2023 Honda Civic Type R takes on Nissan Z and Hyundai Elantra N, drag and roll race.
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2023 Honda Civic Type R takes on Nissan Z and Hyundai Elantra N, drag and roll race.
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The Z driver shifting was so smooth
@mak7034
5 күн бұрын
Aren't they paddle shifters? Edit: Never mind. Seen the shifting. I think the Nismo is the paddle shifter one.
That Hyundai is very impressive for the money.
@yorkaveeno378
2 ай бұрын
Only for drag.
It will be very awesome to see the two cousin's (Civic Type-R vs Integra Type-S) drag racing against each other!!
@123cornflakeman
10 ай бұрын
@@wza223-fo3mc They are both over priced tf.
@simonmorty8344
9 ай бұрын
You're in luck! Go over to throttle house incase you missed that race.
@caffeinefix2751
8 ай бұрын
recent hagerty video
@shotz_ina7893
Ай бұрын
@@123cornflakemanDepends on who’s buying it 😂
Z reduced to racing civics and elantras... Embarrassing.
@ghettolemon3993
10 күн бұрын
Still cheaper than a civic
@oldhunterraziel5327
Сағат бұрын
Sums up Nissan in general the past two decades. The GTR hasn't changed much and it's the only thing that was exciting in decades but it is stale if you ask me.
Nice video. I would love to see this Z come back with some more competitive tires.
Excellent video sam. Could u do a Hyundai veloster n vs Elantra N one of these days?
Awesome video ! I'm inlove with the Type R . Also excited but I have to wait until 2025 for mine to arrive. The Nissan is on a different level though God damn that RWD is powerful. Keep it up.
I see you Guyana 🙌🏾 Nice shifting!
Good race...Sam, you should try the 50mph roll race speed next to see the outcome. Interesting that the speed was the same from a dig and roll race. Looks like it was about a 5 car gap from the dig on the last one with the Elantra. Can't wait to see the Acura integra Type S race!
@tibi1441
10 ай бұрын
Agreed, 50 or 60 in third. Since you already did 30 in second, its pretty much the same doing 40 in second.
Nice. Finally, a solid video. I like this format.
The Type-R & Z drag races were super interesting
This went pretty much how I thought it would awesome runs.
If it weren't for the crazy 10-20K markups, I would definitely go for the Nissan Z.
@oct2274
10 ай бұрын
are you finding they aren't marking up the Honda Civic Type R ?
@j.m.9805
10 ай бұрын
@@oct2274 it's not even available 🤣
@oct2274
10 ай бұрын
@@j.m.9805 exactly and when they are, you aren't touching it for anywhere near msrp
@UDamnFine
7 ай бұрын
Z and CTR are still over $50k 😂
@ADA-ih6kz
7 ай бұрын
No kidding, everything over here is marked up 20-40k. Scat pack widebody for 107k.......bruh. z for 85k. Type s integra for 75k. Ridiculous
Love seeing the 0-60 and 1/4mile times too!
@salahuddinabujadayel6098
10 ай бұрын
And the n line with dual clutch instead of manual
Luv it!
🚙👍🏼👊🏼Awesome video! Such incredible cars!! Early this year I traded my 2019 FK8 Type R and got a 2023 FL5!! I have really enjoyed it and over all I like it better than my FK8!! The build quality of the FL5 is quite a bit better than the FK8 in my experience and opinion! Everything about it is a step above the FK8! I think it’s hard to explain the difference if a person hasn’t driven both for any good period of time! I was fortunate to get my FL5 at msrp because I have a great relationship with my local Honda dealership! Keep up the amazing content!! I am a new subscriber and look forward to more videos in the future 🚙👍🏼👊🏼🙏🏼🔥
Nice - I especially like the stats posted at the top when comparing the cars! These look like fun races. Thanks for the content!
@Tarequr
8 ай бұрын
Bro said all the wrong stats.
Love seeing the z make it's way in every so often! Not alot of coverage since launch day. Would like to see a run with good tires because it seems to be a running theme with all the Z runs you've hosted Sam. Tha KS for the amazing content!
@e46m54nissansr20937
11 ай бұрын
Not a lot of coverage of the Z at all kind of quiet on the Nissan side.
@cosmic_gate476
11 ай бұрын
@@e46m54nissansr20937 They quiet cause they won't product anything
@philhenderson3516
11 ай бұрын
@@e46m54nissansr20937 Because they know they could've done better with it and didn't. At least they actually came up with something, and the roots are definitely there. It'll most likely be short lived since everything will transition to electric in the next 5 years.
