@buddyholleypoint9032

Жыл бұрын

I got mine from Potamkin Hyundai in Stone Mt. It took a little while to get it, but got performance blue and DCT. Its a fun car, and worth the wait.

@sai-pc5fl

Жыл бұрын

Hey did you end up getting it?

Maybe it’s the updates with the 24 model but I have a 24 manual N and the torque steer is very minimal if at all

keep in mind the E-LSD is still a full LSD but it can send tons of power to either side. and it isn't using the breaks like some fake versions

awesome car

So you didn't buy one the next day? Like your last video said?

@dwnshft

2 жыл бұрын

I started the process, but with the transition to full-time youtube I talked about it with my wife a little more and we are holding off for a little bit

Is there any way to limit the firecracker exhaust? I would like it some of the time but not every time I breathe off the throttle

@dwnshft

Жыл бұрын

Yeah you can do like 5 different things to the exhaust

@en_noah4615

Жыл бұрын

yep you can turn em off. its functional for track use as it keeps the turbo spooled between shifts and when letting off throttle

It reminds me of an SRT4 Neon for some reaon.

@davidpaulin

2 жыл бұрын

Its got that raw feeling but with proper handling this time

35k but after taxes, registration and warranties it’s over 40k 😂😂 still a nice car tho

A Road and Track blogger talked about a difficult clutch to modulate, did you experience this at all?

@dersupra

2 жыл бұрын

that problem comes from the motor mount. Torque is keeping the car from finding 2nd gear. Changing to the solid 2 piece Sxth Element motor mount eliminates the wheel hop and helps car get into gear under torque. Plus there is that whole backwards clutch thing going on with some cars.

@ak2112

2 жыл бұрын

There was a recall for some 22 Elantra Ns...they installed the clutch wrong on some of them which I would assume caused the wonky clutch feel R&T wrote about.

@cindysue5474

2 жыл бұрын

@@dersupra Yes the first thing to change is that motor mount then add catch can. Even though I own a Kona N Im still going to put on the upgraded mount.

@dersupra

2 жыл бұрын

@@cindysue5474 Hmm. Can you tell a difference with the catch can? I was thinking about doing the Sxth element everything lol. BoV, Solenoid, Catch can, Cold air intake and Stage 1 ECU

@cindysue5474

2 жыл бұрын

@@dersupra No the catch can will collect the oil vapors and turn it into a liquid that you empty out during your oil change.Sounds like you have a good list there.

I want this car so bad! And I don’t even need another sport car.

Bro its 55k Aud 😅 still great bang for buck down under compared to what we have available for 50-60k

@meCmoni

Жыл бұрын

Damn that's like 50k here in Canada and we can get it for under 40k here. Y'all are getting ripped off down under lol

Not that it really matters in this purpose built car, but I thought the rear seat was not split in the EN. I could be wrong though.

@dwnshft

2 жыл бұрын

You’re correct. I misspoke and tried to correct with a text overlay in editing

@wbwayne8887

2 жыл бұрын

@@dwnshft Thanks for the reply. I am a recent subcriber, and enjoy all your inciteful content. Keep up the hard work and dedication.

Great track car, but how is the Elantra N as a city commuter car? Out the door price for a dual wet clutch 8 speed transmission Elantra N is about $38000 (closer to $40k than $30k). It's too noisy and the car feels stiff (not supple). This might appeal to a young college graduate not encumbered by a lot of student debt. ;-) I priced the car insurance...it was high! I love the exterior design and color. Personally, I thought the 2022 Honda Civic Touring Hatch was a better buy.

@postalpancho

2 жыл бұрын

38k is entry level BMW territory, for $42k you can get a 230i M sport with an ELSD. I say it is best to just pay a little bit more and get a much better car. Everything in the Elantra is extremely cheap.

@frankhernandez4695

Жыл бұрын

@@postalpancho I mean 10k more isn’t worth it for a car that is likely slower and has a worse infotainment. And don’t forget the cost to maintain and insure

@postalpancho

Жыл бұрын

@@frankhernandez4695 nah it is 10k more only if you get the manual and I would bet the manual is slower. A lot of the Elantra N performance lies on the fact that the Elantra N can be had on a DCT. Also the Hyundai dealership experience is absolutely trash. BMW may be more expensive but I the BMW is more reliable, way better dealership experience, and much better ride for a daily makes it a win. A FWD car has to sacrifice a lot in order to keep up with a RWD car in order t keep up with it at the race track and still be a great daily driver. Also an Elantra N, being FWD, will teach you bad driving habits that will not progress your driving skills into faster cars. Think long term buddy! You will eventually be able to afford faster cars and they won’t be FWD. the fastest cars are RWD and AWD.