@fahmidnd2
11 ай бұрын
because it will always live in the shadows of the supra. The supra's just better.
@TopSecretVid
11 ай бұрын
Cos it’s pretty much crap for the overpriced asking amount!!
I wanna see a EVO X and STI against the R and N
@swaginih
11 ай бұрын
Evo and sti are far less slower than the N and the R from a roll. From a dig they gonna get chased down
@Eddiemane6
11 ай бұрын
I like your thinking lol
@jponz85
11 ай бұрын
Should be close from a dig. Roll? Lol... they'll lose easily
@swaginih
11 ай бұрын
@@jponz85 nah, the Evo and sti make like 240-250 to the wheel… the R it’s like 280 and the N is around there. The R and the N are lighter than both the Sti and the Evo. So top end it’s GG roll or dig
@e46m54nissansr20937
11 ай бұрын
Sounds like you just want to see FWD turbos dominate some old AWD legends. Have you no respect
I'm usually critical of your videos but I see an improvement in your driving and especially launching. Good job!
@11watupman
10 ай бұрын
I agree Sam has improved his shifting
@vfonte218
7 ай бұрын
I also agree....qnd I commented about it and it wasn't received well
I see Sam got a lot faster with the shifting🔥, great runs! Type R shifts and engine sound so crispy and smooth. The Z is on a whole other lvl though😂.
@g0d182
11 ай бұрын
fake engine noise from fl5
@b8067hc
11 ай бұрын
Z is on the Supra level, of course above TypeR.
@RevsALot
11 ай бұрын
@b8067hc from the races I seen the Z gets destroyed by the Supra, and that hurts to say as a VR owner lol.
@cjpp78ytube
11 ай бұрын
Manual Z vs Manual supra is close
@JonHop1
11 ай бұрын
@@b8067hc same price point tho.. Type R is $60,000...
The only reason the Z did not destroy the TypeR even more was the very bad launch of the Z driver. Terrible!!
Very cool. Nice to hear you rated the Type R a 10/10. Sounds really fun.
@ACommenterOnYouTube
10 ай бұрын
smh
Good job guys I love your videos and cars😊
Love my EN manual. Less power, but geared well, designed well, wonderful balance of acceleration and handling for such a great price. Money left over for some modest mods that will make it más macho 💪🏼👍🏼
@brokentradgedy
10 ай бұрын
but who's your daddy? hint its the type-r
@Mike-lt6sj
9 ай бұрын
Hyundai should start making cars that look good. I like they are putting power in these cars, but the looks just aren't there.
@riccitone
9 ай бұрын
@@Mike-lt6sj Have to say that I prefer the way Hondas look overall. Just the same, have you seen the Elantra N up close? It’s actually quite stunning in its own rite. But yeah, looking directly at the front of mine, pretty much resembles a catfish 😂
@Mike-lt6sj
9 ай бұрын
@@riccitone Yeah, there's a few of them in my area. I just can't get over that. I prefer the teggy type s over the type r as far as looks go, but the new type r looks a lot better than it used to.
@riccitone
9 ай бұрын
@@brokentradgedy Yes, would love one? But can’t justify that $$$$$ tag.
Would love to see more races with the Accord 2.0t as well. Great video🔥🔥
Thanks for keeping the Elantra N in the mix, so cool to see how it does against more expensive and more powerful cars. It really is in a unique niche in terms of performance.
@kychristell1779
11 ай бұрын
I still haven't seen one in the world though 😕
@TheBreakfastLover
11 ай бұрын
@@kychristell1779 me too, I've seen zero EN's on the street, but I've already seen two FL5 Type R's in the past month.
@addiegaskin6807
11 ай бұрын
@@kychristell1779 they're gorgeous in person
@porschegt2346
11 ай бұрын
@@TheBreakfastLoverI saw maybe 2 in my life time strangely… so weird how elusive they are.
@SIIKAP1
11 ай бұрын
@@TheBreakfastLoveri’ve seen around 7-10 ENs and zero FL5 Type Rs on the streets
Wish they would bring on the 2.0 Supra, 230i, CT4 V and CLA35
Current N car owner, former Q50 owner(same engine as the Z). If you want to drag race, the Z is obviously the way to go here. RWD>FWD. Tires and a tune and they'll probably beat the fastest FB0 tuned N car out there. My Q50 went 11.71 tune only, 11.39 with just downpipes and an e30 tune. N vs CTR, I can't comment about the manual Ns, but the DCT Ns post faster 1/4 mile ETs than the CTRs do. They tend to come off the line quicker, even having skinnier tires and all that. I'd still expect the DCT N to lose in a roll race to a CTR with a good driver most of the time. Slightly more power, slightly lighter. On a track, manual vs manual, it's been proven multiple times that the CTR is generally a bit faster. A savagegeese video was recently done comparing lap times of the CTR vs EN(and a few other cars) all done by the same driver on the same tires. The CTR won, but not by a lot. The EN, from what the video shows, was only boosting 15psi, so it may not have been octane learned. Octane learning is a real thing on these cars and might account for a legit 30-50hp or something. In my testing, just octane learning reduces almost a half a second from the 0-60 alone from the extra 3-5psi boost(depending on fuel grade). That being said... The CTR looks way better than the EN inside out and has a higher build quality. Resale value on the CTR will absolutely crush the ENs. People sell 5 year old CTRs for the same price they paid for them, so you could buy one and basically drive it for free over a few years of ownership(assuming you could get one at MSRP). A 5 year old EN will probably loose $7-12k or something. Hard to say exactly, we're not there yet. All in all, as an N car owner, I'd say the CTR is a better overall package, but is it worth the $10,000 MSRP over the EN? Eh, maybe if you have no issues affording that and don't care that the DCT EN for example might run the 1/4 a little better. Is it worth the $20k extra people are paying with markups and whatnot included? Eh, no, but at the end of the day with markup included and less depreciation it's probably going to cost you about 10k more than an EN. If 10k isn't a big deal to you, I'd probably go CTR. At the end of the day, you could buy an EN, spend $1000 on an ECU tune, it'll be faster than a CTR in almost any scenario, and you'll still save $9,000 out front. It may not look as good(personal opinion) and may not have the prestige, but it will likely provide more overall performance for less money. The actual amount of money you'd save over an extended ownership period has yet to be determined. I apologize for the slightly incoherent rant, it's still early and I haven't finished my 1st cup of coffee yet. I was out late enjoying the 50 degree air, ripping my fantastic tuned DCT N car around on the local country roads. #racetracktheworld #neverjustdrive
@driveri1435
10 ай бұрын
It's just straight line bro get a grip
@callXofXdutyXGuy
10 ай бұрын
@@driveri1435 you didnt read what he said did you
@driveri1435
10 ай бұрын
@@callXofXdutyXGuy 🙃
@upbeatmantis86
10 ай бұрын
Fl5 if not for the price, it wins in every department.
The Z has two turbos and a V6 so no surprise that it’s faster but it’s possible to make the type R way faster then stock so the potential is there for sure .
@nateap88
5 ай бұрын
Yes, you can modify cars to make them faster…
@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883
3 ай бұрын
Having two turbos doesn't mean it's faster. It can have a 3.0L and the turbos will be the size of a glazed donut.
Whoever was driving the Z wasn't doing it justice. Would be a very different race with a competent driver.
The guy in the Nissan Z misshift and the type R still couldn’t catch up so you know that Nissan is a beast
Sam is shifting like there is no tomorrow 🤣🤣💯💪
@germanengineering204
11 ай бұрын
Banging those gears like an animal 😂
@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883
3 ай бұрын
Same has watched a lot of Best Motoring lately lol.
I have 16k miles on my N and the steering wheel does not look worn at all. How is his so worn? Also, with mods and tunes, they are very similar. I beat previous gen type r’s all day on track and autocross. Mods matter, driver matters, they are very close though. (I pocket the 20k real world price difference) plus, I am always a fan of the underdog.
@Justaeuropeanman
11 ай бұрын
You might be right but once the new Type R’s also throw some mods on them there is no way the Elantra N will keep up with it on a track day
@lllll981
11 ай бұрын
@@Justaeuropeanman but it is kinda sad that you have to spend so much on the Type R, and then spend more on mods to beat a car that is significantly cheaper. Performance per dollar per mod the EN wins.
@Justaeuropeanman
11 ай бұрын
@@lllll981 I mean you kinda get what you pay for. You can get a Elantra N that is cheaper but no matter how much modifications you throw on it will never run as fast as laps as the Type R. Or You can pay more for the Type R and with modifications you can outrun pretty much supercars around the track.
@marcm7692
11 ай бұрын
Lies. Also, yours will blow up around 60-80k and will need a new engine.