@postalpancho

Жыл бұрын

@Western Liberal Ideology-leftNright-isHYPOCRITICAL Toyota could of used an engine from Lexus to put in the Supra but instead they chose BMWs B48 and B58 engine which has been highly praised for is durability and performance and is even highly praised in the tuner community as the return of the 2JZ. BMW are expensive to fix but they are not unreliable when you stay on top of service. Besides Hyundai DCT have been exploding and have had many poor installations and poor service when you visit a dealership. Hyundai has no room to talk about reliability. Even Toyota thinks they are reliable enough to deserve the Toyota badge.

I also would choose the manual. The fact that it's sans sunroof, only lessons the weight and decreases the center of gravity. Not to mention, makes it more solid overall. For handling, all of that is important. Definitely one of my favorite new cars, cost no object. #savethemanual

@Muffin1980

2 жыл бұрын

Well.. I’m in Canada n I’m supposed to get my EN tomorrow, cyber grey dct. I heard fr a friend that my car might be in the back lot.. so I drove over there, sure enough a cyber grey one with a sunroof.. so I thought it mine. But when I looked inside the car.. it was a manual! With a sunroof, sucks for me I was sure it was mine ha. So I dunno if it’s dif in Canada n you could get a manual with a sunroof.

@wbwayne8887

2 жыл бұрын

@@Muffin1980 It is, and is either standard or available in the Canadian Market. Not sure which. Congrats on your car. I hope you get it soon. Great color choice also.

@jraheemjefcoat429

2 жыл бұрын

@@Muffin1980 I'm the opposite. Sunroof is a must to have for me

To the wheels, the N cars only make about 10 more horse than the Mk8 GTI

@n_veeus4039

2 жыл бұрын

The manual version does yes but the DCT makes 280 whp stock on the dyno. Hyundai severely underrated the Elantra N

I just got a kona N--they had an eleantra N also at the dealer and it was 42k--the Kona N was 35k and had a better stereo.I also owned a Stinger and folks need to realize the elantra sits low and although that is good for handling--it is bad for nicks and scrapes and scuff marks on the low hanging door sills and the low front end skirt.BTW if yoy track this--ceramic coat your car because after just one track event--my Stinger had nicks and dings all along the low door sills from all the chunks of rubber hitting it.I may goto public drag but with what i know from tracking--I will simply just rent a track or exotic next time and save my daily driver from the damage and abuse.BTW the Kona N was just .2 seconds slower then an elantra N on a track video by a pro driver--.

@marcussanchez28

Жыл бұрын

You mean ppf right cause ceramic is like a permanent wax coating lol ceramic coating doesn’t protect against rocks against your paint

@yahyahyah7502

Жыл бұрын

The kona doesnt have the performance the elantra has, speed is not everything.

@khronin

Жыл бұрын

@@yahyahyah7502 Its .2 of a second slower on the 2 tracks tested and I have 100 hours of track time--Im off average times by about a second compared to pros--so bring your elantra N and 10k to see if you can beat me--will be at road ATL 2nd weekend in sept--see you there--cash only.

@khronin

Жыл бұрын

@@yahyahyah7502 or i could bring this----kzread.info/dash/bejne/mquAx5hxmqaXdsY.html

@khronin

Жыл бұрын

@@yahyahyah7502 Next time you comment--watch the channel--i have a 2020 AWD Stinger GT--track and drag rdy on stock tires--a ZL1 and a kona N--speed is everything since u mention a elantra n--BTW in 2 weeks I am getting an X6M comp

this + ecu & tune = over 300 whp. Pretty great and it's already fast out of the box.

@dersupra

2 жыл бұрын

We think they are right at 300hp stock. People have been getting 270ish at the wheels on dyno... putting it over 300 at the crank... Stage 1 tune we are looking around 350.

@davidpaulin

2 жыл бұрын

A simple piggyback and 93 octane is good for 90whp on a mustang dyno.. a proper ecu tune with an intake and downpipe will get you 360whp if not more on that same dyno which is pretty much around 400whp on a dynojet

@mattsmith7379

Жыл бұрын

@@dersupra nope 314hp with a tune

@jeremyickes5699

Жыл бұрын

@@mattsmith7379 yea the most I've seen is like 320 or so

@AntFragale

Жыл бұрын

@@davidpaulin this is all way wrong bro lol.

I'd normally pick the manual version but on dyno the DCT makes an extra 14 whp over the manual so DCT for me. Also the light blue looks atrocious. I'd either go black or white. The other colors don't look good on this car

@rankinmg1

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!!