@mharro88
11 ай бұрын
@@Justaeuropeanmansame can be said for a 400hp EN which I've seen
I am rwd junkie myself and have only owned rwd cars, mostly m3s, amg, nsx 2nd gen.and currently gr86 but this gen type r and elantra n would be the only fwd cars that could possibly break my tradition. In line to obtain a type r possible after mid cycle refresh at msrp dealer
Elantra N curb weight of 3,808lb? And your cc says 3,208lb. Which is correct? I'm going with 3208lb
Great races between the Elantra N and Type R but I would have liked to see a driver swap. Both very consistent but the fella driving the type-r was a bit better
@FEXAZb
4 ай бұрын
Yup I noticed
@TarekA-dy2if
3 ай бұрын
Not really tyoe r driver shifts too early doesn't give the turbo enough spool
@Shanker420
2 ай бұрын
N driver always short shifts
Dude shifting in the Z is quicckkkk
Great video! Thank you
@SamCarLegion
11 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
Is the Elantra's steering wheel delaminating already?
I hope it's the DCT N at least. Even though the N isn't winning either way because of power. Of course it's the manual 🙃 not a fair race at this point. After watching this video I can say the automatic N would have taken the type r or a really close one.
@Jcastro9444
11 ай бұрын
The DCT N is faster than a type R however you wanna slice it. These YT people don't know what they're doing.
@MidnightAspec
11 ай бұрын
@@layne4376 you beat me to it with that reply. 😂
@phs6026
11 ай бұрын
@@Jcastro9444even if N is dct, R is faster
@Jcastro9444
11 ай бұрын
It's ok to be salty that an dct EN is faster than the prestigious type R lol
@Eugen-E
11 ай бұрын
@@Jcastro9444 Show us the drag race where the N dct is faster than the TypeR please.
Good racing Sam, I always love to see EN going against other cars even if it loses 🙂 however I don’t know how much seat time Elantra N driver have, cause watching those races it seems like there’s no launch control or traction off cause EN is struggling bad from the dig and Sam was always ahead in rolls. But great video at least we know where manual EN stands more or less and btw DCT is definitely faster and actually make more power 😉
@Justaeuropeanman
11 ай бұрын
I saw another video where the DCT Elantra races the Type R it still lost but it was a lot closer to the Type R the Elantra only lost by like a foot thats a lot less than what the manual lost to it by that’s pretty impressive but trying to go against the Z stock there’s no way lol
@PolishBullitt
11 ай бұрын
@@Justaeuropeanman against Z hell no lol there are videos when EN wins and loses, but I’m yet to find out myself cause I have a guy who wants to race his Type R so I will definitely make a video about it regardless of the outcome haha 🙂
@psewgobind
11 ай бұрын
I got 24k of seat time in my 2023 EN. When I'm in kill mode, Sam's shifting style seemed limp in comparison. Don't know what's wrong with other driver... The hopping is bad, but u need to make it hop a tiny bit, or you're not giving it enough and then short-shift at about 300rpm (from redline) which will make it boogie in 2nd. Seriously, the inhouse shots of EN seemed very limp compared to what I'm used to.
@boostlife6370
11 ай бұрын
@@JustaeuropeanmanI gap a ctr and I'm dct.
@PolishBullitt
11 ай бұрын
@@psewgobind yeah there was something going on for sure
Now this an interesting race Sammy boy!
Sam can you please confirm if Type R was stock or modified some people think there was something done to it thank you 🙂
I'm waiting for Civic Type R FK8 vs Civic Type R FL5 ❤
@racing-proof34
11 ай бұрын
Carwow made this happen couple months back if u want to take a look at
@liudxdx
11 ай бұрын
a lot of youtubers have done it. and the FL5 is slightly a bit faster. still take the FK8 over this.
The Type R got that VTEC , that helped it win
What a race! If possible can we have the weight on KG too when that lovely spec info box pops up? BTW having those car spec pop ups over the vehicles is very helpful for instant comparison.
Which will be in the Repair shop first for RECALLS ? And engineering issues?
4cyl 2L turbo is more expensive than a 6cyl 3L turbo. Amazing pricing for Honda 😂
@kobedabest
11 ай бұрын
Exactly! 😅
@porschegt2346
11 ай бұрын
You basic as hell thinking all the money went into the engine.
@TheBreakfastLover
11 ай бұрын
It sells out with dealer mark-ups. Honda knows there is high demand for the Type R.
Sam found the roughest Elantra N he could find with that 300,000 mile steering wheel, black badges everywhere and driver who short shifts losing 20 metres each shift. (see his hand fall off the shifter in the video) A manual Elantra N traps 107mph stock so it shouldn't be miles behind, it should stay with TYPER on a roll. DCT is faster again as it doesn't dump boost through gear changes, has more boost and shifts quicker. Sam also likes to get the jump on the runs... He hits the gas and 2 seconds later says GO..
@Shanker420
2 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@DrNoahBoddy004
Ай бұрын
This was easily the most fake test I think I’ve seen in perhaps eleven years. Civil, and short, I know how to do. Hyundai, I have no doubt, spent several million developing that ‘N-Series’ and you slow-walked, and trashed it, horribly. I watched the whole menagerie six times, and thought, I must be losing my mind, and if that’s happened, It will take longer finding it with this channel as a compass. Outside of that, fantastic camera-work. Good luck
@larrycharles-dm2hs
26 күн бұрын
@@DrNoahBoddy004 Cry about it, bro. Hyundai tried to make good cars, and failed every time. It won't change anytime soon.
@DrNoahBoddy004
26 күн бұрын
@@larrycharles-dm2hs Not if they consult with Lotus, and Infinity in two areas… I just got off the phone with a friend just now. He seems to think (suspension tuning, and mid-band reserve engine power) I told him, from his lips to Hyundai’s ears. I agreed.
@DrNoahBoddy004
26 күн бұрын
@@larrycharles-dm2hs ….. and I still think they came-off way too cavalier, and matter of fact about the whole dxmn thing. It’s ok. They’ll be getting a letter from me in Seoul.
My elantra n 6spd stock ran a 13.6 at bradenton
Besides tires the. Gear ratios seem a little better in the R for the first two gears. Solid stuff though all great cars!
That’s how you know the Z needs tires right away
The N is such a bargain 34k for the 6 speed is just amazing value im sorry take it all day over the others !!!
@HuuTonyTran
7 ай бұрын
Then you're fking stupid mate only dumb poor cunts that don't know anything about jdm cars buys the shitbox Hyundai Korean trash 🙄
@JoshLopez-fm5hi
6 ай бұрын
Why would anyone buy a Hyundai over a CTR or 400z besides money
@NGSMODE
6 ай бұрын
@JoshLopez-fm5hi Because it's a brilliant driver's car regardless of cost or badge. I know a couple Porsche owners in an N owners page who could easily afford a CTR or Z. They chose the Elantra N as their trackable daily.
@pctkheem2851
6 ай бұрын
Who wouldn't take it? Only the typical boring same minded people that think hondas are god.
@c.g.4195
6 ай бұрын
@JoshLopez-fm5hi because you can make it faster than those 2 overpriced cars period
the Z is very fast and fun we have one at the dealer its a blast to rip around
The Z is in a diff category lol Overall great vid
The key thing to note, is that the real problem are the dealerships that mark these cars high. These franchising laws need to change. It was VERY difficult trying to find a Nissan dealership that didn't want to sell the Z at a ridiculous mark up.
@corrosivedevourer
10 ай бұрын
Bro I still haven't seen a Z on the streets yet and I live in a big city...
@Xchax3
10 ай бұрын
@@corrosivedevourer I believe it. I only saw one, it was a Proto. They were asking for $95k for the Proto spec and 70 something for a base. I decided to leave and go to Honda, I’ll probably throwup at whatever markup there will be on the Z NISMO.
8:29 I like how the steering wheel leather on the Elantra is already falling apart
@stevelamby7658
11 ай бұрын
Came here to say the same thing.. unacceptable unless he’s got 100k+ on the thing already….
@Mano_on_Point
10 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly!! I was lookin for this comment. Even if it had a decent amount of miles. The car is relatively new being a 2022. Should be falling about like that
@jpm408
10 ай бұрын
I was going to point that out as well. I said let me check the comments. Glad to see I am not the only one who noticed. Really says alot about the quality. The leather steering wheel on my 07 accord is in better shape
@Mano_on_Point
10 ай бұрын
@@jpm408 funny you say that I just got the 2023 accord sport hybrid as my daily driver and I have a mustang as the weekend warrior. I must say the Accords leather steering wheel is top notch.
@willp4763
3 ай бұрын
That's just dirt because the nasty ass who owns it doesn't clean it and it's sticking to the oil from his hands. Also the dude driving the Elantra needs to learn how to NLS in that EN.