@pieswimmer1

Жыл бұрын

The light blue is signature! I love it

@rhysgutterson6915

Жыл бұрын

So true. I have white DCT and it looks amazing with all the black and red. I get looks every time I drive it and compliments on the look and sounds.

@damienfrizzell9394

Жыл бұрын

The blue is poo unless you are a hairdresser

Under 35k? Not in this economy. I got mine for 40k, the car is still worth it though.

Good luck getting it for that much, or having a good experience at a Hyundai dealership.... Love this car but I don't want to deal with all that

@WilleyMedia

2 жыл бұрын

Picked up mine a month ago at MSRP and a great dealership experience!

@ll.7927

2 жыл бұрын

@@WilleyMedia shout out dealership when they do u right bro

@DartsForDays

2 жыл бұрын

Done and done!

@guana2708

2 жыл бұрын

i over pay 3k 4 months ago.lol

@Kev4u2

Жыл бұрын

Just picked up my cyber gray ✔️ no hassle

35K??? tell me where to go and buy one now! If available, 38K and I have to hop in a plane from NC to CO and drive it here. So, add the cost of that too. Like the Integra S spec, 38K and for both is the dealer price. After that you have to fight to avoid them to shove you a 100 options. That's what they call the dealer experience...

@DarkMatterExia

2 жыл бұрын

Facts, exactly where I'm at right now! Trying to find one in NC that isn't 39k+

@thtsxyaznboi

2 жыл бұрын

That’s funny bro i’m from CO and am gonna have to travel to TX 😭😂

@patrickellison7095

2 жыл бұрын

$34,000 in New Orleans

@hectorlaureano5597

2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickellison7095 Dealership please!

@joelbalsley1033

2 жыл бұрын

Pearson Hyundai in Richmond, VA . They have a white DCT in bound

the Wrx if you can get at 33 is the best all around car for under 35k. Elantra is a little much for everyday I’d rather have the awd for all season weather and the trunk In the Elantra cannot be used because of the extra brace

@LeftenantMalachi

2 жыл бұрын

The rear brace can be easily removed. Some all season tires would be fine for the Elantra N as it has a limited slip front diff.

@dubber4life

2 жыл бұрын

It’s really not that much, I dd it and it’s perfectly comfortable for a sporty car. N mode transforms the car for back roads so the dual personality is there.

@luke2244

2 жыл бұрын

Brace doesn’t affect cargo space by much unless you’re folding down the seat. In which case you can remove the brace with a few bolts. Or you can pass through long skinny items like skis or wood

If this thing didn’t look the way it did, I would get one in a heart beat, love the way it sounds. The front end looks like a pug with the black nose. The body lines at the side is too much, the rear end looks too square in a way.

@WilleyMedia

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely check one out in real life if you get a chance!

@ll.7927

2 жыл бұрын

@@WilleyMedia shit is ugly in real life too lol. The volester looked great especially when lowered n rims added

@MeltingRubberZ28

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like the rear isn't that bad. I think if you get it in black the front doesn't make you gag anymore either. If I was in the market for a car right now I'd probably be looking at buying an EN.

It's not under 35k though, it's under 40k.

Best car under $35k ? You need to drive more cars.

@you lol no it's not

My vote would go for the gr86/brz for that title. Otherwise great car. Congrats to Hyundai for making big improvements in their sporty cars

@dwnshft

2 жыл бұрын

i can understand wanting to go RWD

This car is garbage 🤣🤣🤣

@jraheemjefcoat429

2 жыл бұрын

How so when Journalists are praising this car?

@antoinelee-thomas9536

2 жыл бұрын

@@jraheemjefcoat429 Right. I think he's just a troll.

@jraheemjefcoat429

2 жыл бұрын

@@antoinelee-thomas9536 Most likely he his. But Hyundai must be doing something right for the trolls to watch and commented on their cars.

@AnonAnon-qi4ts

2 жыл бұрын

@@antoinelee-thomas9536 I have seen a lot of comments on videos abouth this car saying "it's still a Hyundai" People used to say that about Honda for years and all of the sudden Honda is some legendary maker. A good car is a good car. Same people that shunned the SRT-4 or Cobalt SS and missed out on some great cars. This car reminds me of those two. Underdog, but never fully embraced.

@FDNY101202

2 жыл бұрын

L

The real challenge is finding an Elantra N for under 40k tho 🥲. Had to go with a Sonata N line cause the dealer told me the Elantra N’s were already sold @ almost 50k