Should of held the rpms a little longer in the type r not letting it build enough boost
U should do a ( n vs trd ) would love to see that race dct and mt
DCT ELANTRA N, WOULD HAVE BEEN A BIG DIFFERENT OUTCOME against the TYPE R🔥🔥🔥🌟👌🏾‼️
@jordynhixson655
11 ай бұрын
They don't want to upset the Honda fan boys with the DCT
@BDA0531
11 ай бұрын
Yeah the DCT would have its transmission blown up before it could finish lmao
@tommykelley3948
11 ай бұрын
( @@BDA0531 ) DEAD WRONG PAL🔥😁👌🏾‼️
@jordynhixson655
11 ай бұрын
@@BDA0531 Typical person that stereotypes Hyundai and doesn't do his research
@BDA0531
11 ай бұрын
@@jordynhixson655 I actually have. Its actually embarrassing how much posts ive seen on social media about blown up DCT transmissions for Hyundais. I had a 22 VN 6 M/T for a few months and it showed signs of unreliability already despite being a fun ass car lol
Why does that Elantra's steering wheel look 20 years old?
@gs98999
11 ай бұрын
That’s the Wah factor 😂
@Freddy_Confetti
10 ай бұрын
Bc kia’s are garbage
@kevin2jzzzz203
8 ай бұрын
Hyundai Quality
@fusrodahing1993
2 ай бұрын
No clue, but that's a driver thing. It's just a plain nice leather wrapped steering wheel. Mine has no wear at all at 11k miles, and I've had it for a bit over a year lmao. The wheel itself feels better than any other leather wheel I've held, in my experience
Excellent shifting man!
@SamCarLegion
11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
that wheel hub on that civic is crazy not going to lie lol
Type r runs at 22lbs of boost from the factory. It has more aero too slowing it down but race is exactly as I expected.
@keoki777
11 ай бұрын
That's a lot of boost. I wasn't aware it comes that high from the factory.
@thaydathroeun8678
10 ай бұрын
Will it be more reliable and take more abuse than EN?
@thaydathroeun8678
10 ай бұрын
Will it respond to mods tunes better? Is it the better engine?
@kaycertified
10 ай бұрын
@@thaydathroeun8678 knowing Honda and it’s massive accessible aftermarket support, I would beg to say Honda is the better engine.
@thaydathroeun8678
10 ай бұрын
@@kaycertified you read my mind 22 lbs of boost is nothing haha Roll race king, lap time king Laptop king lmao
Was octane learning done on the EN? Can tell by max boost going from 15 to 18ish
@Marbind
19 күн бұрын
Sorry pal, 3psi won't be enough to overcome that gap.
Sam drove the heck out the type R lol good job
아니 그러니까 지금 엘란트라랑 저런 차들이랑 드레그를 한다는 거 자체가 넌센스임...... 인지부조화가 온다...ㄷㄷ
Buddy in the Elantra N didn't even hit the NGS button, let's get some real Elantra N owners in these races. Turn on N Mode and use the NGS Button!
@4drturbo85
4 ай бұрын
Only the automatic version has the NGS button
N is faster than R if it's DCT version. Z beats both in a straight line.
@phs6026
11 ай бұрын
Even if N is dct, R is faster😂😂
@alleneubeltofficial
11 ай бұрын
@@phs6026no sir, dct EN is faster than fl5 CTR
@Eugen-E
11 ай бұрын
@@alleneubeltofficial where did you see that? In your dreams ?
@alleneubeltofficial
11 ай бұрын
@@Eugen-E no, theres plenty of youtube shorts of people racing😂 "eugene"
@deenycest10710
11 ай бұрын
@@phs6026 nope. Look up every type r 1/4 mile time.
How many miles does elantra have? what happened to that steering wheel?
5:36 what is the stuff on the steering wheel of the Elantra N, is it wear? Or just straight up gunk
@TuscaniGT
11 ай бұрын
They just had to use a 22 N that's already been run hard it's entire life without the DCT because have to make the type R look good.
Pulling for the Elantra N, but it's a tall task since it's way down on power. Z will most likely take it
@nighthawk0077
11 ай бұрын
Got smoked by the R. No need to race Z
@JT-fq2bl
11 ай бұрын
You need the Elantra N DCT to outrun the Type R.
@Youcallthesebagels_
11 ай бұрын
@@JT-fq2blEN dct with a jb4 would gap the Z lol
@270trevon
11 ай бұрын
@@Youcallthesebagels_now throw that jb4 on the z and see what happens 😂
@nighthawk0077
11 ай бұрын
@@270trevon Yes, also doubt jb4 N could touch stock Z
Looks like the type R is ahead before starting to race
15:42. I thought that the Honda did suffer from any wheel hop? That is as bad as my Elantra N. Not anymore, I replaced the lower engine mount, and now I have almost zero wheel hop.
Love the video. You should try the Sonata N line. Everyone skips over that car and go straight to the Elantra N, when the Sonata N line has more power but weighs just a little more then the Elantra N. Maybe race them against one another. 🤔
@4drturbo85
4 ай бұрын
Automatic Elantra will beat a Sonata N-Line. They skipped over the sonata because you cannot get the sonata with a manual transmission. All the vehicles in the video had a manual transmission.
@hardyboylifestyle
4 ай бұрын
If it’s because it’s a automatic, then ok but as far as the Elantra N beating a Sonata Nline. That’s not happening, even if the Elantra is automatic. Sorry brother. It’s been proven so many times. Stock VS Stock
@NGSMODE
4 ай бұрын
@hardyboylifestyle The contrary has been proven too lmao. People think that just because the Sonata has 20 lb/ft more torque on paper and a 2.5T it gets automatic wins. It still weighs over 200 lbs more and doesn't have the aero, suspension geometry, gearing, e-lsd, etc. Put both of them on a prepped track and run them multiple times. The lighter DCT EN might not triumph in 0-60 every time, but will trap a better 1/4 mi in a majority of runs stock for stock. And it also has the superior aftermarket despite being a 2.0T, so either way it's winning in some metric.
@hardyboylifestyle
4 ай бұрын
@@NGSMODE a company here in the US has new hybrid Turbo for the sonata Nline, new Clutches and the ECU by February.
@NGSMODE
4 ай бұрын
@hardyboylifestyle That's gonna be real nice. I'm hoping for a true Sonata N with awd as well in the future. Or atleast an aggressive e-lsd on a fwd platform, since it's proven to be effective. 2025 or 26' EN might come with a 2.5T, if they decide to implement it.
I want to see Evo X vs STI vs Type R vs Z would love to see how newer competitors are against legends.
@mcoeif
10 ай бұрын
Hate to say it but Evo X would get smoked
@AlejandroArchila1
10 ай бұрын
@@mcoeif win or lose I want to see it.
The Z and Q60 red sport have the same engine. It would be interesting to see the awd q60 or rwd q60 go up again the Z.
@supremecy187
11 ай бұрын
Q60 awd won from dig and Z from a roll
@SamCarLegion
11 ай бұрын
Already done
Kind of a bad example! Why not the DCT? The EN was designed for the DCT and not the manual. If Honda wanted it to be equal they should make a DCT. Remind your viewers the EN is the champion in WTCR and it’s class in 24 Nurburgring race.
*Sick Whips*
Love the manual runs
@SamCarLegion
11 ай бұрын
Same
Manual shifting is so fun!
@SamCarLegion
11 ай бұрын
It really is! I love racing 6mts
@ytsux9259
11 ай бұрын
I haven't had a manual car in over a decade. 😢
The results seem strange I might be missing something but many Elantra N’s on KZread are hitting 0-60 in 5 sec flat. If these numbers are accurate it would make a great difference in the dream results.
@taemeister9302
4 ай бұрын
EN DCT smokes the type-r
Nissan I feel is starting to get back into their street groove again. I love to see it
Looks like the Z ain't gettin' any love. I have an FL5 and truthfully, it's an amazing machine.
@JonHop1
11 ай бұрын
fl5 sucks... snooze fest.. Its also $60,000... .screw that..
@juanfernandez8987
11 ай бұрын
@@JonHop1 if they are overpriced, it's for a reason. Don't you think? Seems fairly simple to me.
@JonHop1
11 ай бұрын
@@juanfernandez8987 Yeah, it is simple, Dealers are very greedy and trying to control the market, because they have too much power. In todays terrible economy, people are very desperate, and companies are exploiting this. There are supply shortages everywhere, the economy is crap, so the rich people come out, and will pay any price they ask. Which is a HUGE destriment to the middle and lower class. It is typical greed and exploitation. Honda said, they sold 40% under their projections of the Fk8, all because dealers held them hostage at huge markups and refused to sell them for MSRP. What this does is artificially increase demand, for a supply that is already there, but is being purposely held back from the public so they can jack up the prices.
@juanfernandez8987
10 ай бұрын
@@JonHop1 Remember Dell back in the day when it started? They sold directly to customer, bypassing all middle detailers. This was a breakthrough business model back then. We need to do that with cars. Buy directly from Honda and ship it to our house.
Type R really looking good and Hot 👌🔥
@SamCarLegion
11 ай бұрын
We agree!
The wheel hop on the type r. It's gonna need motor mounts after this.
Sam random thought but it would be cool to have a top list (maybe just a graphic image) with each car you’ve hosted and its 0-60 and 1/4 mile on it. It could be a community post even
Bridgestones are what caused that Z to spin, put descent tires on it…ie Michelins ps4s and it would be a walk
@NickM205
11 ай бұрын
gotta warm up those tires like in F1 or something LOL someone needs to make a highlight video of all the ridiculous things he says
@S8ER
11 ай бұрын
Man you guys would have loved the GoodYear Eagle GSC / F1 days back in the 90s.. you could spin those garbage tires at idle. 😂😂
Elantra N steering wheel isn't holding up too well... hopefully mine won't wear out like that lol
Crazy thing is that people with the new z will most likely always gut them it's previous generations people can get them close to 2700 pounds just due to the fact it's so easy to gut them and with titanium Tomeis reduction even with 100 pounds is going to make a big difference
elantra n all day everyday can't beat the bang for buck
@Justaeuropeanman
11 ай бұрын
I mean i guess it’s a good car for Poor people that can’t afford real cars lol
@alleneubeltofficial
11 ай бұрын
@@Justaeuropeanman youre white😂 and broke major L
Love the FL5. Definitely looks the best of the bunch.
@JonHop1
11 ай бұрын
and is like 15k-20k more than both of them...
@DjDu3ce
10 ай бұрын
FK8 better
@i.s.3458
10 ай бұрын
@@DjDu3ce agreed but people ignore this lol
@DoomDeity
10 ай бұрын
@@i.s.3458 it’s just a civic hatchback with a big ass wing on the back tho 😭
@4drturbo85
4 ай бұрын
The rear looks horrible on the Type R. Front looks the best though.
He is far .. nice shifting Sam and that’s why I bought the DCT !
hate that nobody uses the dct en for testing. not only are like 60% of the sales being the dct, but its a night and day difference in performance, especially in a straight
Finally the Nissan Z a clear winner! Also someone please put the Michelin Sport tires on the Z, so it won't spin so bad from the dig.
@g_p_3431
11 ай бұрын
Not a clear winner against something in its class like the Supra LOL
@ZillaFullBoost
11 ай бұрын
I’ve put P4S’s on my Z and it made no difference. It needs “track” tires to really get any traction.
@devnullish
10 ай бұрын
The Z ran a 13.5. That’s a joke for the power it makes.
@ZillaFullBoost
10 ай бұрын
@@devnullish manual Z problems lol
I'd love to see how the dct N does against the CTR
@Youcallthesebagels_
11 ай бұрын
It’s destroys it in the straights
@drivescene6747
11 ай бұрын
Would still lose, but it’s a much closer race
@g0d182
11 ай бұрын
⚫⚫As seen on SamCarlegion earlier episode, Dct elantra barely beats a fk8 type r in dig, and is gapped by fk8 type r on a roll A.] DCT N barely wins in drag race at 4:38 in video below (Ignore run 1, because dct did not launch properly) kzread.info/dash/bejne/p4GYk7Ztl6aWgc4.html B.] DCT N gets gapped in roll at 5:00 and 6:44 in video below kzread.info/dash/bejne/p4GYk7Ztl6aWgc4.html
@msrr1303
11 ай бұрын
@@Youcallthesebagels_DCT N destroys Type R?
@popsandbangs8858
11 ай бұрын
@@drivescene6747 hahaha never EN can do low 13.4s in 1/4 miles
What happened to the steeringwheel of the elantra?
Carlegion Sam shock the world by the following. Get a stock 04-06 STI (not stock 07 because it had a bad hp restricting emissions tune from the factory) , a 2006 Mitsubishi evo IX (any trim ) that’s stock, a 07 - 09 mazdaspeed3 that’s stock and watch them destroy these cars from a dig and maybe even beat them from a 40mph roll. Those cars, especially the sti, were very quick from a roll. I think they’d take the type R and N
Elantra sounds the best out of the three. ❤
@2seep
11 ай бұрын
That’s what an unrestrictive exhaust with a valve does.
@germanengineering204
11 ай бұрын
In stock form!